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DJ SEVEN aka sebeneP - Charon

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Karuta-_old_1
that 8 stars difficulty, notes even go out of range lol
Topic Starter
Asfand
Work in progress 8-)
ZinaMarina
Well met, comrade! (From m4m)

General
  • Why so quiet? I can't hear hitsounds
Easy
Удачи тебе с этим // Good luck
Topic Starter
Asfand

ZinaMarina wrote:

Well met, comrade! (From m4m)

General
  • Why so quiet? I can't hear hitsounds
will change

Easy

  • 01:31:727 (2) circle on red tick. It's difficult to read on easy. Maybe make smth like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124392 ? follow vocal
    01:33:956 (1,2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124421 sounds better i think vocal
    02:04:299 (6,1) Again red ticks. Make slider from 02:04:470 to 02:05:156 I don't see the issue slider before ends on red
    02:29:499 (1,2,3,1,2,3) quite difficult for a beginner. Try https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124465 and same slider on 02:32:242 without circles (some rest before spinner) Agree will change
Удачи тебе с этим // Good luck
Thanks!
annika69
random mod fordi hvorfor ikke
[Generelt]
- Tror at du må lage en advanced diff elns imellom normal og hard siden difficult spread

[Normal]
00:15:785 (3) - Syntes at den slutten på slideren ikke var så nice imo så ville heller ha bare fjerna det røde punktet eller kanskje flytta det nærmere sliderheaden??
00:35:327 (4) - Flytt den til X: 152 Y: 208 sånn at trekanten blir finere
00:35:670 (5,1,2) - Syntes at de er for nærme hverandre, ser ikke nice ut
00:37:042 (2) - Du følger vokalene, right?? Så tror at det høres bedre ut om du gjør den slideren en beat lengere
00:48:699 (3,4) - Høres bedre om du gjør 3 om til en hitcircle og flytter 4 en beat tidligere, samme med 01:54:528 (3,4)
01:19:899 (4) - Fiks teppet
01:30:870 (1,2,3,4,5) - Syntes virkelig at du burde endre rytmen her altså, kanskje noe som dette: http://puu.sh/itNYn/1b8b4e6a70.jpg
01:36:527 (2) - hva i
01:40:127 (2) - Denne slideren kunne ha sett bedre ut altså, men ihvertfall så fiks teppet. kanskje putte på enda ett punkt?
01:52:813 (5) - Flytt til X: 340 Y: 280

Men ja veldig nice map og sang, lykke til med rank :)
Quichey

caren_sk wrote:

fix→DJ SEVEN aka sebeneP
add tag →Negoto

osu! need more Negoto...
Wouldn't it be Negoto as the artist, and the song Charon (DJ SEVEN Remix)?
Topic Starter
Asfand
thrown too many stars to not complete this. phoenix down -1
Topic Starter
Asfand

Quiesce wrote:

caren_sk wrote:

fix→DJ SEVEN aka sebeneP
add tag →Negoto

osu! need more Negoto...
Wouldn't it be Negoto as the artist, and the song Charon (DJ SEVEN Remix)?

I actually have no idea what to call this. I copied the name from DJ SEVEN's soudcloud. https://soundcloud.com/therhythmrights/ ... -pnb-refix
sorciere
yo asfand, I spent some time reworking and improving lotsa stuff.
map is here : http://puu.sh/jc0RL/dda0741190.osu
You can do it! :)
Quichey

Asfand wrote:

I actually have no idea what to call this. I copied the name from DJ SEVEN's soudcloud. https://soundcloud.com/therhythmrights/ ... -pnb-refix
Since the melody and harmonies are derived from Negoto - Charon, it only seems fitting.
https://vimeo.com/46099920
Eventually down the line, it needs to be addressed. Might as well start now.
BarkingMadDog
Some changes made, updaterino pls.

