that 8 stars difficulty, notes even go out of range lol
Thanks!ZinaMarina wrote:
Well met, comrade! (From m4m)
Generalwill change
- Why so quiet? I can't hear hitsounds
EasyУдачи тебе с этим // Good luck
01:31:727 (2) circle on red tick. It's difficult to read on easy. Maybe make smth like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124392 ? follow vocal
01:33:956 (1,2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124421 sounds better i think vocal
02:04:299 (6,1) Again red ticks. Make slider from 02:04:470 to 02:05:156 I don't see the issue slider before ends on red
02:29:499 (1,2,3,1,2,3) quite difficult for a beginner. Try https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3124465 and same slider on 02:32:242 without circles (some rest before spinner) Agree will change
Wouldn't it be Negoto as the artist, and the song Charon (DJ SEVEN Remix)?caren_sk wrote:
fix→DJ SEVEN aka sebeneP
add tag →Negoto
osu! need more Negoto...
Quiesce wrote:
Wouldn't it be Negoto as the artist, and the song Charon (DJ SEVEN Remix)?caren_sk wrote:
fix→DJ SEVEN aka sebeneP
add tag →Negoto
osu! need more Negoto...
Since the melody and harmonies are derived from Negoto - Charon, it only seems fitting.Asfand wrote:
I actually have no idea what to call this. I copied the name from DJ SEVEN's soudcloud. https://soundcloud.com/therhythmrights/ ... -pnb-refix
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02:00 regN: link the ones
02:00 regN: here
02:00 Nao Tomori: 00:42:527 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -
02:00 Nao Tomori: i can't really hear it
02:01 Nao Tomori: 00:53:499 (2) - this is weird
02:01 regN: I hear all of them
02:01 Nao Tomori: hm
02:01 Nao Tomori: it isnt terribly overmapped but might raise some eyebrows
02:02 Nao Tomori: 01:40:385 (2) - for this part
02:02 Nao Tomori: you can use a slow 1/2 slider instead
02:02 Nao Tomori: it'll fit better imo
02:03 Nao Tomori: 01:40:385 - i think there's a note here
02:03 regN: I want to have a press on every major note
02:03 regN: err
02:03 regN: sound
02:03 Nao Tomori: i mean you make 2 into a 1/2 slider
02:03 Nao Tomori: instead of of a 1/4 repeat slider
02:03 Nao Tomori: it's the same length
02:03 regN: 01:40:470 - this sound though
02:04 Nao Tomori: you aren't pressing the repeat slider anyway
02:04 regN: should I just skip it you mean?
02:04 Nao Tomori: trust me it looks super weird while playing
02:04 Nao Tomori: cuz the sound is super quiet
02:04 Nao Tomori: it mostly follows the guitar right
02:04 Nao Tomori: so the guitar doesnt have much a sound on the white tick
02:05 regN: aight
02:05 regN: Ill do that
02:05 Nao Tomori: 01:59:327 (2) - these dont look good man
02:05 Nao Tomori: 02:07:556 (1) - this is borderline unrankable
02:05 regN: they fit the sound so well
02:06 Nao Tomori: i guess..
02:06 Nao Tomori: definitely change v
02:06 Nao Tomori: 02:07:556 (1) -
02:06 regN: I did
02:06 regN: http://puu.sh/ogqz1/35b248fa5f.jpg
02:06 Nao Tomori: ok tht is better
02:07 Nao Tomori: but i think you should make the curve go out the bottom more
02:07 Nao Tomori: since thats where the cursor is moving
02:10 regN: aight think I fixed it
Thanks! Very helpful! I'll get around to doing your difficulty sometime this weekend.pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here for M4M. Hope this helps!
So I went pretty deep in this mod, so I don't expect you to agree with all these suggestions. I am trying to throw my style into yours and so I expect for us to have different perspectives, but that's part of the point of modding. Take what is useful to what you are already doing out of this mod and leave the rest.
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I modded before your update. It doesn't look like there's much that would change in my mod, but if there is I apologize.
