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Maeglwn
Le e/b/in Keepo SMOrc map XDDDDDDD r8 8/8 quality jokes all around 
D:D:D:D:D??? maybe bestest map 2013+2 very fun
D:D:D:D:D??? maybe bestest map 2013+2 very fun<3
P o M u T a wrote:
<3
nice title.ByBy_ChAn wrote:
P o M u T a wrote:
<3
Congratz O/
congratz!
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00:23:404 -
you should have added a new red section on that time because the timing is offbeat
2K post for me
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you should have added a new red section on that time because the timing is offbeat
2K post for me
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.
AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.
P.S. 2007 map love <3
AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.
P.S. 2007 map love <3
gratsByBy_ChAn wrote:
P o M u T a wrote:
<3
WTF...
omfg
They fit with the song though!!! Let art mapping exist!! dopamine is ranked so why can't this be ranked?? xDDDDDDDDDblahpy wrote:
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.
AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.
P.S. 2007 map love <3
DO NOT KILL MODDERS' SPIRITSBlue Dragon wrote:
They fit with the song though!!! Let art mapping exist!! dopamine is ranked so why can't this be ranked?? xDDDDDDDDDblahpy wrote:
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.
AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.
P.S. 2007 map love <3
Maeglwn
timings not offbeatvahn10 wrote:
00:22:481 -
00:23:404 -
you should have added a new red section on that time because the timing is offbeat
2K post for me
thats the point of the mapblahpy wrote:
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.
AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.
P.S. 2007 map love <3
I hate that all playcounters are wrong in this game...
Maeglwn
tfw memes are an excuse to rank bad mappingMaeglwn wrote:
thats the point of the map
Maeglwn
First let's start with what is usually the goal of a joke map.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.
In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.
If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.
Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.
The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.
In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.
If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.
Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.
The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.
if by "poor" you mean "hard to read because of low AR" then oh dear, that must be the first time I disagree with you completely.Charles445 wrote:
First let's start with what is usually the goal of a joke map.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.
In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.
If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.
Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.
The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.
The map was designed to be hard to read and aim. It's called a challenge, and as streaming and aiming are considered skills, reading also should be.
Maeglwn
the set is not poor in the slightest. are we not allowed to qualify ar7 anymore just because people aren't good at playing it?Charles445 wrote:
First let's start with what is usually the goal of a joke map.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.
In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.
If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.
Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.
The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.
its absolutely fine and I already asked several QATs way before I went for rank with this. ar7 doesn't make for bad gameplay. it just makes for people complaining that it's not the same map as everybody else maps
you'll live
you're also putting the entire set based on one of the 4 extras. and if you seriously think that cs2/cs4/cs7 is also an issue then there's way different problems
I actually really like how some difficulties are mapped to make a bit of a joke of what's the trend and be purposefully hard to read or "unliked" because of various reasons (Irre's CS7 or BD's AR7) and I don't really mind it at all, since I do enjoy these settings...
But I do get a bit confused that maps like this still get ranked faster than actual serious maps that have been around for a long long time and are still waiting for a bubble.
But I do get a bit confused that maps like this still get ranked faster than actual serious maps that have been around for a long long time and are still waiting for a bubble.
This map did serve it's purpose and it's really subjective on what you call enjoyable. Low AR =/= unenjoyable.
If this map just had a bunch of generic CS4 AR9 settings on diffs it'll just be completely boring anyways considering it's length.
I'm speaking as a player here (being a mania BN), and I don't usually speak on map threads like this, but if this is disqualified due to the settings then I'll be really disappointed since I really enjoy the map how it is right now.
Just my views anyways. I know there would be a lot of controversy about the AR7 difficulty but not to the point of calling the whole mapset poor.
If this map just had a bunch of generic CS4 AR9 settings on diffs it'll just be completely boring anyways considering it's length.
I'm speaking as a player here (being a mania BN), and I don't usually speak on map threads like this, but if this is disqualified due to the settings then I'll be really disappointed since I really enjoy the map how it is right now.
Just my views anyways. I know there would be a lot of controversy about the AR7 difficulty but not to the point of calling the whole mapset poor.
