Karen wrote:

[General]

1. Files unused:
   {sb\thanks to\v.png}
2. Unused hitsounds:
   {normal-hitclap.wav} {soft-hitwhitstle6.wav}

[E.T.]

1. 00:53:020 (4) - 音效不要加到滑条身体上，不然会有滋的一声很难听
2. 01:15:820 (1,1) - 这么快的滑条，打完会有甩出去的惯性，所以下一个物件叠在尾巴上不怎么合适，移远一点
3. 01:21:306 (1,1) - 这也有一点，而且叠滑条头尾看起来不错但是实际上很丑，两个滑条都碰擦了，跟前面的blanket十分不搭调
4. 03:27:820 (1) - 03:33:306 (1) - ^
5. 01:55:077 - 钢琴在这，转盘在这停比较好，如果可以的话加个音效
6. 04:49:420 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 这个差距实在太大了，要么前四个扩大一点，要么后四个缩小一点，突然这么大的距离达不到这个梗的效果。。

不想说太多，十分独特的风格，搞完了我来泡。

BeatofIke wrote:

4 month old bubble...
Call me back if you are still alive.

BeatofIke wrote:

Your soft-hitwhitstle6.wav is usused and your normal-hitclap4 has delays (replace with this one)
Also, your flash.png, darkness.png, THUNDER2.PNG, THUNDER1.PNG are too big. Maybe reduce these images to 1366x768.

Other than that, good map. Call me back, so I can re-check and add 2nd bubble =w=b

Hula wrote:

Hi there, I just saw this map and thought that it needed more attention, so I hope I can help out

Also, please use tick rate 2 actually cos of hi hats.

00:22:591 - , 00:23:277 - the song strongly relies on the hi hat for its rhythm, like it's super obvious, how come you haven't placed an object here? It sounds really empty [Through this whole section]
00:30:049 (9) - Why is there a clap on the slider end?
00:24:563 (3,1) - Why is this DS slightly less than the previous, when it should be obviously more, it has a 'stalling' effect.
00:26:020 (7) - Now you introduce actually mapping this hi-hat here, though for no real reason, cos you could've done it earlier in that bar, it's a random introduction, just include it from the beginning.
00:27:477 (1) - Spacing?
00:32:963 (1,2) - The flow here is unnecessarily awkward. It would be better to have a more straight forward pattern where objects lead onto each other in a much more standard/intuitive manner giving the stage of the song we're in.
00:30:906 (3,4,5) - What's the reason for the spacing to stay the same?
00:33:649 (3,4,5) - ^But it doesn't stay the same here
00:34:677 (2,3) - Spacing?
00:41:191 (1) - This could be executed much better
00:43:677 (1) - Have the spinner end earlier and just have it 1/4 circles going into the slider instead
00:46:334 (1,2,3,4,5) - These 'whistles' (who in their right mind puts these in Finish combo? >_>) are awfully loud and probably could do with being quietened down in audacity.
00:46:677 (1) - NC instead? Just stick to simple NC every bar? Idk why you're constantly NCing the red tick straight after each downbeat.
00:45:649 (1,2,3,4) - I'm confused by the spacing. The 1-2 has really high spacing, yet compared to 2-3 there is less in the music, yet you haven't emphasised 2-3 at all. I recommend 1-2 being low ds and 2,3,4 being higher DS.
00:46:849 (2) - Why are you stacking here?
00:47:020 (3) - Why is there a finish on the slider end? This is really misleading in terms of rhythm and sounds bad.
00:49:420 (5) - Why this hitsound? I can't hear any substantial change in the song for this, it just seems odd
00:49:591 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - You were mapping the rhythms of the song up until this point, at which you seemingly stopped caring about the rhythm and just spammed 1/2 circles with poor spacing.
00:52:163 (1) - Odd hitsound randomly again - Remember hitsounds are for player feedback and are best used consistently and not just as a one off feature =]
00:53:020 (4) - Not a fan of stacking kicks and claps onto one slider
00:57:991 (3) - These finishes on the slider ends sound really bad, sorry.
01:03:134 (1,1,1,1) - Very confused by the use of decreasing slider velocities here, I would have imagined fast sliders going around in a flowy pattern somehow. Not a slow and reducing spacing/velocity
01:04:506 (1,1) - Bit drastic SV change?
Also, I think you should use slider tick 2 here and maybe you could also hitsound some slider ticks which go over the top of kicks and claps?
01:11:363 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Once again, strange choice of rhythm for no reason. Cos it doesn't follow anything
01:28:506 (1) - Why the clap?
01:29:877 (5) - Why the finish whistle thing? Like this whole section is plagued by odd hitsound pattern and is really way too loud
01:43:934 (6) - not even blanket
01:47:706 (7) - polish thing where you could make this section look super neat and not have anything overlap at all :p
01:48:563 (2,3,4,5,6) - You can have this looking better executed and with proper use of editor tools by rotating 2,3 objects by 120 and 240 degrees for a proper triangle, it would end up like this -

