guineaQ wrote:

이거 겟난해도 됨? ㅇㅅㅇ

guineaQ wrote:

Worku in Progressu

Arphimigon wrote:

IRC mod for Shirushi diff

22:16 Ninja Bunny: tell meee
22:16 Arphimigon: 00:06:837 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - that was like... i dont get why i couldnt hit it
22:17 Arphimigon: I guess i just feel like the flow from 00:05:810 (3,4) - isnt very... intuiative
22:17 Ninja Bunny: mmm okay
22:18 Arphimigon: also it is kinda sudden to have a lot of notes in the calm section so i would try swap one or two for sliders but your choicechanged
22:18 Ninja Bunny: I'll ask for more opinions
22:18 Ninja Bunny: yeah that's a good idea
22:18 Arphimigon: 00:36:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - long combo o/
22:19 Arphimigon: 00:45:673 (5,6,7,8) - This is one of the things about stacking i was gonna mention
22:19 Ninja Bunny: NC'd 00:39:509 (1) -changed
22:19 Ninja Bunny: what is it?
22:20 Arphimigon: 00:45:673 (5,6) - imo because of the curve of the last slider, manually stack 5 a little bit higherchanged
22:20 Arphimigon: otherwise it feels weird doing the jump
22:20 Arphimigon: stack 6*
22:20 Arphimigon: and yeah that last curve is a line but still makes sense
22:21 Ninja Bunny: hmm I'll ask for more opinions for that
22:22 Ninja Bunny: if 5, 6 gets higher, there will be spacing issue
22:22 Arphimigon: i meant move 6 higher
22:22 Arphimigon: accident on my part
22:22 Ninja Bunny: i want the stacking to be consistent with 00:46:084 (7,8) -
22:23 Ninja Bunny: if I get more mods, then I'll change that part for sure
22:23 Arphimigon: yeah just make them the same then o/
22:23 Ninja Bunny: yeah
22:23 Arphimigon: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3141194 well this is what i wouldve done just for reference
22:24 Ninja Bunny: ohhhh i get it
22:24 Ninja Bunny: i think that's more of a mapping preferenc
22:24 Ninja Bunny: I like your idea too tho
22:24 Arphimigon: its the playabilty
22:24 Arphimigon: having 6 closer to the last slider makes the jump feel weirder
22:25 Arphimigon: shouldnt matter -too- much though
22:25 Ninja Bunny: okay
22:25 Arphimigon: 00:56:974 (1,2) - this hahachanged
22:26 Arphimigon: also for the sake of readability i would unstack 2 directly and place it just a -little- higher
22:26 Ninja Bunny: done!
22:26 Arphimigon: 00:58:002 (1,2,3,4,1) - love this
22:26 Ninja Bunny: me too :3
22:27 Arphimigon: also yeah viewing stacking in the editor when done with the map might help a lot
22:27 Arphimigon: 01:01:289 (8,9,10,1) - see how this plays?
22:27 Ninja Bunny: how does it play?
22:28 Arphimigon: put stacking on and just imagine it
22:28 Ninja Bunny: so it will be less easy to read?
22:29 Arphimigon: well stacking makes it look like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3141207
22:29 Arphimigon: thats how it is in play, and the curve from the last slider isnt exactly friendly into that triplet because its coming back somewhat
22:29 Ninja Bunny: ahh okay
22:30 Ninja Bunny: I'll look into that
22:30 Arphimigon: i know why you did 01:11:152 (1,2,3,4,5) - but honestly music suits jumps more o/ (change at your will)
22:31 Arphimigon: also that combo goes up to 15 i dont know if you wanna change that either
22:31 Ninja Bunny: yeah okay
22:31 Arphimigon: 01:17:728 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - love the triangle
22:31 Arphimigon: 01:18:755 (2,3,4) - but after all that this bit is almost impossible to hit
22:31 Ninja Bunny: hehe yeah me too
22:32 Arphimigon: honestly plays better if you stack 01:18:960 (3) - on 01:17:933 (4) - changed, but moved (3) to (4)'s slider tail
22:32 Ninja Bunny: yeah i was thinking that too
22:32 Ninja Bunny: that part played bad when testplaying
22:32 Arphimigon: opposite here but your chocie
22:33 Arphimigon: 01:21:426 (11,12,1) - love it
22:34 Ninja Bunny: thanks~
22:34 Arphimigon: minor thing 00:21:016 (1,3) - sliders arent stacking correctly, more 3 more right
22:34 Ninja Bunny: ahh you're right
22:34 Ninja Bunny: moved 3 to x:57
22:35 Arphimigon: naisu
22:35 Arphimigon: 00:37:043 (4,5,6) - love it too
22:35 Ninja Bunny: hehe ty
22:35 Arphimigon: 00:47:317 (1,2,3) - would make the curve of slider 3 fit this better if you know what i mean
22:36 Arphimigon: felt a little weird having to move down to hit it
22:36 Ninja Bunny: no, what do you mean? I don't get it
22:36 Arphimigon: try rotating it 20 degrees changed, but rotated 30 degrees. Also found the spacing to be inconsistent, so fixed to 1.7x
22:36 Arphimigon: it plays nicer
22:37 Arphimigon: if you do that though lift it up a little
22:37 Arphimigon: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3141230 reference
22:38 Ninja Bunny: okay
22:38 Ninja Bunny: hey I gotta go somewhere now
22:38 Arphimigon: all good
22:38 Ninja Bunny: I'm sorry this is so sudden
22:38 Ninja Bunny: haha but thanks a lottt for your help
22:38 Arphimigon: no problem

Would slap on stacking and check anything i didn't notice
(View -> Stacking)

Good luck! Liked the diff~

guineaQ's Insane

Easy

Normal

Hard

Shirushi

_ Hatsune Miku wrote:

M4m (o wo)/

guineaQ's Insane

is wip now ? Yes haha
....

