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Yauxo

[Toy] wrote:

So is this real? http://challonge.com/osuantibeat

Or are the actual drawings still on the 6th
There are Teams like Team Kappa b or Team AZER-SENPAI AND AZER'S CAT PLS NOTICE US in that list, while they're not in the list of participants. Probably just an error/test.
Azer
Out of curiosity what would you guys think of moving the round 1 pool to round 2 and making one thats slightly easier for the first round?
Just gathering opinions, nothing official yet or anything.
_WinRAWR

Azer wrote:

Out of curiosity what would you guys think of moving the round 1 pool to round 2 and making one thats slightly easier for the first round?
Just gathering opinions, nothing official yet or anything.
I personally like the map pool, there are only a few that I think could be easier :p
MiruHong

Azer wrote:

Out of curiosity what would you guys think of moving the round 1 pool to round 2 and making one thats slightly easier for the first round?
Just gathering opinions, nothing official yet or anything.
First round pool is fine, just inconsistent. HR picks are a bit harder than the rest of the pool and that's about it. The HD picks are really good though imo and I like the wild card maps like Magnolia & Move That Body in there.

Also just wondering:

-Can we ban maps

-How are you seeding teams
you are pretty
In my opinion the maps are a bit too difficult for a first round, but with the quality of the players on some of the teams it might not matter.
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

MiruHong wrote:

Azer wrote:

Out of curiosity what would you guys think of moving the round 1 pool to round 2 and making one thats slightly easier for the first round?
Just gathering opinions, nothing official yet or anything.
First round pool is fine, just inconsistent. HR picks are a bit harder than the rest of the pool and that's about it. The HD picks are really good though imo and I like the wild card maps like Magnolia & Move That Body in there.

Also just wondering:

-Can we ban maps

-How are you seeding teams

You can't ban maps.

We're seeding teams by rank, there will be 8 seeds, when I'll be done with everything, check the challonge to learn a bit more of how the tournament will work. (Should be edited in 5 hours.)

you are pretty wrote:

In my opinion the maps are a bit too difficult for a first round, but with the quality of the players on the team it might not matter.
80% of all the teams can at least FC 60% of all the maps. So that should be good, imo.
Zweihander-
Adding new member to HeNtAiLoLi's#69: SneakyLeif1020
Yauxo

Azer wrote:

Out of curiosity what would you guys think of moving the round 1 pool to round 2 and making one thats slightly easier for the first round?
Just gathering opinions, nothing official yet or anything.
Imo, for a Round one it's pretty tough and maybe even too difficult here and there (keep in mind that all teams together have a avg of 4844pp, which is roughly in the area where you can FC 170 pp* maps easily, 190 pp* maps with maybe some tries and 220 pp* maps with more focus). Iam not quite sure what kind of diffs you guys would want to put for the future rounds. I mean, we're currently at 5.0 - 5.4 Star diff maps. What are we supposed to play in Round 2, 3 etc? Would the Final include 6.5 diff maps? There arent too many good and fitting maps out there.

Stuff like Seisen Spectacle (230 bpm Streams), Move that Body (Hidden clusterfuck) and Magnolia (good luck NOT breaking there as a not-so-pro player) seem too harsh for Round one. Round two, where most of the lower end teams are not in this tournament anymore? Sure, bring something to seperate the lower ends from the high ends.

It'd be nice to have a noticeable difficulty curve. Maybe release an experimental mappool and wait for feedback?


*rough values, depends on the player
Azer
I have the mappool for the next round completed too, one thing I'd like to mention is that the difficulty curve I'm going for is very slight but it exists
Let's say a regular tournament would have a difficulty curve of 1-3-5-7-9, this would have a curve of 5-6-7-8-9
Azer
actually, we have decided to swap round 1 and round 2's hardrock picks. The mappool will be updated shortly. (To clarify this makes round 1 easier and round 2 harder, mistake on my part)
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

P*Light - BUBBLE RAVER [INFINITE] by Asphyxia
An - Xhroria [Another] by Cherry Blossom
Maduk ft. Veela - Ghost Assassin (Hourglass Bonusmix) [Lumiere] by alacat
Liliana Sisters - Life-Ru is LOVE-Ru!! [cRyo's Insane] by Fycho
M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia [AngelHoney's ExtrA] by -kevincela-
ginkiha - EOS [Lycoris] by alacat
Tristam - Till it's Over [Ultra Hard] by Luanny
Aoi Eir - IGNITE [Insane] by Frostmourne