http://puu.sh/jnGaZ/f20b76510b.txt
Aerie
[Devotion]
Alright, I'm the absolute worst at modding, and I only picked out the very rough things I saw in the start, but here's what I think anyway.
  1. 00:13:385 (6,1) - Put this slider slightly more towards the middle, so it keeps some of the spacing, without almost stopping completely.
  2. 00:37:042 (7) - New combo, just fluff.
  3. 00:40:470 (5) - Move this circle slightly away from the slider so it doesn't overlap. Earlier in the map when one circle overlaps your slider, it hits at 1/4, not 2/4, which can cause confusion.
  4. 00:42:527 (1,2,3) - This. While the kicks in the song call for something like this, it's incredibly hard and throws you off. If you still want to keep the jumps in, I would suggest making them a lot less spaced, and have the last reverse slider hit the start of your stream.
  5. 00:43:042 (3,4,6) etc - While I am terrible at streams, I think this is way harder than it should be. Less spacing, less twisting and turning.
It's 5 AM and I'm sleepy, take this with a grain of salt from someone who barely has any experience!
Yamicchi
Hi :3 Late M4M (school started)
[General]
- Check AiMod
- The gap between Normal and Hard is too large
[Normal]
00:20:927 - there's still music to map here. Did you mean to do that or...?
00:31:899 - ^
00:39:099 (1,2) - blanket
00:54:870 (4) - Ctrl + G. The current pattern will lead the newbies to the slider end of 4
01:31:213 - must have something here?
01:31:899 - ^? 1,2,3 definitely a bad pattern
01:36:013 - ^
02:00:699 (4) - fix the blanket
02:05:499 (2,3) - ^
02:13:042 (2,4) - bad overlap
02:37:727 (1) - spinner end here
02:29:499 (2,3,4) - is it me or the DS here is really wrong?
[Hard]
I was like "What? I'm modding Insane already? When I modded this diff. Too hard. Neft it. Less jump.
00:01:385 (1) - curve it down
00:05:842 (2,3) - blanket
01:23:327 (7,1) - confusing DS
01:31:899 (1,2,4) - this looks like a mess. Try to avoid the bad overlap like this
01:34:899 (2) - ? This slider doesn't follow any of the rhythm
01:54:185 (4,5) - need better stack between slider end 4 and slider body 5
I can't mod harder diff :( sorry. The map isn't good enough, as I think. Too much overlap and wrong DS, wrong rhythm. Anyway, good luck :3
Topic Starter
Asfand
lets try this again
Log Off Now
I love this map and song so much ^^

Placeholder for mod (only if you want it though, noticed the description and wasn't sure if you don't want any mods yet)

Take a couple of stars :D
Topic Starter
Asfand
Thanks @Log Off Now

And yes as said this doesn't need modding just yet. I could message you later once its done, and if you're still up to modding!
Log Off Now
Sure!! ^^
jigglypuff
I see that you're updating this map again.
bananannian
~heyo~

I haven't forgotten about this map :3

Banana's Muzukashii
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 44927
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
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[Editor]
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Title:Charon
TitleUnicode:カロン
Artist:DJ SEVEN aka sebeneP
ArtistUnicode:DJ SEVEN aka セベネP
Creator:Asfand
Version:Banana's Muzukashii
Source:
Tags:Negoto Drum and n' Bass DnB Keada Rokkea BarkingMadDog
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Asfand
I'll add them with the next update @bananannian
thanks!
Topic Starter
Asfand
okay, lets do it.

added your diffs bananannian
Nao Tomori
holy moly this is old

irc mod / testplay thing
02:00 regN: link the ones
02:00 regN: here
02:00 Nao Tomori: 00:42:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
02:00 Nao Tomori: i can't really hear it
02:01 Nao Tomori: 00:53:499 (2) - this is weird
02:01 regN: I hear all of them
02:01 Nao Tomori: hm
02:01 Nao Tomori: it isnt terribly overmapped but might raise some eyebrows
02:02 Nao Tomori: 01:40:385 (2) - for this part
02:02 Nao Tomori: you can use a slow 1/2 slider instead
02:02 Nao Tomori: it'll fit better imo
02:03 Nao Tomori: 01:40:385 - i think there's a note here
02:03 regN: I want to have a press on every major note
02:03 regN: err
02:03 regN: sound
02:03 Nao Tomori: i mean you make 2 into a 1/2 slider
02:03 Nao Tomori: instead of of a 1/4 repeat slider
02:03 Nao Tomori: it's the same length
02:03 regN: 01:40:470 - this sound though
02:04 Nao Tomori: you aren't pressing the repeat slider anyway
02:04 regN: should I just skip it you mean?
02:04 Nao Tomori: trust me it looks super weird while playing
02:04 Nao Tomori: cuz the sound is super quiet
02:04 Nao Tomori: it mostly follows the guitar right
02:04 Nao Tomori: so the guitar doesnt have much a sound on the white tick
02:05 regN: aight
02:05 regN: Ill do that
02:05 Nao Tomori: 01:59:327 (2) - these dont look good man
02:05 Nao Tomori: 02:07:556 (1) - this is borderline unrankable
02:05 regN: they fit the sound so well
02:06 Nao Tomori: i guess..
02:06 Nao Tomori: definitely change v
02:06 Nao Tomori: 02:07:556 (1) -
02:06 regN: I did
02:06 regN: http://puu.sh/ogqz1/35b248fa5f.jpg
02:06 Nao Tomori: ok tht is better
02:07 Nao Tomori: but i think you should make the curve go out the bottom more
02:07 Nao Tomori: since thats where the cursor is moving
02:10 regN: aight think I fixed it

good luck
Kor3ry3-Kun
A wild tester has appear
Extra diff:
00:58:127 (5) - This Slider needs to be modified so its possible for HD/HR players
01:07:213 (1) - That should be a spinner

Thats all from me
Grrum
Hi. Here for M4M. Hope this helps!

