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Kodora
omedetou iMage!

twintails so moe >////<
Knotts
Grats! 8-)
Nyukai
#Kaguya4BAT
Topic Starter
Meg
thank you guys !
and Gratz first GD ranked Knotts~
Zare
Extra is fine.
Lach

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

First off I think the offset is actually at 321.
What song are you listening to?

Disregarding that (typo?), there's nothing wrong in particular with the difficulty curve of this mapset. Don't base it off of star rating, you're going to have a bad time.
Meyrink
Gratz owo
Zare
Actually the peak diff has some quirky spacings but it's nothing to be unranked, the rhythms fit mostly

Mainly posting again to say that the ShiraKai's Extra is particularly well done, it's not perfect in terms of placement but the rhythms are really cool
Kibbleru
gj randy
xxdeathx
Mei

M o k o r i wrote:

i like ponytail
Rizia

xxdeathx wrote:

Koiyuki
I can just lol.
Chirony
おめめ!
Sellenite
i just can say..

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
BeatofIke
Twin Tails >w<
Congratulations <3

Also lol xxdeathx XD
xxdeathx
ripped straight off reddit

also how are you up so late? black friday shopping?
BeatofIke
Nah, I'm actually just waking up lol
xxdeathx
my god so early >.<
Topic Starter
Meg
俺の譜面のスレッドで雑談してる・・・
zxhzxhz
Oracle
Regardless of your "mod", I'm just curious about

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

00:39:184 (1) - Someone has to explain to me why all asians like doing this. It's not fun, or nice. AT ALL

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

I want you to keep in mind that this is NOT a hate post. This is just how I feel about the mapset and I am trying to help to make it better. Please don't misunderstand <:
What kind of help are you trying to offer by specifically pointing at ASIANS?

I guess i should be sorry for being an Asian according to this.
Topic Starter
Meg

Sellenite wrote:

i just can say..

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
Hinsvar

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

  1. 00:39:184 (1) - Someone has to explain to me why all asians like doing this. It's not fun, or nice. AT ALL
>asians

I know you just wanted to share your opinion about the map, but the way your post is toned is just...

Whatever I guess; no time to be involved with this, unfortunately.
Fycho
- "Why the men are arrogant and insolent if they are useless and foolish?"

- "Perhaps, that because they never know how big the world is."
I lol'd, really.

well, here is not a place to argue, let's see what will happen during the week.
Kaguya Hourain
Uhhhhh that got taken completely different than I had expected :/

It was just a general observation I made based on my own experience guys. Sorry if it came out like that >.<
those

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

00:39:184 (1) - Someone has to explain to me why all asians like doing this. It's not fun, or nice. AT ALL
Cuz 3/4 sliders are cool and mapping doesn't have to make sense as long as it is cool
Little
Congrats to iMage-- on a really fun map. :)
Momochikun
Posting to say that i like the song, dunno how to deal with that 198 bpm 2.00 sv extra though >_>
Topic Starter
Meg

CloudSplash16 wrote:

Congrats to iMage-- on a really fun map. :)
yea :D
but crazy www

Momochikun wrote:

Posting to say that i like the song, dunno how to deal with that 198 bpm 2.00 sv extra though >_>
<<_<<
rrtyui
omedetou!! :)
Mao

Reason for Disqualification


  1. soft-hitclap is delayed by 10ms which is noticeable ingame and therefore gives a mistimed feeling. Pic
  2. Well after some discussion with other QAT members I've decided to consider this as "not ready for rank" yet due to the lack of quality in especially the lower difficulties but also the TwinExtra.
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[ Knott's Normal]
  1. 00:46:306 (1) - Unsure if this is that a good idea for a Normal. First off all you can see it still covered by 00:45:093 (3) - 's tail and it's also overlapping itself which might be kind of confusing for newbie players.
  2. 01:11:609 - What's about this volume change? Doesn't really make any sense to me.
[ Mei's Hard]
  1. 00:09:487 (4,5) - All the other repeated 1/4 Sliders were repeated twice but why is this repeated 4 times? This can be quite confusing (it made me break lol) due to it being surprising for the player.
[P A N's Insane ]
  1. 00:53:124 (1) - Why do you even map the blue tick if you are silencing it? There's nothing to follow there at all.
  2. 01:16:760 (1) - Having the Sliderticks silenced and the Sliderslide unsilenced would fit this much better if you ask me as there is more of a hold in the background than a beat represented by the ticks.
  3. Are all of these extensions in the Kiai necessary? They kind of ruin the difficulty a bit if you ask me.
[ TwinExtra]

  • alacat wrote:

    also TwinExtra is overmapped imo
    00:07:063 (1,2,3) -
    00:20:700 (8) -
    00:53:124 (1,2) -
    01:06:078 (2) -
    01:07:669 (1,2,3) -
    01:18:654 (2,3,4,5,6) -
  1. This is full of 1,00 SV to 2,00 SV transitions which can generally feel kinda unnatural. Having a lower transition would work much better.
  2. My main concern here are these overmaps and most of the extensions like 00:37:518 (5,1) - which just play unfortunate due to them ending on basically nothing.
  3. 00:42:215 (2,3) - Why are you using such big jumps here? It's a calm section!
  4. 01:16:760 (1) - Same as in Insane.
  5. Overall I know it's supposed to be a hard Extra difficulty but this just lacks connection to the overall feeling of the song due to all the overmaps, overdone patterns etc.
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The best way to improve the overall set's quality would be to find more mods on Easy and the TwinExtra. The Insane could take some more ones as well but especially Easy needs some more work in terms of rhythm due to some rather complex ones for such high BPMs. TwinExtra needs more revision on the side of the patterns (some jumps just feel overdone IMO) and extensions/overmaps which are partially unfitting.
Desperate-kun is going to post a summary of some discussions I had with him about the lower diffs and his own ideas about them.
This is going to be handeled by BATs from now on, good luck!
Myxo
Mao asked me to take a look at the lower diffs, so here we go~ (I did leave out stuff he already pointed out for Normal)