SPOILER

01:51:820 - Might as well delete this forest of green lines
01:55:249 (1) - put soft whistle on it?
02:00:734 (1) - like the last section, I think this hitsound patterning is very odd and is also way too loud
02:08:963 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Inaudible, especially considering the hitsound volumes prior. The whole stream is compeltely overmap with no basis of 1/4.

02:11:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sorry, but this should not even be ranked.

I am a bit perplexed why you would use normal-hitnormal in the kiais though, seeming as you have put a lot of effort into finding custom hitsounds and all.

02:16:506 (1) - Very odd, you're kinda making things up in the song with this hitsound at this point, and I personally think that's the cardinal sin of hitsounding, is when you start making your own rhythms up with it. I say this cos the sound ends up justifying the slider, without the hitosund the slider doesn't have a place imo.
02:19:849 (4) - Why is this a clap?
02:21:991 (1) - What's the jusitifcation of this hitsound?
02:22:334 (3,4,5,6,1) - All of a sudden you've changed how you're mapping these hi hats for no reason, I think you should keep to one thing, at least within sections on this song. (Use your soft finish whistle thing)
02:24:391 (3,5) - Both these sliders should be further than 1.0 ds from their previous objects, they have both a clap and vocal on them.
02:27:477 (1) - hitsound thing like mentioned earlier
02:31:249 (2,3,4) - ?
02:41:791 (4) - Why is there a clap?
02:44:963 (2,3,4) - I am confused by the constant use of this spaced 1/4 here, I don't think it really fits with the map as a whole, it's too spaced, shitmiss baity and too accelerating. A stacked 3,4 plays much better (this comment is for previous and future ones)
02:47:534 (2,2) - Could avoid that overlap
02:49:420 (1) - WHOAH. All of a sudden you change like all your hitsound samples, the song hasn't changed that drastically. You change to hi hat ones, soft sample set, different clap, like damn.
02:52:849 (2) - Missing hitsound
02:55:934 - Missing object
02:57:649 (2) - Strange hitsound and I'm not a fan of this slider mimmicking the previous 2 sliders because 02:56:449 (4,4) - both do the kick and clap right, but this one does a different part of the rhythm, but it rotates by just as much and seemingly is meant to represent the same part of the rhythm, but it doesn't.
02:58:849 (2) - Why this random finish again?
03:01:077 (1) - Once again, random finish. Sure, you might have used it a minute prior and might be in the same spot or whatever, but it's too far in distance from last used to be called consistent in this scenario .
03:03:991 (2) - Not a fan of you starting a slider on this red tick of nothingness and ending on the clap, takes away any emphasis on the rhythm of the song.
03:08:620 (4) - Another random whistle >_>
03:09:220 (4) - This clap again, it doesn't have a place here.
03:09:649 (3) - Same with this finish
03:12:220 (2,3) - Why this spacing? 2-3 should be the bigger spacing.
03:16:163 (1) - You use this hitsound here, but the prior use of this was on a really slow slider, but this time it's used on a really fast slider, it's too inconsistent.
03:23:021 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Once again, this rhythm is too underwhelming and doesn't represent the song well enough, especially considering that this map is explicitly an extra and doesn't need dumbed down rhythms. If you were thinking the rhythms of the song weren't making an exciting map btw, map a more interesting song (i like the song btw).