So I went pretty deep in this mod, so I don't expect you to agree with all these suggestions. I am trying to throw my style into yours and so I expect for us to have different perspectives, but that's part of the point of modding. Take what is useful to what you are already doing out of this mod and leave the rest.

[Extra]

I modded before your update. It doesn't look like there's much that would change in my mod, but if there is I apologize.

00:21:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – Consider this rhythm to go more with the drums: http://puu.sh/ojMQJ/dafb65bfa9.jpg

00:27:099 (5,6) – This felt better than 00:25:556 (5,6) - . Either way, I think you should be more consistent with your visuals here. (comment below related)
00:26:927 (4,5,6) - With that said, I don't really like this flow. Try giving more of an angle into (6) to give it more emphasis. http://puu.sh/ojNK3/c328fa3fe9.jpg

00:30:356 (2,4) – This overlap doesn't look great

00:34:299 (7) – move NC here?

00:36:013 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) – Oh, so you are following the drums here. Why didn't you follow the drums at 00:34:299 (7,1,2,3) - ? If you don't start on the drums here, going with the drums later feels odd.

00:45:270 (1,2,3,4) – There could be a bigger spacing somewhere in here to start off the kiai stronger. Instinctively I would put it on (1), but I can respect you want this to go with the SV change. If so, then maybe put a big spacing into (2). I have the same quarrels with the flow into (4) as 00:27:099 (5,6) – because the linear anti-flow feels odd.

00:48:699 (1) – I think this is a strong note, so consider increasing the DS into it. This would mean unstacking 00:48:356 (4,1) -
Although now that I think about it, you might want to rotate 00:48:356 (4) – a bit so the flow from (3) is a little smoother: http://puu.sh/ojVLS/9dfa651db7.jpg

00:50:413 (1,2) – Consider making this a ½ slider instead. The benefit of doing this would be to start this stack/back and forth pattern you have with 00:50:756 (3) - , which is the strong note, so starting the new pattern on (3) instead makes it go better with what you're trying to do. If you do, apply to later kiais

00:53:499 (2) – The flow at the start is just a bit too drastic. Try a different angle like: http://puu.sh/ojN82/1172fbefb4.jpg

01:03:442 (2) – clap hitsound out of nowhere

01:07:299 (1,1,2,3,4,5) – The pacing of the map doesn't match the pacing of the song. You give resolution to the chorus with this spinner, and then the song goes on this low intensity rift that you don't map at 00:00:013 - . But then you have a note at 01:08:585 – which is where I expected the spinner to end, and the jump at (3,4) is stronger than the jump you used to end the chorus. I don't see how the song is strong enough to support this. I think I'd rather see a break in the map until around 01:18:185 (1) - . After testing, I think you should keep 01:17:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – but make the DS here smaller to go with the smaller DS in the next section.

01:24:870 (6,1) – Similar issue I had with 00:25:556 (5,6) - . I'll be more direct and say I think the spacing is too low, and so the other design you had fits more appropriately. This happens in a few other places that I won't mention.

01:29:156 (1,2,3,4,1) – In the first measure, you establish a left-right kind of flow with each new beat. Since 01:30:527 (1) – is different in that it is a strong note on the downbeat and the pitch of the singer gets higher, consider breaking away from this pattern by doing more circular flow like: http://puu.sh/okINh/ae725e7e9d.jpg

01:40:642 (3,4) – Being so intense here and being so weak at 01:41:499 (2,1) – don't work well together imo.

01:51:613 (3,4) – The (4) note in the song is kind of strong, but the spacing between these is pretty weak. The blanket is not wroth this oddity in the spacing.

01:54:528 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – I'm going to be mentioning pacing here and later on. I like this video that explains some ideas of pacing, so give it a watch if you're interested. Ok, so there are two sections of music in this mentioned part of the map. They are not separated in the map by a group that provides rest. This makes it feel like one big jump spam. What you did with the spacing and slider at 00:49:899 (8,9) – made the next section feel a lot more worthy of the jumps you gave it.
02:17:842 (9,10,1,2) - ^ similar

02:04:813 (4,5) – The vocals get a little intense here, and your pacing could be a little stronger here, so try making these four circles instead.

02:13:727 (5,7) – Curve the (7) slider more to go blanket this better. Also, be careful that auto stack doesn't mess up your blanket.

02:15:613 (5,2) – This overlap is not ideal
02:16:127 (2,2) - ^
02:08:927 (1,3) – The overlaps on the heads are fine, but the overlaps on the ends look a bit odd.

02:23:670 (1,2,3,4,1) – doing something like this seems nicer: http://puu.sh/ojOnv/a4b96200e0.jpg

Warning: long, subjective, candid rant approaching!

