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Konuko - Toumei Elegy

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Xilver15
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CXu
Most of the kiai sections use about 2.5x as spacing, while the peak of the map have spacing at around 3.0x, and the final kiai having jumps that are slightly harder than the previous kiai's. I don't really think this is too much of a difficulty gap, and I can FC or 1xmiss on them fairly often (220bpm streams too hard). Also, the mapset has 3 extra difficulties; it should be fine to have one extremely challenging diff in the mapset. + Those jumps are fun.

Xilver wrote:

You bring up some good points, but to me there is a level where the map doesn't fit with the song anymore, even if all parts of the map are mapped with similar difficulty scale. Clearly you can't really map a 7 star map on a low BPM TV Size Anime OP, at least if you want it to be ranked, so there's some basic ratio between the song and its map. And while it doesn't apply for this map since it's not TV Size derp, I feel like the ratio still exists.
I bet Silynn probably did that at some point.
jesse1412

Xilver wrote:

Oh well, you know a lot more than me about how mapping works so there's really no point to debate here. We'll see how this map ends up being :)
Everything you said was totally correct until we got to here :( . I'm just a player, I'm the target demographic of the ranking criteria so I let my opinion out. We seem to have different views on how difficulty effects a map and it's relationship with the song and that's fine, I just hope we can respect the mappers opinion on such a subjective matter.
MEK
Unrank for difficulty spike is super inconsistent. Look at maps like Daidai Genome and Best FriendS which were ranked very recently.
Wishy
Map was perfect, difficulty peaks are to be expected on songs that have that kind of rhythm, as jesse says it's the peak of the song, it would feel just wrong if difficulty didn't go a lot higher.

If we go by this logic maps like IMAGE MATERIAL should be unranked because they have a huge difficulty spike on a single part. :ss

This kind of issues should not be addressed this way. Talking about the highest difficulty only, it caters to a very small percentage of the playerbase, FC wise probably less than 100/200 players, difficulty wise (getting few misses) probably to less than 1000. This kind of maps are what keep entertaining high skilled players. Personally I kind of played the map just because of that very hard part, loved it (it was even harder before the diff name got changed imo). Haven't played the updated version but if that whole part got nerfed and now is as hard as the rest of the map then it's kind of... plain boring really.

When you play "long" maps you do want difficulty spikes, otherwise it's extremely boring to play. Look at this Hayabi or whatever it's called this map with the Awoken Challenge difficulty. It gets A LOT harder towards the end as in that's the only part where you can miss but afaik it's fine and the map is ranked. Why doesn't this work that way here?
[Hello Goodbye]

Wishy wrote:

Map was perfect, difficulty peaks are to be expected on songs that have that kind of rhythm, as jesse says it's the peak of the song, it would feel just wrong if difficulty didn't go a lot higher.

If we go by this logic maps like IMAGE MATERIAL should be unranked because they have a huge difficulty spike on a single part. :ss

Done. Srsly, i hope u can rank it again.
Wishy
And what I think is worse is that the map wasn't actually THAT impossible. -_-
Lokovodo
RIP in peace my HDHR score on the super easy insane.

Edit: Also

Asphyxia wrote:

02:12:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - Please consider using at least some repeat sliders here, because this creates a huge difficulty spike to the difficulty itself, and making the gap from Hard > Insane also rather iffy.
Please make this suggestion happen on the "G's Insane" difficulty.
kouzuki_karen
rip

good luck for rerank
Paz
Gl for re-rank ~
Hyperspace
RIP rrtyui's score
Darkdog
Honestly this was one of the more fun maps I've played in a while. @OP If you're going for re-rank don't change it too much <3
Ringating
since it's unranked, this is a good time to improve the bg

the current res is nonstandard (1307x767), so anyone that plays at a res that is 768 vertically will experience slight upscaling interpolation, which is enough to kill the image's sharpness. plus the current image isn't as high quality as it could be (though that is a less major issue).

I found a higher quality version and manually cropped+resized it to 1366x768, and also gave it some light aesthetic touch-ups.no kds
Saoji

BAT wrote:

  1. 02:14:220 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - in Second Gonakanau creates a massive difficulty gap within the difficulty itself. You can compare both wkyikawa's Extra and Second Gonkanau from 02:14:220 - to 02:18:584 - , the gap is quite huge. Reducing the spacing to something more suitable is strongly recommended. We don't think it is appropriate in its current state.
Will follow the unfortunate ascertainment of living in a world of sheep frightened by the slightest disturbance of their standing vision of the standard.

(Well that was expected anyway)
Ganon

Asphyxia wrote:

G's Insane

[list]
[*]01:29:493 (1,1,1) - Consider changing this part visually, because right now it looks really cramped.
I see cramped stuff like this all the time. Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus mapped by grumd is a prime example. I don't see how it can be a problem here but not there.
Doxa
:cc gl for re-rank :cry:
[ Setsuna ]
rip gundam
Mafumafu

Asphyxia wrote:

Regraz's Normal

  1. 00:48:039 (3,4) - I would not stack these, because you already stacked 00:18:039 (4,5) - and having stacks that are rhythmically different may get a bit troublesome for beginners. Fixed
  2. 00:57:857 (1) - I find it more appealing if the slider was shaped more according to the example below, gives the slider more of a blanket-friendly shape:
    I dont think there's much difference.
  3. 01:01:130 (1,1) - Blanket could be better here. Also I dont think it affects gameplay much. When the latter slider appears, the former one is already fading out.
  4. 01:52:403 (1) - Same would apply to this slider as well, if you decided to make changes to the previous one.
  5. 03:07:675 (3) - This slider feels really weird, mainly because 03:07:948 - has such a strong beat. I'd advise you to change the rhythm to something more appropriate, so the strong beat gets emphasized.
    Yes, fixed.
Good luck re-qualifying this set! The BNG will handle it from now on and as always, if you have any questions, feel free to ask me!
Thank you very much!

To Awaken: Help me fix General things if you want to change :3. Thank you!

