Amasuro wrote:

Yo, here's the M4M

[General]

1. I-I've never seen a 1086x767 sized background before. actually is ok, but I'll resize it at night

[Easy]

1. 00:32:238 (3) - Move (3) up to give it a better flow from (2)? You'll have to fix the rest of the notes after (3) if you do this. there is a linear flow from the previous object, is fine at it is IMO
2. 00:39:067 (2,4) - Stack (4) on the end of (2)? Don't forget to fix the square afterwards. not even noticeable in game >:
3. 00:43:457 (4,6) - Could be stacked better Fixed
4. 00:49:311 (5) - I understand that you switched to follow the vocals here, but the slider feels off. End it at 00:49:799 - ? both sounds at downbeat and upbeat are almost the same, there is not difference IMO, plus my current transition make this better
5. 01:25:902 (2,3) - Fix blanket? sure thing

[Normal]

1. 00:09:555 (4,5) - Blanket is off a little hope is better now
2. 00:11:994 (2,3) - Same here this one is fine, since the slider shape is too weird to make this perfects orz
3. 00:16:628 (4,5,6) - Maybe you can triangle these sliders? Like this: didn't fix this in your way, but I improve the pattern

[Hard]

1. 00:04:189 (4,5) - Make these two notes into a slider? I know it would end up being different from the other triplets but it feels right to me. nah circles are better IMO, also is consistent with my insane
2. 00:45:165 (5) - Split this up into a slider + a note? (The note would be at 00:45:652 - ) there are not vocals, in most of my maps I bring click actions to vocals, but rarely to the drums
3. 01:05:165 (1,2,3,4) - Rhythm suggestion for this part: I'll consider this one
4. 01:07:116 (1,2,3,4) - If you took the suggestion above, you'll have to change this rhythm too. The one after this one seems fine with its current rhythm, though. ^
5. 01:14:189 (4) - Change this slider into a repeating slider or triplet? nah, I like my rhythm at this part
6. 01:24:433 (6,1) - Since 01:23:945 (5,6) - weren't parallel, I suggest that these two shouldn't be parallel either it's a different combo

[Insane]

Them spaced streams! Uguuu, I don't like spaced streams. I'm terrible at them single tap them *-*

1. 00:07:604 (2,3) - Blanket these two? is other kind of pattern, blanket is not intended
2. 01:19:311 (2,3) - Switch the positions of these notes around? sure thing
3. 01:30:685 (10,1) - Make these two notes into a slider like 01:30:440 (9) - ? yeah I kinda want, but there is a timing change
4. 01:33:490 (4) - I feel like you could map the empty space after this note totally, different instrument
5. 01:36:051 (7) - If you took my previous suggestion, you probably have to fill out the area after this note too ^

That's all I got. Good luck!

Rakuen wrote:

[General]
:3

[Easy]
00:24:433 (3) - Feels more of strong vocal at 00:25:409 - . I'd probably extend the slider to 00:25:409 - any maybe remove the reverse, depeding on how it's mapped I can't do much in this easy diff, also that part is ok IMO T-T
00:41:506 (4) - Stack perfectly on 00:43:458 (4) - (seems it's a square snapped pattern) done in some previous mod
00:45:409 (6) - ^ Applies for this as well, looks neater
00:49:189 - lol fk this vocal (not a mod) IKR
00:49:311 (5) - Prefer to shorten the slider to 00:49:799 - cuz the vocal start dropping there (not stopped) same as previous mod :c
00:51:506 (2) - For this one I'd suggest to extend the slider like 00:24:433 (3) - too blame my vocals mapping
01:01:506 (1) - Minor, on DS maybe snap it to like 1.32x looks better than 1.27x sure
01:10:774 (4) - How about removing this and give players more ready time? becoz 01:05:165 (1,2,3) - are all long sliders, maybe a circle straight afterward may look hard (opt.) I think is ok since 123 bpm xD
01:32:759 (2) - Maybe changing this one could help better in diff spread (opt.). Suggest to extend the slider (uhh...again XD) to 01:33:490 - different instrument
01:38:773 - Not sure if it's rankable in Easy diff, maybe start spinner at 01:38:897 - ? It is rankable, I have other diffs like this tho