02:29:499 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – I wanted to be more critical of this, but there is a strong emotional intensity that makes a strong jump section like this feel good. The map is a little strong compared to some other strong parts of song, so that's one reason I want to encourage you to highlight a few more downbeats in the first kiai like at 00:48:699 (1) – though there are others I didn't mention.
Now, I do want to preserve the strong jumps in this section like 02:30:699 (3,1) - , so I actually think this spacing is fine. What you need, though, are more moments of rest both locally and in general. So first divide up this part into the four measures at 02:29:499 (1) - , 02:30:870 (1) - , 02:32:242 (1) - , and 02:33:613 (1) - . You do a good job of making 02:33:613 (1) – stronger than the last measure, but how do the other measure relate to each other? Well, the first and second measures are doing the same thing that third and fourth are, and you reflect this nicely with the big jump at 02:30:699 (3,1) – to make the second measure stronger. So how do the second and third measure relate to each other? I would argue that the third measure lowers in intensity, and so the average spacing between 02:32:242 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) – should be less than the average spacing between 02:30:870 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - . This gives you a slight rest to let the player recoup and get ready for the final set of jumps at 02:33:613 (1) - , which puts more of the focus on these later jumps without even changing the spacing of the later jumps. So try making 02:33:099 (1,2,3) – lower spacing in particular. In addition, the slider at 02:30:870 (1) – might be better as two circles since this would then be a stronger measure, which reinforces that the slider at 02:32:242 (1) – will be for a rest section.
For a more local perspective within a single measure, I think you have the right idea by making the offbeats/red ticks lower in spacing like at 02:32:756 (2) - , however sometimes like at 02:32:756 (2) – you can try reducing the spacing into it a bit more to like 2.00x since it might still be not enough rest to emphasize the white ticks. I can see an argument for increasing the spacing at 02:32:070 (3) – , but I think you add a bit too much spacing here and so there's not that much emphasis on the downbeat. I would take a look at some of galvenize's maps like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/234646 because he does a good job of finding ways to make low spacing in a mostly jump map (though sometimes he does it to a fault).

02:33:613 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – I'll end this rant with a flow comment. This last measure has a few drums which makes it feel slightly different than the last three measures. So one way to reflect this difference is to use a more unique flow for this measure instead of the same V type flow like 02:33:099 (1,2,3) - . So first make 02:34:299 (2) – the NC instead of 02:34:127 (1) – and delete the NC at 02:34:642 (1) - . This goes with the drum a bit more and will help you divide the pattern into two groups of four with an additional ending note instead of three groups of three. Now you can experiment with four object patterns like squares. I'll let you decide about that, but if you want a suggestion: 02:33:613 (1) - http://puu.sh/ojYMv/61f5128c0b.jpg , http://puu.sh/ojYNb/d2d9878774.jpg,
http://puu.sh/ojYPG/9f569fc0ab.jpg

That's it from me. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Asfand

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here for M4M. Hope this helps!

So I went pretty deep in this mod, so I don't expect you to agree with all these suggestions. I am trying to throw my style into yours and so I expect for us to have different perspectives, but that's part of the point of modding. Take what is useful to what you are already doing out of this mod and leave the rest.

[Extra]

I modded before your update. It doesn't look like there's much that would change in my mod, but if there is I apologize.

00:21:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – Consider this rhythm to go more with the drums: http://puu.sh/ojMQJ/dafb65bfa9.jpg
I looked at this, but I really like the piano sound on the slider 3 to compliment all the other sliders I made on the same sound. I see that it ends on quite a strong drum thing, but I really like the way the slider sounds on those piano notes. I've also kept these very consistent

00:27:099 (5,6) – This felt better than 00:25:556 (5,6) - . Either way, I think you should be more consistent with your visuals here. (comment below related)
I agree that the other part seems better to play, but I think as it is right now it looks fine (with easy mod you can see the double forming with 00:26:413 (2) - ,so I don't think its ugly looking) I've played it quite a few times and I don't really think it makes a major difference

00:26:927 (4,5,6) - With that said, I don't really like this flow. Try giving more of an angle into (6) to give it more emphasis. http://puu.sh/ojNK3/c328fa3fe9.jpg
I think 6 is emphasized really well here, it is placed at an awkward place to hit (bottom of the screen) and the movement changes drastically in the other direction. I really don't see the issue with the flow though

00:30:356 (2,4) – This overlap doesn't look great
Agreed, fixed the combo

00:34:299 (7) – move NC here?
aight

00:36:013 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) – Oh, so you are following the drums here. Why didn't you follow the drums at 00:34:299 (7,1,2,3) - ? If you don't start on the drums here, going with the drums later feels odd.
messed up the slider end 7, it should have ended on the blue tick. It should follow it now

00:45:270 (1,2,3,4) – There could be a bigger spacing somewhere in here to start off the kiai stronger. Instinctively I would put it on (1), but I can respect you want this to go with the SV change. If so, then maybe put a big spacing into (2). I have the same quarrels with the flow into (4) as 00:27:099 (5,6) – because the linear anti-flow feels odd.
I want to keep the slider, I moved the 2 to make it harder to hit and give it more emphasis also, think its better. I moved the 2 so that the flow is circular rather than linear also as a result.