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353,33,80766,2,0,B|262:51|182:40|182:40|207:100,1,220
261,177,81584,1,8,0:0:0:0:
150,178,81857,6,0,P|109:191|31:180,1,110,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,84,82402,2,0,P|129:71|207:82,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
261,177,82948,2,0,B|251:307|251:307|272:335,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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249,169,85130,2,0,P|181:175|135:154,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
71,76,85675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
34,179,85948,1,8,0:0:0:0:
71,281,86220,6,0,P|91:332|3:332,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
171,326,87311,1,0,0:0:0:0:
35,24,88130,1,8,0:0:0:0:
139,57,88402,6,0,B|221:59|249:140|249:140|283:155|330:137,1,220
413,84,89220,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,182,89493,6,0,B|476:231|476:231|433:279|462:312|462:312|397:303|364:355|364:355|321:296|289:314,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,248,90584,6,0,P|215:172|147:111,2,165,4|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
133,323,91675,2,0,B|102:285|104:229|104:229|23:265,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,353,92766,6,0,B|382:356|382:356|408:336,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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346,134,94402,2,0,L|226:131,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,179,94948,6,0,P|67:203|44:118,2,165,4|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,122,96039,2,0,P|299:98|322:183,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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299,349,97675,2,0,L|293:238,1,110,8|8,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,183,98220,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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388,183,99039,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,282,99311,6,0,B|307:304|261:293|261:293|234:326|164:326,2,165,4|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,354,100402,2,0,P|446:313|441:236,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
366,174,100948,1,0,0:0:0:0:
417,77,101220,1,8,0:0:0:0:
313,40,101493,6,0,P|249:55|198:48,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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118,210,102584,2,0,B|171:235|171:235|180:329|269:350,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
363,318,103402,1,8,0:0:0:0:
293,233,103675,6,0,P|283:197|387:185,2,165,4|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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482,203,105311,2,0,P|465:149|478:94,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
377,47,105857,6,0,B|318:84|267:54|267:54|224:102|167:75|167:75|122:123|73:128,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
89,237,106948,2,0,P|101:300|78:352,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,149,107766,1,8,0:0:0:0:
213,245,108039,6,0,B|249:222|281:228|281:228|330:300|426:285,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,207,108857,1,8,0:0:0:0:
386,159,109130,2,0,P|364:88|396:47,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
301,229,109948,1,8,0:0:0:0:
209,169,110221,6,0,P|136:161|91:176,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
301,229,111039,1,8,0:0:0:0:
362,322,111312,2,0,P|425:341|487:323,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,232,111857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
478,136,112130,1,8,0:0:0:0:
406,53,112403,6,0,B|370:57|370:57|308:102|226:66|226:66|194:66,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
90,31,113221,1,8,0:0:0:0:
115,139,113494,2,0,P|103:193|116:250,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
211,195,114312,1,8,0:0:0:0:
296,266,114585,6,0,P|361:278|412:255,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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369,39,116494,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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226,313,117585,1,8,0:0:0:0:
156,230,117857,2,0,P|78:234|38:251,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,156,118676,1,8,0:0:0:0:
317,233,118948,6,0,P|395:237|435:254,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
238,156,119766,1,8,0:0:0:0:
145,99,120039,2,0,B|111:175|163:236|163:236|131:257|82:262,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
38,167,120857,1,8,0:0:0:0:
6,273,121130,6,0,B|18:346|98:352|98:352|143:344|186:327,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,278,121948,1,8,0:0:0:0:
374,336,122221,2,0,P|389:273|376:219,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
297,159,122766,2,0,P|282:96|295:42,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
399,29,123312,6,0,L|161:38,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,114,124130,1,8,0:0:0:0:
178,193,124403,2,0,P|189:262|164:307,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
255,114,125221,1,8,0:0:0:0:
350,168,125493,5,4,0:0:0:0:
67,72,142948,6,0,P|157:58|122:226,1,330,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,332,144039,2,0,P|220:303|312:121,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
202,135,145130,6,0,P|263:282|414:336,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,230,146221,2,0,P|307:110|445:76,1,330,0|8,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
474,181,147311,6,0,B|410:157|312:216|312:216|217:236|151:183,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,291,148402,2,0,B|225:357|342:324|342:324|397:334|452:358,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
481,250,149493,6,0,B|427:221|375:214|375:214|446:128|367:66|367:66|300:60,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
262,155,150584,2,0,P|200:177|143:167,2,110,0|8|8,0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
47,103,151675,6,0,B|129:157|96:284|96:284|143:327|235:295,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,303,152766,2,0,B|401:329|448:286|448:286|415:159|497:105,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,49,153857,6,0,P|225:100|90:45,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
47,148,154948,2,0,B|140:221|271:215|271:215|243:308,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,337,156039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,337,156857,5,8,0:0:0:0:
348,337,157130,2,0,B|351:248|465:227|465:227|481:135|396:88,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,70,158220,6,0,P|127:156|70:67,1,330,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,72,159311,2,0,P|175:189|82:224,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
70,333,160130,1,8,0:0:0:0:
65,124,162584,6,0,L|284:95,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
299,314,163675,2,0,L|80:343,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,228,164766,6,0,P|351:233|378:358,1,220
249,175,165857,2,0,P|167:170|140:45,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
354,72,166948,5,0,0:0:0:0:
354,72,167493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,237,168039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,237,168584,1,0,0:0:0:0:
79,58,169130,6,0,B|200:52|200:52|240:96|201:153,1,220
93,331,170220,1,4,0:0:0:0:
93,331,171311,6,0,P|96:263|17:190,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,354,172402,2,0,L|370:344,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,246,173493,6,0,P|157:162|94:105,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
274,294,174584,2,0,L|386:231,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,129,175130,2,0,L|258:66,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
179,131,175675,6,0,P|107:142|97:54,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
277,180,176766,2,0,B|280:312|280:312|242:350,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
369,120,177857,6,0,P|450:119|476:44,2,165,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,84,178948,1,0,0:0:0:0:
179,153,179220,2,0,P|98:173|51:160,2,110,8|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,84,180039,6,0,B|404:97|404:97|473:170,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,230,180857,1,8,0:0:0:0:
300,308,181130,2,0,P|354:336|411:337,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,209,181948,1,8,0:0:0:0:
186,298,182220,6,0,B|108:334|80:297|80:297|102:223|36:197,1,220,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,96,183039,1,8,0:0:0:0:
127,42,183311,2,0,L|248:45,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
199,148,183857,2,0,L|299:203,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,258,184402,6,0,P|322:251|357:361,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,346,185220,1,8,0:0:0:0:
507,250,185493,2,0,L|511:130,2,110,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,346,186311,1,8,0:0:0:0:
345,317,186584,6,0,P|269:296|224:309,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
129,296,187130,2,0,P|74:290|24:310,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
37,200,187675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
138,157,187948,2,0,P|196:160|255:173,1,110,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
349,210,188493,1,8,0:0:0:0:
442,268,188766,6,0,B|482:194|427:130|427:130|433:90|463:55,1,220,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,40,189584,1,8,0:0:0:0:
262,109,189857,2,0,P|188:109|148:69,1,110,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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102,339,191766,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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159,266,194766,1,0,0:0:0:0:
199,163,195039,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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265,81,196130,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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335,162,197220,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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231,138,198311,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Topic Starter
Awaken

Asphyxia wrote:

Reasons for Disqualification

  1. 02:05:766 (2) - in Extreme is off-screen. This issue explains itself and requires being fixed in order to get your map re-qualified.
    fixed
  2. 02:14:220 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - in Second Gonakanau creates a massive difficulty gap within the difficulty itself. You can compare both wkyikawa's Extra and Second Gonkanau from 02:14:220 - to 02:18:584 - , the gap is quite huge. Reducing the spacing to something more suitable is strongly recommended. We don't think it is appropriate in its current state. remapped this part.