00:21:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – Consider this rhythm to go more with the drums: http://puu.sh/ojMQJ/dafb65bfa9.jpg
I looked at this, but I really like the piano sound on the slider 3 to compliment all the other sliders I made on the same sound. I see that it ends on quite a strong drum thing, but I really like the way the slider sounds on those piano notes. I've also kept these very consistent
00:27:099 (5,6) – This felt better than 00:25:556 (5,6) - . Either way, I think you should be more consistent with your visuals here. (comment below related)
I agree that the other part seems better to play, but I think as it is right now it looks fine (with easy mod you can see the double forming with 00:26:413 (2) - ,so I don't think its ugly looking) I've played it quite a few times and I don't really think it makes a major difference
00:26:927 (4,5,6) - With that said, I don't really like this flow. Try giving more of an angle into (6) to give it more emphasis. http://puu.sh/ojNK3/c328fa3fe9.jpg
I think 6 is emphasized really well here, it is placed at an awkward place to hit (bottom of the screen) and the movement changes drastically in the other direction. I really don't see the issue with the flow though
00:30:356 (2,4) – This overlap doesn't look great
Agreed, fixed the combo
00:34:299 (7) – move NC here?
aight
00:36:013 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) – Oh, so you are following the drums here. Why didn't you follow the drums at 00:34:299 (7,1,2,3) - ? If you don't start on the drums here, going with the drums later feels odd.
messed up the slider end 7, it should have ended on the blue tick. It should follow it now
00:45:270 (1,2,3,4) – There could be a bigger spacing somewhere in here to start off the kiai stronger. Instinctively I would put it on (1), but I can respect you want this to go with the SV change. If so, then maybe put a big spacing into (2). I have the same quarrels with the flow into (4) as 00:27:099 (5,6) – because the linear anti-flow feels odd.
I want to keep the slider, I moved the 2 to make it harder to hit and give it more emphasis also, think its better. I moved the 2 so that the flow is circular rather than linear also as a result.
00:48:699 (1) – I think this is a strong note, so consider increasing the DS into it. This would mean unstacking 00:48:356 (4,1) -
Although now that I think about it, you might want to rotate 00:48:356 (4) – a bit so the flow from (3) is a little smoother: http://puu.sh/ojVLS/9dfa651db7.jpg
the sliders 3 and 4 are done on purpose its to slow down and restart the movement coming into the jump section.
I agree on the jump section being a bit weird, fixed
00:50:413 (1,2) – Consider making this a ½ slider instead. The benefit of doing this would be to start this stack/back and forth pattern you have with 00:50:756 (3) - , which is the strong note, so starting the new pattern on (3) instead makes it go better with what you're trying to do. If you do, apply to later kiais
I really like how this goes with the vocals, and this was what made my map special two years ago so I'm keeping it for those two reasons. Not a bad suggestion though
00:53:499 (2) – The flow at the start is just a bit too drastic. Try a different angle like: http://puu.sh/ojN82/1172fbefb4.jpg
Its meant to be that way, the player won't follow the slider anyway, they will just hold it for .2 of a second. Its just that way to fit the song-
01:03:442 (2) – clap hitsound out of nowhere
yeah hitsounding is a wip :p
01:07:299 (1,1,2,3,4,5) – The pacing of the map doesn't match the pacing of the song. You give resolution to the chorus with this spinner, and then the song goes on this low intensity rift that you don't map at 00:00:013 - . But then you have a note at 01:08:585 – which is where I expected the spinner to end, and the jump at (3,4) is stronger than the jump you used to end the chorus. I don't see how the song is strong enough to support this. I think I'd rather see a break in the map until around 01:18:185 (1) - . After testing, I think you should keep 01:17:499 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – but make the DS here smaller to go with the smaller DS in the next section.
yeah, I'm not sure what to do here because my sliders are too long(hue) I really want the jump back on every 01:09:099 (4,5) - 01:10:470 (4,5) - etc etc on the same sound. I don't really see the spacing as a huge issue? This section is a lot easier to combo than the kiai
01:24:870 (6,1) – Similar issue I had with 00:25:556 (5,6) - . I'll be more direct and say I think the spacing is too low, and so the other design you had fits more appropriately. This happens in a few other places that I won't mention.
01:29:156 (1,2,3,4,1) – In the first measure, you establish a left-right kind of flow with each new beat. Since 01:30:527 (1) – is different in that it is a strong note on the downbeat and the pitch of the singer gets higher, consider breaking away from this pattern by doing more circular flow like: http://puu.sh/okINh/ae725e7e9d.jpg
I see what you mean here, but I think I put a lot more emphasis on 1 having it where it is right now, the flow direction changes and its at the bottom of the screen(awkward to hit) so its emphasized well enough. having the section go left and right was to compliment the vocals of the song.01:31:213 (3) - it goes the other way again. until it breaks in the next combos when the vocal changes
01:40:642 (3,4) – Being so intense here and being so weak at 01:41:499 (2,1) – don't work well together imo.
I think it works very well :s. It also prepares you for the next section
01:51:613 (3,4) – The (4) note in the song is kind of strong, but the spacing between these is pretty weak. The blanket is not wroth this oddity in the spacing.
