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Bad Apple

-Kamikaze- wrote:

btw I gotta take notice that nowsmart, man I like your attitude. Even when so many pepole criticize you or even throw shit at you you just remain grown up and calmly analayze the situation. Keep on doing what you're doing dude, you have my full support!
Agreed, you really have my respect for how you react to everything! Please keep making maps no matter what people say! :)
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA
Thank you all, wait for disqualify.
[AyanoTatemaya]
i love nowsmart ^^
no homo xD
Yuzeyun

nowsmart wrote:

Thank you all, wait for disqualify.
RIP in pasta 324pp score, you will be remembered

If you need help on SB, I'll be here.
Kyousuke-

-Kamikaze- wrote:

btw I gotta take notice that nowsmart, man I like your attitude. Even when so many pepole criticize you or even throw shit at you you just remain grown up and calmly analayze the situation. Keep on doing what you're doing dude, you have my full support!
+1
there's still many peoples supporting you nowsmart! keep improving your skills! :D
rpcath

[AyanoTatemaya] wrote:

i love nowsmart ^^
no homo xD
Love you too my bro.
Charles445
Where the QATs at? Looks like people are planning to make some improvements here
Akasha-
Hi there nowsmart,

Im come here for a little noticed about SB.img

Umm ... its about: go.png; name.png; nowsmart.png; ready-crop.png

Because ... reason is: its have black background: its will make the SB like this: http://puu.sh/hLsui/4ee4f6e589.png

umm... so, its bad, isnt it? And then, i mostly recommended you to fix that, remove black background to no background

So, i've fix it for you: http://puu.sh/hLsNY/0af352f3df.rar

You only can copy and paste to replace it!

Good luck on the rerank ;)
shionelove
In mania qat always dq in near ranked day
Ayaya

shionelove wrote:

In mania qat always dq in near ranked day
sadism

Good luck on map nowsmart :)
Spy
Hello, I'm going to disqualify the map with these reasons.

Reason for Disqualification


  1. Metadata issue, source should be empty
  2. Poor MP3 quality
  3. Unacceptable patterns and some LN usages
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Additional Modding


[General]
Learning to make storyboard is a good thing. But your effect needs more improvements. Also it looks scary. I can get the feel you want to show in storyboard, but the images fuzzy. So it caused whole feel made us feel scared.
Source should be empty. Also you can add Newgrounds into tags.
And, your mp3 quality is kinda poor, you should change new one.

[ Insane]
My personal suggestion about the HP and OD setting is, you can just try to make it lower.
00:49:774 (49774|3,49824|2,49874|1,49924|0,49974|2,50024|1,50074|3,50124|2,50174|1,50224|0,50274|2,50324|1,50374|3,50424|2,50474|1,50524|0) - Actually this is not 1/4, but I'm not ask you to change to 1/8 or other snapping. But before this part it was 1/4 sounds, I think it may have other way can make this part different from 1/4 parts and not to ruin it. Try to use other way to express this part.
About LN usages, I hope you can read what I said in Extra.
About SV changes, check it in Extra diff too.

[ Extra]
Same as Insane, my personal suggestion about the HP and OD setting is, you can just try to make it lower.
00:12:974 (12974|3,12974|0,12974|2,13174|3,13174|2,13374|0,13374|2,13574|3,13574|2,13774|0,13774|2,13974|3,13974|2,14074|0,14174|1,14174|3,14274|2,14374|1,14374|0,14474|2,14574|3,14574|1,14774|0,14774|1,14974|3,14974|1,15174|0,15174|2,15274|1,15374|2,15374|3,15474|0,15574|3,15574|2,15774|0,15774|1,15874|2,15974|3,15974|1,16074|0,16074|2,16174|3,16174|1,16374|1,16374|0,16574|1,16574|3,16774|0,16774|1,16974|3,16974|1,17174|0,17174|1,17274|3,17374|0,17374|1,17574|3,17574|2,17674|1,17774|2,17774|0,17974|2,17974|3,18174|0,18174|2,18374|3,18374|2,18574|0,18574|1,18674|3,18674|2,18774|0,18774|1,18874|2,18974|3,18974|1,19074|2,19174|0,19174|1,19274|2,19374|3,19374|0,19374|1,19574|0,19574|1,19774|3,19774|1,19974|0,19974|1,20174|3,20174|1,20374|1,20374|0,20474|3,20574|0,20574|1,20674|2,20774|3,20774|1,20874|2,20974|0,20974|1,21074|2,21174|3,21174|0,21274|1,21374|3,21374|0,21474|2,21574|3,21574|1,21674|2,21774|0,21774|1,21874|3,21874|2,21974|0,21974|1,22074|2,22174|3,22174|0,22174|1,22274|2) - Such LN usage we can accept. But your patterns are very uncomfortable, especially in such high BPM song, I hope you rearrange patterns well. It could be better.
00:22:574 - to 00:25:774 - SV changes here are unnecessary. The effect is unobvious. Also It affected playing, you should remove it.
00:28:874 (28874|0,28874|3,28974|2,28974|1,29174|0,29174|3,29174|1,29374|2,29374|0,29374|3,29574|0,29574|3,29574|1,29774|3,29774|0,29774|2,29974|0,29974|3,29974|1,30074|2,30174|0,30174|3,30174|1,30374|0,30374|3,30374|2,30574|0,30574|3,30574|1,30774|0,30774|3,30774|2,30974|0,30974|3,30974|1,31174|3,31174|0,31174|2) - It is just same as the LN parts I mentioned. The patterns are really uncomfortable. Actually, high BPM songs aren't suitable to use much LNs. So even if we accept the LN usage here, but I'll recommend you just use normal notes.
00:31:374 (31374|0,31374|1,31474|1,31474|2,31574|3,31574|2,31674|0,31674|1,31774|2,31774|1,31874|2,31874|3,31974|1,31974|0,32074|1,32074|2) - Unacceptable patterns, as I said, it is a high BPM song, disperse the chord patterns will be better.
00:37:574 (37574|0,37599|1,37624|3,37649|2,37674|0,37699|1,37724|3,37749|2) - Unfortunately, we know you're bored with stairs patterns, but such patterns in 300 BPM is kinda nonsense. Please change to other better patterns.
00:41:574 (41574|3,41599|2,41624|0,41649|1,41674|3,41699|2,41724|0,41749|1) - Just same as I said in last point.
00:44:974 (44974|0,44974|1,44974|2,44974|3,45174|0,45174|2,45174|1,45374|0,45374|3,45374|2,45574|0,45574|2,45574|1,45774|0,45774|2,45774|3,45974|1,45974|0,45974|2,46174|0,46174|2,46174|3,46374|0,46374|2,46374|1,46574|1,46574|0,46574|3,46674|2,46774|1,46774|0,46774|3,46874|2,46974|3,46974|1,46974|0,47074|2,47174|1,47174|0,47174|3,47274|2,47374|0,47374|1,47374|3,47474|2,47574|1,47574|0,47574|3,47674|2,47774|3,47774|1,47774|0,47874|2,47974|1,47974|3,47974|0,48074|2) - LN usage could be better. Also it is same issue as I pointed out, so I won't make more explanations.

