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Yuki Kajiura - Swordland [Taiko]

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_andreamtr
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercoledì 4 febbraio 2015 at 12:58:58

Artist: Yuki Kajiura
Title: Swordland
Source: Sword Art Online II
Tags: Sword Art Online, Gun Gale Online, SAO, GGO, OST, Theme, Battle, Anime, Instrumental
BPM: 130
Filesize: 2397kb
Play Time: 01:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1,73 stars, 117 notes)
  2. Kantan (1,35 stars, 91 notes)
  3. Lino1000's Oni (3,82 stars, 377 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2,35 stars, 245 notes)
Download: Yuki Kajiura - Swordland
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first Taiko Map (Completed, just needs some mods)

Re-download after 14 November 2014 (mp3 cutted)
Re-re-download after 4 January 2015 (improved mp3's quality)

Kantan: 100% (completed - 6 mods)
Futsuu: 100% (completed - 6 mods)
Muzukashii: 100% (completed - 4 mods)
lino1000's Oni: 100% (completed - 3 mods)

Actually modders: Xeno54, lino1000, Neku okazaki, Charlotte, Kamanezu, [-MrSergio-]

Star rating: +21
Xenophilius
This is my first time modding a map, so be patient if I'm not so good, also excuse me for my bad enghlish.

Let's start.

Ai/General/Timing Problems
  1. If you like to map only a little part of the mp3 you used it's better that you cut the mp3 instead of breaking the map at 1/3 of it's real lenght. This will help you mapping and modder modding.
  2. Try to set the slider speed between 1.40 and 1.60 in all difficultyes aviable.
  3. Add tags similar to "Sword Art Online"; "OST"; "Swordland" will not damage your map.

Kantan
  1. 00:06:575 (5) - Is better a Finish sample before a part of no-playing respect to a single Whistle.
  2. 00:13:267 (10) - Using a break here is't a good thing. If you want to map a short map you shoulden't have to insert breaks.
  3. 01:23:421 (75) - Set the Kiai end on that beat, you have setted it a bit forward.

Futsuu
  1. 00:06:806 (1) - That spinnere here does not convince me. I think you can manage better that part of the song.
  2. 00:22:037 (26,27) - These beats sound a bit out of time. I've tryed to move them a notch forward an it sond better.
  3. 00:24:806 (31) - I think you can safely remove this beat, you've usede a Finish before, laying a pause isn't bad.
  4. 00:28:153 (37,38) - Same as 00:22:037 (26,27) move they.
  5. 00:29:075 (39) - This time I think it's better to move this beat back by a notch.
  6. 01:00:921 - Why not a bet here to try following the voice?
  7. 01:19:729 (14) - A slider can be a better choice here, a lenght of 2 or 3 quarters can be good.
  8. 01:21:460 (15) - A notch back sound better. ^^.

Muzukashii
When you have finished I will gladly mod also this difficulty.
Topic Starter
_andreamtr
Thank you very much! I'll apply your mods as soon as possible!
lino1000
Hi i am not too good in modding, but i will do my best :3 and remember, these are only my thought. You can keep what you want and do it as you want.