[Normal]
00:09:799 (5) - Minor blanket k
00:12:726 (3) - ^ :3 k
00:20:043 (3) - Inconsistency DS It is fine 0,02 is just for grid snap
00:50:530 (1,2,3) - Might be a little specific to follow the vocal if it's the first time listening to the song. Suggest to start following drum at 00:50:287 - nah drims are bored >:, and this is a normal diff not an easy, plus that's why the approach circle exist
01:07:116 (3) - Combo's a bit long, maybe just NC it and for 01:09:067 (5) - , should be fine (like you done for Hard diff) I want to keep all the aishiteru at the same combo
01:31:783 (2) - The cover looks stopped at blue tick 01:32:149 - , it's cool cuz it's slider too hard for a normal diff, players will stop holding the slider if I do this
01:36:051 - ^ Applies for here as well ^
01:38:773 (1) - I'd prefer to let the spinner starts 01:38:897 - , try avoiding blue ticks to start spinner besides Hard and InsaneO don't see a valid reason tho do this, and I don't get why this will be hard for a normal diff

[Hard]
00:06:872 (1) - Feeling maybe can minimize the jump to around the DS of 00:04:921 (1) - , new beat and a start, might be easier to estimate (opt.) that's why the NC :c
00:28:457 (1) - Prefer to make this like 00:20:530 (7) - and 00:26:384 (6) - , a slider instead of spinner to aid the silent blank part the spinner fit the vocals nicely T-T
00:36:140 (8) - Minor blanket (tail) did something
00:58:335 (4) - A bit messy here. It looks like jumps (even it's snapped) so possibly avoid any stacks with other circles, even using a bigger DS (include 00:59:311 (8) - if it's stacked) that pattern play awesome IMO
01:25:411 (2,3,4) - Maybe could try and snap these to the vocal which are 01:25:534 - and 01:25:779 - seems like a lot of notes are on vocal, and the cover is quite tiny Vocals are off, for sure there are not snapped at blue tick, if you listen to 25% you can notice it, maybe is 1/6 but I don't want to have weird snaps in this mapset :v

[Insane]
00:09:555 (2) - Replace this with a short slider ends at 00:09:677 - would fit the vocal better, but if you insist to keep the star pattern it's quite alternative 00:09:555 (2,3,4,5,6) - every hit have vocals, I prefer this like that
00:15:409 - Could try and add a timing to lower the volume of slider tail, the song is quiet I'll consider this
00:28:457 - Like Hard diff's mod, suggest to make this a long slider to cover the silent blank part same as hard
00:31:018 - Same as 00:15:409 - (extra slider tail hitsound) I'll consider this one

Hope they helped

Xinely wrote:

m4m desu o/

• 
  Easy

1. 00:04:921 (2) - add finish on head because it has cymbal sound here sure added to every diff
2. 00:16:628 (4,5) - hmm imo you can improve 00:15:165 (2,4) - by symmetrical and then do the (5) become like http://puu.sh/cjgOq.jpg , they have better flow imo actually is more a flow pattern than a symmetrical one, I prefer to keep it as it is
3. 00:23:457 (2) - end the slider in whitetick 00:23:945 - to follow the music here. i kinda dislike too much 1/2 in Easy altho this one has low bpm. also it will give more sense if you follow the music instead of vocal 1/2 transitions between sliders are fine in a easy diff, I'm a vocal mapper >: and this song is mostly about vocals than instruments, (my point of view when mapping this)
4. 00:24:433 (3) - here too. the red tick doesnt follow the sound with nicely since the red tick has only vocal here. if you map it when you skip vocal on 00:25:409 - that is sound bad for me. i would say to change like http://puu.sh/cjh6O.jpg instead I prefer to follow vocals, like I don in most of my maps, about that I skipped some is just cuz I can't map every sound/vocal in an easy diff (mostly cuz will be a really hard easy and the diff porgresion that I have
5. 00:49:311 (5) - end the slider to 00:49:799 - since stanza has quite loud sound here. hmm actually i have an idea for this rhythm, http://puu.sh/cjhqP.jpg (start from 00:49:311 - ) actually both the stanza and the current slider end have the same sound, and for better transiton between polaritys, I guess my current way is the best here
6. 00:51:506 (2) - perhaps add finish on tail because it has cymbal sound? you did it at masayume chasing gero's map added whistle instead (btw I didn't hitsound that collab was gero xD)
7. 00:53:701 (1) - add finish here? quite faint but i hear a sound like cymbal here probably but is almost inaudible and sound too loud with the song T-T
8. 01:05:409 - you should map this time with finish, the music is so loud baka :C following vocals, I want to keep ¨aishiteru¨ as slider
9. 01:07:116 (2) - this rhythm feels weird actually when it starts to follow vocal and it ends with follow music. just start the slider in 01:07:360 - would be fine ^
10. 01:09:311 - same as 01:05:409 - , crash cymbal here :C ^
11. 01:30:317 (2) - move the circle to 320,76 to make blanket with 01:27:864 (4) - , also has better flow for 01:28:845 (1,2,1) - too probably wrong coordinates
12. 01:32:759 (2) - you should add finish on repeat here because that cymbal added on every diff