Additional modding


General

  1. The combo colors 4 and 5 are too similar, they're really hard to distinguish from each other. Please consider changing one of them (possibly combo color 5) to something darker. Got 5 darker.
  2. Increasing the volume on every section by 10-15% wouldn't hurt at all, since the objects feel rather inaudible from time to time when the hitsounds are not dominate. ok increased.
Easy

  1. 00:33:857 (1) - Please don't ignore the stanza, it makes your earlier pattern (00:27:311 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) feel very inconsistent due to the stanza having such a similar sound to it. That being said, you could use a rhythm according to the example below, because it'd also follow the vocals better! mapped the stanza :3
  2. 01:20:220 (2) - Nicely done, I like the shape a lot! xD
  3. 01:29:493 (1) - Again, please don't let the slider end cover the stanza, since the stanza is again dominate enough for you to place a note there. done.
  4. 01:33:857 (1) - ^ and so on... hmm I'm following the vocal here.
  5. I liked the difficulty a lot, the only downside was that some of the important beats were covered by slider ends, where as you could have just placed a note there to emphasis certain a beat, pattern or even a part better.
Hard

  1. 00:20:766 (1,2) - Even though there's a small break between these sliders, the spacing still feels quite large. Consider reducing it please. reduced to make closer.
  2. 02:18:039 (3,1) - Same goes here, reducing the spacing would definitely make this difficulty more appropriate for the Hard players. fixed
  3. 02:56:766 (1) - The loop of this slider would definitely look more appealing if it would be symmetric, try this? fixed with another shape, hope it's symmetric :3
wkyikawa's Extra

  1. 01:21:857 (5) - Please put a new combo here, every difficulty has one except this. added

Good luck re-qualifying this set! The BNG will handle it from now on and as always, if you have any questions, feel free to ask me!
Thank you for advice! :3

@Ringating : Used the background! Thank you!!
Mei
幸亏我机智的玩了一周毛线岛,阿爷我开始干活了有事叫小的
Topic Starter
Awaken

Mei wrote:

幸亏我机智的玩了一周毛线岛,阿爷我开始干活了有事叫小的
跪谢妹总管
ehcuoT
por que hacen esta wea ctm que paja
Chupalika
oh my unranked
might as well point out that the offset is too late by 10ms
it's passable now~ (but it's harder by 0.02 stars what)
spboxer3
現在才發現居然有作透明哀歌阿
我很愛這首瘩
JappyBabes

jesus1412 wrote:

Alternatively, make the entire map harder to fix.
8* let's go
Athrun
Gl for re rank ;_;
xLolicore-
7.05* k den
Ciyus Miapah

JappyBabes wrote:

jesus1412 wrote:

Alternatively, make the entire map harder to fix.
8* let's go
>:D
Shizuyi
So why isnt it ranked anymore?
There maps out there which are ranked for like forever but should not at all..
eh - - -
The best for this map and further difficult maps would be to make some kind of pro player petition with signings to vote for extreme difficult maps.

The map has in current state received Full Combos , and close to it.

Harder maps for more awesome plays thanks ~

E: in 2 years people gonna anyways facepalm about the current code / calculation of map difficulty , hiding behind a bush wont do any progress
pishifat