General Thoughts
  1. I like the song, thanks for mapping it :D and would it be possible for me to do a guest difficulty for it? I would really love to make one. If you let me I could do muzukashii, oni and inner oni difficulty.
  2. You should map most parts of the map (I mean untill the end) or cut the length down to arround 1:30 minute, because it takes too much file size for no reason
  3. If you are new to mapping you should really look at the wikipedia site (https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Beatmapping) it has pretty much everything you need to be a good beatmapper (expect the experience of course :P) and here is a link for taiko specific info (p/2546075)
  4. I think for the Tags you dont have to add a , between everything, but it is no problem, so you can keep it that way i think. And as Xeno54 said already you should add a few more tags. some tips : Sword art online ost swordland theme anime opening gun gale virtual massively multiplayer online game
  5. I am not sure if it is ok to put sword arts online as artist... you should probably check it, and ask a bat or someone who knows better about it if you havent already.
Kantan
  1. 00:15:114 (12) - Make this to a Don.
  2. 00:19:498 (1) - Make this a Kats.
  3. 00:20:191 (2) - Add a Don hit circle there.
  4. 00:28:037 (7) - Make this to a Kats.
  5. 00:32:652 (11) - Make this to a Don
  6. 00:34:960 (14,15) - Better dont make them finish, since new player will have problems even pressing so "fast" the right side, and then even big circles is just too much.
  7. 00:38:652 (18) - Maybe delete this?
  8. 00:42:229 (22) - Put this note to 00:42:114 (22) so that it is more in a stable rythm and easier to hit for new players.
  9. 00:42:575 (23) - Delete this since it is just too hard for new palyers.
  10. 00:45:114 (26) - Delete this since there is no real reason from the sound to place there a note and it makes it a bit easier.
  11. 00:54:344 (37) - Delete this to make it a bit easier or make it a Kats.
  12. 00:56:191 (41) - Put this to 00:55:729 (41)
  13. 00:56:652 (42) - Put this to 00:56:421 (42)
  14. 00:57:114 (43) - Add a Don there.
  15. 00:58:960 (46) - Delete this.
  16. 01:00:344 (47) - Add a Don here.
  17. 01:02:652 (50,51) - Delete those two and extend the slider to 01:03:114
  18. 01:06:806 (54) - Move this to 01:07:267 (54)
  19. 01:07:729 (55) - Make this to a Don
  20. 01:09:575 (57) - Make this a Kats
  21. 01:11:421 (59) - Delete this note.
  22. 01:13:729 (61) - Delete this note again.
  23. 01:17:421 (66) - Delete this note too.
  24. 01:19:729 (68) - Make this maybe to a slider untill 01:21:114 and then 01:21:575 (69) to a slider untill 01:22:960 ?
Futsuu
  1. 00:04:498 (7) - Make this to a Don
  2. 00:04:960 (8) - Make this to a Kats
  3. 00:08:652 (14) - Make this to a Kats
  4. 00:10:729 (5) - Make this to a Dons
  5. 00:12:114 (8) - Make this to a Kats
  6. 00:13:960 (12) - Make this to a Kats
  7. 00:15:575 (15) - Delete this.
  8. 00:20:652 (24) - Make this to a Kats Finish.
  9. 00:21:575 (25) - Move this note to 00:21:806
  10. 00:22:267 (26) - Add there a Dons
  11. 00:26:191 (33) - Better make this to a Kats instead of a slider.
  12. 00:27:114 (34) - Move this to 00:27:344 and make it a Don without finish.
  13. 00:27:806 (35) - Add here a Don
  14. 00:28:960 (37) - Move this to 00:29:191
  15. 00:31:267 (41) - Delete this.
  16. 00:33:114 (42) - Move this to 00:32:652
  17. 00:41:421 (58) - Delete this.
  18. 00:43:267 (61) - Delete this.
  19. 00:45:114 (64) - Delete this too.
  20. 00:47:421 (67) - Add there a Dons
  21. 00:52:037 (74) - Make this a Kats
  22. 00:54:575 (78) - Move this to 00:54:806
  23. 00:59:421 (84,85) - Make them both Dons
  24. 01:00:806 (86) - Add a Kats note here.
  25. 01:04:960 (93) - Make this a Kats without finish.
  26. 01:05:883 (94) - Add here a Don with finish.
  27. 01:08:652 (1) - make this spinner to a slider maybe and make 01:10:498 to a spinner untill 01:11:883 ?
  28. 01:14:652 (7) - Delete this note.
  29. 01:15:114 (7) - Move this to 01:14:883
  30. 01:21:575 (14) - Make this maybe to a spinner untill 01:22:960 ?
little edit : I havent modded (is this even a word?) your Muzukashii dificulty because it is still very early and you will probably change it still a bit more. Later after you finish it I will mod it too : :D

I wish you luck with your map and happy osuing :)
Neku Okazaki
Artist: 梶浦 由記
Romanised Artist: Yuki Kajiura
Song: Swordland
lino1000
Here is a little mod again mainly for the muzukashii difficulty, but with some improvements for the other too.