Here is an another QAT's example for you.
00:48:174 - The note still remain stream with 1/4 snap, but when at this part.
00:49:774 - All note still remain with 1/4 stream even the music stream are changing and make it more faster than before.

00:49:774 - SV changes in this part unnecessary too. First, it is unobvious. Second, it is burst part, it is unsuitable.
01:00:174 (60174|0,60199|1,60224|3,60249|2,60274|0,60299|1,60324|3,60349|2,60574|3,60599|2,60624|0,60649|1,60674|3,60699|2,60724|0,60749|1,60774|2,60799|3,60824|1,60849|0,60874|2,60899|3,60924|1,60949|0) - Unacceptable patterns, the reason is still same, so I won't just make explanations too.
After this, I noticed there are still same issues. So I won't point those issues out for avoid to write verbose disqualification reasons. Actually this map can be a challenge for players. But before that, you must make everything well, then players can just enjoy the map well. I expect you'll have a good performance, good luck after disqualified !

###BMS
Rido

LeiN- wrote:

good this is how QAT moves.
6 days after qualified.
FAST LIKE LTE
:V
Spy

bakabakemono wrote:

LeiN- wrote:

good this is how QAT moves.
6 days after qualified.
FAST LIKE LTE
:V
I really hope you're QAT.
EFP

bakabakemono wrote:

LeiN- wrote:

good this is how QAT moves.
6 days after qualified.
FAST LIKE LTE
:V
:v
good luck for this map
Redon
I would also like to point out some things that I hope can help you improve your map. (Some of this I'd written before, so excuse any repetitions of what Spy said)

To start off, my view on LNs:
I think LNs are fun when they're used appropriately. They should only be used when both the start and the end of one is mapped to a clearly defined and audible start and end of a sound. This might be the case for something like a synth lead. The release timing of LNs is just as important as the LN start in osu!mania, and so it should be treated for mapping. To me, a loose LN end = ghost note.

[General]

Audio: As I said before, the mp3 quality is atrocious. You should use this one instead.
Metadata: Source should be empty, ThirdStyle probably better belongs into the tags if anywhere at all.

[Extra]
A. 00:12:924 (12924|1) - Ghost note, so you should remove it. You can flip the two middle lanes from 00:12:974 to 00:14:574 to fix consistency in alternating at the same time.

B. From 00:12:974 to 00:25:774 - There is no need for LNs here. The sound you are mapping LNs to is much shorter than 1/2, so in most cases the LN end is basically mapped to nothing. Like Spy said, use normal notes instead.
Also, consider remapping that section using the same jackhammer patterns as you did in the intro. The drum in the background is still the same. Without the jacks, that section is a lot easier than the intro.

C. From 00:22:574 to 00:25:574 - I think this entire section is overdone. You are mapping just one sound with full 4 note chords. I suggest you use only single notes, because it is also calmer than the rest.
I agree with Spy that the SV isn't necessary and hard to anticipate in the current version, but if you limit this to single notes in one lane, the SV might be nice. If you keep it, make it more subtle and do not speed up above 1.00. Just gradually dip to perhaps about x0.80 and back up to x1.00. And make sure you confirm this with a QAT because you probably don't want it DQ'd over the same thing. :D

D. From 00:25:774 to 00:38:574 - See point B. The LNs shouldn't be used here.
Here is a suggestion to consider: This section is also extremely easy compared to the bursts you use in the map. In the background, there is a lot more going on from the cymbal-like sound at 1/2 and sometimes 1/4. The better audio quality should make this easier to hear. Since you are mapping an extra, maybe you could map some of that in and use 3-note chords on the white ticks to create a more balanced difficulty instead of just 1/1. Something that looks a bit more like this (although that may very well be over the top, better ask the experienced players who the Extra diff is aimed at.

E. From 00:44:974 to 00:48:074 - Again, remove the LNs. Not suitable for the sound effect.

From here on, these are just opinions/suggestions. Think about them, maybe you like them, or leave it be if you don't.

F. From 00:52:974 to 00:57:274 - In this section, I think it's a good idea to map LNs to the synth, it is a lot more fitting. However, I think you mapped it in a strange way. If you listen closely, the synth is playing ascending triplets: A short, accented high note follows after two low notes. You mapped this short, high sound as LN but left out 1-2 of the low sounds. I think it would feel better to map only the two long, low notes, or all three of them.
Either this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124404 (in my opinion preferred)
or this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124416

G. From 00:57:774 to 01:04:174 - You could consider mapping the synth LNs too in this section, for consistency. If you use the first alternative I suggested in F, maybe the drums can be baked into the existing pattern to escalate the difficulty a little.