2015-02-22 21:01 Awaken: Hello pishifat, do you have some time for requalification request now? :3
2015-02-22 21:03 pishifat: toumei elegy right
2015-02-22 21:03 pishifat: i wonder if i can even pass it
2015-02-22 21:03 Awaken: hmm yeah!
2015-02-22 21:04 Awaken: I've changed the crazy jumps pattern
2015-02-22 21:04 Awaken: It should be much easier to pass xD
2015-02-22 21:04 pishifat: i'll be the one to see that :P
2015-02-22 21:04 pishifat: i was able to pass the original one last night
2015-02-22 21:04 pishifat: with a super bad score
2015-02-22 21:07 Awaken: hah maybe due to OD9.3
2015-02-22 21:07 pishifat: well
2015-02-22 21:07 pishifat: idk what you did
2015-02-22 21:07 pishifat: but i was able to get through the jump part without dying
2015-02-22 21:07 pishifat: so that is good
2015-02-22 21:07 pishifat: died right after though lol
2015-02-22 21:09 Awaken: and I did made the jump flow much better, maybe players can play that jumps more comfortably :d
2015-02-22 21:20 pishifat: id say you did fix the issue then
2015-02-22 21:20 pishifat: cuz i can do it pretty consistently
2015-02-22 21:20 Awaken: really glad to hear that!
2015-02-22 21:22 Awaken: I think the pass rate of this version will be really much, like 30%? haha
2015-02-22 21:23 pishifat: lol i doubt it would ever be that high :P
2015-02-22 21:24 pishifat: haven't looked at the other diffs yet but some tiny things i wanted to question on this one first
2015-02-22 21:25 pishifat: 01:24:039 (3,4,1,1) - what's going on with the comboing on these
2015-02-22 21:26 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 21:26 Awaken: removed a new combo
2015-02-22 21:26 pishifat: mk
2015-02-22 21:27 pishifat: 00:07:675 (2) - was the almostblanket on these supposed to be like it is
2015-02-22 21:29 pishifat: and 02:36:039 (2) - like even a tiny bit higher would be better since it's under anyone's score meter
2015-02-22 21:30 Awaken: fixed both things :3
2015-02-22 21:33 Awaken: I was suddenly offine just now sorry
2015-02-22 21:34 pishifat: the only other thing that annoyed me was
2015-02-22 21:34 pishifat: the ignoring of the beat on 01:28:811 -
2015-02-22 21:34 pishifat: but then i see you also ignored it in the second instance of it at 01:37:539 -
2015-02-22 21:34 pishifat: so uhhhh i'll say it's fine
2015-02-22 21:35 pishifat: i got used to ignoring the beat and just following the vocal while playing anyway
2015-02-22 21:35 Awaken: yeah I prefer to follow the slow vocal here.
2015-02-22 21:35 pishifat: well i dunno how much longer you're planning on being online
2015-02-22 21:36 pishifat: but i'm so slow when checking things
2015-02-22 21:36 pishifat: so i'll probably just make a post about stuff
2015-02-22 21:36 Awaken: length wont be a problem
2015-02-22 21:36 Awaken: I can be online for a long time :3
2015-02-22 21:37 pishifat: well uh
2015-02-22 21:37 pishifat: first thign i notice in the next diff
2015-02-22 21:37 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/555965 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [wkyikawa's Couple Extra]]
2015-02-22 21:38 pishifat: combos for the first whole section are just
2015-02-22 21:38 pishifat: i don't understand the sense in them
2015-02-22 21:41 Awaken: hmm you mean this part? 00:01:130 - the break
2015-02-22 21:41 pishifat: yea
2015-02-22 21:41 pishifat: before the break
2015-02-22 21:41 pishifat: you've got your new combos on the 3rd measure of each 4 measures
2015-02-22 21:42 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/5849382a09744135c6afc1819254135d.png would make the most sense imo
2015-02-22 21:42 pishifat: would be approximately a new combo every 2 measurse
2015-02-22 21:42 pishifat: your slider at 00:07:130 (3) - kind of makes that impossible
2015-02-22 21:42 pishifat: but it's as close as things would get
2015-02-22 21:42 Awaken: okay I followed the vocal now.
2015-02-22 21:44 Awaken: something like this
2015-02-22 21:44 Awaken: http://puu.sh/g8XjV/0e8b6573f7.png
2015-02-22 21:45 pishifat: eh it's closer i'll accept it
2015-02-22 21:46 Awaken: yeah :3
2015-02-22 21:47 pishifat: i also just realized how similar your two grayish combo colors are
2015-02-22 21:47 pishifat: it's like they're almost the exact same
2015-02-22 21:48 pishifat: making 5 any amount darker would be better
2015-02-22 21:48 pishifat: combo color 5 that is
2015-02-22 21:49 Awaken: yes I've changed 5
2015-02-22 21:49 Awaken: see second gonkanau
2015-02-22 21:49 Awaken: I've changed all diffs to that
2015-02-22 21:50 pishifat: oh
2015-02-22 21:50 pishifat: well this diff's one is much ligher
2015-02-22 21:50 pishifat: i guess that's why i didnt notice it on the other one though lol
2015-02-22 21:50 pishifat: 00:21:720 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - comboing here also not understanding
2015-02-22 21:50 pishifat: secong gonkanau does it fine but this diff wat
2015-02-22 21:53 pishifat: and more comboing cuz it seems too obvious
2015-02-22 21:53 pishifat: 01:21:857 (1,1,2,1,2) - should be teh same as `00:27:311 (1,2,3,4,1,2) -
2015-02-22 21:54 pishifat: and relating to that, 01:22:948 - should have an object since the previous instance of this did
2015-02-22 21:54 pishifat: cuz consistency yeayeay
2015-02-22 21:55 pishifat: 01:37:130 (3,1) - would make sense with combos swapped
2015-02-22 21:57 Awaken: hmm I dont want to add an object here because I dislike to add things so quickly after jumps
2015-02-22 21:57 Awaken: others fixed
2015-02-22 21:57 pishifat: a whole measure
2015-02-22 21:57 pishifat: so quick lol
2015-02-22 21:58 pishifat: the other place had the same style of jumps right before it as well yet there's an object
2015-02-22 21:58 pishifat: so uh that doesnt make much sense
2015-02-22 21:58 Awaken: let me see
2015-02-22 22:00 pishifat: 01:52:266 (1) - if you were following vocals, combo should be on 01:52:130 (7) - and if following instrumental stuff, should be on 01:52:402 (3) -
2015-02-22 22:01 pishifat: if you go for the new combo on downbeat, same should be applied at 02:04:266 (1,3) -
2015-02-22 22:03 Awaken: ....hmm I like to add new combo on triplet head..
2015-02-22 22:04 pishifat: i won't force you so that's k
2015-02-22 22:04 Awaken: thanks QAQ
2015-02-22 22:07 pishifat: 00:48:039 (6,1) - right in my score meter :/
2015-02-22 22:07 pishifat: when there's a bunch of objects on the screen doesnt really matter
2015-02-22 22:07 pishifat: but they're literally the only things there
2015-02-22 22:08 Awaken: fixed that one
2015-02-22 22:11 pishifat: 02:40:402 - on hard and wkyik
2015-02-22 22:11 pishifat: why no break
2015-02-22 22:11 pishifat: easy also doesn't have it but approach rate is too low to do a proper break anyway
2015-02-22 22:12 Awaken: added
2015-02-22 22:13 Awaken: yes Easy diff..
2015-02-22 22:13 pishifat: easy diff is fine without a break
2015-02-22 22:13 pishifat: also wkyik part makes me so sad
2015-02-22 22:13 pishifat: no 1/4 circles :(
2015-02-22 22:14 Awaken: yea :D the challenge of 3/4 sliders
2015-02-22 22:14 pishifat: sliders
2015-02-22 22:14 pishifat: challenge
2015-02-22 22:14 pishifat: funny
2015-02-22 22:14 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/541392 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [Another]]
2015-02-22 22:14 pishifat: comboing in the beginning super gross
2015-02-22 22:15 pishifat: it's different than the other diff
2015-02-22 22:15 pishifat: and still gross :/
2015-02-22 22:15 pishifat: just doing 2 measure comboing would be fine
2015-02-22 22:16 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 22:16 pishifat: also unrelated
2015-02-22 22:16 pishifat: your map description still says extreme instead of another
2015-02-22 22:18 Awaken: extreme is a bit weird imo, I only saw it in someting like jubeat ;w;
2015-02-22 22:19 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/971ba8682d0ec164eb56c7a8966f69ca.png ;-;
2015-02-22 22:19 pishifat: 00:22:402 (1,3) - new combos should be swapped
2015-02-22 22:19 pishifat: actually no
2015-02-22 22:19 pishifat: ignoreme
2015-02-22 22:20 Awaken: ><
2015-02-22 22:20 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 22:20 pishifat: lol
2015-02-22 22:20 pishifat: well it works both ways
2015-02-22 22:20 pishifat: 00:25:130 (5) - should have a new combo tho
2015-02-22 22:21 Awaken: so I can keep another..?
2015-02-22 22:21 Awaken: ;w;
2015-02-22 22:21 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 22:21 pishifat: diff name is fine lol
2015-02-22 22:21 Awaken: okay lwl
2015-02-22 22:21 pishifat: 00:51:311 (4) - should have a new combo too
2015-02-22 22:22 pishifat: and 00:54:311 (1) - single object combo why
2015-02-22 22:23 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 22:24 pishifat: 01:57:584 (1) - same one object combo
2015-02-22 22:25 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 22:25 pishifat: comboing is so much fun
2015-02-22 22:25 pishifat: 02:14:357 (5) - should have a newcombo
2015-02-22 22:26 pishifat: 02:18:584 (5) - as well
2015-02-22 22:26 pishifat: and 02:19:811 (8) - ...
2015-02-22 22:27 Awaken: ;w;...fiiixed
2015-02-22 22:27 pishifat: 02:53:493 (3) - would also make more sense with a new combo
2015-02-22 22:29 Awaken: added
2015-02-22 22:35 pishifat: so why is this diff
2015-02-22 22:35 pishifat: the only one that has a new combo on 02:44:766 (1) -
2015-02-22 22:35 pishifat: tbh it makes sense to have one there
2015-02-22 22:35 pishifat: so adding one on the other diffs = better than removing it here
2015-02-22 22:37 Awaken: hmm I think stakcing circles dont need to add NC like that, so removed ;w;
2015-02-22 22:38 pishifat: mk
2015-02-22 22:41 pishifat: 03:04:266 (1,3) - so i know you want to start nc on the triple
2015-02-22 22:41 pishifat: but 00:57:720 (2,3,1) - is the exact same thing
2015-02-22 22:41 pishifat: without nc on the triple ._.
2015-02-22 22:42 Awaken: removed the NC here o3o
2015-02-22 22:48 pishifat: did this G person allow you to change any minor stuff on their diff
2015-02-22 22:48 Awaken: Mapper is online now :3