Futsuu
  1. 00:13:267 (10) - Maybe dont make this a finish, since there is another circle close
  2. 00:35:421 (15) - Maybe make this a finish
  3. 01:07:037 (49) - Move this to 01:07:267
Kantan
  1. You should delete all inherited points expect the one where kiai time starts and ends, because if there is X1.50 BPM for the most time of the song, then it could be a bit hard for newer players.
  2. 00:13:267 (11) - Make this a Kats
  3. 00:15:114 (14) - Make this a Kats too.
  4. 01:12:344 (1,2) - Dont make them Finish
  5. 01:15:575 (7) - Dont make this a finish.
  6. 01:18:806 (11) - Make this a Finish
Now to the main mod. Muzukashii
  1. 00:03:575 (5) - Make this a Kats
  2. 00:04:267 (7) - Make this a Kats too.
  3. 00:07:037 (16) - Make this a Kats
  4. 00:07:267 (17) - Make this a Dons
  5. 00:07:729 (19) - Make this a Kats
  6. 00:09:575 (25) - Make this a Finish.
  7. 00:11:883 (32) - Make this aDons
  8. 00:13:267 (37) - Make this a Kats
  9. 00:15:114 (41) - Make this a Finish.
  10. 00:15:575 (42) - Delete this circle.
  11. 00:16:960 (46) - Make this a Kats
  12. 00:19:267 (53) - Make this a Kats
  13. 00:19:498 (54) - Make this a Don
  14. 00:20:191 (56) - Make this a Kats
  15. 00:20:652 (57) - Make this a Don Finish.
  16. 00:21:806 (60) - Make this a Kats
  17. 00:22:267 (61,62,63) - Move them to 00:22:498 and add a single circle here. If you didnt understand, here is a little screenshot about how i mean it.
  18. 00:22:960 (65,66,67) - Delete them
  19. 00:26:191 (76) - Delete this
  20. 00:44:767 (129) - add a Don here
  21. 00:44:998 (131,132) - Delete those
  22. 00:42:575 (125) - Add a Don there
  23. 00:42:691 (126) - Add a Kats here
  24. 00:44:421 (130) - Add a Don
  25. 00:46:267 (135) - Delete this and move the next 5 notes here
  26. 00:46:844 (139,140) - Delete them
  27. 00:54:229 (13,14,15) - Delete them
  28. 00:57:114 (23) - Make this a Kats
  29. 00:57:575 (24) - Make this a Kats and add 2 Dons after it
  30. 00:58:960 (30) - Delete it
  31. 01:00:344 (32,33) - Delete them
  32. 01:06:344 (54) - Make this a Kats
  33. 01:06:575 (56) - Make this a Kats too
  34. 01:14:421 (76) - Delete this
  35. 01:14:767 (77,78) - Add 2 Dons here
  36. 01:16:037 (82) - Make this a finish.
  37. 01:16:498 (83) - Make this a Kats
  38. 01:16:960 (84) - Make this a Finish too
  39. 01:17:883 (87) - Make this a Finish again
  40. 01:18:344 (88) - Make this a Kats
  41. 01:18:575 (89) - Delete this
  42. 01:18:806 (89) - Make this a Finish Don
  43. 01:19:729 (92,93,94) - Make them all Finishes
  44. 01:22:152 (100) - Delete this
  45. 01:22:383 (101) - Delete this too
  46. 01:23:421 (107) - Make this a Finish Don
ok. That was it. But remember that you still have to cut the song shorter, since there is too much time that is not mapped. Good luck :)
Charlotte
hi~

Gene

Volume=all 100%?

for example→kiai time=80% other 70%

Kantan

SV0.8→1.4

OD2→3 HP2→4

Futsuu

SV1.5→1.4

Muzukashii

SV0.8→1.4

OD7→5

Lino1000's Oni

SV0.8→1.4

OD10→5 HP10→6

notes=no check. Good lcuk :)
Kyuuten
Here's my cutted mp3.
You need to modify it if you want stop the song to a specific point.