03:25:421 (2,1) - So, this map is kind of plagued as a whole with this sort of thing, notice how the flow from the slider into the 1 is broken, like it looks and plays just not quite right? The map is littered with sort of thing, as if patterns were made and just stuck together as individuals, it often doesn't feel like a cohesive map. I thought I'd bring this up here randomly, since I didn't want to make an essay about it .

03:39:477 (1) - Strange use of claps in this section considering there's only a constant piano rhythm, a soft whistle spam would be more appropriate. This whole section could even be unmapped, I think it would be okay personally since it's such a dull rhythm to map interestingly for like 21 seconds
04:23:020 (6,1) - Gross overlap
04:23:363 (1) - This should be a faster slider if anything

04:50:791 (1,1,1) - Random rhythm in the buildup. It breaks the flow. If you keep them use the same slider shape and use ctrl+shift+S on them and decrease size

04:57:991 (3,6) - Blanket
05:01:077 (1) - This is ugly lol
05:07:249 (1) - Intrusive hitsound

05:07:591 (1,2,3) - This is how the previous kiai should have been spaced with these 1/4 imo.

05:09:820 (3) - Unnecessary clap -
05:12:049 (1) - Once again, I really don't agree with this use of hitsound and slow slider - I won't mention this again cos I think I made myself clear on this one.
05:15:305 (5) - Unnecessary clap
05:21:477 (2,3) - Gross overlap
05:40:162 (7,8) - This is very ugly and not a pattern, it looks very unpolished.
05:40:849 (2,3) - Use same sliders
05:20:620 (5) - Clap on slider end is unnecessary
05:26:277 (3) - Unecessary clap - I won't mention these again - you should remove all these claps that land on this tick
05:32:449 (1,2) - Suddenly you use this rhythm instead of circles, why?
05:43:591 (1,2,3,4) - Proper square please
05:43:934 (3,4,1) - This spacing is bad, 4-1 should be the increase in spacing
05:44:106 (4) - Unnecessary clap
05:44:963 (1) - Why have you changed clap? It's unnecessary and is very surprising, it's a louder clap than the kiai. Also, in this section reduce the volume, it's 100% and the loudest of all the song, lol.
05:52:420 (1,2) - Stack
05:57:991 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - Once again, I'm not a fan of this choice of rhythm here for no reason. Also this pattern could be executed much more tidily with no overlaps etc.
05:59:191 (2,3,1) - This whole spacing here feels very odd, coupled with the unnecessary changing hitsounds you apply every couple of downbeats
06:00:049 (1) - Remove these hitsounds, the song once again isn't doing anything interesting to warrant such hitsounds
06:19:934 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Why this rhythm again
06:22:506 (2,3) - Really broken play, doesn't flow at all.
06:22:506 (2,3,1,2,3) - The spacing here is just really odd to play, like I don't understand it .
06:23:706 (1,2,3,4,5) - This has no reason to be like this, it's ugly, it's deliberately for gimmick and will cause people to shitmiss and not enjoy the map.
06:26:791 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This is wholly underwhelming in terms of spacing
06:28:849 (1,1,1) - Poor choice of rhythm here.
06:44:106 (1,2,5) - Could be made neater
06:50:106 (5,6,7) - This is an example of poor flow
06:52:163 (3,1) - Space more



On the whole, some interesting ideas, not executed greatly though, since the map doesn't seem to use the tools there which would make nice neat patterns instead of messy ones by freehand. Also, on a whole I noticed that the flow between patterns felt very disjointed a lot of the time which leads to uncomfortable and unenjoyable play. This is caused by you changing the direction of flow so drastically so frequently and don't take into consideration which way the cursor is moving.

The hitsounds could also do with a rework. The song doesn't need fancy random whistles and cymbal crashes which you've added in, they feel really out of place and a bit silly, I recommend you remove those. The base hitsounds of kicks and claps and whistles are quite cool, but you've overdone it on the hitsounds.