H. From 01:04:174 to 01:39:074 - Same as F. I think this section feels weird to play because you mapped the LN to the short, high note only where it's not so fitting. I think it would be better to use the same LN pattern I recommended for F: Two LNs for the long, low notes and a normal note for the high sound. Just change the direction to represent the shift in pitch.

For F, G, H: I made a short section as an example of how I think this could be mapped. I think it's easier than to explain in words what I mean. :D Give it a try, maybe you'll like this approach.

For the rest of the map, I think you're better off asking the pro players for advice. Some similar ideas to what I mentioned above apply regarding LNs/jacks.

[Insane]

Just a small note here: I liked the use of jacks in the intro and other sections of the Extra diff, but there are no jacks here. Maybe you can use the Insane diff to introduce the player to jackhammers in small pairs, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124647 or even more.

Also, the same thing from Extra about LNs in the first half of the song counts, they should be removed.

-Kamikaze- wrote:

btw I gotta take notice that nowsmart, man I like your attitude. Even when so many pepole criticize you or even throw shit at you you just remain grown up and calmly analayze the situation. Keep on doing what you're doing dude, you have my full support!
Also I agree with this. Your attitude towards the harsh criticism you received is amazing. Good luck getting this map ranked!
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA
OK. Please wait, i will check it carefully.



Thank you so much everyone. I never thought there're many players interest my map and help me improve the quality of this map.
Ichigaki
Good luck nowsmart~~
[AyanoTatemaya]
ganbare!
Shoegazer
Going to pinpoint patterns, more than anything else.
SPOILER
[Extra]
00:28:874 (28874|0,28874|3) - Potential 1/8s could be added, but if you do add 1/8s you should make it 1234 or 4321. The chord after it should be a [12] or [34] for fluency.
00:31:374 (31374|1,31374|0,31474|2,31474|1,31574|3,31574|2,31674|0,31674|1,31774|1,31774|2,31874|2,31874|3,31974|0,31974|1,32074|1,32074|2,32174|2,32174|3) - I don't think these patterns are too bad, but like Spy said, could be better. Try to avoid chains of chordjacks like [12][23][34], if you have to do make sure that they're on one note and not longer than 4 notes, like [14][24][34].
00:37:574 (37574|0,37599|1,37624|3,37649|2,37674|0,37699|1,37724|3,37749|2,37774|0,37774|1) - You should be generally making patterns like these for the 1/8s. 12431243 is ideal because it could be hit as [12][34][12][34] - what Spy recommended is ill-advised in my opinion. If you have to change it though, 12341234 is fine.
00:40:974 (40974|3,40974|1,41074|2,41074|0,41174|1,41174|3,41274|2,41274|0,41374|1,41374|3,41474|2,41474|0) - Inconsistent patterning, try to make them similar to how you would pattern 31.374.
00:46:574 - ^
00:52:974 (52974|3,52974|1,53024|2,53024|0,53074|3,53074|1,53124|0,53124|2) - Patterns are fine considering that there are not many notes before it, but it's generally advised to use [12][34] or [43][21] instead. Keep it predictable.
00:57:574 - ^
01:03:224 (63224|0,63274|1,63324|2,63374|0,63374|3,63424|1,63424|2,63474|3,63474|0,63524|2,63524|1,63574|3,63574|0) - 123 is fine, [14][23][14][23][14] could be repatterned to [12][34][12][34][12].
01:16:974 - 01:29:774 - Has to be layered a lot more, but I think you already knew this and you're already going to make it harder. Follow the ThirdStyle chart for reference.
01:32:774 (92774|0,92799|3,92824|1,92849|2,92874|0,92899|3,92924|1,92949|2,92974|3,92974|0) - could be changed to 12341234[12].
01:35:774 - Could be redone to this. It captures the pitch shift, which was what you were going for.
01:54:574 (114574|3,114599|2,114624|1,114649|0,114874|0,114899|1,114924|2,114949|3) - I know what you're capturing here, it's probably not ideal considering the fact the main difficulty comes from the 1/8 bursts. Not sure what to change it too though.
01:55:174 (115174|1,115174|2,115224|0,115224|3,115274|2,115274|1,115324|3,115324|0,115374|2,115374|1) - [12][34][12][34][12], [43][21][43][21][43] or if you want to keep that pattern difficult, [14][23][14][23][14]. Trills that start with [14] are easier than ones that start with [23].
01:56:774 (116774|2,116799|1,116824|0,116849|3,116874|2,116899|1,116924|0,116949|3,116974|1,116974|2) - 43214321[34] or its mirrored counterpart is better in this case.
02:04:574 (124574|0,124574|2,124624|1,124624|3,124674|0,124674|2,124724|3,124724|1,124774|0,124799|2,124824|3,124849|1,124874|0,124899|2,124924|3,124949|1,124974|2,124974|0) - This is by far the hardest pattern in the map, and also the most annoying. It could be changed to [12][34][12][34]12341234[12].
02:04:749 - Missing 1/8.

Should be all, best of luck. I'll check this map out again once you upload your revised version.
kagiii
ganbare smart ;w; , hope this map qualify again >w<
SPAS-ID
dat 7 tho
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA
Thank you all modders.
All fixed. READY !
DrawdeX
good luck on rerank nowsmart~ :D
Frim4503
good luck on re-rank on this map

sorry nothing can i do here :(
Shoegazer
Sorry for modding later than I should've.

[Insane]
Layering scheme is fine for the most part, I can tell when you're putting LNs on the bursts and when you're not.

01:27:035 - Ghost 1/4s, remove these.
01:35:635 - While I understand what you're going for in this, the two LNs between it does make this 1/8 burst pretty ugly. Would recommend you to change it to a LN.
01:53:285 - Missing note, whether or not you would want a minijack is up to you.