00:48:699 (1) – I think this is a strong note, so consider increasing the DS into it. This would mean unstacking 00:48:356 (4,1) -
Although now that I think about it, you might want to rotate 00:48:356 (4) – a bit so the flow from (3) is a little smoother: http://puu.sh/ojVLS/9dfa651db7.jpg
the sliders 3 and 4 are done on purpose its to slow down and restart the movement coming into the jump section.
I agree on the jump section being a bit weird, fixed


00:50:413 (1,2) – Consider making this a ½ slider instead. The benefit of doing this would be to start this stack/back and forth pattern you have with 00:50:756 (3) - , which is the strong note, so starting the new pattern on (3) instead makes it go better with what you're trying to do. If you do, apply to later kiais
I really like how this goes with the vocals, and this was what made my map special two years ago so I'm keeping it for those two reasons. Not a bad suggestion though

00:53:499 (2) – The flow at the start is just a bit too drastic. Try a different angle like: http://puu.sh/ojN82/1172fbefb4.jpg
Its meant to be that way, the player won't follow the slider anyway, they will just hold it for .2 of a second. Its just that way to fit the song-

01:03:442 (2) – clap hitsound out of nowhere
yeah hitsounding is a wip :p

01:07:299 (1,1,2,3,4,5) – The pacing of the map doesn't match the pacing of the song. You give resolution to the chorus with this spinner, and then the song goes on this low intensity rift that you don't map at 00:00:013 - . But then you have a note at 01:08:585 – which is where I expected the spinner to end, and the jump at (3,4) is stronger than the jump you used to end the chorus. I don't see how the song is strong enough to support this. I think I'd rather see a break in the map until around 01:18:185 (1) - . After testing, I think you should keep 01:17:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – but make the DS here smaller to go with the smaller DS in the next section.
yeah, I'm not sure what to do here because my sliders are too long(hue) I really want the jump back on every 01:09:099 (4,5) - 01:10:470 (4,5) - etc etc on the same sound. I don't really see the spacing as a huge issue? This section is a lot easier to combo than the kiai


01:24:870 (6,1) – Similar issue I had with 00:25:556 (5,6) - . I'll be more direct and say I think the spacing is too low, and so the other design you had fits more appropriately. This happens in a few other places that I won't mention.

01:29:156 (1,2,3,4,1) – In the first measure, you establish a left-right kind of flow with each new beat. Since 01:30:527 (1) – is different in that it is a strong note on the downbeat and the pitch of the singer gets higher, consider breaking away from this pattern by doing more circular flow like: http://puu.sh/okINh/ae725e7e9d.jpg
I see what you mean here, but I think I put a lot more emphasis on 1 having it where it is right now, the flow direction changes and its at the bottom of the screen(awkward to hit) so its emphasized well enough. having the section go left and right was to compliment the vocals of the song.01:31:213 (3) - it goes the other way again. until it breaks in the next combos when the vocal changes

01:40:642 (3,4) – Being so intense here and being so weak at 01:41:499 (2,1) – don't work well together imo.
I think it works very well :s. It also prepares you for the next section

01:51:613 (3,4) – The (4) note in the song is kind of strong, but the spacing between these is pretty weak. The blanket is not wroth this oddity in the spacing.
Alright

01:54:528 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – I'm going to be mentioning pacing here and later on. I like this video that explains some ideas of pacing, so give it a watch if you're interested. Ok, so there are two sections of music in this mentioned part of the map. They are not separated in the map by a group that provides rest. This makes it feel like one big jump spam. What you did with the spacing and slider at 00:49:899 (8,9) – made the next section feel a lot more worthy of the jumps you gave it.
02:17:842 (9,10,1,2) - ^ similar
there are two sections of rest in both those examples. The first section has jumps with low spacing before they increase. The second section restarts the movement the same way 00:48:013 (3,4) - does it and provides you with free movement into the second jump section.
Actually looking back the first one doesn't restart the movement. but it still provides rest before the big jumps, unsure about what to do here. It is fine as is I think


02:04:813 (4,5) – The vocals get a little intense here, and your pacing could be a little stronger here, so try making these four circles instead.
02:04:813 (4,5) - similar to the point above, I want to provide some rest before the intense jump section

02:13:727 (5,7) – Curve the (7) slider more to go blanket this better. Also, be careful that auto stack doesn't mess up your blanket.
Aight

02:15:613 (5,2) – This overlap is not ideal
02:16:127 (2,2) - ^
02:08:927 (1,3) – The overlaps on the heads are fine, but the overlaps on the ends look a bit odd.
Fixed a few of these

02:23:670 (1,2,3,4,1) – doing something like this seems nicer: http://puu.sh/ojOnv/a4b96200e0.jpg
agree

Warning: long, subjective, candid rant approaching!