2015-02-22 22:48 pishifat: oh sweet
2015-02-22 22:48 pishifat: uh
2015-02-22 22:48 pishifat: who is G lol
2015-02-22 22:48 Awaken: @Evil_Twilight
2015-02-22 22:49 pishifat: evil_twilight = G
2015-02-22 22:49 pishifat: i wont question it ok
2015-02-22 22:49 Awaken: yes
2015-02-22 22:49 Awaken: :D that's fun
2015-02-22 23:02 Awaken: are you going to post things to the forum about the guest diffs? :o
2015-02-22 23:02 pishifat: was just looking through everything before messaging him about it
2015-02-22 23:03 Awaken: hmm okay :D
2015-02-22 23:11 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/637625 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [Hard]]
2015-02-22 23:11 pishifat: 00:05:493 (1) - 00:07:675 (1) - should have their own new combos
2015-02-22 23:12 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 23:14 pishifat: 00:21:720 (3,4) - this kind of flow for a hard super sketchy
2015-02-22 23:14 pishifat: cuz people who play hards will follow the reverse on 3 as it is instead of just like holding it
2015-02-22 23:14 pishifat: so it's super back and forth action stuff which plays not too great
2015-02-22 23:15 pishifat: doing like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2813248 would be fine
2015-02-22 23:18 pishifat: i didn't notice til now
2015-02-22 23:18 pishifat: but like all the diffs combo 00:53:220 (1,2) - differently
2015-02-22 23:18 pishifat: so making them the same = good
2015-02-22 23:18 pishifat: the way the 7 star diff does it seems best imo
2015-02-22 23:19 Awaken: okay
2015-02-22 23:19 Awaken: added new combo
2015-02-22 23:20 pishifat: 00:58:948 (5) - should also have a new combo...
2015-02-22 23:21 pishifat: and 00:59:493 (1,3) - should swap new combos
2015-02-22 23:21 pishifat: 01:02:084 (1,2) - as well
2015-02-22 23:21 pishifat: 01:04:402 (5) - ..and this should have a new combo
2015-02-22 23:21 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 23:21 pishifat: 01:07:675 (5) - samethingggg
2015-02-22 23:22 Awaken: fixed ;w;
2015-02-22 23:23 pishifat: 01:20:902 (4,1) - should swap ncs
2015-02-22 23:23 pishifat: 01:24:039 (2) - shoudl have a new combo
2015-02-22 23:23 Awaken: 00:21:720 (3,4,5) - this is a little hard to change
2015-02-22 23:23 pishifat: how so
2015-02-22 23:23 Awaken: fixed both
2015-02-22 23:24 Awaken: hard to change it to a very beautiful pattern
2015-02-22 23:24 Awaken: also with good DS and flow
2015-02-22 23:25 pishifat: mk
2015-02-22 23:25 pishifat: 01:53:493 (5) - should have a nc
2015-02-22 23:25 pishifat: 01:54:039 (1,3) - shoudl swap
2015-02-22 23:25 pishifat: new combos are hard stuff
2015-02-22 23:25 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 23:26 pishifat: 02:02:220 (5) - new 02:02:766 (1,3) - swap
2015-02-22 23:26 Awaken: fixed all
2015-02-22 23:27 pishifat: 02:15:584 (4,1,2,3) - http://i.gyazo.com/e06e2d33af28e51cae1fd4f9882710e2.png comboz
2015-02-22 23:28 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 23:29 pishifat: 02:36:039 (3,1) - should swap combos
2015-02-22 23:29 pishifat: i really dont even know how you do this stuff
2015-02-22 23:29 pishifat: map is great
2015-02-22 23:29 pishifat: combos are poo
2015-02-22 23:29 Awaken: added NC both circles
2015-02-22 23:29 Awaken: combo is really so sad;w;
2015-02-22 23:31 pishifat: 02:53:493 (3) - probably should new combo
2015-02-22 23:32 pishifat: 02:56:766 (1,2,3) - would work way better if you actually clicked on each vocal
2015-02-22 23:32 pishifat: cuz slider tail no impact blahbalh
2015-02-22 23:33 Awaken: 02:53:493 (3) - adding a new combo here makes me feel not that beautiful ;w;
2015-02-22 23:33 pishifat: scaling the slider so it ends on the downbeat at 02:58:948 - then adding a circle https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2813276
2015-02-22 23:33 pishifat: lol
2015-02-22 23:33 pishifat: well it's no big deal so go ahead and keep that
2015-02-22 23:34 Awaken: ok I will try ;_; Getting a symmetrical slider is really too hard ;_;
2015-02-22 23:35 pishifat: just do ctrl+shift+s on the slider
2015-02-22 23:35 pishifat: easy
2015-02-22 23:36 Awaken: ok done
2015-02-22 23:36 Awaken: and removed the circles
2015-02-22 23:36 Awaken: it's the initial rhythm
2015-02-22 23:37 pishifat: wait removed the circles
2015-02-22 23:37 pishifat: puush what you did or something cuz i'm not getting it
2015-02-22 23:38 Awaken: http://puu.sh/g92QA/477cdc30f2.png
2015-02-22 23:38 pishifat: oh
2015-02-22 23:38 pishifat: well cool that works
2015-02-22 23:39 Awaken: xDD
2015-02-22 23:42 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545783 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [Easy]]
2015-02-22 23:42 pishifat: 01:20:220 (2) - new combo ;;
2015-02-22 23:43 Awaken: done
2015-02-22 23:45 pishifat: 02:03:311 (2) - should have a new combo... but three one object combos in a row is pretty stupid
2015-02-22 23:45 pishifat: so turning 02:00:584 (2) - into two circles like http://i.gyazo.com/3fe6dcb1ed94c8b7cbf781cf0c66df35.png
2015-02-22 23:45 pishifat: would work
2015-02-22 23:46 pishifat: and 02:21:311 (3,1) - shoudl swap new combos
2015-02-22 23:46 Awaken: done
2015-02-22 23:46 pishifat: 02:37:130 (2) - should have a nc
2015-02-22 23:46 pishifat: 02:38:220 (1) - spinner should end 1/2 earlier
2015-02-22 23:46 Awaken: 02:21:857 (1) - hmm it's a new vocal here
2015-02-22 23:47 Awaken: so I'd love to keep this
2015-02-22 23:47 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-22 23:47 pishifat: that's fine then
2015-02-22 23:48 pishifat: your rhythms at 02:42:584 (1) -
2015-02-22 23:48 pishifat: make proper comboing impossible ;-;
2015-02-22 23:48 pishifat: so just leave them as it is
2015-02-22 23:48 Awaken: ;w;
2015-02-22 23:48 pishifat: easy diffs are stupid
2015-02-22 23:50 Awaken: 02:45:857 (1) - this touched something?
2015-02-22 23:50 pishifat: what you mean
2015-02-22 23:51 Awaken: xD i mean "is it off-screen?"
2015-02-22 23:52 pishifat: oh
2015-02-22 23:52 pishifat: nah lol
2015-02-22 23:52 pishifat: and thinking about it more
2015-02-22 23:52 pishifat: i'm thinking these sliders that break possible comboing
2015-02-22 23:53 pishifat: are what asphyxia was referring to when he was talking weird rhythms
2015-02-22 23:53 pishifat: in the dq post
2015-02-22 23:53 pishifat: cuz you know how songs are divided into like 4 measure phrases or something like that
2015-02-22 23:54 pishifat: you're completely ignoring that with this thing 02:33:857 (1) -
2015-02-22 23:54 pishifat: basically http://i.gyazo.com/275467c059c7e68312583e1f83fad383.png is better
2015-02-22 23:54 pishifat: with getting rid of the reverse
2015-02-22 23:55 pishifat: then the reverse of 02:45:857 (1) - would also be the start of a new phrase
2015-02-22 23:56 pishifat: making it better to have something start there instead of just continuing the previous rhythm
2015-02-22 23:56 pishifat: i explained that terribly do you understand anything
2015-02-22 23:58 Awaken: let me see slowly ;w;
2015-02-22 23:58 pishifat: um does that mean
2015-02-22 23:58 pishifat: you want me to explain better lol
2015-02-22 23:58 Awaken: yes ;w;
2015-02-22 23:59 pishifat: okay so
2015-02-22 23:59 Awaken: maybe give me more pictures
2015-02-23 00:00 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/48b19e9cf6695a1e06c7551af8787339.png
2015-02-23 00:00 pishifat: every 4 big white ticks
2015-02-23 00:00 pishifat: = important
2015-02-23 00:01 Awaken: will it be too hard?
2015-02-23 00:01 pishifat: 02:54:584 (1) - for example, reverse on here would be where that 2nd new combo in my picture was
2015-02-23 00:01 pishifat: you need to have a clickable object there
2015-02-23 00:02 pishifat: or at least not a reverse
2015-02-23 00:02 pishifat: anything but a reverse ;-;
2015-02-23 00:02 pishifat: ideally you'd want 02:42:584 (1) - to look something like http://i.gyazo.com/73dd11950a6f6c688c93436245f20cf1.png
2015-02-23 00:03 pishifat: that 2nd new combo being the same position as the 2nd new combo in my first image
2015-02-23 00:03 pishifat: right now your rhythms make literally no sense
2015-02-23 00:03 pishifat: they hit the right ticks but with the wrong points of emphasis
2015-02-23 00:09 pishifat: so uh what's going on
2015-02-23 00:10 Awaken: ok
2015-02-23 00:10 Awaken: changed to something, I dont know if it's what you think..
2015-02-23 00:11 pishifat: update and let me see
2015-02-23 00:13 Awaken: done
2015-02-23 00:13 pishifat: it's perfect
2015-02-23 00:13 pishifat: repeat that same rhythm at 02:51:311 (1) - as well and you're golden
2015-02-23 00:15 pishifat: also 02:33:857 (1) - should have its repeat removed and a circle added instead
2015-02-23 00:15 pishifat: for the same reasoning as waht you're changing now
2015-02-23 00:20 pishifat: looking at more stuff on this diff
2015-02-23 00:21 pishifat: cant believe i missed some of this
2015-02-23 00:21 pishifat: whenever you're done with what you're doing tell me
2015-02-23 00:21 Awaken: o....k, everything done
2015-02-23 00:22 pishifat: so...this is a big thing
2015-02-23 00:22 Awaken: anything else?
2015-02-23 00:23 pishifat: yesyesyes
2015-02-23 00:23 pishifat: so 00:27:311 (1) - 01:21:857 -
2015-02-23 00:23 pishifat: the sections here
2015-02-23 00:23 pishifat: are the exact same thing
2015-02-23 00:23 pishifat: yet you're mapping them completely differently
2015-02-23 00:24 Awaken: okay, get this part empty.
2015-02-23 00:24 pishifat: uh this is on the easy
2015-02-23 00:24 pishifat: not another ._.
2015-02-23 00:26 Awaken: what's the problem here ;w;
2015-02-23 00:26 pishifat: same music, different things mapped
2015-02-23 00:27 pishifat: 00:27:311 (1) - maps to the isntrumental thing
2015-02-23 00:27 Awaken: ok
2015-02-23 00:27 pishifat: 01:22:948 (1) - maps to the offbeat thing
2015-02-23 00:28 pishifat: easiest way to fix ti would be
2015-02-23 00:28 pishifat: 00:27:311 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - use the same rhythm as 01:22:948 (1,1,1,2,1) -
2015-02-23 00:28 pishifat: well, covering the same ticks at least