GL and I hope this helps

appleeaterx wrote:

Congrats!

edit: according to veela's blog at 05:05:963 - should be "I took your memories" , i dont think there's any rule that says SB lyric should be on point, but i do recommend changing it tho before its too late

also, is the difficulty E.T. allowed? to me it does relate to username(s), Echoy & Tatsh (mapper + SBer), so are abbreviations like these allowed?
just judging by the lyrics i cannot find a direct link to extraterrestrial stuff, but it kinda makes sense in some way i guess...

anyways this is just what concerned me the most - sb is cool and the map itself is really unique.... awesome work

Asphyxia wrote:

Absolutely love this map, congratulations Echoy

fieryrage wrote:

00:42:563 (1) - why is this sliderend poking thrOUGH not sure what do you mean ;-;
00:47:020 (2) - and why is there a finish on this slider end hmm, it looks nice to me, it's a rhythm i created. you can find rhythm like that in a lot of music ^ ^
01:27:820 (1) - why is this a different color???? this slider represents the end of this section, so i wanted it looks different
02:08:963 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is actually pretty ugly, idk if that's what you were going for but it also plays really bad transition-wise hmm.. i think it's beautiful ;-; sorry

theres other stuff too, this map as it is is pretty unpolished imo, im surprised no one pointed out stuff like this

fieryrage wrote:

this map as it is is pretty unpolished

1. 00:30:906 (3,4,5) - So, I'm not so sure why you did this. Literally the only pattern that is so different from the others, the music is still the same.
2. 00:37:763 (4,5,6,1) - In-game and in the editor, placement and structure looks really bad. You could try something like this for example. Your current flow doesn't play too good. You are forcing players to move to the top left and then you place a slider to the left. If you want something similar to what you have right now, you could copy-paste (5) to recreate the same sound to (6) (this will also make your pattern more polished) and then place things in a more "linear" way to make use of the slider leniency, clickerino.
3. 00:47:020 (2) - Pretty sure that cymbal hitsound isn't intended.
4. 01:07:591 (5,1,2) - Not really agree with this linear flow being placed like that. What are you trying to achieve? Literally breaks with all the previous flow and emphasis you were building up.
5. 01:36:735 (1,2) - Well, this could've been a blanket.
6. 01:43:420 (4,6) - I would call this kinda edgy. Slidertail is barely visible once (4) is popped out.
7. 01:47:706 (7,1) - Your NC is screwed here.
8. 02:08:963 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Blatant overmapping. You know what would be really, but like, really good? A spinner. And then, you could start a good build-up on 02:10:163 - !
9. 02:39:134 (4,5) - Jump seems kinda random. If I were you, I would keep the consistency and replace this for a slider.
10. 03:09:477 (2,3) - By taking a quick look at previous 1/4 patterns you did, like 02:37:420 (4,5,6) - as reference, this one could literally be considered as a 1/4 pattern as well. And something similar happens with 03:10:334 (6) - later on. This all comes to how you are mapping the song.
11. 03:14:791 (1,1,1,1) - Great idea here, actually. Awesome work!
12. 03:56:963 (5,6,1,2) - Transition from (6,1) is actually very, very bad. This is extremely counter-intuitive and judging by the amount of overlaps you are using in this section, I am calling this as unreadable. When you try patterns like this, you must ensure two things: first one being preachment of the change in the flow; second one would be assuring readability. If you, for example, move 03:56:963 (5,3) - like shown in this picture this would become something more comfortable to play.
13. 04:39:134 (3) - I get your point of "let's actually map the ~a~ sound in the background with one slider!", but you are actually ignoring everything else... cause of that? On a 5* SR map? I bet you got kinda lazy there. Also, after that sudden slow-down caused by the slider, you have 04:42:563 - that section with super spaced notes that literally have no meaning whatsoever.
14. 05:17:534 (1,2) - What are the odds of players not clicking these as a 1/4 right after they have passed through 05:12:049 (1,1) - ? Personally, I would think they are the same type of pattern. 05:23:020 (1,1) - Do you see how impossible to recognize some patterns are?
15. 05:43:934 (3,4,1) - I just want to talk about the linear flow again. If you want to make patterns like this that involve linear movements, try to at least get the proper emphasis for them. The sudden slow-down from (4,1) kills the whole motion of the pattern.
16. 06:15:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just pointing this out as the only wav-y stream in the whole map. Just me finding it extremely random.
17. 06:17:877 (1) - I thought you were making sliders like this even slower! What happened? And also, 06:17:877 (1,1) - these should be spaced out, mostly consistency, that's what you've been doing throughout the whole map, right?
18. 06:23:706 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hm...