Easy

00:12:799 (1,1) - 스피너를 2개말고 하나로 해보시는 게..? 이대로가 좋은듯
00:22:662 (3) - 슬라이더를 맵핑 범위안으로 옴겨보시길 일단 보류. 랭킹룰 잘 모르긴하는데 어디선가 플레이 범위내에 있으면 괜찮다고 들은것 같아요. 잘아는분한테 물어볼게요.
00:45:676 (2) - ^ ^
01:05:401 (1) - ^ ^
01:11:565 (4,1,2) - 노드랑 슬라이더를 안족으로.. ^
01:21:017 (3) - 살짝 내려보세요 피통 터치하는건 언랭요소니까 내림.

Normal

노말은.. 대체로 괸찬은것 같습니다 앗싸

Hard

00:29:648 (6) - NC? 네
00:30:881 (1) - 뉴콤보 끄고 00:31:292 (2) - NC okay

Then open Aimod and http://puu.sh/hWjeX/e4f935ddbe.png Fixed sorry :/ 하드부터 점프 넣어도 됩니다

Shirushi

HP 7 -> 8 up ??(feel little Easy :/) this is supposed to be easy, hehe :3
00:55:128 (1) - this spiner end is 00:56:977 here sorry, no fix. heard at full volume, 25% rate, and the vocal ends at the current position.

Then i think is good GLGL !

Shirushi

You should be more consistent with your NCs, sometimes they are far apart and other times they are close together and I don't see a reason why
00:01:292 (1) - You could move this to about x:264 y:172 to improve the flow a bit
00:18:347 (2,3,4) - The blankets with 2 could be improved a bit
00:49:580 (2,3,4) - The distance between 2 and 3 is too large compared to the one between 3 and 4. just move them closer together and it should be better
00:59:647 (3) - Move it up a bit for better flow
01:01:908 (9,10) - It looks a bit bad with manual stacking, just let them stack normally
01:03:552 (5) - Make it more like this (for better flow):

01:06:634 (5) - It's a bit too high over the grid, move it down a bit
01:07:867 (1,2,3) - Again, spacing between these is a bit confusing
01:18:962 (3,4) - The stack isn't perfect
01:20:812 (8) - A bit too high over the grid again, consider moving it down a bit

Hard

01:25:127 (1) - Add a whistle to the spinner like in the other diff

Normal

01:25:127 (1) - Whistle
01:02:113 (1) - The blanket isn't quiiiiite perfect it's just a bit off
Can't find anything else

Easy

01:11:976 (1,2) - These two sliders are too low, move them up or replace them with something else

Make sure you use DS throughout the whole diff, I've noticed there's some notes not properly snapped. I don't think I can find all of them but I'll try
00:04:536 (1)
00:18:963 (2)
00:42:388 (2)
00:50:607 (1)
01:04:579 (2)
Thats all I could find
Make sure the notes after are distance snapped as well after moving these
01:25:127 (1) - Whistle

TheKoala wrote:

Hey M4m from your queue c:

Shirushi

You should be more consistent with your NCs, sometimes they are far apart and other times they are close together and I don't see a reason why
00:01:292 (1) - You could move this to about x:264 y:172 to improve the flow a bit moved from 262, 159 :>
00:18:347 (2,3,4) - The blankets with 2 could be improved a bit I think it's fine :> (or my eyes might be bad)
00:49:580 (2,3,4) - The distance between 2 and 3 is too large compared to the one between 3 and 4. just move them closer together and it should be better mmm I'll ask someone about this. Cuz I'm NOOB!
00:59:647 (3) - Move it up a bit for better flow moved from 217, 88 -->
01:01:908 (9,10) - It looks a bit bad with manual stacking, just let them stack normally kayy
01:03:552 (5) - Make it more like this (for better flow): I think it's fine

01:06:634 (5) - It's a bit too high over the grid, move it down a bit okay
01:07:867 (1,2,3) - Again, spacing between these is a bit confusing I'll ask
01:18:962 (3,4) - The stack isn't perfect fixed!
01:20:812 (8) - A bit too high over the grid again, consider moving it down a bit doesn't touch the HP bar, so it's fine )

Hard

01:25:127 (1) - Add a whistle to the spinner like in the other diff fixed!

Normal

01:25:127 (1) - Whistle fixed!
01:02:113 (1) - The blanket isn't quiiiiite perfect it's just a bit off fixed!
Can't find anything else

Easy

01:11:976 (1,2) - These two sliders are too low, move them up or replace them with something else these are within the playfield,which should be fine

Make sure you use DS throughout the whole diff, I've noticed there's some notes not properly snapped. I don't think I can find all of them but I'll try What do you mean by snapped? if you mean having the DS on, I always had it. Maybe it's because I sometimes turned off grid snap. No change for now, since I'll also ask around about this
00:04:536 (1)
00:18:963 (2)
00:42:388 (2)
00:50:607 (1)
01:04:579 (2)
Thats all I could find
Make sure the notes after are distance snapped as well after moving these
01:25:127 (1) - Whistle fixed!