HardRock:

TOMOSUKE - Ergosphere [Extra] by Charles445
EastNewSound - Eisou Youga ~Meikyou Shisui~ [Lunatic] by Forseen
Lifetheory - Fairy [Impact] by Zare

Hidden:

Kozato snow - Izayoi Sakura [Insane] by Melt
Expander - Move That Body [EXTREME] by fanzhen0019
Kawada Mami - Serment [Insane] by Zero__wind

DoubleTime:

Ceui - Seisen Spectale [Collab] by Arusha Shuna
Tatsh - Joker (Vocaloid ver.) [Insane] by happy30
Chata - Harukaze Dance [Insane] by Laurier

FreeMod:

Hanatan - Kimi no Kiseki [S.S] by Star Stream
Yooh - Shanghai Kouchakan ~ Chinese Tea Orchid Remix [INFINITE] by Gamu
Memme - China Dress [Another] by iyasine

TieBreaker:

Dark PHOENiX - Green-Eyed Jealousy [Envy] by sjoy

Alright, hardrock picks got swapped.
hehe
muh arc
[ BJ ]
Any team that is interested in setting up a scrim match, please pm me!
NightFiend
Team of the names (OPABAM)
Player1:NightFiend
Player2:ArtxE
Player3:little Agile
Player4:Thick Dust
Player5:Prophet
Status:UNOFFICIAL
Tshemmp
Wait, the new HR Maps are supposed to be easier? For some reason I find them way harder than the previous ones, is that just me?
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

Tshemmp wrote:

Wait, the new HR Maps are supposed to be easier? For some reason I find them way harder than the previous ones, is that just me?
They are easier.
Clyine
Ergosphere is hard

And...
Little Girls Counter: 17/21 maps.
Azer
By star rating, ergosphere is the easiest and the new HR maps are about 0.5 stars easier than the previous ones (which will be used in round 2)
Sanae Kochiya
I would like to add imagaK & replace Proxy with [-Cloud-]

(Proxy can't play because RSI)
Azer
another one bites de_dust
mayank0
gl to all teams participating in this ^_^
Kynan
RSI will never get me !!
_WinRAWR

Azer wrote:

another one bites de_dust
Best comment ever
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Seeds are now available!

SEEDS!
TOP-SEEDED


Rhythm Game:
Elysion
MeCarL
HDHR
Nitro
HappyStick
Tokichii
Hanatan
Sinch

Team #Arsecrackers:
WubWoofWolf
Shimox
Omgforz
Xytox
Alumetorz
JappyBabes
isokasapupuja
jesus1412

AntiBeat:
Kynan
Poruteri
NerO
Gokuri
TensaiRhythm
Enon
Doomsday


heilpepi:
talala
cr1m
K_N
BDDav
Splinter572
Pacemaker
_index
CookEasy

VERY HIGH-SEEDED


True Men Gaming:
Rafis
Lucid Astray
wiciu
Jonimay
klubek
Astar
cptnXn

Once Friends Now Rivals:
SpringLane
clp012345
Yakumo Yukari
InabaTewi
Kanon
Defacer
Lantana
Shunsui

The REAL Team USA:
Chippy
Kaoru
kittehcommando
Horo
pielak
Kyou-kun
Xilver15
pooptartsonas

Sacate la mochila:
Glazbom
Salvage
Enhu
benjacala
GaTu
Graphite Edge
Fr0th
Peingod

HIGH-SEEDED


Team USA 2015:
Ritzeh
RIP
Hjaros
xElectroGH
Broccoly
NixXSkate
outohere
Raiku

Dat Culling:
Forseen
LoGo
Emula
Subbie
Shiawase
Jesus[Krists]
Cecile

The Real KaBuM:
ALust
Blue Dragon
Shott
Near
I cant stream
Sooki
Yuki Elison

ALPEN™ IoM Black:
you are pretty
Retart
Saferon
LusoryLoL
Kardet
Bahamete
lovu

SEEDED


Cloud OD9
- [ U z z I ] -
Flandredevil9
MiruHong
Kairi
Death
[Toy]
Shiro-
TrickMirror

Greasy Males:
-Soba-
0120
OK_Kenny
CatsOnAcid
Zodiaack
Hyun
[ BJ ]
Kuya Koala

Milk Style Clan:
FunSprite
Wilchq
No01
Gotori
Gorgotz
Myjuu
HaBEER
Generacja

Freedom:
kablaze
Izanugi
Rezo-
Torahiko
Hijikata95
Jin_Back7
Nekozi
[ 410 ]