Not much to talk else to talk about.

[Extra]
Definitely a lot better than what it was before, but I feel that it is rather underwhelming. It does seem like the Insane map, just with additional 1/8 walls and other things. I split my mod into two parts, one that's to make the chart considerably harder and one to fix inconsistencies and other things. Would recommend you check out the second part of the mod.

Basically what the second part of the mod does is that it'll make the map considerably harder, both in the length of 1/8 walls and the difficulty of the kiai section (actually most of the map)

00:12:835 - 00:22:435 - I'm personally not too sure why the chords are 3-note instead of 2-note, considering that the sounds at 00:25:635 - are generally harder-sounding but are only layered as 2-note chords. I think you could change those to 2-note chords instead of 3-note chords.
00:44:135 - You can use 1/8s here.
01:12:635 (72635|0,72735|1,72735|0,72835|2,72835|3) - - Should be part of the 3-note jack, as the kick is on the same note.
01:28:935 - Don't be afraid to use 1/8s here, preferably 4321.
01:33:835 (93835|2,93835|0,93935|0,93935|1,94035|2,94035|3) - third chord should be part of a 3-note jack. You can move the third chord to [14].
01:43:435 - Should be a two-note chord, unless you're following what's listed in the spoilerbox.

SPOILER
00:25:635 - Map every sound like this as a 3-note chord. Exceptions would be chordglut sections like 00:40:835 - and 01:45:235 - , where 2-note chords would be fine. For the 1/4s that will be layered to the chords, use the easiest patterns possible. Something like this pattern is good. You can do that for all of them, except for the kiai section. In the kiai section, feel free to use any pattern you like, just don't make them too difficult but harder than the patterns you did for the parts outside of the kiai section.

You can map the kick as 3-note chords in sections like 00:28:835 - 00:44:835 - , 01:16:835 - 01:29:635 - , 01:42:435 - 01:54:435 - .

00:28:735 - You can map 1/8s here.
00:37:435 - Map these as 1/8s instead, the chord as 00:37:635 - could be a [43] or [12], depends on the direction of the 1/8.
00:50:435 - Use a 124312431243 1/8 pattern instead of a LN. This way you would be able to show that there is a pitch shift in the buzzes. This WILL increase the difficulty to 6*, so if that's not what you're going for so feel free to ignore this.
01:00:035 - Maybe use 1/8s here? Your choice.
01:00:635 - 432143214321 1/8s would be better to capture the pitch shift and for boosted difficulty.
01:03:835 - You can map this as 1/8s.
01:32:635 - ^
01:35:235 - Refer to 01:00:035 - and 01:00:635 - .
01:47:835 - You can map this as 1/8s.
01:55:635 - ^
02:00:635 - ^ - maybe use 12431243 instead?
02:01:535 - ^, ending chord could be [12] or [34].
02:07:635 - ^

You've improved this map quite considerably, and that's great. Hope you could take this mod into consideration, best of luck.
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA
thank you very much Shoegazer for very helpful mod. i think it's ready to go now.
Blocko
bzzzt