2015-02-23 00:28 pishifat: or the opposite if you really wanted to
2015-02-23 00:31 Awaken: okok
2015-02-23 00:32 Awaken: wait,
2015-02-23 00:32 Awaken: I found that..00:39:311 (1) - I used the rhythm here already, so maybe it's okay to keep..?
2015-02-23 00:34 pishifat: um that part's not the issue
2015-02-23 00:35 pishifat: it's more that 00:27:311 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - follows something different from 00:36:039 (1,2,1,1,2) - 01:22:948 (1,1,1,2,1) - 01:30:584 (1,2,3,1,2,1) -
2015-02-23 00:36 Awaken: fixed 00:27:311 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this
2015-02-23 00:36 pishifat: coooooooooooool
2015-02-23 00:36 pishifat: the last thing with the emphasis problem
2015-02-23 00:36 pishifat: would be 03:16:402 (2) -
2015-02-23 00:37 pishifat: ending it on that big white tick = :(
2015-02-23 00:37 pishifat: just shortening it so it'/s l ike 03:12:039 (2) - 03:09:857 (2) - etc
2015-02-23 00:37 pishifat: would work http://i.gyazo.com/18dba9181be59b2d23fb5a54c7aae14b.png
2015-02-23 00:38 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-23 00:39 pishifat: and unrelated
2015-02-23 00:39 pishifat: i thought on
2015-02-23 00:39 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/633507 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [Second Gonkanau]]
2015-02-23 00:39 pishifat: i said to move 02:49:675 (2) - up :(
2015-02-23 00:39 pishifat: or maybe that was a different object i dont remember anymore
2015-02-23 00:39 pishifat: either way this one = same deal
2015-02-23 00:41 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-23 00:42 pishifat: uh 00:46:402 (3,2) - in the normal gd
2015-02-23 00:42 pishifat: like 99% sure that's unrankable
2015-02-23 00:43 Awaken: wow that must be
2015-02-23 00:43 Awaken: Normal mapper is online too, maybe talk to him :33
2015-02-23 00:44 pishifat: will do once i scan the map
2015-02-23 00:46 Awaken: ok
2015-02-23 00:48 pishifat: also on your easy
2015-02-23 00:48 pishifat: green line at 00:01:130 - should be removed
2015-02-23 00:48 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/9033f64a784f4e70601b4dfa1f477acd.png
2015-02-23 00:48 pishifat: "" - ranking criteria
2015-02-23 00:50 Awaken: done
2015-02-23 00:53 pishifat: so did evil_twilight give you his diff
2015-02-23 00:54 Awaken: yes
2015-02-23 00:54 pishifat: k
2015-02-23 00:54 pishifat: that should be it for stuff on individual diffs finally
2015-02-23 00:54 pishifat: i'll look at general stuff and tell you if there are any issues
2015-02-23 00:55 pishifat: well actually
2015-02-23 00:55 pishifat: update with regraz's difficulty first
2015-02-23 00:55 pishifat: then i'll look at that stuff
2015-02-23 01:01 pishifat: so where exactly did you confirm your metadata
2015-02-23 01:03 Awaken: yes it was confirmed by captin
2015-02-23 01:03 Awaken: updated
2015-02-23 01:04 pishifat: oh yea
2015-02-23 01:04 pishifat: i see the post k
2015-02-23 01:06 pishifat: looks like normal-hitclap.wav is unused
2015-02-23 01:08 Awaken: yeah I changed the hitsound pattern
2015-02-23 01:09 Awaken: normal-hitwhistle.wav is unused either, right?
2015-02-23 01:09 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/06e50cf3788c620f175841b0dc2fdcee.png
2015-02-23 01:09 pishifat: it's used somewhere
2015-02-23 01:09 pishifat: if you don't know where then that may be a problem lol
2015-02-23 01:10 Awaken: ok
2015-02-23 01:10 pishifat: the gray on G's insane
2015-02-23 01:10 Awaken: I know where
2015-02-23 01:10 pishifat: is also not dark like the others
2015-02-23 01:11 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-23 01:12 pishifat: second kiai time on gonkanau
2015-02-23 01:12 pishifat: is longer than the others
2015-02-23 01:12 Awaken: I'll updated without normal-hitwhistle.wav
2015-02-23 01:12 pishifat: you can't really do that :(
2015-02-23 01:12 pishifat: mmmk
2015-02-23 01:12 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-23 01:12 Awaken: it should appear in second diff
2015-02-23 01:12 Awaken: second gonkanau diff
2015-02-23 01:13 Awaken: and there isnt n:c1 now in all fidds
2015-02-23 01:13 Awaken: diffs
2015-02-23 01:13 pishifat: 02:18:584 (1) - why is this snapped on 1/3 ._.
2015-02-23 01:13 pishifat: nevermind
2015-02-23 01:13 pishifat: what am i saying
2015-02-23 01:14 pishifat: un-nevermind
2015-02-23 01:15 pishifat: so was that supposed to be on 1/3 or what
2015-02-23 01:15 Awaken: wow you're really careful
2015-02-23 01:16 pishifat: i told you i am slow when we started ;-;
2015-02-23 01:17 Awaken: good :D
2015-02-23 01:27 Awaken: I'm offine..for a long time ;w;
2015-02-23 01:27 pishifat: wait wut
2015-02-23 01:28 pishifat: well uh anyway
2015-02-23 01:28 pishifat: http://puu.sh/g96wN/57af425a65.wav soft-hitfinish3.wav without the 4ms delay
2015-02-23 01:29 pishifat: http://puu.sh/g96DH/460390c2b6.wav soft-hitnormal.wav without the unnecessary +1 second of empty space after the sound
2015-02-23 01:30 Awaken: done
2015-02-23 01:43 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/541392 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [Another]]
2015-02-23 01:43 pishifat: comboing in this intro
2015-02-23 01:43 pishifat: still complete nonsense
2015-02-23 01:44 pishifat: two one bar combos
2015-02-23 01:44 pishifat: then two 3 bar combos
2015-02-23 01:44 pishifat: 00:05:493 (6) - add 00:06:584 (1) - remove 00:07:675 (2) - add
2015-02-23 01:44 pishifat: and it's acceptable
2015-02-23 01:45 Awaken: all fone
2015-02-23 01:45 Awaken: done
2015-02-23 01:45 pishifat: 00:24:039 (6) - needs to be added
2015-02-23 01:45 pishifat: i said all of these before i'm pretty sure ._.
2015-02-23 01:47 pishifat: i guess the one at 00:57:311 (1,4) - was a misinterpretation
2015-02-23 01:47 pishifat: cuz combos tehre should be swapped
2015-02-23 01:47 pishifat: if you wanted to start it on the triple then do that, but the way it is now is just wrong
2015-02-23 01:47 Awaken: 00:24:039 (6) - I think this doesnt need to add nc..
2015-02-23 01:48 Awaken: because 00:24:584 (1) - new vocal starts here
2015-02-23 01:49 pishifat: all i'm seeing is a 2 bar combo in a section where you're using one bar comboing
2015-02-23 01:49 Awaken: hmm ok
2015-02-23 01:56 pishifat: i must have ignored comboing here when paying attention to that reverse sliderr
2015-02-23 01:56 pishifat: 00:20:766 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2015-02-23 01:56 pishifat: should be split into 4 combos instead of 2 since you've got 1 bar comboing everywhere
2015-02-23 01:57 pishifat: and 00:58:948 (5) - should have one as well :L
2015-02-23 01:58 pishifat: fuck combos
2015-02-23 01:58 pishifat: 01:53:493 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - should be three combos instead of 2 for same reasoning
2015-02-23 01:59 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-23 02:10 pishifat: so uh
2015-02-23 02:10 pishifat: regraz offline
2015-02-23 02:10 pishifat: and his hitsounds make no sense
2015-02-23 02:10 pishifat: in 00:33:857 (1) - 00:08:766 (2,3,4) -00:04:402 (2) - 00:36:039 (1) - 00:37:130 (3) - 00:39:311 (2) - 00:42:584 (1) - 00:45:857 (2) - 00:46:948 (1) - 00:46:402 (3) - 00:50:493 (2) - 00:53:220 (2) - 01:14:220 (2) - 01:18:584 (2) - 01:21:857 (1) - 01:25:130 (2) - 01:25:948 (4) - 01:28:130 (3) - 01:29:493 (1) - 01:33:857 (2) - 01:37:130 (1) - 02:54:584 (2) - 02:59:220 (3) -
2015-02-23 02:10 pishifat: all of those places
2015-02-23 02:10 Awaken: I'll call him, wait a minute :3
2015-02-23 02:10 pishifat: lolk
2015-02-23 02:12 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/545783 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [Easy]]
2015-02-23 02:12 pishifat: 00:28:402 (2,1) -
2015-02-23 02:12 pishifat: spacing is not acceptable
2015-02-23 02:13 pishifat: there was a map disqualified for this exact thing recently lol
2015-02-23 02:14 Awaken: fixed
2015-02-23 02:15 Awaken: it's 1.00x now :3
2015-02-23 02:15 pishifat: gud
2015-02-23 02:16 Awaken: Regraz is online now :D
2015-02-23 02:16 pishifat: mk
2015-02-23 02:16 pishifat: also 03:00:039 (1,2) -
2015-02-23 02:16 pishifat: what did you do ;-;
2015-02-23 02:17 Awaken: is it unacceptable ;w;?
2015-02-23 02:17 pishifat: i mean
2015-02-23 02:17 pishifat: it was blanketted better before
2015-02-23 02:17 pishifat: now it's just a mess
2015-02-23 02:18 Awaken: lol I just moved the slider
2015-02-23 02:18 Awaken: okay fixed
2015-02-23 02:30 pishifat: if regraz doesn't go faster i'm gonna have to bubble tomorrow
2015-02-23 02:30 pishifat: so punch him or something
2015-02-23 02:31 Awaken: ok let me punch him
2015-02-23 02:31 pishifat: ty
2015-02-23 02:32 Awaken: anything else except normal? :3
2015-02-23 02:33 pishifat: nah
2015-02-23 02:33 pishifat: that's it
2015-02-23 02:33 pishifat: if you could update right now that woudl be good
2015-02-23 02:33 Awaken: okay!
2015-02-23 02:33 pishifat: so i can just be like 300% sure before checking regraz's diff
2015-02-23 02:34 Awaken: haha updated :D
2015-02-23 02:34 pishifat: every time i refresh your map page
2015-02-23 02:34 pishifat: there's more favorites
2015-02-23 02:34 pishifat: damn
2015-02-23 02:35 Awaken: xD that must be due to this amazing song
2015-02-23 02:42 pishifat: 02:03:311 (1) - 03:17:493 (3) - should be consistent
2015-02-23 02:43 pishifat: i dont even care
2015-02-23 02:43 pishifat: just no new combo on both or new combo on btoh
2015-02-23 02:43 pishifat: this is on easy woops
2015-02-23 02:44 Awaken: I prefer new combo both
2015-02-23 02:44 pishifat: mk
2015-02-23 02:44 pishifat: did regraz finish?
2015-02-23 02:45 Awaken: yes
2015-02-23 02:45 Awaken: I'll update now
2015-02-23 02:45 pishifat: k
2015-02-23 02:46 Awaken: done
2015-02-23 02:50 pishifat: regraz is being dead
2015-02-23 02:50 pishifat: or not
2015-02-23 02:50 Awaken: not haha
2015-02-23 02:54 pishifat: whenever regraz fixes that other thing and sends it to you
2015-02-23 02:54 pishifat: it's bub time
2015-02-23 02:56 Awaken: 02:34:948 (2) - get this addition to Drum? :3
2015-02-23 02:56 pishifat: yea
2015-02-23 02:58 Awaken: ok updated.