If you don't know how to insert the new mp3, just do this:

1) Download the MP3 (right click on the PAUSE and select Save video as... like this) and substitute the old with the new.
2) Now, in the 4 .OSU files, set this:
AudioFilename: Sword-Art-Online-OST---Swordland-Theme-KamanezuCuts.mp3

Now you have a cutted version of Swordland.
Enjoy :3
Topic Starter
_andreamtr
Thank you very much Kamanezu! I've applied the new mp3 :3
It works very well!
Seijiro
Let's see what we can do here :3

k K D d

[General]

Since the audio file wasn't one of the best quality, here's a new one: http://puu.sh/dFw4x/f173d3acdb.mp3
Also, since I gave you another audio file, you need to take care of the timing (but even the first timing was incorrect :3)
BPM: 130,000
Offset: 2283
I'd like to point out this other thing: try to avoid unnecessary SV changes. This song hasn't any so you should avoid them

Little side note: please, use claps instead of whistles next time since they're unhearable :o

[Kantan]
  1. HP is too high, reduce it by 1
  2. The first part is a bit empty. Keep in mind that Kantan diffs should have a star difficulty around 1.50~1.60 to be easy enough yet not boring for the player. So here is an example for the start since usually that's the hardest part for mappers. See below for other suggestions, but keep in mind that you have to add more notes and make your diffs cleaner (they need more order, basically) P.S.: I removed the Finish on 3 you put
  3. 00:07:729 - Add K here
  4. 00:08:652 - Add d
  5. 00:09:114 - Add d
  6. 00:09:575 (6) - Change into k
  7. 00:10:267 (7) - Change into d
  8. 00:23:421 - Add k
  9. 00:23:883 - Add k
  10. 00:25:498 - Add k
  11. 00:27:114 (9) - Move at 00:27:575 -
  12. 00:28:729 - Add k
  13. 00:29:191 (11) - Change into k
    Well....I guess you get it now (at least I hope), so the other minute is up to you :3
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:03:159 (4) - Change into k
  2. 00:04:312 (6) - Change into k
  3. 00:06:389 (10,11) - Move them 2 ticks to the right
  4. 00:21:620 - Add k
  5. 00:22:082 - Add k
  6. 00:23:928 - Add d
  7. 00:25:774 - Add k
  8. 00:27:620 - Add k
  9. 00:27:851 (38) - Change into k
  10. 00:36:851 - Add k
  11. 00:37:312 (54) - Change into k
  12. Again, the rest is up to you since I shouldn't map your map xD
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:05:928 (11,12,13) - Try to avoid this kind of triplets, since are too hard to read for a Muzukashii. Maybe make them all d
  2. 00:09:159 (22,23,24) - Make them all k
  3. 00:13:082 (35,36,37) - Again a mix triplet :/ Maybe make all notes k and add a d at 00:13:543 -
  4. 00:14:928 - Add d
  5. 00:15:159 (42) - Change into D
  6. 00:22:312 (62) - Move it 1 tick to the left
  7. 00:22:543 (63,64,65) - Another triplet here. Make them all k
  8. 00:22:774 (65,66) - Please put some notes in here
  9. 00:25:889 (73,74,75) - This is again a triplet and it's also out of time. Move them 1 tick to the right and make them all k
  10. 00:26:697 (76) - No, you don't need this note here all alone. So change it into a k and add a d at 00:26:928 -
  11. 00:27:851 (80,81,82) - Again a triplet. I guess you know what you have to do
  12. 00:28:082 - Form here you have a lot of pauses. Try to put more notes and avoid using strange triplets
  13. 00:38:236 (110) - Change into k
  14. 00:38:236 (110) - Add d
  15. 00:40:312 (117) - Change into k
  16. 00:40:543 - Add d
  17. 00:42:620 (125,126,127) - Triplet :/
  18. 00:44:928 (132,133,134) - Make them all k
  19. Also, again a lot of pauses you should try to fill
  20. 00:46:312 (135,136,137,138,139) - Watch out for this. You did a good one before, so try to emulate that one (basically make at least 2 consecutive notes of the same pitch [kat or don])
  21. 00:50:120 (149,1) - Please, not this xD They're too close. If you want the spoinner that badly, delete 149
  22. 00:53:697 (9) - Change into k
  23. 00:57:505 (24,25,26,27) - NO xD If you want to switch to this rhythm try to make it more consistent, adding more patterns of this kind. If not, delete 24
  24. 00:58:312 (29) - Sounds useless :/ Delete it
  25. 01:02:466 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - Do you really need this?
  26. I won't mention all the triplets I found anymore, since you can notice them by yourself :3
  27. Again a lot of pauses. Try to fill them
  28. 01:14:697 (76,77,78,79) - Please, no xD This is the outro and the volume is decreasing too so you should keep a soft rhtyhm instead of this.
  29. 01:19:774 (92,93,94) - You don't really need these D
[Lino1000's Oni]
  1. 00:04:370 (10) - Maybe it's just my impression, but this note is in the wrong place. This map doesn't have any 1/3 notes so try to avoid them
  2. Generally speaking, you need pauses, but try to make them not too long. For example: 00:07:774 (27,28) - It's too long
  3. It's actually pretty hard to find something since there are these big pauses which don't let me understand your rhythm: the map, as it is for now, it could be perfect as well as the opposite, since every big pause resets the rhythm and don't let me grasp what you wanted to do.
  4. Last point: avoid doubles or quadruples. Use them only if your 100% sure. For exmple the first part is wonderful but the other parts where you use this same pattern, aren't. So try to use them wisely
  5. Sorry if I can't help more then this, but you need to add more notes to make me understand your rhythm. Otherwise I can't do a thing :3