IRC check
2015-05-28 11:59 Blocko: alright, thanks for waiting
2015-05-28 11:59 Blocko: can we check extra first?
2015-05-28 11:59 nowsmart: ok'
2015-05-28 12:00 Blocko: alright
2015-05-28 12:00 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/532796 Hypernite Industries - Speedcore 300 [Extra]]
2015-05-28 12:01 Blocko: about this one 00:12:835 - i keep thinking that the chords here shouldn't be as intense as the ones at 00:25:635 -
2015-05-28 12:03 Blocko: you there?
2015-05-28 12:06 nowsmart: oh sorry my mom call me
2015-05-28 12:06 nowsmart: i'm here
2015-05-28 12:07 nowsmart: change to 2 notes?
2015-05-28 12:08 nowsmart: 00:25:635 - ?
2015-05-28 12:08 Blocko: those ones are fine because they sound loud enough for 3-note chords
2015-05-28 12:09 Blocko: the ones at 00:12:835 - are the ones i'm wondering about
2015-05-28 12:10 nowsmart: there're hihat, drum kit and melody sounds
2015-05-28 12:11 Blocko: hm, alright
2015-05-28 12:11 Blocko: each note with each sound to follow
2015-05-28 12:11 nowsmart: ah :D
2015-05-28 12:11 nowsmart: but drum kit is not loud
2015-05-28 12:12 Blocko: that's what i was sort of wondering about lol
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: haha
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: 00:14:435 - oops
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: my mistake
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: there isn't hithat sound
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:14 Blocko: so you reduced those 3-note chords to 2?
2015-05-28 12:14 nowsmart: 00:14:435 - this?
2015-05-28 12:15 Blocko: not only that, but the whole part from 00:12:835 - to 00:22:435 -
2015-05-28 12:16 nowsmart: umm.. i would like to follow each instruments, and if 2 notes it will be like insane diff.
2015-05-28 12:16 Blocko: so it makes a difference, alright, i see
2015-05-28 12:17 Blocko: you can leave it as it is then
2015-05-28 12:17 nowsmart: i think it's not overmapping because every note have sound
2015-05-28 12:17 nowsmart: :D
2015-05-28 12:18 nowsmart: or make drum kit 20% > 40% ?
2015-05-28 12:19 Blocko: nah 20% is fine
2015-05-28 12:19 nowsmart: ah ok
2015-05-28 12:20 Blocko: 00:28:735 (28735|2) - map this as 1/8? [http://puu.sh/i3JAP/8d2ed38465.png like this]
2015-05-28 12:21 nowsmart: there's problem
2015-05-28 12:21 nowsmart: 00:28:635 (28635|1,28635|0,28635|3) - - this notes i have to follow
2015-05-28 12:22 nowsmart: 00:28:235 (28235|1,28235|0,28235|3,28435|1,28435|0,28435|3) - - these
2015-05-28 12:22 nowsmart: so
2015-05-28 12:23 nowsmart: i don't know how to put 1/8
2015-05-28 12:23 Blocko: hm
2015-05-28 12:24 Blocko: i was suggesting that because that LN is the same as the 'buzzing' in the song
2015-05-28 12:25 Blocko: and ideally, they could be all 1/8's, but would it make the map a bit too hard?
2015-05-28 12:25 nowsmart: i would like to put 1/8 too but..
2015-05-28 12:25 nowsmart: 00:28:635 (28635|0,28635|3,28635|1) - these notes i have to put 124
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: because previous notes
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: and
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: ummm
2015-05-28 12:26 Blocko: and if it was mapped like 1/8, then the pattern wouldn't really look good
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: anyway i will try
2015-05-28 12:26 Blocko: i see what you mean
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: let's me fix
2015-05-28 12:28 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182639
2015-05-28 12:28 nowsmart: is it ok?
2015-05-28 12:28 nowsmart: i can't find good pattern
2015-05-28 12:29 Blocko: how about this one? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182645
2015-05-28 12:29 nowsmart: oh nice!
2015-05-28 12:30 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:30 Blocko: neat
2015-05-28 12:31 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182652
2015-05-28 12:32 nowsmart: but i still worry about right hand lol
2015-05-28 12:32 nowsmart: anyway it looks good pattern
2015-05-28 12:32 Blocko: nice
2015-05-28 12:32 Blocko: 01:55:635 (115635|1) - 1/8?
2015-05-28 12:35 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182665 ?
2015-05-28 12:36 Blocko: i was thinking more like this since it's the same pitch throughout https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182670
2015-05-28 12:36 Blocko: but that works too
2015-05-28 12:36 nowsmart: let's go to 6 stars lol
2015-05-28 12:37 Blocko: wait you sure about that
2015-05-28 12:37 Blocko: SR's still 5.77
2015-05-28 12:37 nowsmart: just kidding haha
2015-05-28 12:37 Blocko: lol
2015-05-28 12:38 nowsmart: 02:07:635 (127635|0,127635|1) - 1/8?
2015-05-28 12:38 Blocko: sooo 02:07:635 (127635|0,127635|1) - 1/8 on this too fo-
2015-05-28 12:38 Blocko: yeah
2015-05-28 12:40 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 12:40 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:40 Blocko: nice
2015-05-28 12:40 Blocko: what's the star rating right now?
2015-05-28 12:40 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 12:41 nowsmart: 5.78
2015-05-28 12:42 Blocko: whoa
2015-05-28 12:42 Blocko: a few more things
2015-05-28 12:42 nowsmart: hmm
2015-05-28 12:42 Blocko: 01:36:035 - add another note on 2 for the kick, and 01:36:135 (96135|1,96235|2) - ctrl + H
2015-05-28 12:44 nowsmart: upated
2015-05-28 12:44 nowsmart: re-pattern some notes
2015-05-28 12:48 Blocko: how far do you want the SR to be?
2015-05-28 12:48 Blocko: i tested with it by turning other LNs into 1/8 bursts and it went up to 5.9
2015-05-28 12:49 nowsmart: sorry what is the SR?
2015-05-28 12:49 Blocko: star rating
2015-05-28 12:50 nowsmart: i think this is enough because before first rank, this map has 6.16 stars
2015-05-28 12:50 nowsmart: and
2015-05-28 12:51 nowsmart: QAT said to me that i sound make it more easy
2015-05-28 12:51 nowsmart: should*
2015-05-28 12:51 Blocko: hm
2015-05-28 12:51 Blocko: alright, i understand
2015-05-28 12:52 nowsmart: sorry for bad english skill lol
2015-05-28 12:53 Blocko: don't worry
2015-05-28 12:53 Blocko: map looks good to me now, but i also have suggestions with hitsounding
2015-05-28 12:54 nowsmart: change to 3 notes?
2015-05-28 12:54 nowsmart: 00:38:635 - ?
2015-05-28 12:54 nowsmart: ah ok
2015-05-28 12:55 Blocko: that one's fine
2015-05-28 12:55 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 12:55 Blocko: 00:25:635 (25635|3) - missing normal-hitnormal with 20%
2015-05-28 12:56 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 12:56 Blocko: 00:25:635 (25635|1,25835|1,26035|1,26235|1) - what do you think of using the pop hitsound with 8% volume here?
2015-05-28 12:58 Blocko: actually nvm
2015-05-28 12:58 Blocko: it's good the way it is
2015-05-28 12:59 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:59 nowsmart: change to pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:00 Blocko: oh, okay
2015-05-28 13:00 Blocko: 00:26:435 (26435|0,26635|0,26835|0,27035|0) - pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:00 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 13:00 nowsmart: all fixed
2015-05-28 13:00 Blocko: nice
2015-05-28 13:01 Blocko: 00:46:435 (46435|1) - should be normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:01 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:04 Blocko: 02:00:035 (120035|1) - remove the normal-hitnormal hitsound for consistency on this part
2015-05-28 13:04 Blocko: 02:01:635 (121635|0) - change normal-hitnormal volume to 40%
2015-05-28 13:05 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:06 Blocko: 02:07:335 (127335|1) - should be normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:06 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:07 Blocko: can you update it?
2015-05-28 13:08 nowsmart: update
2015-05-28 13:09 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 13:09 Blocko: cool
2015-05-28 13:09 Blocko: can we go to insane?
2015-05-28 13:09 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/532798 Hypernite Industries - Speedcore 300 [Insane]]
2015-05-28 13:09 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:10 Blocko: 00:11:235 (11235|0) - missing normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:10 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 13:11 Blocko: 00:19:135 (19135|0) - should be pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:11 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:12 Blocko: 00:25:635 - to 00:38:435 - should have pop 8% hitsounds just like extra
2015-05-28 13:16 Blocko: 01:20:235 (80235|3) - missing normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:16 Blocko: 01:27:135 (87135|2) - remove pop hitsound
2015-05-28 13:19 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 13:20 Blocko: 00:28:135 (28135|3) - pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:21 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:21 Blocko: update it
2015-05-28 13:21 Blocko: aaaand it's ready to go~
2015-05-28 13:22 nowsmart: UPDATED
2015-05-28 13:22 Blocko: niiice
2015-05-28 13:22 Blocko: thanks for your patience, nowsmart!
2015-05-28 13:23 nowsmart: thank you for help me XD
2015-05-28 13:23 Blocko: no problem

Fixed hitsound inconsistencies and added more bursts to the Extra difficulty (but not too much). The improvement in this map is really great, so let's give this map another shot!