2015-02-22 23:05 pishifat: so i'm rebubbling toumei elegy for awaken
2015-02-22 23:05 pishifat: some tiny things on your diff
2015-02-22 23:05 pishifat: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/637623 Konuko - Toumei Elegy [G's Insane]]
2015-02-22 23:05 Evil_Twilight: o.O
2015-02-22 23:05 Evil_Twilight: kk
2015-02-22 23:05 pishifat: 01:22:948 (3) -
2015-02-22 23:06 pishifat: pretty sure you dont need the hitsound there
2015-02-22 23:06 pishifat: on the tail
2015-02-22 23:06 pishifat: consistency with 00:28:402 (3) -
2015-02-22 23:06 pishifat: if it's for the guitar thing, using a hitsound that's different from your snare hitsound is better
2015-02-22 23:07 Evil_Twilight: ok fixed
2015-02-22 23:08 pishifat: 02:06:448 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - comboing around here
2015-02-22 23:08 pishifat: would make way more sense with new combos on 02:06:448 (1) - 02:07:130 (1) -
2015-02-22 23:08 pishifat: like http://i.gyazo.com/2bcb75d6fdb4f652e23e3936d48fe3e7.png
2015-02-22 23:09 pishifat: 01:13:130 (4) - should also have its own new combo
2015-02-22 23:09 pishifat: as well as 01:41:493 (3) -
2015-02-22 23:09 pishifat: 00:45:584 (3,4) - would just look better if overlapped the same amount as 00:44:766 (1,2) - http://i.gyazo.com/a9556763f07f9c9efddff3e44da4602b.png
2015-02-22 23:12 Evil_Twilight: ok