That's about it!

Good luck with the map c:

There are unsnapped sliders/spinners in the following diff according to AIBat
Easy

1. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Hard

1. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Normal

1. 00:55:128 (2) - Unsnapped slider (end).
2. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Shirushi

1. 01:26:411 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (start).
2. 01:26:411 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

But right now I would like you to fix bpm first
let me know when you're ready, I'll do further modding

Easy

1. 00:12:799 (1,1) These 2 spinners are too close to each other. You'll see that new spinner appears before old spinner finished. Move 00:14:546 (1) to 00:14:584 extend tail to 00:16:909
2. 00:58:826 (1,2) swap their position and curve them like this. It makes a better flow from left to right
   
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3. 01:11:976 (1,2) These notes are out of play grid. Move them up

Normal

1. 00:12:799 (1,1) same reason as easy
2. 01:05:401 (1) The arrow doesn't end at right vocal timing. So, I suggest use slider end it at white tick (01:06:223 drum hit). Then at a note at red tick (01:06:634)
3. 00:27:594 (1) rhythm doesn't match. Use note instead of slider
4. 00:52:251 (2) blanket with (1)
5. 01:16:908 (3) You don't have to cornered it. Change red dot to white dot

Hard

1. 00:48:141 (3,4) Is this jump intentional. It's quite big imo (2.03x)
2. 01:02:113 (1,2) Try something like this
   
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3. 01:16:291 (4,5,6) use reflected slider
4. 01:17:319 (8,3,4) other large jumps
5. 01:21:042 (6) rhythm doesn't exists here

makemek wrote:

Just a remark no kudos necessary

I think bpm is quite a mess. Try using bpm 146.00 with offset 1310 throughout the entire song
If you look at the piano sheet, you'll find that most beats are half notes. That's why I bump them to 146 instead of 73

There are unsnapped sliders/spinners in the following diff according to AIBat
Easy

1. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Hard

1. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Normal

1. 00:55:128 (2) - Unsnapped slider (end).
2. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Shirushi

1. 01:26:411 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (start).
2. 01:26:411 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

I'll do M4M
But right now I would like you to fix bpm first
let me know when you're ready, I'll do further modding

Ninja Bunny wrote:

I'm so sorry T T although you have taken the time to look at this,
I am not going to change the timing until someone really experienced has taken a look. It will take place for sure when the BNs or QATs look at it. Still, I tried my best to have the timing measured.

Although Umi's map has a single timing line, it is not quite right. In fact, the more recently ranked map of an extended version of this song has multiple timing lines. This is because the pianist is not consistent on the beat. (I'm not saying your timing sucks, FYI. I am aware that there are many more people out there that are Waay better than me at timing).


My BPM follows the drum, which is at 73. On the other hand, the spinner is right on where the voice ends, on a 1/16 beat. I tried on full volume and on 25% playrate.

Thank you very much for looking at this tough! I'd love to do m4m with you

zj0924 wrote:

Hi!From my queue

[General]

1. I don't understand why there are so many timing point,umi's version is single timing pointed...just because it is ranked, doesn't mean that the timing is right--the piano is not on right beat ;w;
2. hitsounds need to be improved kayy

[Easy]

1. 00:19:374 (3) - remove drum on arrow use soft hitnormal removed drum hitsound in general, thanks!
2. 00:22:662 (3) - ^
3. 00:25:950 (3) -
4. 00:34:169 (1) -
   plz remove others by yourself I do think that hitsound needs to be improved, but I do not like the sound of the whistles on the places you suggested. Sorry!
5. 00:40:744 (1) - whistle?
6. 00:42:388 (2) - arrow whistle?
7. 00:45:265 (1) - whsitle for piano key guitar sound is louder, so no
8. 00:51:840 (1) - finishapplied soft whistle instead!
9. 00:52:662 (2,3) - sounds weird I mean this may feel confusing for beginners.snare sound is more important than kick sound here so this will be a better choice ehh okay this part was pointed out several times, so I'll fix it
   
10. 00:55:539 (1) - soft finish? no, i think the current hitnormal fits better
11. 01:05:401 (1,2) - To be honest,I think these two don't fit the rhythm despite following vocal
12. 01:08:689 (1) - finish? no
13. 01:21:839 (1,2) - unsnapped vocal changed!
    

[Normal]

• 
  ds should be consistent 1.1(±0.3）done!

1. 00:03:552 (1) - ds？^
2. 00:04:146 (3) - ^ ^
3. 00:06:859 (1) - ^^
4. 00:17:731 (1,2,3) - ^^
   plz adjust them by yourself yeah actually i did, haha
5. 00:25:128 (2) - arrow whistle
6. 00:23:484 (6,7) - whistle
7. 00:26:566 (4) - remove drum
8. 00:31:703 (2) - whistle
9. 00:36:224 (3) - whistle
10. 00:34:169 (1) - remove arrow drum use whitsle
11. 00:37:457 (1) - ^
12. 00:39:100 (2) - whistle
13. 00:39:922 (3) -
14. 00:40:744 (1) -
15. 00:43:621 (4) - drum
16. 00:46:087 (4) - why follow vocal here suddenly?you follow instrument 00:40:744 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - so this will be sudden to play.extend to next white tick Tried something else: http://puu.sh/i4nXm.jpg
17. 00:49:991 (4) - drum clap
18. 00:50:196 (5) - drum finish
19. 00:51:840 (1) - finish
20. 00:52:251 (2,3) - drum
21. 01:08:689 (1) - unsnapped rhythm,obviously 1/6 is better,（strictly speaking 1/6 is unsnapped too）consider change the rhythm?I'll think about this.