LOW-SEEDED


How2osu:
NazzzF
caleb123456
Spritzer
ffstar0716
ClawViper
[ -Scarlet- ]
Rumia-
TequilaWolf

In Doko and Kevs we trust:
Poofie
Kevs
DoKito
Mentional
Keada Senpai
AnteeeK
- Tokiwa -
Rubn

Naughty Grills:
Vell
Damnjelly
[-Shizuku-]
Terces
Toine
Ciniak
[InoriYuzuriha]

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ kneesocks or riot ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
Synchrostar
[AirCoN]
-Tabzz-
Plaatinum
N1nYo
uyghti
Almost
[ ZhengS ]


LOWER-SEEDED


Koshirae:
Index
Reign-
[ Evil ]
Ihavenolegs
M O O N
Dumii
Lumision
RamenOtaku

G-Team:
Yukiteru-kun
Shiratu
Tshemmp
JanteSmith
Proxy
Deadlyneliel
Yauxo

The Melon Brigade:
-[Kirito]-
Coolgav
Lua
Brenbread
Kutsuu
Comett
Kyouko Burst
Satonaka


Crumble Bundle:
Zerg
darklord142
vaporlol
Crumb
f i z i k
Cyferous
Danny

LOWEST-SEEDED


#PIMPSQUAD:
Squeeble
Techniques
Spectrym
Illkryn
Bowzaa
rapidcoinkiller
OldGeezer
Yuri Goggles

#teamhandsome:
handsome
Rtyzen
GSBlank
jcjc
Clyine
Tatch
jaundice_
phox

Team Lucker Dogs:
_WinRAWR
Faur
Raidexx
Ascension
Support
Leotic
Kyou-sei
MomoHD

Team Sexci:
Ximphia
ZeroEchoz
-[Senpai]-
Railgyun
[ Guy ]
Ragna1999
CyanDragons
Ryozu

UNSEEDED


WinnersRUs:
mayank0
Meet
Potla
Cyera Winter
Tacky
TwistedDuck
shahlalalalala
meeeeeeeeeeeeau

HeNtAiLoLi's#69:
Zweihander-
[ Piyori ]
jackisgone
iDanny

Notice Us Senpais:
Rayne36
N1ghtRabb1T
payau
Epixia

FLAT IS JUSTICE:
Ukyo
edwaldo
Ukyos Waifu
Greyyus
[ Pokabyss ]
Dantothenyan
Rhetnerd
Grazell


Don't forget to check the Challonge! as well :p
slushy
a
Icyteru

Humiliation wrote:

my friend's team (20k - 50k) is going against happystick, elysion, nitro, and more. What the fuck?
All hail seeding
Athrun
Just want to say that my timetable does not look good.
I probably may have to drop out of commentator/referee due to family issues as well as scehduling issues :(

I'll update as I go.
mayank0
Are the challonge brackets final or the live drawing thing on 6th is happening?
jackisgone
Take me off the roster :) I'm quitting osu
NixXSkate

jackisgone wrote:

Take me off the roster :) I'm quitting osu
Don't be like that honey.
Also since your team has a new member, your team won't be unseeded anymore (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)
Tshemmp
Mh, I don't like how Challonge puts the #1 team vs the #32 team and so on. Wouldn't it be more exciting if #1 would play #17, #2 vs #18 and so on? This would make sure the best 16 team still advance but prevent shit like #1 vs #32 were the results are totally clear from the very beginning (not saying #1 vs #17 wouldn't be clear either but it would be a bit more interesting to watch). I doubt these matches would be very fun for anybody.
Icyteru

Tshemmp wrote:

Mh, I don't like how Challonge puts the #1 team vs the #32 team and so on. Wouldn't it be more exciting if #1 would play #17, #2 vs #18 and so on? This would make sure the best 16 team still advance but prevent shit like #1 vs #32 were the results are totally clear from the very beginning (not saying #1 vs #17 wouldn't be clear either but it would be a bit more interesting to watch). I doubt these matches would be very fun for anybody.
The point is to not have a rank 32 vs rank 1 semi-finals or some shit.
Yauxo

[AirCoN] wrote:

Tshemmp wrote:

Mh, I don't like how Challonge puts the #1 team vs the #32 team and so on. Wouldn't it be more exciting if #1 would play #17, #2 vs #18 and so on? This would make sure the best 16 team still advance but prevent shit like #1 vs #32 were the results are totally clear from the very beginning (not saying #1 vs #17 wouldn't be clear either but it would be a bit more interesting to watch). I doubt these matches would be very fun for anybody.
The point is to not have a rank 32 vs rank 1 semi-finals or some shit.
Wont happen. If Seed 32 would win against Seed 18 for example, Seed 32 would still be #rekt in the next match, when they play against Seed 4 or whatever
And even IF they win, then they deserve it.
MiruHong

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Just want to say that my timetable does not look good.
I probably may have to drop out of commentator/referee due to family issues as well as scehduling issues :(

I'll update as I go.
If worse comes to hand I'll commentate :D
CptHampton

Tshemmp wrote:

Mh, I don't like how Challonge puts the #1 team vs the #32 team and so on. Wouldn't it be more exciting if #1 would play #17, #2 vs #18 and so on? This would make sure the best 16 team still advance but prevent shit like #1 vs #32 were the results are totally clear from the very beginning (not saying #1 vs #17 wouldn't be clear either but it would be a bit more interesting to watch). I doubt these matches would be very fun for anybody.
With your system there would be NO interesting games. A seeding system like this is meant to ensure that the teams that deserve to get into the next round do, while creating heated contests among the teams that are in the middle of the pack. Obviously first seed should pretty much always be expected to go through barring a miracle or freak occurrence. But now the games that are most interesting are #16 v. #17, #15 v. #18, etc., and part of the exciting thing is to see how far up the chain the matches will be close, like whether or not a #21 will be able to upset a #12, or a #25 upset a #8. With the system you propose, all teams that are higher seeded should always advance, since there is a considerable skill gap in every single match.
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

CptHampton wrote:

Tshemmp wrote:

Mh, I don't like how Challonge puts the #1 team vs the #32 team and so on. Wouldn't it be more exciting if #1 would play #17, #2 vs #18 and so on? This would make sure the best 16 team still advance but prevent shit like #1 vs #32 were the results are totally clear from the very beginning (not saying #1 vs #17 wouldn't be clear either but it would be a bit more interesting to watch). I doubt these matches would be very fun for anybody.
With your system there would be NO interesting games. A seeding system like this is meant to ensure that the teams that deserve to get into the next round do, while creating heated contests among the teams that are in the middle of the pack. Obviously first seed should pretty much always be expected to go through barring a miracle or freak occurrence. But now the games that are most interesting are #16 v. #17, #14 v. #18, etc., and part of the exciting thing is to see how far up the chain the matches will be close, like whether or not a #21 will be able to upset a #12, or a #25 upset a #8. With the system you propose, all teams that are higher seeded should always advance, since there is a considerable skill gap in every single match.
+ That would mean the final would be THEORICALLY #1 vs #16. I guess nobody wants that. Of course the first round wouldn't be the most interesting with my system but ALL the other rounds would be interesting.

mayank0 wrote:

Are the challonge brackets final or the live drawing thing on 6th is happening?
This live drawings will happen. "Top-seed1" just mean that a top-seeded hold this place. It will determine who will be put against who on later rounds.
Yauxo

-Ryosuke wrote:

This live drawings will happen. "Top-seed1" just mean that a top-seeded hold this place. It will determine who will be put against who on later rounds.
So that is what it means. Thanks for pointing that out.

Though, I still think a losers bracket would be kewl

Edit: Also, about that whole discussion above:

Imagine a 2 sided bracket (like the owc one)
The brackets would result in a 1st seed vs 16th seed if you list/fill them left first to right, obviously. This would be easy to fix by having the 1st seed left, the 2nd seed right, 3rd left, 4th right. This would make sure that two top seeded teams would meet in the finals, while preventing the first seed vs last seed matchup I think
Athrun

MiruHong wrote:

If worse comes to hand I'll commentate :D
Thanks. Well, it is not looking as bad but still pretty bad. I need to space out time to pack my luggage as well as some other stuff
Broccoly

-Ryosuke wrote:

If a player fails the map, his score will be nullified and reviving does not nullify his score.
So if you revive then your score will be counted? Or do you mean reviving still does not validate the score?
Yauxo

Broccoly wrote:

-Ryosuke wrote:

If a player fails the map, his score will be nullified and reviving does not nullify his score.
So if you revive then your score will be counted? Or do you mean reviving still does not validate the score?
RIP -> 0 Score
Not RIP -> whateveryourscoreis Score
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