2015-02-23 00:49 pishifat: heyyyyyyyyyy
2015-02-23 00:49 pishifat: so
2015-02-23 00:49 Regraz: Hai!
2015-02-23 00:49 pishifat: 01:55:676 (3) - would make sense to increase the volume here
2015-02-23 00:50 pishifat: made sense at 01:01:130 (1) - cuz song goes silent
2015-02-23 00:50 pishifat: but during the second kiai it doesn't do that :(
2015-02-23 00:51 pishifat: also your first green line at 00:01:130 - should be removed
2015-02-23 00:51 pishifat: http://i.gyazo.com/9033f64a784f4e70601b4dfa1f477acd.png - ranking criteria
2015-02-23 00:51 Regraz: Yes, I will fix that
2015-02-23 00:51 Regraz: I see
2015-02-23 00:51 Regraz: OK
2015-02-23 00:51 pishifat: same would go for 03:07:948 - kind of
2015-02-23 00:51 pishifat: quieter on 3 is fine
2015-02-23 00:51 pishifat: but on 4 volume should increase
2015-02-23 00:52 Regraz: OK
2015-02-23 00:52 pishifat: and 01:01:130 (1) - would be 10000x better to use the same rhythm as 03:07:675 (3,4,5) - cuz you're skipping out on that blast of a beat in the middle of the slider
2015-02-23 00:52 pishifat: and that's all
2015-02-23 00:53 Regraz: OK
2015-02-23 00:53 Regraz: Thank you for your help!
2015-02-23 00:54 pishifat: whenever you're done send it over to awaken :p
2015-02-23 00:54 Regraz: Yes
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: eyyy
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: so
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: i looked at your hitsounding a bit
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: and you've got a lot of unnecessary claps
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: just places where there's no drum hit or anything in the music
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: yet you've got claps still
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: 00:33:857 (1) - 00:08:766 (2,3,4) -00:04:402 (2) - 00:36:039 (1) - 00:37:130 (3) - 00:39:311 (2) - 00:42:584 (1) - 00:45:857 (2) - 00:46:948 (1) - 00:46:402 (3) - 00:50:493 (2) - 00:53:220 (2) - 01:14:220 (2) - 01:18:584 (2) - 01:21:857 (1) - 01:25:130 (2) - 01:25:948 (4) - 01:28:130 (3) - 01:29:493 (1) - 01:33:857 (2) - 01:37:130 (1) - 02:54:584 (2) - 02:59:220 (3) -
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: all of those places
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: should have claps removed
2015-02-23 02:18 pishifat: 02:34:948 (2) - should have drum addition like 02:26:221 (2) -
2015-02-23 02:19 Regraz: Hmm
2015-02-23 02:19 Regraz: Ok I will check it one by one
2015-02-23 02:47 pishifat: so did you decide not to apply any of them
2015-02-23 02:47 pishifat: so i dont have to check each one myself
2015-02-23 02:49 pishifat: or i'll check them all myself that's cool
2015-02-23 02:49 pishifat: waht is sleep anyway
2015-02-23 02:50 Regraz: Hmm the last one, drum addition. I think I'd keep my current one since there's no drum sounds in the background..
2015-02-23 02:50 pishifat: you sure
2015-02-23 02:51 pishifat: cuz it is literally the same as 02:26:221 (2) -
2015-02-23 02:52 Regraz: OK
2015-02-23 02:52 Regraz: I'll fix that
2015-02-23 02:52 pishifat: u the best
2015-02-23 02:53 Regraz: :3

ok

super difficulty spike may have higher star rating, but it is truly easier. i dont even know how to play this game and i can pass it consistently now, whereas i could only pass the old jumps if i made a human sacrifice beforehand

also you're welcome yauxo
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Awaken
thank you :3
Pho
Ntasuto
HI. Why no video T^T

Here, i made one for you :3
https://www.mediafire.com/?ri3auoohkt6qit1

Video Offset should be around: -43
zCrItIcAlZ
It Got Unranked :( Why :(
Akainu
Unranked? Hmm, causes?
pw384

Krivolapka wrote:

Unranked? Hmm, causes?

zCrItIcAlZ wrote:

It Got Unranked :( Why :(
The map is on its way to getting reranked. Keep patient plz :D
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ok
Timorisu
(Not quite) Reranked in about a day, meanwhile my maps are rotting for months.

I should map animu ffs
dornrjqnrdl
RIP
I'm sorry to unrank (x_x)
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