[Hard]

1. 00:52:457 (4) - what hell is this?Use 1/4 slider is just okay sorry about that;; but I think this rhythm fits
2. 01:08:689 (1) - why a 1/8?use 1/4,the violin sound is unsnapped ^
3. 01:20:915 (6) - unsnapped ^

GL~

hawkowl124 wrote:

M4M from your queue
By the way, my mods may be biased towards the fact that I'm a mod player

General

Add "sao" to the tags done!

Easy

00:52:662 (2) Feels awkward when playing with HD,DT,HR. Plus, the piano sound that it's mapped to is much quieter than the other stuff. I'd remove it and space out the notes after it more to compensate the change. changed!

Normal

I see nothing wrong with this diff Because I'm not looking hard enough kappa
Very good difficulty hehe, still need to improve! I tried

Hard

01:16:291 (4) - 01:16:908 (7) Feels awkward when playing with HD,DT. It feels "compressed" and doesn't flow as well as it could. Maybe try something like this? Did something different--I just rearranged the parts where you said they feel compressed

01:21:017 (7) - 01:21:634 (10) Same as above, feels compressed and should be spaced out more.^

Shirushi

00:58:518 (2,3,4) Straighten out this stream so that it flows better This is straight, although it doesn't look like it

Hope this helped

makemek wrote:

Just a remark no kudos necessary now it's necessary!

I think bpm is quite a mess. Try using bpm 146.00 with offset 1310 throughout the entire song
If you look at the piano sheet, you'll find that most beats are half notes. That's why I bump them to 146 instead of 73 changed mp3, so that should solve all the problem with timing

There are unsnapped sliders/spinners in the following diff according to AIBat
Easy mp3 changed, so the spinners are now all snapped

1. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Hard ^

1. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Normal ^

1. 00:55:128 (2) - Unsnapped slider (end). fixed!
2. 01:25:127 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

Shirushi

1. 01:26:411 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (start). fixed
2. 01:26:411 (1) - Unsnapped spinner (end).

I'll do M4M
But right now I would like you to fix bpm first
let me know when you're ready, I'll do further modding chnage my mind, I'll do it then

Easy

1. 00:12:799 (1,1) These 2 spinners are too close to each other. You'll see that new spinner appears before old spinner finished. Move 00:14:546 (1) to 00:14:584 extend tail to 00:16:909 no change for now, I'll ask
2. 00:58:826 (1,2) swap their position and curve them like this. It makes a better flow from left to right with DS applied, this doesn't look good--the sliders overlap. Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll use this in my future maps
   
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3. 01:11:976 (1,2) These notes are out of play grid. Move them upchecked in auto-play at 800x600, and this was within the screen. So it is good to go

Normal

1. 00:12:799 (1,1) same reason as easy
2. 01:05:401 (1) The arrow doesn't end at right vocal timing. So, I suggest use slider end it at white tick (01:06:223 drum hit). Then at a note at red tick (01:06:634) sure thing
3. 00:27:594 (1) rhythm doesn't match. Use note instead of slider yeah, i thought this too and had already changed it before looking at your mod, haha
4. 00:52:251 (2) blanket with (1) i think it's fine, I placed this more for flow
5. 01:16:908 (3) You don't have to cornered it. Change red dot to white dotI was too lazy to blanket/wanted a variety, so i made this a red dot /runs

Hard

1. 00:48:141 (3,4) Is this jump intentional. It's quite big imo (2.03x) it is! I love BIG jumps
2. 01:02:113 (1,2) Try something like this tried something like that http://puu.sh/i874S.jpg
   
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3. 01:16:291 (4,5,6) use reflected slider it disrupts the flow to 01:18:230 (7) - if I do, and I think the current position is fine
4. 01:17:319 (8,3,4) other large jumps had been changed when remapping, so there was no issue with jumps here
5. 01:21:042 (6) rhythm doesn't exists here it does, but since it's not clear enough, removed. Same with 01:21:312 -

Broccoly wrote:

http://puu.sh/i7MR0/ed3a1bd690.osr

생각해보니 님 맵은 한번도 본 적이 없어서 한 번 몰래 봐봄...ㅋㅋ헉, 감사합니다 ㅋㅋ

의견몇자
00:28:915 (1,2,3,4) - 4번을 지우고 3번을 1/2로 늘려주면 00:30:148 (5,6) - 이 피아노 소리가 돋보이게 되어서 더 느낌있어 질 것 같아요. 기타소리가 있어서 지금처럼 1/4써도 안 될건 없지만 뭔가 포커스가 흐려지는 느낌이랄까 (물론 갠적인 느낌)... 저라면 피아노에 포커스를 맞춰 줄 것 같네요.그렇네요

00:32:202 (3) - 여기 피아노에 아주 강하게 포인트가 들어갔으니 그에 맞게 점프를 넣어주면 치는 맛이 더 찰져질 것 같아요. changed like this http://puu.sh/i87Pq.jpg
00:33:024 (5,6,7,8) - 여기만 따로 뉴콤섹션 넣어줘도 괜찮을 듯? NC'd 00:33:024 (1) -
00:50:080 (6,7,8,9) - 아래처럼 패턴을 고루 펼쳐주면 더 흐름이 부드러워질 것 같네요. 물론 예시입니다. 지금이 좋은것같아서 keep할래요

00:51:723 (2,3) - (nazi) 두 개 겹쳐보시면 한 개가 약간 삐져나오는ㅎㅎfixed!