• 
  Normal

1. 00:04:189 (3) - that's become weird when the you skip sound at 00:04:311 - but you followed it on 00:03:335 - . i guess change 00:03:945 (2,3) - become like 00:02:970 (1) - instead nice, done
2. 00:06:872 (1) - just nazi but it would be nicer if you keep the 1,4x spacing here (currently it has 1,31x) lol the distance is correct it shows 1.31 cuz I did a SV change in 00:06:872
3. 00:16:628 (4) - finish at head because cymbal okis
4. 00:18:091 (7) - you're the one who tell me to not map stanza with slider's repeat or tail so please remove the repeat here and add cricle to stanza here. when you're fix this one 00:18:823 (1) - remove this circle since the 1/2 rhythms are quite long here imo I told you that, cuz you regulary follow the instruments, but I'm following the vocals
5. 00:32:969 (5) - it has only vocal here so imo you can remove this circle to make 1/2 rhythms become shorter than before. imo quite long here even low bpm. I'm following vocals, plus at this bpm the 1/2 are really not hard to play
6. 00:33:945 (7) - and map the stanza with clickable object please example 00:33:945 (7) - change into circles and remove one on 00:34:433 (1) - C:
7. 00:40:043 (5) - add finish on head? you did it at Easy problem is that the stanza doesn't have vocals which is to what I'm mapping
8. 00:38:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i hope you can make easier rhythm here just like 00:41:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (i really like this a lot) ;w; first one is the moment where the song get really strong in the second one I did that to give to the player a bit more of recovery
9. 00:51:506 (4) - i hope you can change with this circle and 1/1 slider since stanza has loud piano sound I'm mapping to the vocals not the piano T.T
10. 00:53:701 - map this one because the music is loud D: , when you add it you can remove 00:53:945 (1) - this one ^
11. 01:05:165 (1) - this one too, map the stanza with clickable object here. example change this slider into 2 circles from 01:05:165 - to 01:05:409 - and keep blank for next redtick same as easy diff.
12. 01:07:116 (3) - tbh the music is calm here so clap sounds better for me. but that's up to you if you are talking about the repeat, there is a strong cymbal in the music
13. 01:09:067 (5) - same as 01:05:165 (1) - same
14. 01:12:969 (1,2) - swap the NC, NC for stanza giving more sense because emphasize the music change pattern I'm also following the vocals >: with my comboing
15. 01:21:018 - map this one with finish, i would say add circle 01:21:018 - and remove this slider 01:21:262 (1) - , change it with circle at 01:21:506 - instead following the vocals
16. 01:22:969 - same as above, add circle here, 01:23:213 (4) - change this slider with 01:23:457 - ^
17. 01:31:783 (2) - if you follow guitar, it should be end in next blue tick, but i prefer suggest end to whitetick one instead both upbeat and offbeat have the same sound, but ending it at bluetick will make new players fail a lot... that's why I prefer to keep it in the upbeat
18. 01:35:686 (2) - ^ ^