Alright, that's all.
Sorry for Lino1000' diff, but as I said, I need more material to work on in order to provide a good mod

Good luck with your mapset ;)
Topic Starter
_andreamtr
Thank you~ :3
lino1000
[Lino1000's Oni]
  1. 00:04:370 (10) - Maybe it's just my impression, but this note is in the wrong place. This map doesn't have any 1/3 notes so try to avoid them Dunno why this note was placed as 1/3... it was probably some kind of witchery that did it. its not my fault I swear XD
  2. Generally speaking, you need pauses, but try to make them not too long. For example: 00:07:774 (27,28) - It's too long see below
  3. It's actually pretty hard to find something since there are these big pauses which don't let me understand your rhythm: the map, as it is for now, it could be perfect as well as the opposite, since every big pause resets the rhythm and don't let me grasp what you wanted to do. i just tried to go with the rhythm of the song. I did big pauses because the singing (or generally the rhythm) did too. i should probably try to make an own kind of rhythm or one with the drums in the background.
  4. Last point: avoid doubles or quadruples. Use them only if your 100% sure. For exmple the first part is wonderful but the other parts where you use this same pattern, aren't. So try to use them wisely ok i will change it, and do my best in the future :3
  5. Sorry if I can't help more then this, but you need to add more notes to make me understand your rhythm. Otherwise I can't do a thing :3

Alright, that's all.
Sorry for Lino1000' diff, but as I said, I need more material to work on in order to provide a good mod

Good luck with your mapset ;)
thanks for the mod. I guess i have still a lot of work to do to become a good taiko beatmapper. wish me luck for the future :3
Seijiro
Let me know whenever you want a recheck, I'll be glad to see what you can create :3
Topic Starter
_andreamtr
Yeah, I'm waiting for the modded Lino1000's difficulty...
Nofool
Hi, i posted on your queue for M4M since there still was slots.
So first, the whole set needs a lot of changes imo (easpecialy the Oni, i am too exhausted to check all the pattern sorry ;_;).
I tried to point all the important issues, i really suggest you to apply most of my suggestions, the notes structure still needs more changes.

Also if you keep that much patterns in your Oni, the gap between Muzu and Oni is pretty big, that Oni almost is an Inner (some patterns are hard enough, you still need to place them better tho). In this case you may have to map an Oni lol x_x (so if you decide to change that Oni to Inner Oni and don't want to make another Oni by yourself, then i would be glad to do one btw).