00:54:188 (4,1) - 4에서 1번으로 갈 때 커서를 바로 꺾어야 해서 불편한 감이 있을 수 있을것 같네요. 요로케 바꿔봄 http://puu.sh/i87X1.jpg

suggestion

01:08:367 (1,2,3) - 1번에서 2번으로 점프했다가 갑자기 3번으로 갈 때 디스턴스가 확 줄어서 불편할 수 있을 것 같아요. fixed!

maybe like this?

01:24:394 (1,2,3) - 여기는 음악이랑 노트랑 시간차가 꽤 많이나네요... 따로 Uninherited 섹션 만드는 것도 고려해 보면 좋을 듯..고려해볼게요

굿럭

1. soft-hitclap2.wav has a delay of almost 10 ms. I highly recommend removing that.

1. I'll be nitpicky about some things but it will improve overall quality

1. Uhm I suppose you noticed already but the offset is all screwed up
2. WIP

• 00:01:792 (1) - I think you should make it a little more curved (same for all slider like it) imo.
  00:21:518 (1,2) - You can make a better blanked maybe?
  00:23:983 (7) - someting like this : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3210936 is better imo. You break to mush the flow with a triangle :/
  00:27:065 (4,5) - I think it's better stacked.
  00:29:120 (2) - "Prev 1.5* next 1.5*" maybe?
  00:30:353 (5,2) - ^
  00:36:312 (4) - Why a jump? There is no note here, a simple 1* is enough.
  00:41:860 (2,4,8) - I think it's intentional but :/ I would prefer it stacked.
  00:46:175 (5,6,7,8) - It's very difficult with DT to do it the first time. A big jump should be better.
  00:49:463 (5) - curve it more.
  00:50:491 (8) - 457:130
  00:51:107 (1,2,3) - It's ugly :/ make 2 vertical at the center and 3 symetric to 1.
  00:59:018 (2,3,4) - There is no reason for a stream here, take it off
  01:03:230 (2,3) - blanket?
  01:10:010 (3,4,5,6,7) - again, why a stream? It's overmaped! Useless for players of 3* maps and for DT players :/
  01:16:997 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^

Euny wrote:

as your request!♥ came from my queue

• General

1. reset timing point same as with GuineaQ's Insane. 기닠님한테 물어봐서 타이밍포인트 통일화시키세요~네!
   
2. you should fix new combo for same spot. 모든난이도가 조금씩 뉴콤이 다르니 제너럴에 쓸게요 fixed!

• Easy

1. 00:13:299 (1,1) - 노멀은 위험한정도지만 이건 확실히언랭이슈가 될거에요. 스핀하나로 통일시키세요. 네!
2. 00:15:147 (1,1) - 얘네 둘도 그렇습니다 우선 제 어줍짢은 설명보다도 ...you should read this forum >> https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3359424
3. 00:56:039 (1,1) - 위와 같은이유겠죠? 어쩜이건 괜찮을수도있겠네요. 이 두개는 bn에게 물어보거나 qat에게 상담하는게 좋을거같아요
   

   Sakura wrote:

   Actually it's more like
   Easy - 4 beats
   Normal - 2 beats
   Hard - 1 Beat
   Insane+ - Anything goes.

   읽어봤는데 스피너다음에 어느비트에 노트 놓을지 정한다고 되있는데, 1/4박자 기준인것같네요--이건 1/8박자스케일이기때문에 easy: 2 beats; normal 1 beat; hard 0.5 beat; insane anything..인것 같습니다. 현재 가이드라인에 스피너 도중에 Apporach circle있으면 언랭요소라고 되있기도하네요. 둘다 충족되므로 다 괜찮은듯!
4. 01:25:422 (1) - 이 스핀 01:25:627 (1)여기서 시작되게 하세요 노멀과 다르게 이지는 보컬아닌 음으로 끝내셨으니 저기가 맞다고 생각해요.네! 이모딩 보기전에 딱 이렇게 고쳐놨었습니다!

• Normal

1. 00:13:298 (1,1) - 노멀에는 위험합니다. 스핀하나로 통일하셔요.yes!
2. 01:22:956 (2,3) - 흐름을 조금 수월하게 만들어보세요 이런느낌으로!?진짜 전에는 인위적인느낌이였네요. 고쳤습니다! 마찬가지로 01:24:394 (4,5) - 도요
   
   SPOILER

   

• Hard

1. 00:31:381 (6,1) - 뉴콤 스왑해주세요네!