• 
  Hard

1. 00:05:409 - 00:05:896 - 00:06:384 - if you hear the music clearly, you will hear QUITE faint cymbal sounds here. i guess you can add finish for these times since finish heard nicely here <3 If I do that I'll ruin the feeling of the strong ones like 00:04:921
2. 00:18:335 (5,1) - swap the rhythm, stanza need something clickable here I'm following vocals
3. 00:26:384 (6,1) - swap the NC? NC will give something feel when it has cymbal sound here 00:26:384 (6) - is the same part of the vocals section at 00:25:165 (1,2,3,4,5) - that's why
4. 00:33:945 (7,1) - same as 00:18:335 (5,1) - same
5. 00:36:140 (8) - i feel that ctrl+G gives better flow here since it will make triangle flow. almost similar that you did in last circles I'll consider this, since I don't want to ruin my antijump 00:36:140 (8,1) -
6. 00:47:116 (6) - a little bit trap for newbie who wants play Hard diff here, it would be nicer 00:47:238 (7) - make slider repeat instead and start at redtick following vocals.. also a new player will play easy diffs or maybe normals, a player who want to play hard diffs is someone that is capable to play them
7. 00:49:311 (5) - not really loud at stanza but i would say to map it with something clickable again since it feel quite weird for me http://puu.sh/cjk3K.jpg following vocals T-T
8. 00:51:506 (4) - add finish at head same reason as Easy whistle is better IMO
9. 00:53:701 (4,1) - swap NC add finish at stanza here. cymbal sound ahaha I'm following vocals with my comboing, there is not a rule that said that I only can follow the bpm with my combos
10. 01:05:165 (1) - we need moar something clickable for stanza :C vocals
11. 01:07:116 (1) - 01:09:067 (1) - same as above same as above
12. 01:16:628 (6) - yeah same as above, i guess 3/4 slider with 1/2 slider at stanza would be nice here blame me for following the vocals T.T
13. 01:21:018 - 01:22:969 - we need moar something clickable for stanza, i would say 01:20:774 (5,1) - swap rhythm and 01:22:726 (6,1) - here too :C ^
14. 01:31:051 (2) - finish at tail because cymbal sound here done all of them
15. 01:33:003 (2) - ^
16. 01:34:954 (2) - ^
17. 01:38:649 (1) - give a jump for this time please. consistency spacing feels too boring when the previous circles are consistent each other is a circle pattern, adding a jump will make the player fail at the last moment and is not cool xD

• 
  Insane

1. 00:05:409 (4,6,8) - same as Hard, would be nice to give finish on them same as hard
2. 00:06:872 (1,2,3) - make something neater design here since 00:06:872 (1,3) - not overlapped with nicely here for me. i would make something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2153222 about this pattern is intended T-T, it play really nice with DT
3. 00:09:677 - would be nice if you add triplet here. this is Insane diff after all. should be have much 1/4 as it mapped possibly here not really will be really weird and will confuse the player, I'm following vocals
4. 00:12:969 (5) - hmm actually the rhythm feels undermapped here, especially that 1/1 blank too. i would say to follow the snare guitars sound here, it should be like http://puu.sh/cjkIS.jpg is true, but the fact is that I'm mapping just to the vocals :c
5. 00:18:335 (8,1) - swap the rhythm please. stanza feel so baka with slider's tail when the diff is Insane :C just for being an insane doesn't mean that I should map every sound, plus as you know I'm following vocals not the instruments T-T
6. 00:27:604 (1,2,3,4) - the flow feels too boring when you do much of similar things here, try make triangle flow instead? feels better for me http://puu.sh/cjkOw.jpg (intentional to make (1) not stacked (4) so you can read the flow clearly here, but i suggest it (1) (4) stacked here) I did so many triangles in this diff, actually this circle pattern is something that I like
7. 00:33:945 (8,1) - swap rhtyhm since we need moar clickable + jump on stanza following vocals
8. 00:35:287 - add circle for following vocal here. for consistency with 00:25:287 - nice done
9. 00:41:750 (12) - add finish since it has quite faint cymbal here? you did it at gero's map masayume chasing (with lower volume) lol same as hard
10. 00:49:311 (11) - undermapped again here. you cant skip the drum at redticks like 00:49:555 - 00:50:043 - imo since their sound quite loud here. try http://puu.sh/cjl0M.jpg instead I can skip the drum, since I'm following the vocals not the instruments
11. 00:51:506 (4) - same as Hard
12. 00:53:701 (4) - add finish and swap NC. same as Hard same as hard
13. 01:04:433 (4) - just my taste but i prefer to move this circle to 376,296. consistent spacing in Insane feels boring imo a jump fest is also not funny, I tryed too add jumps where I feel the music ask me for
14. 01:05:165 (1,2) - swap the rhythm. you know already my reason to says this :C I also told you my reason for the current one
15. 01:07:116 (1,2) - ^
16. 01:09:067 (1,2) - ^
17. 01:13:213 (2) - give a jump for this circle please, it has cymbal sound so consistent spacing really makes me boring here I'll keep this for now, but I'll take this in mind
18. 01:14:311 - maybe add circle to follow the vocal here that's more like a echo than a vocal I think
19. 01:16:628 (6) - remove the repeat and add circle jump on stanza, we need to emphasize the cymbal here following vocals
20. 01:20:774 (7,1) - same as 01:05:165 (1,2) - same
21. 01:22:726 (8,1) - ^
22. 01:25:534 - add circle here? the music is quite loud. feel undermapped with 1/2 only here that will be bad.. that beats are really off timing T-T, that's why the 1/2 rhythm, I'll ask captin1 to check the timing
23. 01:31:173 (3) - add finish at head because cymbal~ done all
24. 01:33:125 (3) - ^
25. 01:35:076 (3) - ^
26. 01:35:686 (5) - move to 352,288, that 1,2 spacing feels kinda antijump here also you did 01:31:783 (5) - 1,5x spacing here so consistency is needed I'll think about this
27. 01:38:152 (7,8) - a little bit plain and boring too for me. i would like to make these circles have further spacing like http://puu.sh/cjlnT.jpg , they work nicely here if I do that I'll ruin the jump at 01:38:649 (1) - which is the one that fit the music IMO