Bubbled!
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA

Blocko wrote:

bzzzt

IRC check
2015-05-28 11:59 Blocko: alright, thanks for waiting
2015-05-28 11:59 Blocko: can we check extra first?
2015-05-28 11:59 nowsmart: ok'
2015-05-28 12:00 Blocko: alright
2015-05-28 12:00 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/532796 Hypernite Industries - Speedcore 300 [Extra]]
2015-05-28 12:01 Blocko: about this one 00:12:835 - i keep thinking that the chords here shouldn't be as intense as the ones at 00:25:635 -
2015-05-28 12:03 Blocko: you there?
2015-05-28 12:06 nowsmart: oh sorry my mom call me
2015-05-28 12:06 nowsmart: i'm here
2015-05-28 12:07 nowsmart: change to 2 notes?
2015-05-28 12:08 nowsmart: 00:25:635 - ?
2015-05-28 12:08 Blocko: those ones are fine because they sound loud enough for 3-note chords
2015-05-28 12:09 Blocko: the ones at 00:12:835 - are the ones i'm wondering about
2015-05-28 12:10 nowsmart: there're hihat, drum kit and melody sounds
2015-05-28 12:11 Blocko: hm, alright
2015-05-28 12:11 Blocko: each note with each sound to follow
2015-05-28 12:11 nowsmart: ah :D
2015-05-28 12:11 nowsmart: but drum kit is not loud
2015-05-28 12:12 Blocko: that's what i was sort of wondering about lol
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: haha
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: 00:14:435 - oops
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: my mistake
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: there isn't hithat sound
2015-05-28 12:13 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:14 Blocko: so you reduced those 3-note chords to 2?
2015-05-28 12:14 nowsmart: 00:14:435 - this?
2015-05-28 12:15 Blocko: not only that, but the whole part from 00:12:835 - to 00:22:435 -
2015-05-28 12:16 nowsmart: umm.. i would like to follow each instruments, and if 2 notes it will be like insane diff.
2015-05-28 12:16 Blocko: so it makes a difference, alright, i see
2015-05-28 12:17 Blocko: you can leave it as it is then
2015-05-28 12:17 nowsmart: i think it's not overmapping because every note have sound
2015-05-28 12:17 nowsmart: :D
2015-05-28 12:18 nowsmart: or make drum kit 20% > 40% ?
2015-05-28 12:19 Blocko: nah 20% is fine
2015-05-28 12:19 nowsmart: ah ok
2015-05-28 12:20 Blocko: 00:28:735 (28735|2) - map this as 1/8? [http://puu.sh/i3JAP/8d2ed38465.png like this]
2015-05-28 12:21 nowsmart: there's problem
2015-05-28 12:21 nowsmart: 00:28:635 (28635|1,28635|0,28635|3) - - this notes i have to follow
2015-05-28 12:22 nowsmart: 00:28:235 (28235|1,28235|0,28235|3,28435|1,28435|0,28435|3) - - these
2015-05-28 12:22 nowsmart: so
2015-05-28 12:23 nowsmart: i don't know how to put 1/8
2015-05-28 12:23 Blocko: hm
2015-05-28 12:24 Blocko: i was suggesting that because that LN is the same as the 'buzzing' in the song
2015-05-28 12:25 Blocko: and ideally, they could be all 1/8's, but would it make the map a bit too hard?
2015-05-28 12:25 nowsmart: i would like to put 1/8 too but..
2015-05-28 12:25 nowsmart: 00:28:635 (28635|0,28635|3,28635|1) - these notes i have to put 124
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: because previous notes
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: and
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: ummm
2015-05-28 12:26 Blocko: and if it was mapped like 1/8, then the pattern wouldn't really look good
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: anyway i will try
2015-05-28 12:26 Blocko: i see what you mean
2015-05-28 12:26 nowsmart: let's me fix
2015-05-28 12:28 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182639
2015-05-28 12:28 nowsmart: is it ok?
2015-05-28 12:28 nowsmart: i can't find good pattern
2015-05-28 12:29 Blocko: how about this one? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182645
2015-05-28 12:29 nowsmart: oh nice!
2015-05-28 12:30 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:30 Blocko: neat
2015-05-28 12:31 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182652
2015-05-28 12:32 nowsmart: but i still worry about right hand lol
2015-05-28 12:32 nowsmart: anyway it looks good pattern
2015-05-28 12:32 Blocko: nice
2015-05-28 12:32 Blocko: 01:55:635 (115635|1) - 1/8?
2015-05-28 12:35 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182665 ?
2015-05-28 12:36 Blocko: i was thinking more like this since it's the same pitch throughout https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3182670
2015-05-28 12:36 Blocko: but that works too
2015-05-28 12:36 nowsmart: let's go to 6 stars lol
2015-05-28 12:37 Blocko: wait you sure about that