02:29:499 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – I wanted to be more critical of this, but there is a strong emotional intensity that makes a strong jump section like this feel good. The map is a little strong compared to some other strong parts of song, so that's one reason I want to encourage you to highlight a few more downbeats in the first kiai like at 00:48:699 (1) – though there are others I didn't mention.
Now, I do want to preserve the strong jumps in this section like 02:30:699 (3,1) - , so I actually think this spacing is fine. What you need, though, are more moments of rest both locally and in general. So first divide up this part into the four measures at 02:29:499 (1) - , 02:30:870 (1) - , 02:32:242 (1) - , and 02:33:613 (1) - . You do a good job of making 02:33:613 (1) – stronger than the last measure, but how do the other measure relate to each other? Well, the first and second measures are doing the same thing that third and fourth are, and you reflect this nicely with the big jump at 02:30:699 (3,1) – to make the second measure stronger. So how do the second and third measure relate to each other? I would argue that the third measure lowers in intensity, and so the average spacing between 02:32:242 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) – should be less than the average spacing between 02:30:870 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - . This gives you a slight rest to let the player recoup and get ready for the final set of jumps at 02:33:613 (1) - , which puts more of the focus on these later jumps without even changing the spacing of the later jumps. So try making 02:33:099 (1,2,3) – lower spacing in particular. In addition, the slider at 02:30:870 (1) – might be better as two circles since this would then be a stronger measure, which reinforces that the slider at 02:32:242 (1) – will be for a rest section.
For a more local perspective within a single measure, I think you have the right idea by making the offbeats/red ticks lower in spacing like at 02:32:756 (2) - , however sometimes like at 02:32:756 (2) – you can try reducing the spacing into it a bit more to like 2.00x since it might still be not enough rest to emphasize the white ticks. I can see an argument for increasing the spacing at 02:32:070 (3) – , but I think you add a bit too much spacing here and so there's not that much emphasis on the downbeat. I would take a look at some of galvenize's maps like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/234646 because he does a good job of finding ways to make low spacing in a mostly jump map (though sometimes he does it to a fault).

02:33:613 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – I'll end this rant with a flow comment. This last measure has a few drums which makes it feel slightly different than the last three measures. So one way to reflect this difference is to use a more unique flow for this measure instead of the same V type flow like 02:33:099 (1,2,3) - . So first make 02:34:299 (2) – the NC instead of 02:34:127 (1) – and delete the NC at 02:34:642 (1) - . This goes with the drum a bit more and will help you divide the pattern into two groups of four with an additional ending note instead of three groups of three. Now you can experiment with four object patterns like squares. I'll let you decide about that, but if you want a suggestion: 02:33:613 (1) - http://puu.sh/ojYMv/61f5128c0b.jpg , http://puu.sh/ojYNb/d2d9878774.jpg,
http://puu.sh/ojYPG/9f569fc0ab.jpg

I will look into this part again with this in mind, I'm a bit unsure of what I did here and I see some mistakes I've done that you pointed out. I must have done this while I was stupid tired. Ill comeback to this comment if you ever check back to this thread