Monstrata wrote:

Don't map just for the nice patterns .

Yuii- wrote:

fieryrage wrote:

this map as it is is pretty unpolished

I actually agree somehow. so sad about that ;-;

Before starting with anything else, I do not think this difficulty is anywhere ready to be ranked, as it contains gameplay elements that I find really doubtful and that need to be discussed more. While I see that random spacing is pretty much accepted nowadays, I consider this case as rather overdoing this way too much. And that's why there's one fact I still can't ignore: your consistency. Literally non-existent. There's no consistency at all in the whole map. Things feel so randomly placed that it's hard to "guess" where players should move their cursors in order to continue with a good transition.

Most patterns don't have a clear path at all. Most of triplets/streams are extremely unpolished. Just taking 02:41:705 (3) - as an example to generalize how this happens literally in the whole map. This even happens on straight streams, like 03:03:649 (3) - .
From inconsistencies to some awkward angles, this map might need some more work. Although, I gotta recognize you did a good work with some other patterns such as 03:01:420 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - that, even if they are actually hard to play, they are very challenging and fun.

As for hitsounds, sections like 01:32:620 (5) - and 01:35:363 (5) - could be moderated a little bit. Whistles are super loud there, even when there's no need to place a hitsound at all! Also, 04:01:763 - on this section, the amount of random whistles combined with how loud they are, it just sounds way too bad. sorry i insist my way of hitsounding.

Regarding some other patterns. Mostly separated into different sections. Will try to select some examples on each one:

1. 00:30:906 (3,4,5) - So, I'm not so sure why you did this. Literally the only pattern that is so different from the others, the music is still the same.
2. 00:37:763 (4,5,6,1) - In-game and in the editor, placement and structure looks really bad. You could try something like this for example. Your current flow doesn't play too good. You are forcing players to move to the top left and then you place a slider to the left. If you want something similar to what you have right now, you could copy-paste (5) to recreate the same sound to (6) (this will also make your pattern more polished) and then place things in a more "linear" way to make use of the slider leniency, clickerino.
3. 00:47:020 (2) - Pretty sure that cymbal hitsound isn't intended. yes it is intended ^ ^, as you can see in another part
4. 01:07:591 (5,1,2) - Not really agree with this linear flow being placed like that. What are you trying to achieve? Literally breaks with all the previous flow and emphasis you were building up.
5. 01:36:735 (1,2) - Well, this could've been a blanket.
6. 01:43:420 (4,6) - I would call this kinda edgy. Slidertail is barely visible once (4) is popped out.
7. 01:47:706 (7,1) - Your NC is screwed here.
8. 02:08:963 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Blatant overmapping. You know what would be really, but like, really good? A spinner. And then, you could start a good build-up on 02:10:163 - ! i don't agree on this, i think the stream is better than a spinner, and i have way too much spinners in this map. there are just 2 super long ones just before this one, too repeated if I put a spinner here again.
9. 02:39:134 (4,5) - Jump seems kinda random. If I were you, I would keep the consistency and replace this for a slider.
10. 03:09:477 (2,3) - By taking a quick look at previous 1/4 patterns you did, like 02:37:420 (4,5,6) - as reference, this one could literally be considered as a 1/4 pattern as well. And something similar happens with 03:10:334 (6) - later on. This all comes to how you are mapping the song.
11. 03:14:791 (1,1,1,1) - Great idea here, actually. Awesome work! Thank you
    