[Easy]

  1. 00:02:669 (1) - I'd remove the last red dot, although it's not something you have to change, but it makes the slidershape look a bit cramped and it doesn't really complement the music well imo.
  2. 00:09:942 - The NC should be here instead of at 00:11:306 - according to your combo pattern.
  3. 00:47:669 (1) - Remove NC, it doesn't follow your combo pattern. I'd also recommend you to use a simple curve instead of a slidershape with a red anchor. It makes the slidershape look really special although the music is not.
  4. 00:47:669 (1,1,2) - The angle of movement is too sharp here for an Easy. Newbies will likely have problems with readability here due to the tail of 00:50:093 (2) being closer to the previous circle than it's head. You could try a more simple placement, for example http://puu.sh/dfBi7/779a9f9c12.jpg
  5. 00:54:336 (2) - What about moving the red anchor onto the slidertick, so the slidershape is not so cramped? http://puu.sh/dfBCO/89910c0dd1.jpg
  6. 00:55:245 (3,1) - Please avoid to have circles after 3/2-gaps. It is difficult for most newbies to read and understand these, but if you use a slider afterwards they can click a bit earlier or later without getting really low accuracy. This: http://puu.sh/dfBQ2/6ff3d8da43.jpg would be a good solution here, although you'd use many 3/2-sliders, but there isn't really a different possibility.
  7. 00:57:669 (3) - Please extend it until 00:58:124 - It sounds much better with the vocals and instruments you are following.
  8. 01:00:700 - What about adding a circle here? It sounds nice with the emphasized vocals and drums.
  9. 01:01:457 (2) - I'd use a straight slider, it fits much better with the abrupt cymbals here.
  10. 01:02:518 (3) - Same as 00:57:669
[Knotts' Normal]

  1. Your kiai settings don't make sense to me. In this section 01:19:033 - you have kiai although it's the same as 00:12:366 - where there is none.
  2. 00:00:397 (1,2) - These rhythms are really weird. qwqwqw of all, it's the same music twice, so the rhythm should be repeated in some kind. Then, you are mapping on beats where there is nothing, 00:01:003 - Try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/dfCt9/df8ac2abf5.jpg
  3. 00:14:790 (1,2,3,4) - Hmm this pattern is worrysome. Going back-and-forth like this is not recommended for Normals, since it might be hard to read the 00:15:851 (3) for players of this difficulty. But with an 1/2-stack like it's used here, it becomes more confusing. Please change it to something more simple, for example: http://puu.sh/dfCXy/65b4a8ccee.jpg
  4. 00:35:093 - A whistle would fit better than a clap here. Same for 00:37:518
  5. 00:45:093 (3,4,1) - As Mao already said, this placement is not suited for a Normal since (1) is really unusual and difficult to read. Maybe you could try this placement: http://puu.sh/dfDeR/a786d11fd2.jpg
  6. 00:47:366 (3) - Rotate by 7° to make a blanket.
I actually think the Easy (and Normal) are quite good except the issues mentioned, so if you fix most of this, the lower diffs should not be a problem. At the moment, the rather complex slidershapes in Easy don't really fit the song though and some rhythms and placement needs to be rethought imo.
Good luck!
Sakura
I'm also going to add that the last slider on TwinExtra is not only ugly but unfitting, and granted you don't have any spinners in that difficulty it'd be better to simply use an spinner like in the other difficulties, also
[ShiraKai's Extra]
00:07:972 (1,2,3,4,5) - All of these sliders should end 1/4 earlier.
00:53:275 (1,1) - I dont like the change from 0.5x to 1.2x

That's most of what I remember from the quick look i took, will do full mod if you need so feel free to PM if you need me.
VINXIS
:') rip my first 200+ pp hdhr score

oh well if i did it before i could do it again

pls fix and rerank
Knotts
Fixed everything, mostly using Desperate-kun's examples :3

Knotts' Normal
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Version:Knotts' Normal
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49,330,56760,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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154,202,61306,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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434,300,64336,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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166,311,69184,2,0,P|88:313|56:351,2,110,8|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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456,209,72821,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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110,193,74033,1,8,0:0:0:0:
145,88,74336,1,8,0:0:0:0:
254,84,74639,1,8,0:0:0:0:
300,183,74942,2,0,P|363:190|427:163,1,110,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Xinely
I ranked a week ago and got disqualify coz delayed hitsound that "ranked" as ranking criteria yesterday. How lucky i am :C

Sorry iMage san for the trouble. Hope it will be requalify soon ><
Shohei Ohtani
lmao literally every map i've bubbled/ranked in december is getting disqualified hahhaha see ya BAT
Albertol
QATs.... why? Just why? darn it...
Sellenite
do you guys quality assurance which you think is bad is just leave a “need more work” and “this is going to be handeled by bats from now on, good luck!”
quality where are you
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