(just in case: k are blue notes, d are red notes)

[Kantan]
A lot of off-beat notes :c
- 00:04:126 (3) - remove this finisher, this spot doesn't really sound higher than the previous ones.
- 00:06:667 (5) - this is not really needed once again.
- 00:07:706 (6,7,8) - are wrongly placed, move them to 1/4 later (on the white lines).
- 00:16:590 - add d here ? more consistency with the pattern i just pointed.
- 00:18:439 (19) - remove ? more consistency again and because this rhythm is kinda hard to play for beginners.
- 00:20:283 (2) - ^.
- 00:20:744 - 00:31:821 - many notes off-beat on this part, i suggest you to remove almost all of them and keep a simple rhythm just like - 00:20:283 (1,2,3) -. I mean keep notes like :
x_ _ _ x_ _ _x or x_ _ _ _x_ _x, these style are both alright for a Kantan imo ("_" are whites and red lines without notes).
- 00:31:821 - add something here ?
- 00:37:359 - 00:49:590 - do similar changes than the ones i suggested for the - 00:20:744 - 00:31:821 - part.
- 00:55:831 (41,42,43,44) - this pattern sounds pretty good, why not using it at - 00:52:129 - too ?
- 01:01:359 - This slider is not at the right bpm, remove it and make it from - 01:01:359 - to - 01:02:283 -.
- 01:09:667 (56) - move this to - 01:09:436 - ? to follow the vocal like you do on the whole kiai.
- 01:19:821 - sliders issue again, remove them and replace the first from - 01:19:821 - to - 01:21:206 - and the second from - 01:21:667 - to - 01:23:052 - to entirely follow the vocal.

[Futsuu]
This diff looks better but you have to make it easier (make smaller patterns).
- 00:00:206 (10,11) - remove them and add k at - 00:06:667 - , just like you did at - 00:13:359 -.
- 00:09:667 (1,2,3,4) - try to not get more than 3 1/2 notes patterns in a Futsuu! i suggest you to remove something here, like - 00:09:898 (2) - or - 00:09:898 (2,3) -.
- Ok then you used a loooot of pattern that are too long. so as i just suggested you, you should remove some notes to make it a bit easier, real beginners can't handle these sudden long patterns.
- 00:46:590 - end this slider at - 00:47:283 -!
- 00:58:590 - add something here, else the previous d sounds pretty weird.
- 01:12:898 (2,4) - remove one (or both) of these 2 notes to emphasize more the vocal, they are not really needed anyways.
- 01:19:821 - end this sinner at - 01:21:206 -!

[Muzukashii]
What happened to the SV lol ? keep everything at x1, only the kiai x1n20 MAX! the song is pretty calm and these SV ups are way too much.
- 00:07:590 (18) - remove ? that part is pretty calm so it sounds a bit better with more break imo.
- 00:15:206 (42) - remove that finisher ? not needed.
- 00:19:129 (53) - maybe change this to d ? personnal pref, i like it more as ddkd dk, sounds better in this case imo.
- 00:22:244 (62) - ballzy use of blue line man x_x it works tho, the only issue is the lack of consistency : why have you not done something similar at - 00:24:090 - and - 00:25:936 - and - 00:27:783 - ?
If you change this, then yeah add something at - 00:24:090 -, move your triplet to - 00:24:436 - and then remove - 00:24:898 (71,72) - ? then do something similar at - 00:25:936 - and - 00:27:783 -. else i suggest you to remove that - 00:22:244 (62) - and do something different, that ryhthm is pretty dangerous to follow.
- 00:29:744 (90,91,92) - complexe patterns are not recommended for muzukashii (by complexe i mean anything that is not ddd or kkk). so maybe use kkk or idk ? safer for rank.
- 00:31:590 (96,97,98) - same here, i suggest you to not use a triplet tho, maybe only k d or juste that last d are enough.
- 00:35:052 - this pattern is totaly nope x_x can be hard to hit even in Onis é_è, maybe just remove - 00:35:398 (108) - and add a finisherfor the next k.
- 00:36:783 - and - 00:38:629 - are also similar to - 00:22:244 (62) - lol ;_; so yeah you should avoid these blue lines i guess.
- 00:40:129 (124,125,126) - swap colors ? for the cool effect k d k ddd with the following d k d kkk (+it sounds a bit better as k d k imo).
- 00:46:359 - a bit dangerous again, maybe remove - 00:46:475 (147) -.
- 00:49:821 - too big again x_x, i believe so you can do something better here anyways, - 00:50:283 - seems to be a good spot for a finisher. No suggestion as i have not found something that sounded incredibly good there yet :c (but you have to change it!).
- 01:08:513 - these 2 kkk would sound better at 1/2 later maybe ? just like what you did at - 01:10:590 (63,64,65) - which fits better the vocal.
- 01:12:436 - wrong bpm here again x_x i wonder what happened to these silders lol. the lenght is good but remake it in the right bpm please.
- 01:15:206 (72) - move this to - 01:14:975 -, fits better the vocal/melody.
- 01:21:206 - too long, maybe use a slider here ?
- 01:23:052 - kkkkK is unrable, whatever the difficulty is (thanks to rules x_x), remove - 01:23:398 (98) - or do something else.

