_index wrote:

It seems like SwapBuffer lag spikes are back on cutting edge version for some previous builds and current one
Random stuttering every 3-5 seconds, every 7-15 seconds after osu! reload.
AMD 8150, gtx 970, win 8.1

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Trosk- wrote:

_index wrote:

It seems like SwapBuffer lag spikes are back on cutting edge version for some previous builds and current one
Random stuttering every 3-5 seconds, every 7-15 seconds after osu! reload.
AMD 8150, gtx 970, win 8.1

SPOILER

Do you get them while playing? I have some of these on Song Selection screen and not while playing (They are barely noticeable). Check it with the Auto mod so you can see the performance graph.

chong601 wrote:

Oh forgot to add that the fps value position changes when the chat console is up and the cursor enters and exits the chat interface.

power007 wrote:

Hello peppy, a lot of people saying "Please don't push experimental build to stable". I would say - don't stop doing what you're doing! OpenGL consumes about 10% more of computer power (CPU, GPU) but its much more stable, fluent and lagless then DirectX. For example Experimental build does't have input lag on Windows 8 but Stable build - has.

Trosk- wrote:

Well, if you are saying that Stable has input lag, maybe you are using OpenGL renderer, playing with VSync, or on Windowed mode. Anyways, I think he knows that the new renderer is better, that's why osu! is moving to it.

And well, I don't know if this is the correct place to make this comment, maybe you should have posted this in a comment on one of his blog entries, or even on the osu!dev Slack group instead.

DexFrild wrote:

Hello.
I have one problem with editor. I can't create a slider. osu! is crashing when I move cursor back.
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Trosk- wrote:

DexFrild wrote:

Hello.
I have one problem with editor. I can't create a slider. osu! is crashing when I move cursor back.
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Could you copy the crashlog and paste it here? (Click on the girl, on the "osu! crashed" window)

System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
   at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeException(ExceptionArgument argument, ExceptionResource resource)
   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.get_Item(Int32 index)
   at #=q6IXhrC$mQfqPYwMdZUbZ80v$QJk$3_hzWIcM9yG19dsHQEGOYQ8ei$3dKjAyWhrh.     ​ ​                     ()
   at #=qPJzNflyJ02VVE71K6$yal9RzSaC$JMDWIAHWianGGmpfNCbqwdBnfUKF86pa9Idv.#=qUwUBXun0rLqS$AtYWmL4Fw==()
   at #=qnG0GnN0cfijcUy7s$dJDeA==.#=qKgl$DSIqV9WdWTn$1xM1xg==()
   at #=qoQokdtSJzeBsSoydDXws1ficaov3lfUwWPe14F26hQA=.#=q9MMbY$7us5Q0U4_YmlFDRQ==()
   at #=qoQokdtSJzeBsSoydDXws1ficaov3lfUwWPe14F26hQA=.#=qYUbnloU3IqqDE0EKW8De7Q==(Object #=q0uK$pwOmC9AVBz$8WoN2hA==, EventArgs #=qJRFYCsgJYpEglwbVHgcMng==)
   at #=q0pqRh6sPtnAUog3K$vFn7WZ76Q57p3nFNWCTgRgm9GjHpjf6uVjPGnB9oAxEcX9D.#=ql8bzNZYeqTMI4oZPm9NAwQ==()
   at #=q4lPYQR1rNVcvus2Dx1J7n25iMeU8CIEVC45pbj8UkQ6yA6bij2BSg34cbnz3VWt4.#=qN69kwiwUVTK0y9SzB87sq86EUPIQsgP7vr0Fq1jca24=(Object #=q0uK$pwOmC9AVBz$8WoN2hA==, EventArgs #=qJRFYCsgJYpEglwbVHgcMng==)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponent.FDoIdle(Int32 grfidlef)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ComponentManager.System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.IMsoComponentManager.FPushMessageLoop(IntPtr dwComponentID, Int32 reason, Int32 pvLoopData)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoopInner(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.ThreadContext.RunMessageLoop(Int32 reason, ApplicationContext context)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form mainForm)
   at #=q4lPYQR1rNVcvus2Dx1J7n25iMeU8CIEVC45pbj8UkQ6yA6bij2BSg34cbnz3VWt4.#=qGwPIz9JtU4MFtDodhpsbEg==()
   at #=qoQokdtSJzeBsSoydDXws1ficaov3lfUwWPe14F26hQA=.#=qGwPIz9JtU4MFtDodhpsbEg==()
   at #=qqI_cDBXyzvlJ1x5uw8DP0A==.#=qcCIVZO00d1r2WZ01ZOHTCQ==(String #=qiZE2W7LTDP0JO4nV4pZvcw==, Boolean #=qQ2zGyEw_tm9$D757SBvxHr3DGWTw85CS_cjU2cMHqC0=, Boolean #=qWbRzV5WeaDhc6rEEcGRD89d3BcOgr7$VVXHcz_rRbmI=, Boolean #=qI2qDyM$NOXO_8MDDFyYBZw==)

tuddster wrote:

I have the same issue, here's my crashlog:

1. Fix editor slider placement failing. (peppy)

peppy wrote:

Include your full skin.

peppy wrote:

Include your full skin.

1. Make slider endpoint skinning support skins which have animated and non-animated overlay sprites (may not be supported forever). (peppy)

- DT - wrote:

Problem Details:
If you toggle fast enough HT/DT at the start of a replay (before the animation ends), it'll cause the icon to look disabled, but the mod will still be active gameplay-wise. If you toggle it again, it will just double the effect of the mod.

Trosk- wrote:

Can replicate.

And well, I think you should have posted this on the Cutting Edge thread, since this feature is not on Stable yet.

TheVileOne wrote:

I'm trying to replicate the issue with applause and everything seems to work as intended. I can't replicate the described behaviour.

Mayu Watanabe wrote:

I'm using the CE since a couple of weeks now and it work perfectly fine.
The non-existent input lag in fullscreen is amazing.

I have one minor issue though, an audio one. When I'm switching the audio advices, sometimes the current song I hear (menu, playing, spec, replay, whatever), becomes a nightcore one. I wonder if it's just an issue with my DAC (prolly ?). But that not a big deal, really.

Jerome wrote:

In the cutting edge build, ticking the "full screen" option doesn't appear to work as intended, I think. It feels more like borderless window - alt-tabbing from the game is incredibly quick, my FPS is the same as if I was using borderless window and I still experience the infamous lag of Windows 8.1. I'm not sure if this is an intentional change or something solely to do with my system but on stable, Fullscreen works as intended (no lag and it takes a few seconds to alt-tab out of the game).

I've tried some helpful suggestions - loading up the game holding shift to check the settings, clicking the option Confine cursor to window and other things, but I feel like I'm getting the windows 8 vsync lag and not playing in a proper full screen.

Jerome wrote:

GPU: GeForce GTX 980
CPU: Intel i7-4790K 4GHz
RAM: 16 GB
OS: Windows 8.1
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24-inch 144Hz

Yes it does when I toggle fullscreen off and on. Any programs I have running (like OBS) do seem to treat osu as if it is in fullscreen without problem, but I'm just surprised that a fullscreen application can tab-out so instantly (as if it was borderless window) whereas in Stable it is similar to a normal application (3-4 seconds of blackness before alt-tabbing). Just wondering if you know what's changed this or whether its something to do with my computer.

Also I swear there is still the vsync windows 8 lag but it could just be a silly placebo from me. Is there a way to check the exact latency of my cursor so I can do a comparison? Thanks Tom.