That's it from me. Good luck!
Thanks! Very helpful! I'll get around to doing your difficulty sometime this weekend. :)
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2016-07-02 02.11 brdzxh: ok
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2016-07-02 02.12 brdzxh: :d
2016-07-02 02.12 brdzxh: kan si de jeg synes om du vil
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2016-07-02 02.12 regN: sure
2016-07-02 02.12 brdzxh: 00:19:385 (2) -
2016-07-02 02.12 brdzxh: sett denne litt lengre opp
2016-07-02 02.12 brdzxh: var litt nasty
2016-07-02 02.13 brdzxh: :c
2016-07-02 02.13 brdzxh: sånn x140 y232
2016-07-02 02.13 brdzxh: er sikkert greit
2016-07-02 02.13 regN: den skal være ille
2016-07-02 02.13 brdzxh: eller rundt der
2016-07-02 02.13 regN: 00:19:556 (3) - slik at denne blir smooth og relieving å hitte
2016-07-02 02.14 brdzxh: jeg synes at flowen er fin
2016-07-02 02.14 brdzxh: uansett
2016-07-02 02.14 brdzxh: men tanke på at den er 6
2016-07-02 02.14 brdzxh: *
2016-07-02 02.14 regN: 00:19:385 (2) - stress -> 00:19:556 (3) - relief gir bra feel til lyrics og god pressure på clap
2016-07-02 02.14 regN: +flow change
2016-07-02 02.14 regN: det er jo good
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: ser bare litt ekkelt ut
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: liker ikke slike stacks
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: >_>
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: men det er opp til deg
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: :d
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: 00:22:985 (4,5,6,7,1) -
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: er heller ikke fan av dette
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: men streamen oppe på slideren
2016-07-02 02.15 brdzxh: med*
2016-07-02 02.16 regN: det er vel stylistic
2016-07-02 02.16 regN: men passer bra med flow change på 1
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: latså
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: altså
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: jeg ser hva du ser på
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: jeg vet ikke helt hvordan jeg skal forklare den
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: det
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: men det ser litt rart ut
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: imop
2016-07-02 02.17 brdzxh: imo
2016-07-02 02.18 brdzxh: du kan jo også flytte notene rundt for å få det slik en vil
2016-07-02 02.18 regN: ye det du sier gir mening
2016-07-02 02.19 regN: men jeg syntes det ser fint ut
2016-07-02 02.19 brdzxh: jeg syntes det motsatte :p
2016-07-02 02.19 regN: så det går mer under bare personlig mening
2016-07-02 02.19 brdzxh: det ble litt back and forth
2016-07-02 02.19 regN: liksom jeg gjør det mye
2016-07-02 02.19 brdzxh: greit nok, bare pass på at det ikke blir for random/sudden
2016-07-02 02.20 regN: føles det randomt ut da?
2016-07-02 02.20 brdzxh: ikke nødvendigvis
2016-07-02 02.20 brdzxh: bare litt
2016-07-02 02.20 brdzxh: "kleint"
2016-07-02 02.20 brdzxh: :p
2016-07-02 02.20 regN: oh de jumpsa her
2016-07-02 02.20 regN: 00:50:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
2016-07-02 02.20 brdzxh: de er ok
2016-07-02 02.21 brdzxh: om du kan evt flytte denne
2016-07-02 02.21 brdzxh: 00:27:099 (5) -
2016-07-02 02.21 regN: jeg valgte å highligte de
2016-07-02 02.21 brdzxh: bare for visibility-hetens skyld
2016-07-02 02.21 regN: har triplet her
2016-07-02 02.21 regN: http://puu.sh/pNbX2/fc0785d55d.jpg
2016-07-02 02.21 brdzxh: hmm
2016-07-02 02.21 brdzxh: alright
2016-07-02 02.22 brdzxh: la bare merke til det når jeg spilte
2016-07-02 02.22 brdzxh: det så litt rart ut
2016-07-02 02.22 regN: jeg har remappet denne så mange ganger
2016-07-02 02.22 regN: er utrolig
2016-07-02 02.22 brdzxh: 2014
2016-07-02 02.22 brdzxh: PepeRIP
2016-07-02 02.23 brdzxh: man blir bedre over tid
2016-07-02 02.23 regN: joa
2016-07-02 02.23 brdzxh: 00:42:956 (4) -
2016-07-02 02.23 regN: men jeg prøver å bevare det jeg hadde for 2 år siden
2016-07-02 02.23 brdzxh: move denne 2 hakk ned
2016-07-02 02.23 brdzxh: elns
2016-07-02 02.23 brdzxh: ser den
2016-07-02 02.24 regN: done
2016-07-02 02.24 regN: har mange back and forth patterns for å highlighte ett pattern
2016-07-02 02.24 brdzxh: 00:53:499 (2) -
2016-07-02 02.24 brdzxh: yea
2016-07-02 02.24 regN: 00:50:413 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
2016-07-02 02.24 regN: denne liksom
2016-07-02 02.24 brdzxh: flytt starten litt opp
2016-07-02 02.24 brdzxh: de er fine
2016-07-02 02.24 brdzxh: dw
2016-07-02 02.25 brdzxh: var gøy å spille dem
2016-07-02 02.25 brdzxh: :p
2016-07-02 02.25 regN: det er hva som har overlevd siden første utkast
2016-07-02 02.25 brdzxh: http://puu.sh/pNc91/8defd1b997.jpg
2016-07-02 02.25 brdzxh: lag den noe sånn som dette
2016-07-02 02.26 brdzxh: holdt på å misreade den slideren når jeg spilte