• Shirushi

1. 00:05:079 (7,1) - 뉴콤 스왑해주세요 다른난이도도 그렇게 하셨어요. (7)이 뉴콤스팟입니당~
2. 00:41:244 (1) - 여기머리 휘슬추가해주세요이상하게 들리니까 안넣었습니다
3. 00:59:018 (2,4) - 뒷배경음 맞춰 넣으신거같은데 히트사운드 뭐든 추가해주세요 그래야 나중에 누가 뭐라안할거같아용00:58:915 - 랑 00:59:120 - 에 휘슬 넣었어요. 나머지는 그대로 다 고쳤습니다-

언랭커블이슈만 좀 적어올려요
비트스냅이나 배치는 너무너무 좋아요 ㅎㅎ 한수배우고갑니다..~저도 은이님 맵 보고 배우고 있어요! 저야말로
기닠님껀 wip이라 나중에 와서 다시 한번 더 볼게요
that's it
hope this is helpful...

A Mystery wrote:

Hello! for M4M. If it's alright, I'm going to link a map of a friend (I made a GD on it and he needs it more badly than I do, also my queue kinda changed into a modding team). It's shorter anyway. Here's the link https://osu.ppy.sh/s/313330

Since he doesn't need the mod anymore, I'm going to link this map instead https://osu.ppy.sh/s/320355. Again I do not own the set, but it's a collab (and only 5 minutes)

General

1. soft-hitclap2.wav has a delay of almost 10 ms. I highly recommend removing that.alright

Shirushi

1. I'll be nitpicky about some things but it will improve overall quality

00:04:668 (6) - Curve this slider a little more, it will look better. I get the "slightly curved sliders look better" thing but on a short slider like this it's barely noticeable anyway.wow, nice catch--I used 00:04:257 (5) - and then rotated 15 degrees and placed it on the same spot. Idk what I was thinking back then haha
00:14:942 (5) - If you care enough: move it 1 pixel to the left and 2 down for a perfect blanket with the spinner did something else, moved to 106,208
00:30:559 (1) - Rotate a little for a better flow-5 degrees <3
00:43:709 (7,8) - This jump feels really unnecessary. Consider moving it on the slider head of 00:42:887 (5) - , and making the distance a little more equal between the circles. Did what you said, made a triangle with 2.25 spacing: http://puu.sh/imZ9r.jpg
00:45:353 (3,4) - Curve these a little? It will look less plain than now I like the way it is plain, so no change
00:50:285 (7,8) - I like the idea, but I really think they are too close to each other. Consider moving them like thisdid something similar: http://puu.sh/imZCW.jpg so that this pattern also stacks with 00:49:052 (4) - 's head
00:59:326 (1,2) - Flow could be improved, rotate the slider slightly clockwise.
01:01:381 (7) - Same here, curve the slider the other way around, it will make a lot more sense no change for now.
01:03:230 (2,3) - This has a smaller distance than 01:02:613 (1,2) - , while the drum snare is actually something that could use a slightly higher spacing. My suggestion is to just make it the same
01:03:846 (4,6) - I think this is a bad overlap, remove it if you don't like it either, let it stay when you don't mind
01:07:545 (7,8,1) - Rotate this entire pattern anticlockwise for a better flow like this
01:09:189 (1,2) - I'm not sure what you are trying to do here but it's not snapped correctly to the violin in the background. If that was your plan, the first slider should be 1/8 and the next should start on the 1/12 red tick before the half of the beat, ending on the blue tick or something... You should ask someone like a QAT about this, since wrongly snapped objects can cause a DQ I think the rhythm is fine
01:13:709 (5,6,7) - Do something like this. Basically move the objects to the left. It will have a better flow with the previous slider. done!!
01:15:764 (1,2,3,4) - This feels unnecessarily overkill, the jumps are a lot harder than the rest of the map. I get that this is an intense spot, but it shouldn't have such an influence on the average difficulty curve. I fixed it: http://puu.sh/inJHx.jpg
01:25:421 (1) - ignoring the downbeat with both a change of the voice and a piano note feels kinda wrong. You can use the same slider (but slightly smaller) and add a circle or something. I think this is fine, but I’ll ask!

guineaQ's Insane

1. Uhm I suppose you noticed already but the offset is all screwed up yaaa I’ll ask him if I could change the timing for him once he’s back
2. WIP

Hard

00:12:476 (1,2) - Consider stacking it like you did in the insane, looks better and makes more sense fixed with 0.7x distance
00:22:340 (3) - 1 pixel to the right and down for a perfect stack. I know, the editor ruins them, but it's still visible when playing. okay, nice catch
00:30:559 (2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't feel right for a soft intro of a song like this. Even in the insane this is mapped with some sliders instead of using circles all the way fixed!
01:08:778 (10) - Rotate this clockwise for a better flow fixed!
01:09:189 (1,2) - Same as insane
01:18:230 (7,8,9,10,1) - This doesn't really make sense. Sure there is a snare pattern that could use a higher spacing. However, the downbeat uses normal spacing here, which feels really weird because the beat is so strong that it actually should be emphasized more than any of the previous circles. Move it further away like this fixed in a different way!
01:25:627 (1) - You use a slider for the voice in the insane, but a spinner in the hard. That seems pretty weird to me, so consider doing another slider. Don't forget to map the downbeat if you followed my suggestion in the insanefixed!

