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Birdy

Joined April 2011

Birdy 2015-03-13T12:53:36+00:00

I thought it's obvious, but some people actually have IRL lives too. The more you know.

~~Updating in a moment, if you could get your fucking priorities straight properly.~~ :^) troled.
~~Actually it's all fine, just like the other 1/4 thing that was not even mentioned. No changes for my part.~~
Wow okay then guys.
Edited all the 1/4 parts while we're at it to avoid further problems.

spoilerboxxy is back

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Kyubey

osu! Alumni

3,097 posts

Joined December 2012

Kyubey 2015-03-13T20:02:55+00:00

Shouldn't kiai part be 260 BPM though?

Birdy

5,720 posts

Joined April 2011

Birdy 2015-03-13T20:13:57+00:00

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Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-13T20:14:36+00:00

Kyubey wrote:
Shouldn't kiai part be 260 BPM though?

no, it still goes to the riverside beat just like the rest of the song

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,393 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2015-03-13T20:52:20+00:00

Alright, talked with Maeglwn via PM to fix the rest in SNB's Difficulty. Qualified!

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2015-03-13T20:55:26+00:00

[loading]

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-13T20:56:45+00:00

Stefan wrote:
Alright, talked with Maeglwn via PM to fix the rest in SNB's Difficulty. Qualified!

~ W A I T I N G ~

MillhioreF

Pro Tester

5,004 posts

Joined July 2011

MillhioreF 2015-03-13T20:58:42+00:00

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,393 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2015-03-13T20:58:51+00:00

oh wait

Pappy

1,020 posts

Joined August 2013

Pappy 2015-03-13T21:00:03+00:00

wh

Asphyxia

osu! Alumni

1,986 posts

Joined June 2012

Asphyxia 2015-03-13T21:06:48+00:00

Oh my god yes

TicClick

Global Moderator

4,416 posts

Joined February 2011

TicClick 2015-03-13T21:10:11+00:00

SPOILER

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-13T21:10:43+00:00

~ Q U A L I F I E D B O Y S ~

~ Q U A L I F I E D B O Y S ~

~ Q U A L I F I E D B O Y S ~

Henri

113 posts

Joined February 2012

Henri 2015-03-13T22:06:19+00:00

Le e/b/in Keepo SMOrc map XDDDDDDD r8 8/8 quality jokes all around

D:D:D:D:D??? maybe bestest map 2013+2 very fun

P o M u T a

2,284 posts

Joined December 2010

P o M u T a 2015-03-13T22:10:04+00:00

<3

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-03-13T22:11:07+00:00

P o M u T a wrote:
<3

[ Mephisto ]

760 posts

Joined July 2013

[ Mephisto ] 2015-03-13T22:11:29+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
P o M u T a wrote:
<3

nice title.
Congratz O/

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2015-03-14T00:23:22+00:00

~~OH MY GOD WHY~~
congratz!

Ayesha Altugle

3,052 posts

Joined October 2011

Ayesha Altugle 2015-03-14T01:21:31+00:00

00:22:481 -
00:23:404 -
you should have added a new red section on that time because the timing is offbeat

2K post for me

Last edited by Ayesha Altugle 2015-03-14T03:13:17+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Bladesu

90 posts

Joined October 2014

Bladesu 2015-03-14T01:47:56+00:00

YAYAAYAYA
another maeglwn meme map

blahpy

297 posts

Joined November 2013

blahpy 2015-03-14T02:44:09+00:00

Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.

AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.

P.S. 2007 map love <3

Last edited by blahpy 2015-03-14T05:12:27+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Moo-Chan

407 posts

Joined November 2013

Moo-Chan 2015-03-14T02:58:44+00:00

yes!
gratz

Akasha-

Nomination Assessment Team

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Joined April 2013

Akasha- 2015-03-14T05:29:42+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
P o M u T a wrote:
<3

grats

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2015-03-14T11:35:53+00:00

WTF...

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined July 2011

Flask 2015-03-14T12:09:49+00:00

omfg

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2015-03-14T16:55:20+00:00

blahpy wrote:
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.

AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.

P.S. 2007 map love <3

They fit with the song though!!! Let art mapping exist!! dopamine is ranked so why can't this be ranked?? xDDDDDDDDD

Birdy

5,720 posts

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Birdy 2015-03-14T17:00:10+00:00

Blue Dragon wrote:
blahpy wrote:
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.

AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.

P.S. 2007 map love <3
They fit with the song though!!! Let art mapping exist!! dopamine is ranked so why can't this be ranked?? xDDDDDDDDD

DO NOT KILL MODDERS' SPIRITS

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-14T17:59:43+00:00

vahn10 wrote:
00:22:481 -
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you should have added a new red section on that time because the timing is offbeat

2K post for me

timings not offbeat

blahpy wrote:
Some of the slow sliders in blue dragon's diff are complete bullshit and make it effectively impossible to SS. You HAVE to play them as a 1/4 full screen jump if you don't want to 100 them, which is quite frankly awful.

AR7 is a really cool idea and I hope the map can be touched up to make it more playable.

P.S. 2007 map love <3

thats the point of the map

Fatfan Kolek

589 posts

Joined January 2013

Fatfan Kolek 2015-03-14T18:24:38+00:00

I hate that all playcounters are wrong in this game...

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-14T23:01:13+00:00

Fatfan Kolek wrote:
I hate that all playcounters are wrong in this game...

