plz enjoy game
forum
what rank is considered 'good'
posted
Total Posts
90
Topic Starter
i got that reference ^^.thedamntrain wrote:
plz enjoy game
Keep in mind that 'good' doesn't mean the absolute best. You can't just say that only the athletes who play in the NBA are good at basketball, there are people under the NBA who play very well.
not being bad
so like rank 1
so like rank 1
Dat username doe.....cooksgochu wrote:
Keep in mind that 'good' doesn't mean the absolute best. You can't just say that only the athletes who play in the NBA are good at basketball, there are people under the NBA who play very well.
Of course good is subjective, lets give it a definition. Good can mean various things but lets break it down.
I read that top ~100k of players are the ones that are actually active.
Sum of 1 to N = n(n+1)/2
Sum of 1 to 100000 = 100000(100000+1)/2 = 5000050000
Mean of 1 to N = (1+N)/2 Where N > 1
Mean of 1 to 100000 = 100001/2 = 50000.5
STD of 1 to N = sqrt( (1/N) * Sigma(((1 to N) - Mean)^2) = (too much work going to approximate)
As you add 1 to a sum the standard deviation appears to go up by roughly .3
The STD from 1 to 30 is 8.803 so it is a little less than .3 (lets do .28)
STD of 8.803 and assuming the curve of ranks is normal (it isn't, its not even quantitative)
So extrapolate this trend 8.803 + (.28 * 99970) = ~28k ( o boy is this going to be funny)
So to be in the top 84% of players you have to be rank (Mean - 1 STD) which is = 22,000 or 22k
(Holy shit statistics actually gave us a close answer from by bullshit.)
To be in the top 5% you have to be in the -6k rank which means rrtyui, WWW, Sayonara, and Lewa, yes I said it, lewa are absolute shit.
When players such as WWW and Lewa calls themselves shit it means they have simply done the math and know no matter how hard they try, no matter how they beg the osu gods, -6k rank is not in their league. It is in the 4th dimension. Math does not lie in this case it did
Cookiezi, our lord, is the only one that comes close.
/Thread
I read that top ~100k of players are the ones that are actually active.
Sum of 1 to N = n(n+1)/2
Sum of 1 to 100000 = 100000(100000+1)/2 = 5000050000
Mean of 1 to N = (1+N)/2 Where N > 1
Mean of 1 to 100000 = 100001/2 = 50000.5
STD of 1 to N = sqrt( (1/N) * Sigma(((1 to N) - Mean)^2) = (too much work going to approximate)
As you add 1 to a sum the standard deviation appears to go up by roughly .3
The STD from 1 to 30 is 8.803 so it is a little less than .3 (lets do .28)
STD of 8.803 and assuming the curve of ranks is normal (it isn't, its not even quantitative)
So extrapolate this trend 8.803 + (.28 * 99970) = ~28k ( o boy is this going to be funny)
So to be in the top 84% of players you have to be rank (Mean - 1 STD) which is = 22,000 or 22k
(Holy shit statistics actually gave us a close answer from by bullshit.)
To be in the top 5% you have to be in the -6k rank which means rrtyui, WWW, Sayonara, and Lewa, yes I said it, lewa are absolute shit.
When players such as WWW and Lewa calls themselves shit it means they have simply done the math and know no matter how hard they try, no matter how they beg the osu gods, -6k rank is not in their league. It is in the 4th dimension. Math does not lie in this case it did
Cookiezi, our lord, is the only one that comes close.
/Thread
MATH
Welp, too bad, your calculations don't mean anything. To be in the top 5% of 100k people you have to - waitforit - be 5k or less.Clappy wrote:
STD of 8.803 and assuming the curve of ranks is normal (it isn't, its not even quantitative)
Which is what you know but still.
Narrill wrote:
MATH
source?Clappy wrote:
I read that top ~100k of players are the ones that are actually active.
no citation invalid argument
people on the internet are potatoes for all we know without proper citation
people on the internet are potatoes for all we know without proper citation
exactly
Oh wow, a bunch of hand waving and a few numbers. Let's call it math...
SomeLoli
Topic Starter
ur very scary every time i see uchainpullz wrote:
Oh wow, a bunch of hand waving and a few numbers. Let's call it math...
ZenithPhantasm
ZenithPhantasm
Looks like rank on the y-axis and pp on the x-axis, but it's hilariously inaccurate.
Prepare your a******s because I'm going to necropost -- and hard -- sadly just and only for a single personal opinion (dare to send a private message...)