well i'm really satisfied with this map. main reason because the stanza which mapped with tail or repeat since they dont give any sense for me.. i really strongly suggest to change them since i know you're typical mapper who usually do something like that..

When you fix the above and find 2-3 mods (since i'm sure they're several place to improve the map again) , feel free to poke me back

Setsurei wrote:

M4M (:

[Easy]
00:40:043 (3) - prefer this to blanket 00:39:067 (2) - 's tail
[Normal]
00:04:921 (3) - rotate this and move it to make 00:02:970 (1) - 's head in the middle of the body of (3)00:05:652 (4,5) - changing above, this one can be like this00:06:872 (1) - stack this on the 00:04:921 (3) - 's head if you all applied above keeping this for now, since can be a bit confused to play, but I'll try to improve the actual pattern
00:12:726 (3) - nazi, fix blanket done
00:28:335 (4) - I'm not sure about this slider is rankable or not, the path is kinda not clear, because the mid line is covered it is, since the slider way is clear, plus the ticks are visible
00:42:726 - add note I'll consider this, since I did this to avoid new players will get tired too much
00:49:311 (6) - fix blanket done
00:58:579 (4) - stack with 00:56:628 (5) - done
[Hard]
00:08:823 (1) - fix blanket okis
00:10:774 (6) - ^ I moved this one a bit
00:16:384 (5) - stack to 00:17:604 (3) - 's tail, might want to move them too 00:15:896 (3,4) - not noticeable in game and I kinda like how it is
00:22:482 (2) - make this slider end's at the edge of 00:20:530 (7) - (for a better understanding, I highligted slider (2)) I'll keep for now
00:36:140 (8) - fix blanket kk
00:48:579 (3,4,5) - prefer it to be claw pattern like 00:40:043 (1,2,3) - people will complain about that T-T
00:58:335 (4,8) - stack them sure
01:27:128 (2,3,4,5) - acute angle is kinda bad, prefer it to be obtuse angle like this 01:30:072 (5,6,7) - I'll consider this one, actually I did this to have a feeling of an old map,since is an old song xD
[Insane]
00:07:604 (2,3) - blanket, 00:07:848 (3) - might want to stack with 00:06:140 (7) - too about this one is not a blanket, is just like that. but I really like how the cursor move in my current way
00:33:945 (8) - blanket 00:33:701 (7,1) - sure

good luck![/color]