5seconds = one play

Its not wrong at all, you just don't understand how full plays and partial plays work

blahpy

297 posts

Joined November 2013

blahpy 2015-03-15T02:32:39+00:00

Maeglwn wrote:
thats the point of the map

tfw memes are an excuse to rank bad mapping

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-15T02:35:29+00:00

blahpy wrote:
Maeglwn wrote:
thats the point of the map
tfw memes are an excuse to rank bad mapping

its not a bad map. it's also not an excuse. you should really stop being so negative, I'm not going to deal with it on my map

Charles445

Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon

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Joined March 2009

Charles445 2015-03-15T05:28:58+00:00

First let's start with what is usually the goal of a joke map.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.

In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.

If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.

Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.

The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2015-03-15T05:33:34+00:00

Charles445 wrote:
First let's start with what is usually the goal of a joke map.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.

In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.

If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.

Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.

The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.

if by "poor" you mean "hard to read because of low AR" then oh dear, that must be the first time I disagree with you completely.
The map was designed to be hard to read and aim. It's called a challenge, and as streaming and aiming are considered skills, reading also should be.

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-15T05:37:56+00:00

Charles445 wrote:
First let's start with what is usually the goal of a joke map.
To be funny! Get some laughs, that's always nice.

In order for a joke map to be ranked, however, it has to focus on a very important detail.
It must strive for good gameplay.

If a joke map has poor mapping, it stops being funny and ends up being a hassle to those involved in playing it.
The joke of how absurd the song or storyboard is will be overshadowed by its bad mapping decisions.

Everybody makes mistakes in maps.
A lot of maps have problems, and that is usually because the mapper was unaware that they were issues. Accidents, as they are called.
The problem with this set is that it has bad gameplay on purpose.

The map is deliberately designed to play poorly, which quite frankly is pretty appalling to see coming from those closely connected to the team.
This set really shouldn't stay qualified, as not only is it poor itself, but it sets a bad precedent for other maps like it.

the set is not poor in the slightest. are we not allowed to qualify ar7 anymore just because people aren't good at playing it?

its absolutely fine and I already asked several QATs way before I went for rank with this. ar7 doesn't make for bad gameplay. it just makes for people complaining that it's not the same map as everybody else maps

you'll live

you're also putting the entire set based on one of the 4 extras. and if you seriously think that cs2/cs4/cs7 is also an issue then there's way different problems

Sophia

266 posts

Joined December 2013

Sophia 2015-03-15T12:56:46+00:00

I actually really like how some difficulties are mapped to make a bit of a joke of what's the trend and be purposefully hard to read or "unliked" because of various reasons (Irre's CS7 or BD's AR7) and I don't really mind it at all, since I do enjoy these settings...

But I do get a bit confused that maps like this still get ranked faster than actual serious maps that have been around for a long long time and are still waiting for a bubble.

Starry-

osu! Alumni

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Starry- 2015-03-15T13:08:33+00:00

This map did serve it's purpose and it's really subjective on what you call enjoyable. Low AR =/= unenjoyable.
If this map just had a bunch of generic CS4 AR9 settings on diffs it'll just be completely boring anyways considering it's length.

I'm speaking as a player here (being a mania BN), and I don't usually speak on map threads like this, but if this is disqualified due to the settings then I'll be really disappointed since I really enjoy the map how it is right now.

Just my views anyways. I know there would be a lot of controversy about the AR7 difficulty but not to the point of calling the whole mapset poor.

Maeglwn

Topic Starter

Maeglwn 2015-03-15T15:50:15+00:00

Dm1321 wrote:
I actually really like how some difficulties are mapped to make a bit of a joke of what's the trend and be purposefully hard to read or "unliked" because of various reasons (Irre's CS7 or BD's AR7) and I don't really mind it at all, since I do enjoy these settings...

But I do get a bit confused that maps like this still get ranked faster than actual serious maps that have been around for a long long time and are still waiting for a bubble.

map ranking isn't based on how much they deserve it, it's based on 1) number of ranked maps from the people ranking it, 2) general quality, 3) people involved in the mapset, and 4) most importantly, how fast you can find BNs

Starry- wrote:
This map did serve it's purpose and it's really subjective on what you call enjoyable. Low AR =/= unenjoyable.
If this map just had a bunch of generic CS4 AR9 settings on diffs it'll just be completely boring anyways considering it's length.

I'm speaking as a player here (being a mania BN), and I don't usually speak on map threads like this, but if this is disqualified due to the settings then I'll be really disappointed since I really enjoy the map how it is right now.

Just my views anyways. I know there would be a lot of controversy about the AR7 difficulty but not to the point of calling the whole mapset poor.

thank you, I appreciate that

blahpy

297 posts

Joined November 2013

blahpy 2015-03-15T21:11:23+00:00

Blue Dragon wrote:
if by "poor" you mean "hard to read because of low AR" then oh dear, that must be the first time I disagree with you completely.
The map was designed to be hard to read and aim. It's called a challenge, and as streaming and aiming are considered skills, reading also should be.

I don't think he is referring to the AR. The AR is not an issue here. The issue is that you intentionally used patterns which aren't by any means rankable (because they are bad) and then use "but it's an epic meme map and intended to be shit xD xD xD" as an excuse for ranking poor mapping. Remember that there's nothing wrong with mapping for the graveyard if you want to make maps that are not suitable for ranking.

Maeglwn wrote:
you should really stop being so negative, I'm not going to deal with it on my map

I really hope you aren't implying that you'll abuse your moderator powers to remove legitimate criticism.

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Mismagius 2015-03-15T21:55:15+00:00

blahpy wrote:
(because they are bad)

legitimate criticism.

"they are objectively bad, it's not my opinion, it's a fact! this is legitimate criticism!"

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