I'd say if you have the capability of getting into top 10 in a map above 4.5 stars or top 50 in a map above 5.5 stars I'd say you could call yourself pretty good (slight underexaggeration but... at least in my opinion). More accurate statement would be if you manage to do something majority can't -- at least not in an easy manner
Considering there is the "dare to restart" mechanic that prevents pp to some extend and a bunch of other minor flaws in the calculating system I wouldn't trust comparing others based on pp (just think about comparing the top 10; pretty much the only difference between the pp from each of them is luck that they get while playing the map). Everyone makes these humane mistakes while they try a map that challenges them - from slight miscalculations into just lack/flaw in concentration. So don't think of pp as something that defines your skill; If you can do something that most others can't in osu! you should be on a good foundation thus could call yourself "good" (pretty dubious statement; I think that's the case though)
You are the master of your own position in ranks... (statement that probably limits my improving rate but makes it so that I won't slam my keyboard into the wall when there is a map I can't pass
)
I'd say if you have the capability of getting into top 10 in a map above 4.5 stars or top 50 in a map above 5.5 stars I'd say you could call yourself pretty good (slight underexaggeration but... at least in my opinion). More accurate statement would be if you manage to do something majority can't -- at least not in an easy manner
Considering there is the "dare to restart" mechanic that prevents pp to some extend and a bunch of other minor flaws in the calculating system I wouldn't trust comparing others based on pp (just think about comparing the top 10; pretty much the only difference between the pp from each of them is luck that they get while playing the map). Everyone makes these humane mistakes while they try a map that challenges them - from slight miscalculations into just lack/flaw in concentration. So don't think of pp as something that defines your skill; If you can do something that most others can't in osu! you should be on a good foundation thus could call yourself "good" (pretty dubious statement; I think that's the case though)
You are the master of your own position in ranks... (statement that probably limits my improving rate but makes it so that I won't slam my keyboard into the wall when there is a map I can't pass
)Weellll Im joining this thread because I want to know how and what makes a good player.
As a player who's been active in the past month (because I just started last month) with 27 hours of play.
I would say that a player is "good" If they could get atleast an A or SS on 4.5*-6* maps.
As a player who's been active in the past month (because I just started last month) with 27 hours of play.
I would say that a player is "good" If they could get atleast an A or SS on 4.5*-6* maps.
A good player knows his/her limits, knows what he/she should play, have a solid self-confidence but with no overarrogance in it, a player who claims he's good you know he's a bad player, a good player sets his expectations high and thats why when you ask him he will say he's not good enough and that's why he will try to be even better, and a good player works hard. Not a rank will make a good player in these important things. But fc-ing 4,5-5.5* is definitely just average, people even with 6000pp need to learn a lot too so it's really relative. And that'S why rank and map-wise is just stupid to ask these kind of questions.TheOtakuGamer17 wrote:
Weellll Im joining this thread because I want to know how and what makes a good player.
As a player who's been active in the past month (because I just started last month) with 27 hours of play.
I would say that a player is "good" If they could get atleast an A or SS on 4.5*-6* maps.
but what if I don't have a pp-Karuta- wrote:
when your rank is lower than your pp
don't worry it should be fine if you don't have themHikaru_Osu wrote:
but what if I don't have a pp-
you should be more worry about your necropost in 3years old post~~
even tho this was 6 years ago i have 3.1k pp with a 250 pp choke and a 210 pp play.daikichi wrote:
a while back when i was grinding to 2000 pp, I remember someone saying that 2000pp wasn't hard to achieve and it was 'casual' ( i myself thought that 2000pp would be quite a feat). that made me question what isn't 'casual' and what is considered good.
what rank/pp do you think is considered 'good',̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶u̶a̶l̶?
i'd say 3000pp
i'm 136k btw
Cool but try not to necroMyAimShryneXD wrote:
even tho this was 6 years ago i have 3.1k pp with a 250 pp choke and a 210 pp play.daikichi wrote:
a while back when i was grinding to 2000 pp, I remember someone saying that 2000pp wasn't hard to achieve and it was 'casual' ( i myself thought that 2000pp would be quite a feat). that made me question what isn't 'casual' and what is considered good.
what rank/pp do you think is considered 'good',̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶u̶a̶l̶?
i'd say 3000pp
i'm 136k btw
also there weren’t many hyper farm pp maps back theni dont kno
In my opinion, it depends on your skill. There isn't exactly a "good rank" as it all comes down to perspective. For example, getting to 6 digit from 7 digit in just half a month is good to me, as it just means you're improving a lot (or just farming, but farming still takes skill).