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slow streams: press down completely and lift up fingers so they are off the keys
fast streams: press down completely and barely lift up, they are always touching the keys and sometimes my keys dont even go up completely

i use rubber dome if that's relevant aswell
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silmarilen wrote:

slow streams: press down completely and lift up fingers so they are off the keys
fast streams: press down completely and barely lift up, they are always touching the keys and sometimes my keys dont even go up completely
I see, that's what I wanted to know. I've been frustrated recently because my fingers have pretty much stopped working. I went from being able to 97% FC Mephisto a week ago (bar one particularly annoying repeat slider near the end) to like an 85% pass today. And I'm due to play in a 2v2 against two 10K players in 45 hours.

silmarilen wrote:

i use rubber dome if that's relevant aswell
wait what :shock:
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get a gf

they motivate you to stream faster
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this is the longest stream I can reasonably pass with decent accuracy
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/67243
no idea how many notes it is, a lot. felt like a badass in multiplayer when everyone else failed but me.

its not that fast but if it was any faster id definitely lose my pacing and fail before it ends

Now, does it matter if a stream this long ends on the finger you start with? probably not. my fingers 'reset' like 3 times during a stream like that so it doesnt matter
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B1rd wrote:

I have another random question about streams: when you do slow streams, how hard do you bottom out and how far do you lift your fingers off the keys? and how does this differ when you do faster streams?
Basically the main difference is the range of motion. You will move your fingers more distance on lower bpm's, yet less often, but less distance at higher, yet more often. Think of it like linear speed, as opposed to point A to point B (finger reset vs finger press). Well actually just practice, don't think of it like anything, it should come naturally. Just an example.
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B1rd wrote:

I have another random question about streams: when you do slow streams, how hard do you bottom out and how far do you lift your fingers off the keys? and how does this differ when you do faster streams?
Not a good idea to focus too much on technicalities. Next you'll be worrying about smooth vs printed keycaps. Really your main focus should be on rhythm. If you get a good sense of rhythm your accuracy just skyrockets.
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KukiMonster wrote:

B1rd wrote:

I have another random question about streams: when you do slow streams, how hard do you bottom out and how far do you lift your fingers off the keys? and how does this differ when you do faster streams?
Not a good idea to focus too much on technicalities. Next you'll be worrying about smooth vs printed keycaps. Really your main focus should be on rhythm. If you get a good sense of rhythm your accuracy just skyrockets.
Good message and shit, but there is a pretty big difference between what he asked and smooth vs printed keycaps. What he asked is actually to do with technique, not to do with gear, which I also believe is minimal impact when it comes to this.
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^ That may be so but it is also dependent on what keyboard you are using (gear). On rubberdome I always lift my finger high and as fast as I can because it is a soft rubberdome keyboard and they depress slowly, but on mech I barely lift at all regardless of stream speed since the blacks are very springy anyway.
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KukiMonster wrote:

^ That may be so but it is also dependent on what keyboard you are using (gear). On rubberdome I always lift my finger high and as fast as I can because it is a soft rubberdome keyboard and they depress slowly, but on mech I barely lift at all regardless of stream speed since the blacks are very springy anyway.
Yeah ofc, but still, technique has a much bigger impact than gear type, especially something as trivial as smooth vs printed keycaps anyway.
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Yeah well sure. Gear vs technique is not even the crux of the matter but you are welcome to elaborate anyway.

Worrying about details that player shouldn't worry about, may cause player to lose sight of important ways to improve (such as following rhythm). Should never have to ask how high you should lift finger as that is a preference that can vary greatly from person to person. Any advice in that regard may even be damaging unless you know the person maybe.
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Looking at op and not the thread, sorry guys:

It depends on if the stream is odd or even numbered, aside from that it doesn't matter how long the stream is to determine what finger you stop with. People tend to map odd streams because they use at least a quarter rest note to give time to get to the next set of notes so you're not pressing quarter notes for the whole entire map on certain songs.

So again,
odd: you usually end on the same finger you start with
even: you end on the opposite finger you start with.

Some players use this fact to simply stream at a pace they know is right and don't worry about hearing exact sounds, instead they focus on the sound that signals the end.

Branching off from this statement: I would recommend you focus on every whole note within a stream to give you a sense of pacing, and then from there try to focus on every half note, eventually you can cut that down to focusing on every single note correctly. If you can't even focus on getting every whole note instead focus on what starts the stream and what stops it, and like I said subdivide your focus from there, generally though if you can't even focus or move fast enough to keep a consistent pace to hit even the whole notes it means you're clearly not fast enough and should move to something slightly slower paced.

Your goal should be making the stream sound nice, not worrying about if you're getting 300s or how many notes you have to hit.
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so, when good streamers do odd streams, do they consciously make an effort to finish on the finger the started with? Or are the not conscious of what their fingers are doing and just do the stream instinctively?
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You've got to be conscious when you start practicing stuff you can't easily do. Things get pretty automatic when you do a lot of repetition. I don't see why even streams would be any differend, they are just rare so you don't get a lot of practice.

I started practicing streaming starting with my other finger, there's a clear difference in amount of thinking about what i'm doing compared to the other finger I've always used before. Less thinking needed when I've kept at it. Playing more helps.
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B1rd wrote:

so, when good streamers do odd streams, do they consciously make an effort to finish on the finger the started with? Or are the not conscious of what their fingers are doing and just do the stream instinctively?
streams with an odd amount of notes come naturally, it's the even amount that i have to pay attention which finger i end on.

this is ofcourse, as jaaakb said, because of repitition. i've seen people who have to pay attention to end on the odd note, or even are almost unable to, because they learned streams the wrong way.
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i never even noticed the difference between odd and even number of note streams until this thread
idonno maybe its because i full alternated for my first 8000 plays and some of that finger memory stuck
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i know when i start a stream on my index finger, and i adjust accordingly, and i use middle finger to single tap fyi, but not much thought is needed to realize this.

i'm also decent at alternating so that may have to do with something as well
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lol why would you even care about "odd" or "even" watchamacallit on any kind of stream AND the finger you have to finish with on any kind of stream?

Just tap it ffs; doesn't matter what finger you ended up on the last note :|
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Kunino Sagiri wrote:

lol why would you even care about "odd" or "even" watchamacallit on any kind of stream AND the finger you have to finish with on any kind of stream?

Just tap it ffs; doesn't matter what finger you ended up on the last note :|
as much as i would like to shit post, i will actual say something legit:

you are strong like a toilet

for the record, it helps to know which finger to press the last note so that you don't over or understream, which is a main problem in songs with complex stream bursts.
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winber1 wrote:

songs with complex stream bursts.
>stream
>complex

topjohj
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it seems someone has not played enough to witness such instances
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