12. 03:56:963 (5,6,1,2) - Transition from (6,1) is actually very, very bad. This is extremely counter-intuitive and judging by the amount of overlaps you are using in this section, I am calling this as unreadable. When you try patterns like this, you must ensure two things: first one being preachment of the change in the flow; second one would be assuring readability. If you, for example, move 03:56:963 (5,3) - like shown in this picture this would become something more comfortable to play.
13. 04:39:134 (3) - I get your point of "let's actually map the ~a~ sound in the background with one slider!", but you are actually ignoring everything else... cause of that? On a 5* SR map? I bet you got kinda lazy there. Also, after that sudden slow-down caused by the slider, you have 04:42:563 - that section with super spaced notes that literally have no meaning whatsoever.
14. 05:17:534 (1,2) - What are the odds of players not clicking these as a 1/4 right after they have passed through 05:12:049 (1,1) - ? Personally, I would think they are the same type of pattern. 05:23:020 (1,1) - Do you see how impossible to recognize some patterns are?
15. 05:43:934 (3,4,1) - I just want to talk about the linear flow again. If you want to make patterns like this that involve linear movements, try to at least get the proper emphasis for them. The sudden slow-down from (4,1) kills the whole motion of the pattern.
16. 06:15:477 (1,2,3,4,5) - Just pointing this out as the only wav-y stream in the whole map. Just me finding it extremely random.
17. 06:17:877 (1) - I thought you were making sliders like this even slower! What happened? And also, 06:17:877 (1,1) - these should be spaced out, mostly consistency, that's what you've been doing throughout the whole map, right?
18. 06:23:706 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hm...

Your overall placement, and literally every single overlap makes your map look unpolished with little to no structure that it's forcing your map to stay away from the ranking beatmaps. Most of the objects are placed randomly, don’t fit music at all and are inconsistent.

Remember that the above listed examples are just examples for the mentioned issues so this generally applies to more than just these mentioned ones. This map needs further revision, and I feel like with some work, it could definitely be highly improved in terms of flow and playability though, and even some aesthetics. I suggest you to get a couple more of mods and discuss some dodgy patterns with high-ranked players and even some modders.

Good luck hehe

Shiguri wrote:

i dont think the basskicks fit in the more chilled parts, like this one here 04:04:163 - and 04:06:906 -
the glocks (not sure if its really glocks or not, lets just call it glocks) have some smooth sound, while the kick is at a complete different pitch and doesnt fit to the atmosphere of the song

few other hitsounds where i think it doesnt really fit

(basically every kick in the chilled parts)
06:26:791 (1,1,1) -

i don't know, i think they fit..

and you should fix the storyboard

-

05:07:270 -

fixed, thank you~

also, i dont really see why theres that red flashing light added here 05:51:134 - or the sv boost in general It's not flashing yet, it's fading in~


06:52:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - spacing pls???


dont even know if you will change anything, but i felt like giving opinions here

Avoid going over a 5.0x storyboard load to help prevent lag on older computers. Resizing some of your storyboard images may help with this.

[Events]
//Background and Video events
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
Sprite,Background,TopLeft,"Epiphany.jpg",0,0
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)

examination wrote:

好图
本来想假装没看到的不过既然被dq下来了就说两句好了233

[Storyboard]
00:00:00 - 00:05:534; 05:50:449 - 06:29:534 以及最后的06:56:963 - 07:05:191 持续的sb load超过5.0x

Avoid going over a 5.0x storyboard load to help prevent lag on older computers. Resizing some of your storyboard images may help with this.

解决方法：在osb文件中的 //Storyboard Layer 0 (Background) 的下一行加上 Sprite,Background,TopLeft,"Epiphany.jpg",0,0 可以让背景的透明度变成0，减少1.33x的load，然后当前未用到的图层也可以通过F的指令隐藏，不必一直出现在场景中
上面的虚化背景最后应该是这样的code

[Events]
//Background and Video events
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
Sprite,Background,TopLeft,"Epiphany.jpg",0,0
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)

no kd

examination wrote:

as requested by zzb

优化了下你的追踪代码

用下面代码替换你的62-329行

code

Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"sb\white.png",236,332
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Hula wrote:

I never got a mod reply or kds =[

I'm surprised a BN would rank it after my mod didn't have a reply to it

Karen wrote:

Hula wrote:

I never got a mod reply or kds =[

I'm surprised a BN would rank it after my mod didn't have a reply to it

but it had a reply=[

and have your kds