Alright
01:54:528 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – I'm going to be mentioning pacing here and later on. I like this video that explains some ideas of pacing, so give it a watch if you're interested. Ok, so there are two sections of music in this mentioned part of the map. They are not separated in the map by a group that provides rest. This makes it feel like one big jump spam. What you did with the spacing and slider at 00:49:899 (8,9) – made the next section feel a lot more worthy of the jumps you gave it.
02:17:842 (9,10,1,2) - ^ similar
there are two sections of rest in both those examples. The first section has jumps with low spacing before they increase. The second section restarts the movement the same way 00:48:013 (3,4) - does it and provides you with free movement into the second jump section.
Actually looking back the first one doesn't restart the movement. but it still provides rest before the big jumps, unsure about what to do here. It is fine as is I think
02:04:813 (4,5) – The vocals get a little intense here, and your pacing could be a little stronger here, so try making these four circles instead.
02:04:813 (4,5) - similar to the point above, I want to provide some rest before the intense jump section
02:13:727 (5,7) – Curve the (7) slider more to go blanket this better. Also, be careful that auto stack doesn't mess up your blanket.
Aight
02:15:613 (5,2) – This overlap is not ideal
02:16:127 (2,2) - ^
02:08:927 (1,3) – The overlaps on the heads are fine, but the overlaps on the ends look a bit odd.
Fixed a few of these
02:23:670 (1,2,3,4,1) – doing something like this seems nicer: http://puu.sh/ojOnv/a4b96200e0.jpg
agree
Warning: long, subjective, candid rant approaching!
02:29:499 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – I wanted to be more critical of this, but there is a strong emotional intensity that makes a strong jump section like this feel good. The map is a little strong compared to some other strong parts of song, so that's one reason I want to encourage you to highlight a few more downbeats in the first kiai like at 00:48:699 (1) – though there are others I didn't mention.
Now, I do want to preserve the strong jumps in this section like 02:30:699 (3,1) - , so I actually think this spacing is fine. What you need, though, are more moments of rest both locally and in general. So first divide up this part into the four measures at 02:29:499 (1) - , 02:30:870 (1) - , 02:32:242 (1) - , and 02:33:613 (1) - . You do a good job of making 02:33:613 (1) – stronger than the last measure, but how do the other measure relate to each other? Well, the first and second measures are doing the same thing that third and fourth are, and you reflect this nicely with the big jump at 02:30:699 (3,1) – to make the second measure stronger. So how do the second and third measure relate to each other? I would argue that the third measure lowers in intensity, and so the average spacing between 02:32:242 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) – should be less than the average spacing between 02:30:870 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - . This gives you a slight rest to let the player recoup and get ready for the final set of jumps at 02:33:613 (1) - , which puts more of the focus on these later jumps without even changing the spacing of the later jumps. So try making 02:33:099 (1,2,3) – lower spacing in particular. In addition, the slider at 02:30:870 (1) – might be better as two circles since this would then be a stronger measure, which reinforces that the slider at 02:32:242 (1) – will be for a rest section.
For a more local perspective within a single measure, I think you have the right idea by making the offbeats/red ticks lower in spacing like at 02:32:756 (2) - , however sometimes like at 02:32:756 (2) – you can try reducing the spacing into it a bit more to like 2.00x since it might still be not enough rest to emphasize the white ticks. I can see an argument for increasing the spacing at 02:32:070 (3) – , but I think you add a bit too much spacing here and so there's not that much emphasis on the downbeat. I would take a look at some of galvenize's maps like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/234646 because he does a good job of finding ways to make low spacing in a mostly jump map (though sometimes he does it to a fault).
02:33:613 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – I'll end this rant with a flow comment. This last measure has a few drums which makes it feel slightly different than the last three measures. So one way to reflect this difference is to use a more unique flow for this measure instead of the same V type flow like 02:33:099 (1,2,3) - . So first make 02:34:299 (2) – the NC instead of 02:34:127 (1) – and delete the NC at 02:34:642 (1) - . This goes with the drum a bit more and will help you divide the pattern into two groups of four with an additional ending note instead of three groups of three. Now you can experiment with four object patterns like squares. I'll let you decide about that, but if you want a suggestion: 02:33:613 (1) - http://puu.sh/ojYMv/61f5128c0b.jpg , http://puu.sh/ojYNb/d2d9878774.jpg,
http://puu.sh/ojYPG/9f569fc0ab.jpg
I will look into this part again with this in mind, I'm a bit unsure of what I did here and I see some mistakes I've done that you pointed out. I must have done this while I was stupid tired. Ill comeback to this comment if you ever check back to this thread
That's it from me. Good luck!