[Lino1000's Oni]
Same comment about the SV.
A bit overmapped é_è... There are way too mcuh patterns in the beginning which is a calm part, it plays a bit weird for this reason.
- 00:08:398 (29,28,30)- doesn't follow anything and is wrongly placed imo, remove this and maybe add something at - 00:08:744 -.
- 00:15:667 (61,62,63) - this part sounds better with nothing imo, to imphasize the following d.
- 00:22:129 (91,92,93,94) - sounds weird, - 00:22:590 - needs a note, so maybe do something like k ddk here.
- 00:27:552 (117,118) - sounds weird even tho it might be in rythm, but i have no idea what to do else... it isn't that easy to map i must admit ,_,.
- 00:28:706 (123,124,125) - sounds weird too, try to avoid using patterns that are not at all on white lines (i mean triplet+ patterns).
- move - 00:36:898 (6) - to - 00:36:789 - i guess since that is the rythm you are following after.
- 00:45:321 - these two pattern really sounds weird as both start on blue lines... try something like dkkd kdk d instead of dkd dkdkk ?
- 00:48:436 - better start the pattern here and remove the previous k. this spot surrounded by 2 patterns sounds weird as the melody is hight.
- 00:59:052 - again this spot needs a note.
- mm for the rest of that kiai, the main problem is that you start and end patterns on blue lines... some kd dk etc on blue lines will work in a high drum and bass song but not for this one ;_;. You must do a lot of changes there imo.
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Good luck'
lino1000

Nofool wrote:

Also if you keep that much patterns in your Oni, the gap between Muzu and Oni is pretty big, that Oni almost is an Inner (some patterns are hard enough, you still need to place them better tho). In this case you may have to map an Oni lol x_x (so if you decide to change that Oni to Inner Oni and don't want to make another Oni by yourself, then i would be glad to do one btw).
really? i think its even too easy for an onii map since its so slow XD also i just FCed it on my first try with the new modded version, and my rank is way too high for my playing skills. i cant even pass most oni maps

Nofool wrote:

[Lino1000's Oni]
Same comment about the SV. yeah i just took it from the orriginal. probably should have looked at it XD changed the slow part to 0.80 and the kiai part to 1.20
A bit overmapped é_è... There are way too mcuh patterns in the beginning which is a calm part, it plays a bit weird for this reason. I had many breaks before, but another mod said that those breaks are bad, so i kinda put some notes in them, thus it might seem a bit overmapped. i personally liked it more before i mapped the breaks
- 00:08:398 (29,28,30)- doesn't follow anything and is wrongly placed imo, remove this and maybe add something at - 00:08:744 -. done!
- 00:15:667 (61,62,63) - this part sounds better with nothing imo, to imphasize the following d. again i just added some notes because of the previous mod
- 00:22:129 (91,92,93,94) - sounds weird, - 00:22:590 - needs a note, so maybe do something like k ddk here. done
- 00:27:552 (117,118) - sounds weird even tho it might be in rythm, but i have no idea what to do else... it isn't that easy to map i must admit ,_,. I will leave it as it is for now. and yeah i thought this song would be easy to map since its so slow, but it has many notes not exactly in a rhythm so its somewhat difficult
- 00:28:706 (123,124,125) - sounds weird too, try to avoid using patterns that are not at all on white lines (i mean triplet+ patterns). ok i moved the 3 notes from 00:28:706 (116,117,118) to 00:28:820 (116,117,118)
- move - 00:36:898 (6) - to - 00:36:789 - i guess since that is the rythm you are following after. done, but it was actually 00:36:783
- 00:45:321 - these two pattern really sounds weird as both start on blue lines... try something like dkkd kdk d instead of dkd dkdkk ? i have done dkkd kd d since i think it fits better with the rhythm of the song
- 00:48:436 - better start the pattern here and remove the previous k. this spot surrounded by 2 patterns sounds weird as the melody is hight. done
- 00:59:052 - again this spot needs a note. changed it to a kdddk so i added a note more
- mm for the rest of that kiai, the main problem is that you start and end patterns on blue lines... some kd dk etc on blue lines will work in a high drum and bass song but not for this one ;_;. You must do a lot of changes there imo. ok i will change most of the blue starting/ending patterns then
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Good luck' thanks for all your help and sorry for all the work i got you to do :3
Nofool