2016-07-02 02.27 regN: really
2016-07-02 02.27 regN: tror den er unbreakable
2016-07-02 02.27 regN: liksom combo wise
2016-07-02 02.27 regN: den ser jævlig slick ut
2016-07-02 02.28 brdzxh: confusa meg litt
2016-07-02 02.28 brdzxh: når jeg spilte
2016-07-02 02.28 brdzxh: men det var ikke ett direkte problem
2016-07-02 02.29 brdzxh: 00:56:242 (1,2) -
2016-07-02 02.29 brdzxh: ville ha mappet dette
2016-07-02 02.29 brdzxh: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5518126
2016-07-02 02.29 brdzxh: noe some de
2016-07-02 02.30 regN: det gir mening
2016-07-02 02.30 regN: hmm
2016-07-02 02.30 regN: kanskje jeg liker det du gjorde bedre
2016-07-02 02.30 regN: jeg hadde som et slow down parti
2016-07-02 02.30 regN: fra den intense delen
2016-07-02 02.31 brdzxh: :p
2016-07-02 02.31 regN: siden denne er litt mindre intens
2016-07-02 02.31 regN: 00:46:470 (1,2,3) -
2016-07-02 02.31 regN: siden jeg mappet det slikt her
2016-07-02 02.31 brdzxh: ye
2016-07-02 02.32 regN: skal se om jeg kan endre til noe jeg liker bedre her
2016-07-02 02.32 regN: bokmerker den
2016-07-02 02.32 brdzxh: sure
2016-07-02 02.32 brdzxh: 00:50:070 (9) -
2016-07-02 02.32 brdzxh: trenger denne å være litt bulky
2016-07-02 02.32 brdzxh: me tanke på at de meste andre er nokså straight
2016-07-02 02.32 brdzxh: eller single curved
2016-07-02 02.33 regN: den breaker flow + slow down for neste jump section
2016-07-02 02.33 brdzxh: ait
2016-07-02 02.33 regN: ganske viktig å få slowet der
2016-07-02 02.34 brdzxh: greit
2016-07-02 02.34 brdzxh: 01:18:185 (1) -
2016-07-02 02.35 brdzxh: liker enda ikke denne stream - slider stacken
2016-07-02 02.35 brdzxh: Xd
2016-07-02 02.35 regN: looks soo good
2016-07-02 02.35 brdzxh: >.<
2016-07-02 02.37 brdzxh: 01:39:785 (1,2,3,4,1) -
2016-07-02 02.37 brdzxh: hmm
2016-07-02 02.38 brdzxh: høres ut som at kunne ha vært en triple
2016-07-02 02.38 brdzxh: her
2016-07-02 02.38 brdzxh: istede for en 5-stream
2016-07-02 02.38 regN: 01:40:042 -
2016-07-02 02.38 regN: er en lyd her
2016-07-02 02.38 brdzxh: aity
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: 02:06:699 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) -
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: vet ikke helt
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: altså
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: det var greit
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: men vet ikke om det player
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: bra
2016-07-02 02.40 brdzxh: for alle
2016-07-02 02.41 regN: det gir mening for meg ihvertfall
2016-07-02 02.41 regN: siden det slower ned
2016-07-02 02.42 regN: pretty hard to sliderbrek også
2016-07-02 02.42 brdzxh: ye
2016-07-02 02.42 brdzxh: men tenkte streamen
2016-07-02 02.42 brdzxh: egentlig da
2016-07-02 02.43 regN: oh
2016-07-02 02.43 regN: straight lines
2016-07-02 02.43 brdzxh: slider var nå grei
2016-07-02 02.43 brdzxh: 02:31:727 (1,2,3) -
2016-07-02 02.43 brdzxh: denne trenger nå ikke å være across screen
2016-07-02 02.43 brdzxh: sjønner at det er build up
2016-07-02 02.44 brdzxh: men den blir kinda interrupted av den neste slideren
2016-07-02 02.44 brdzxh: så blir spacinga litt mindre igjen
2016-07-02 02.44 regN: 02:31:213 (1,2,3) - den og 02:31:727 (1,2,3) - er samme lyd
2016-07-02 02.44 regN: bare sterkere andre gangen
2016-07-02 02.44 regN: så same pattern
2016-07-02 02.44 regN: bare longer
2016-07-02 02.44 brdzxh: greit
2016-07-02 02.45 brdzxh: synes at jumpsa var litt overdrevne nå
2016-07-02 02.45 brdzxh: men det går sikkert greit
2016-07-02 02.46 regN: ye kan være jeg nerfer dem
2016-07-02 02.46 regN: de var bare sånn for 2 år siden
2016-07-02 02.46 brdzxh: sånn overall så var det greit
2016-07-02 02.46 regN: at siste del var veldig jumpy
2016-07-02 02.46 brdzxh: men noen sliders føltest litt awkward
2016-07-02 02.46 regN: hm
2016-07-02 02.47 brdzxh: og det med streams -> sliders
2016-07-02 02.47 brdzxh: blir litt sudden back and forth
2016-07-02 02.47 brdzxh: men det er opp til deg om du vil beholde dem
2016-07-02 02.48 regN: så lenge det ikke er noe veldig unrankable
2016-07-02 02.48 regN: så vil jeg bare ranke denne
2016-07-02 02.48 regN: for å ha klart det og
2016-07-02 02.48 brdzxh: også
2016-07-02 02.48 brdzxh: skru ned volumet litt
2016-07-02 02.48 brdzxh: i det mindre "epic" delene
2016-07-02 02.48 regN: btw
2016-07-02 02.48 brdzxh: de
2016-07-02 02.48 regN: bare å poste log på thread
2016-07-02 02.49 brdzxh: ya
2016-07-02 02.49 brdzxh: will do
2016-07-02 02.49 regN: så kdsur jeg dette
2016-07-02 02.49 regN: ah
2016-07-02 02.49 regN: true
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I'll be discontinuing my GD if this will never see being qualified...
Kite
Where'd the old Extra diff go? It was so much fun to play compared to the new one, you should include it in the set as an additional difficulty
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