2015-05-28 12:37 Blocko: SR's still 5.77
2015-05-28 12:37 nowsmart: just kidding haha
2015-05-28 12:37 Blocko: lol
2015-05-28 12:38 nowsmart: 02:07:635 (127635|0,127635|1) - 1/8?
2015-05-28 12:38 Blocko: sooo 02:07:635 (127635|0,127635|1) - 1/8 on this too fo-
2015-05-28 12:38 Blocko: yeah
2015-05-28 12:40 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 12:40 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:40 Blocko: nice
2015-05-28 12:40 Blocko: what's the star rating right now?
2015-05-28 12:40 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 12:41 nowsmart: 5.78
2015-05-28 12:42 Blocko: whoa
2015-05-28 12:42 Blocko: a few more things
2015-05-28 12:42 nowsmart: hmm
2015-05-28 12:42 Blocko: 01:36:035 - add another note on 2 for the kick, and 01:36:135 (96135|1,96235|2) - ctrl + H
2015-05-28 12:44 nowsmart: upated
2015-05-28 12:44 nowsmart: re-pattern some notes
2015-05-28 12:48 Blocko: how far do you want the SR to be?
2015-05-28 12:48 Blocko: i tested with it by turning other LNs into 1/8 bursts and it went up to 5.9
2015-05-28 12:49 nowsmart: sorry what is the SR?
2015-05-28 12:49 Blocko: star rating
2015-05-28 12:50 nowsmart: i think this is enough because before first rank, this map has 6.16 stars
2015-05-28 12:50 nowsmart: and
2015-05-28 12:51 nowsmart: QAT said to me that i sound make it more easy
2015-05-28 12:51 nowsmart: should*
2015-05-28 12:51 Blocko: hm
2015-05-28 12:51 Blocko: alright, i understand
2015-05-28 12:52 nowsmart: sorry for bad english skill lol
2015-05-28 12:53 Blocko: don't worry
2015-05-28 12:53 Blocko: map looks good to me now, but i also have suggestions with hitsounding
2015-05-28 12:54 nowsmart: change to 3 notes?
2015-05-28 12:54 nowsmart: 00:38:635 - ?
2015-05-28 12:54 nowsmart: ah ok
2015-05-28 12:55 Blocko: that one's fine
2015-05-28 12:55 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 12:55 Blocko: 00:25:635 (25635|3) - missing normal-hitnormal with 20%
2015-05-28 12:56 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 12:56 Blocko: 00:25:635 (25635|1,25835|1,26035|1,26235|1) - what do you think of using the pop hitsound with 8% volume here?
2015-05-28 12:58 Blocko: actually nvm
2015-05-28 12:58 Blocko: it's good the way it is
2015-05-28 12:59 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 12:59 nowsmart: change to pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:00 Blocko: oh, okay
2015-05-28 13:00 Blocko: 00:26:435 (26435|0,26635|0,26835|0,27035|0) - pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:00 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 13:00 nowsmart: all fixed
2015-05-28 13:00 Blocko: nice
2015-05-28 13:01 Blocko: 00:46:435 (46435|1) - should be normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:01 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:04 Blocko: 02:00:035 (120035|1) - remove the normal-hitnormal hitsound for consistency on this part
2015-05-28 13:04 Blocko: 02:01:635 (121635|0) - change normal-hitnormal volume to 40%
2015-05-28 13:05 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:06 Blocko: 02:07:335 (127335|1) - should be normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:06 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:07 Blocko: can you update it?
2015-05-28 13:08 nowsmart: update
2015-05-28 13:09 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 13:09 Blocko: cool
2015-05-28 13:09 Blocko: can we go to insane?
2015-05-28 13:09 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/532798 Hypernite Industries - Speedcore 300 [Insane]]
2015-05-28 13:09 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:10 Blocko: 00:11:235 (11235|0) - missing normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:10 nowsmart: fixed
2015-05-28 13:11 Blocko: 00:19:135 (19135|0) - should be pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:11 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:12 Blocko: 00:25:635 - to 00:38:435 - should have pop 8% hitsounds just like extra
2015-05-28 13:16 Blocko: 01:20:235 (80235|3) - missing normal-hitnormal 20%
2015-05-28 13:16 Blocko: 01:27:135 (87135|2) - remove pop hitsound
2015-05-28 13:19 nowsmart: updated
2015-05-28 13:20 Blocko: 00:28:135 (28135|3) - pop 8%
2015-05-28 13:21 nowsmart: ok
2015-05-28 13:21 Blocko: update it
2015-05-28 13:21 Blocko: aaaand it's ready to go~
2015-05-28 13:22 nowsmart: UPDATED
2015-05-28 13:22 Blocko: niiice
2015-05-28 13:22 Blocko: thanks for your patience, nowsmart!
2015-05-28 13:23 nowsmart: thank you for help me XD
2015-05-28 13:23 Blocko: no problem