Maeglwn
map ranking isn't based on how much they deserve it, it's based on 1) number of ranked maps from the people ranking it, 2) general quality, 3) people involved in the mapset, and 4) most importantly, how fast you can find BNsDm1321 wrote:
I actually really like how some difficulties are mapped to make a bit of a joke of what's the trend and be purposefully hard to read or "unliked" because of various reasons (Irre's CS7 or BD's AR7) and I don't really mind it at all, since I do enjoy these settings...
But I do get a bit confused that maps like this still get ranked faster than actual serious maps that have been around for a long long time and are still waiting for a bubble.
thank you, I appreciate thatStarry- wrote:
This map did serve it's purpose and it's really subjective on what you call enjoyable. Low AR =/= unenjoyable.
If this map just had a bunch of generic CS4 AR9 settings on diffs it'll just be completely boring anyways considering it's length.
I'm speaking as a player here (being a mania BN), and I don't usually speak on map threads like this, but if this is disqualified due to the settings then I'll be really disappointed since I really enjoy the map how it is right now.
Just my views anyways. I know there would be a lot of controversy about the AR7 difficulty but not to the point of calling the whole mapset poor.
I don't think he is referring to the AR. The AR is not an issue here. The issue is that you intentionally used patterns which aren't by any means rankable (because they are bad) and then use "but it's an epic meme map and intended to be shit xD xD xD" as an excuse for ranking poor mapping. Remember that there's nothing wrong with mapping for the graveyard if you want to make maps that are not suitable for ranking.Blue Dragon wrote:
if by "poor" you mean "hard to read because of low AR" then oh dear, that must be the first time I disagree with you completely.
The map was designed to be hard to read and aim. It's called a challenge, and as streaming and aiming are considered skills, reading also should be.
I really hope you aren't implying that you'll abuse your moderator powers to remove legitimate criticism.Maeglwn wrote:
you should really stop being so negative, I'm not going to deal with it on my map
"they are objectively bad, it's not my opinion, it's a fact! this is legitimate criticism!"blahpy wrote:
(because they are bad)
legitimate criticism.
Maeglwn
Okay I'll spell it out for you:Maeglwn wrote:
unless criticism is constructive its not helpful or wanted
[BD's Extra]00:10:250 (1,1,1,2,3) - these sliders are 1/4 apart and playing them requires unnatural movement with a ridiculous amount of speed up / slow down, you could fix them by making them 1/2 apart or putting them closer together
the rest of the map, as i've said several times, is fine imo and fun to play
Man, by this logic any piece of shit map could get ranked if one person considers it good. (Not calling your map shit, it isn't, but there are plenty of unranked maps that are shit)Blue Dragon wrote:
"they are objectively bad, it's not my opinion, it's a fact! this is legitimate criticism!"
The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.I agree. If completely unfitting difficulty parameters like the ar7 on bds diff and cs7 on irres are rankable, it sets a huge negative impact as an example and attitude towards the mapping community..
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.
I mean after this, if a nominator or QAT says "This difficulty has ar9 but you should change it to ar 9.5". It loses all its credibility if the mapper can just post a link to this maps thread saying "Oh then why is this ranked?"
Maeglwn
cs7 diffs have been being ranked all yearSotajumala wrote:
The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.I agree. If completely unfitting difficulty parameters like the ar7 on bds diff and cs7 on irres are rankable, it sets a huge negative impact as an example and attitude towards the mapping community..
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.
I mean after this, if a nominator or QAT says "This difficulty has ar9 but you should change it to ar 9.5". It loses all its credibility if the mapper can just post a link to this maps thread saying "Oh then why is this ranked?"
its okay, I'm sure that all of the complaints are going to get this unranked
if this gets unranked I'm graveyarding it
every single diff has the mappers name in it
talk about spitting in the eye of that ranking criteria that i thought was supposed to prevent that
talk about spitting in the eye of that ranking criteria that i thought was supposed to prevent that
Maeglwn
What? You can have the mappers name in the difficulty name as long as its referencing ownership, not something like "BLUE DRAGON STYLE"Riince wrote:
every single diff has the mappers name in it
talk about spitting in the eye of that ranking criteria that i thought was supposed to prevent that
i guess i misunderstood it then or i didnt read enough of the thread to where it got to that point