lino1000 wrote:

Nofool wrote:

Also if you keep that much patterns in your Oni, the gap between Muzu and Oni is pretty big, that Oni almost is an Inner (some patterns are hard enough, you still need to place them better tho). In this case you may have to map an Oni lol x_x (so if you decide to change that Oni to Inner Oni and don't want to make another Oni by yourself, then i would be glad to do one btw).
really? i think its even too easy for an onii map since its so slow XD also i just FCed it on my first try with the new modded version, and my rank is way too high for my playing skills. i cant even pass most oni maps

Nofool wrote:

[Lino1000's Oni]
Same comment about the SV. yeah i just took it from the orriginal. probably should have looked at it XD changed the slow part to 0.80 and the kiai part to 1.20
A bit overmapped é_è... There are way too mcuh patterns in the beginning which is a calm part, it plays a bit weird for this reason. I had many breaks before, but another mod said that those breaks are bad, so i kinda put some notes in them, thus it might seem a bit overmapped. i personally liked it more before i mapped the breaks
- 00:08:398 (29,28,30)- doesn't follow anything and is wrongly placed imo, remove this and maybe add something at - 00:08:744 -. done!
- 00:15:667 (61,62,63) - this part sounds better with nothing imo, to imphasize the following d. again i just added some notes because of the previous mod
- 00:22:129 (91,92,93,94) - sounds weird, - 00:22:590 - needs a note, so maybe do something like k ddk here. done
- 00:27:552 (117,118) - sounds weird even tho it might be in rythm, but i have no idea what to do else... it isn't that easy to map i must admit ,_,. I will leave it as it is for now. and yeah i thought this song would be easy to map since its so slow, but it has many notes not exactly in a rhythm so its somewhat difficult
- 00:28:706 (123,124,125) - sounds weird too, try to avoid using patterns that are not at all on white lines (i mean triplet+ patterns). ok i moved the 3 notes from 00:28:706 (116,117,118) to 00:28:820 (116,117,118)
- move - 00:36:898 (6) - to - 00:36:789 - i guess since that is the rythm you are following after. done, but it was actually 00:36:783
- 00:45:321 - these two pattern really sounds weird as both start on blue lines... try something like dkkd kdk d instead of dkd dkdkk ? i have done dkkd kd d since i think it fits better with the rhythm of the song
- 00:48:436 - better start the pattern here and remove the previous k. this spot surrounded by 2 patterns sounds weird as the melody is hight. done
- 00:59:052 - again this spot needs a note. changed it to a kdddk so i added a note more
- mm for the rest of that kiai, the main problem is that you start and end patterns on blue lines... some kd dk etc on blue lines will work in a high drum and bass song but not for this one ;_;. You must do a lot of changes there imo. ok i will change most of the blue starting/ending patterns then
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Good luck' thanks for all your help and sorry for all the work i got you to do :3
The version i moded provided some complexe patterns, usually too complexe for Oni, basically if you applied most of the suggestion it becomes easier so it should be ok but, youmay want to ask a BAT or idk about the spread to be sure.
I know the song is pretty slow but it's more about patterns complexity and the difficulty jump between Oni and Muzu, i might be wrong here so it's up to you guys.

And thanks for taking my mod seriously! i hope this set gets better. gonna star
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