Fixed hitsound inconsistencies and added more bursts to the Extra difficulty (but not too much). The improvement in this map is really great, so let's give this map another shot!

Bubbled!
Thank you Blocko ><
Harbyter
le pp rain!
Blocko
Had to update a particular pattern here to make it better, so it got self-popped.
As I said before, let's give this map another shot!

Re-Bubbled!
Harbyter
IRC
19:45 nowsmart: can i request re-qualify lol
19:45 Harbyter: from me?
19:45 Harbyter: xD
19:45 nowsmart: yeah
19:45 Harbyter: who requalified before>
19:45 Harbyter: ?
19:46 Harbyter: before dq
19:46 nowsmart: gravechaos
19:46 nowsmart: he's inactive now
19:46 Harbyter: and who rebubbled?
19:46 Harbyter: bubbled"
19:46 Harbyter: shionelove?
19:46 Harbyter: i think you should ask sione to requalify
19:46 nowsmart: yes
19:46 Harbyter: if he declines then i can accept
19:46 nowsmart: he didn't reply me
19:48 Harbyter: hhh
19:48 Harbyter: my stamina
19:48 Harbyter: xD
19:49 nowsmart: XD
19:49 Harbyter: i can do 750k
19:49 Harbyter: i think
19:49 Harbyter: if i'm in mood to play
19:49 Harbyter: or 800 too
19:52 Harbyter: i think
19:52 Harbyter: at the start
19:53 nowsmart: hmm
19:53 Harbyter: mmm
19:53 Harbyter: dunno
19:54 Harbyter: i think is me that i can't play it well now
19:54 Harbyter: lemme retest
19:54 Harbyter: xd
19:54 nowsmart: make it more easy?
19:56 Harbyter: mmm
19:57 Harbyter: 00:13:835 (13835|0,13935|0,14035|3,14035|0,14135|3,14235|2,14335|2) -
19:57 Harbyter: see
19:57 Harbyter: this transition is weird
19:57 Harbyter: cause from 3 jack into a 2 jack
19:58 Harbyter: 00:13:935 (13935|0) - moving this in 2
19:58 Harbyter: feel more better
19:59 Harbyter: 00:15:335 (15335|3) - move this in 3?
19:59 Harbyter: cause col 4 we got a costant 1/1
19:59 Harbyter: mmm no
19:59 nowsmart: fixing
19:59 Harbyter: 3 is worse
20:00 Harbyter: 00:15:335 - here maybe better in 1
20:00 Harbyter: lol
20:00 Harbyter: 00:15:935 (15935|3) - this in 3
20:00 Harbyter: 00:17:135 (17135|0) - this always in 2
20:01 Harbyter: oky
20:01 Harbyter: feels more better now
20:02 Harbyter: 00:28:935 (28935|0) - suggest to remove
20:02 Harbyter: what do you think
20:02 Harbyter: after the 1/1 triples and the last 1/8
20:02 Harbyter: the rhytm starts to change
20:02 Harbyter: just removing that note can give a break to the player
20:04 nowsmart: all ficed
20:04 nowsmart: fixed
20:08 nowsmart: can i update?
20:08 Harbyter: 01:58:335 (118335|1,118335|0) -
20:08 Harbyter: mov ein 34?
20:09 Harbyter: 02:01:335 (121335|2,121335|3) - suggest this in 12
20:09 nowsmart: ok
20:10 Harbyter: this for a better transition too
20:10 Harbyter: avoiding jacks after the burst
20:10 Harbyter: xD
20:10 nowsmart: :D
20:11 Harbyter: 00:21:535 -
20:11 nowsmart: let's see
20:11 Harbyter: here
20:11 Harbyter: why double?
20:11 Harbyter: 00:20:435 (20435|3) - col 1
20:11 nowsmart: there's heavy kick sound
20:12 Harbyter: 00:20:535 - 00:20:735 -
20:12 Harbyter: then here?
20:12 Harbyter: 00:22:135 - here too
20:12 Harbyter: people won't notice this during play
20:12 Harbyter: sound is so small in 100%
20:13 nowsmart: ok will delete
20:13 nowsmart: fixed
20:14 Harbyter: 00:21:335 (21335|2) - col 4
20:14 Harbyter: 00:21:435 (21435|3,21535|1) - one col con left
20:15 Harbyter: 00:21:635 (21635|0,21735|1) - one col on right
20:16 nowsmart: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3183076
20:16 Harbyter: mmm
20:17 Harbyter: is oky too
20:17 Harbyter: oky
20:17 Harbyter: you can update
20:17 Harbyter: xD
20:17 nowsmart: updated
20:18 Harbyter: now ask for sionelove for requalify
20:18 Harbyter: if he reject then ask to me
20:18 Harbyter: i'll qualify it
20:19 nowsmart: ok thank you very much
20:19 Harbyter: i-ll post the IRC
Outlaww
The insane difficulty has gotten a lot better. Good luck nowsmart. =]
Akasha-
i mean fix the SB, not remove it, b-baka ;w;
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

i mean fix the SB, not remove it, b-baka ;w;
Oh sorry, i have changed the offset and i don't know how move all sb files to correct offset so i deleted all lol.

I'm surely make sb again before re-qualify :)
Akasha-
i know how, lol, i said to you just pokes me when you need
Since its bubble-pop now, remake it but rankable and suitable for players so its can be rank again
Good luck one again ~
IamKwaN
I really appreciate nowsmart's attitude.
Good luck with requalification! It's almost there!
Akasha-
The SB now seems fine to me but the last code seems error, i gave the fixer on your message box
But please fix the black background on: go.png ; name.png ; nowsmart.png ; ready-crop.png
The package i gave you is the img was fixed: p/4150235
The SB seems to be is copy and paste, but its not an unrankable issues so can rank (for my personal opnitons)
Next time, use some code to repeat the effects insteal, i will tell you about it when we both have free time
And yes, the map seems soon be reranked again, i hope its no more problems and playable
Its almost there, good luck nowsmart <3

IamKwaN wrote:

I really appreciate nowsmart's attitude.
Good luck with requalification! It's almost there!
Indeed <3
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA
Today, my laptop was stolen. Can't update for a while.

very sad.. My laptop...

Let's me find a thief.
akebono
good luck.
also rip your laptop
Topic Starter
PANDAAAAAAAA

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

The SB now seems fine to me but the last code seems error, i gave the fixer on your message box
But please fix the black background on: go.png ; name.png ; nowsmart.png ; ready-crop.png
The package i gave you is the img was fixed: p/4150235
The SB seems to be is copy and paste, but its not an unrankable issues so can rank (for my personal opnitons)
Next time, use some code to repeat the effects insteal, i will tell you about it when we both have free time
And yes, the map seems soon be reranked again, i hope its no more problems and playable
Its almost there, good luck nowsmart <3

IamKwaN wrote:

I really appreciate nowsmart's attitude.
Good luck with requalification! It's almost there!
Indeed <3
Thank you Updated.
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