Normal

00:27:065 (4) - I suggest making this a 1/4 slider because you shouldn't ignore the pianofixed!
00:41:244 (1) - It will look better with the white anchors moved more to the middle of the slider http://puu.sh/iaeMG/cc1edec1b7.jpg. You actually need only 1 anchor on both sides as wellfixed!
00:53:161 (3) - Move this slider down for a better flowfixed!
01:04:257 (2) - Curve this one the other way for the same reasonthink it’s fine. I moved this to a different axis though
01:25:627 (1) - Again I suggest using the slider and not ignoring the piano notethink it’s fine. I’ll change it if there are more mods about this part

Easy

00:15:148 (1) - This should end on the blue tick. But actually I think you should merge the spinners to 1 spinner since it's an easymerged the spinners and ended at 00:16:586 -
00:18:231 (1) - Move this to the left for a better flowthink it’s fine!
00:22:751 (2,1) - I don't know if this is rankable in an easy, ask for some opinionskay, I’ll ask
01:25:832 (1) - Lol if you don't make this a slider like I suggested in the other diffs, then at least make sure the spinner is the same. yeah, made them all consistent—easy and normal has same spinner; hard and insane has same spinner now. wtf was I thinking

Good luck with qualifying the map! I don't think this mapset needs many more mods I hope so XD Your mods and maps are amazing, by the way! Learned a lot from them

cookie_CoMa wrote:

Natural and funny.

Lefia wrote:

Hi, from M4M queue

mod

[general]

- Check AiMod (ctrl + shift + a) those are fine, except for the one with preview time. It will be fixed if the guy is still up for mapping!
- What is the function of this timing point? 00:59:326 new beat starts there

[Easy]

AR 4? I think it's too high, set it into 3 changed


00:26:449 (2) the slider isn't suitable with the song, don't use 3/4 slider
00:34:668 (1) ^
00:46:175 (3) ^ for all three i think 3/4 fits here
00:37:956 (1) Move the slider to x:8 y:132 ( to fix the blanket ) not intended to blanket!

looks great and thanks for the mod

[Normal]

00:18:230 (1,2,3) don't put this 3 objects closely (how to say it ) it will make the new player confused
00:19:874 (4,5,6) ^
00:59:326 (1,2,3) ^
01:12:476 (1,2,3) ^ they have experience with playing easys so i think it should be fine
00:27:271 strong beat here and vocal's voice, you must add something or do something here i like it this way so keeping it for now
00:32:202 (2,3) remove the curve, then move the slider tail to x:48 y:80 because (2,3) don't have a good flow changed to something else
00:52:339 (2) move the slider to x:184 y:112 ( to fix the blanket ) 00:49:463 (3,2) - are supposed to stack, so keeping it for now!
00:53:572 (3,4,1) overlap??? how about you use two 1/2 sliders? used 2 sliders!
00:55:627 (2) make the slidertick's sound mute not sure if that's unrankable, i'll check later
01:03:641 how about you use 3 circle like you did in this part 01:16:791 (2,3,4) keeping for now!
01:19:668 (2,4) nice flow, but overlap fixed!

[hard]

00:13:504 remove the hitclap sound changed the volume instead!
00:14:120 reduce the hitclap sound (set it into 20%) ^
00:51:723 (2,3) blanket I intended to leave it as partial blanket!
00:53:059 remove the hitwhistle sound whistle hitsound follows piano, so I can't remove it :'(

looks perfect

[insane]

change the slidertick rate into 1

WIP map?

[Shirushi]

00:02:408 (2,3) blanket can't--i don't want to break the pentagon xD
00:14:942 (1) make the slidertick's sound mute im not sure if that is rankable
00:22:750 (4,5) move (4) to x:136 y:144 and (5) to x:192 y:80, it will looks neat fixed
00:23:161 (5,6) blanket fixed
00:27:271 (5,6) stack (5) with (6) no, i wanted to emphasize the strong change in vocal
00:53:059 (5) remove the hitwhistle sound done!
00:57:682 (1,2) i think it will better if you make a jump here No change! it's the same tone of sound, that's why i stacked. Also I think stacking is another way of emphasizing.
00:59:942 (2) move it to x:400 y:136 no, it destroys the flow.
01:19:462 (3,4) will better if you make a jump

there is a jump--DS is 2.51

Nice song

Good luck~

I'll respond to the rest of the mod + do a mod on your map tomorrow! Thanks so much

1. guineaQ has a different preview point

1. 00:03:024 (2) - you can move a bit the first node like http://puu.sh/pQLKk/421ea7e76f.jpg so it looks more cute
2. 00:06:312 (2) - same
3. 00:30:148 (3) - ctrl+g and move to x96 y 308. flows nicely imo
   
   nice map

1. 00:13:093 (1) - i guess you forgot the whistle
2. 00:19:874 (1) - remove nc to keep consistency
   
   holy this diff is so cool

1. 00:15:045 (1) - whistle
   
   holy more cool diffs

1. 00:14:942 (1) -
2. 01:09:531 (2,3) - id increase the spacing a bit here so it makes the 4/12 gap more intuitive
3. 01:24:804 (2) - this makes more sense for vocals http://puu.sh/pQN4n/ba96ee550c.jpg on 1/12 divisor

pkhg wrote:

00:14:942 (1) - whistle on tail xd i forgot to type it

1. There's this but you probably already know
2. Everything else looks good

1. Good!

1. 00:27:476 (5) - I don't like how you skipped an important beat like that, maybe try changing 00:26:449 (3) to a circle and then 00:26:860 (4) into a repeating slider, how you position these changes on the grid is up to you
2. 00:33:846 (4,5,6) - it's better to have this as a repeating slider, or not map it so complexly, 3 single circles isolated like that seems like too much imo but eh I guess it's not that bad
3. 00:34:668 (1) - this sounds better if you take off the repeat and extend it to follow the vocals
4. 00:34:668 if you do the above try to map this beat
5. 00:37:134 (4,5) - I wouldn't suggest stacking two single circles like that, maybe consider making these 00:37:339 (5,6) a single slider
6. 00:37:956 (1) - this repeating slider doesn't fit imo, try doing what I suggested above and remove the repeat and extend it to follow the vocals
7. 00:38:778 (2,3) - (I added in 2 that's why you're not seeing it) this could be a good place for a slider
8. 01:11:654 (4,5,6) - again, it would be safer to place a repeating slider here, because having a player click three circles on 1/4 (red and blue ticks) beats without a slider to rely on to catch them is a bit risky, or i might just be overthinking it lmao
9. 01:14:120 I feel like this beat needs an object
10. 01:16:791 (2,3) - risky 1/4 but I guess it's fine

1. you should add more distance between certain notes, having a hard with constant ds is a bit boring imo, but it's up to you ofc
2. 01:01:380 (6,7) - I'm sort of eh about this, but maybe move 7 down a teensy bit and 6 a bit more up
3. 01:01:380 (6,1) - you should stack these (6)'s end with (1)'s slider head
4. 01:02:613 (1,2) - stack
5. 01:14:531 (6) - move 6 a little to the left+down
   
   hmm that's really all I have to say for the hard tbh, very nice

1. 00:19:463 (4,5) - the path between these notes is a bit forced, I suggest moving (5) back to the right and then moving the angle a bit more down. Curving it would be nice as well, since this part of the music is very soft and melodious. This way 5 can catch 4 better and you still get the emphasis you wanted.
2. 00:20:696 (7) - moving down (7) would feel better so the cursor pushes down on it and emphasizes the instrumentals there,
3. 00:20:490 (6,8) - stacking these would be nice if you did the above and movement into 00:21:518 (1) - wouldn't be so forced
4. 00:22:134 (2,3) - this movement feels a bit awkward, I would suggest either making 3 a straight slider or making it curve upwards
5. 00:22:750 (4,5) - again this path is a bit forced, it was probably your intention but it really takes out the smoothness of this section of the song as the way you have some notes placed is not flowing with the song
6. 00:27:065 (4,5,6) - this is not very comfortable, I feel like ctrl+j'ing (6) and then rotating it 25 degrees on the selection center would be a bit better. move it downwards as you will
7. 00:29:326 (3,4) - I think (4) should be a bit more closer to (3) since the sound on (4) doesn't feel like it needs emphasis, rather it sounds like it needs to be flowed into. emphasizing (5) with some distance would be good though
8. 00:32:202 (3) - curving this would be nice because imo straight slider doesn't feel right here
9. 00:33:024 (5) - I feel like this needs to be a bit farther away from (4). moving it somewhere in between (6) and (7) would be best, and also curving it like them would be nice as well, so it mirrors them and the similar sound they follow (the piano)
10. 00:35:285 (2) - moving this in front of (1) makes more sense and plays better than having to move back like that
11. 00:36:312 (4) - moving this down to somewhere like x=244, y=151 would be nicer, it creates a bigger distance between (5) and covers up more unused space
12. 00:35:901 (3,5) - This overlap is a bit messy, I think it would be better if you moved (5) a bit more to the right and (3) a bit more left (and maybe you could blanket here 00:36:723 (5,8) if you did that)
13. 00:37:956 (1) - move a little more down for more emphasis using distance
14. 00:39:189 (5) - this note doesn't have anything on it that sounds like it should be that large distance from (4), I'd rather you distance 00:39:394 (6) instead since it has a sound similar to 00:38:778 (4)
15. 00:41:244 (1) - I would move this down to somewhere around x=262 y=76 (not there exactly) for a better flow in the path, and then ctrl+g because i don't see the need for that much distance between the objects when they could just flow linearly into each other
16. 00:42:065 (3) - ctrl+g this because distance would be better on this slider
17. 00:44:120 (9,1) - I know these notes are far apart on the timeline, but still, if you remove nc you can see that the path is wanting to go one direction, but then the slider wants to curve down and that causes for a forced movement, not saying you should change anything but I would keep this in mind
18. 00:45:148 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these are all very centered I feel like more movement is needed, so if you can possibly spread it out, that would be nicer
19. 00:47:613 (11,1) - again, very forced here, would probably cause a slider break or something. so a straight slider pointing upwards would probably be the better option here 00:47:819 (1), yes it would cause an overlap with 00:46:792 (8) but eh it's better than the curved slider imo
20. 00:55:627 (3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like these could be so much more than just a circular movement, like emphasis on 3, 5, and 7 would be realllyy nice
21. 00:58:915 (2,3,4,5,1) - I really like this
22. 01:01:380 (2,3) - move more up so the cursor path is more linear between the two circles
23. 00:59:942 (2) - you have a circle here, but no circle here? 01:02:613, both have no beat to map to anyways, but i do prefer it with a circle
24. 01:05:079 (3,4,5,6) - very narrow jumps
25. 01:08:572 (4,1) - overlap can easily be avoided
26. 01:10:028 - same thing here
27. 01:12:271 (4,1) - forced
28. 01:16:997 (4,5,6,7,1) - so goooood
29. 01:22:956 (2) - this actually ends on a red tick
30. 01:24:462 (1,2) - to be more accurate, these vocals actually start on blue ticks, but eh