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Nekomata Master - Avalon no oka [CatchTheBeat]

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Xinely
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combo 1 and combo 2 are too similar and hard to can know the different in gameplay, considering make one of them darker


  • Salad
  1. 00:06:005 (1) - the spacing is too low, consider move to x:416
  2. actually i feel your normal spacing is too low here, comparing with big size of fruit, they look not really neat and feel not really challenging in 1/3 (i dont say about your dashes but non dashes ones xD), example 00:06:259 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/i78hi.jpg 00:07:524 (5,6) - http://puu.sh/i78ZX.jpg 00:12:081 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/i79qF.jpg and so on for similar spacings, they are in whole diff and i'm human so i cant tell them all in this mod lol
  3. also this part for mentioning time which suitable for me to add dashes, 00:12:081 - 00:18:157 - (definitely crash cymbal so it emphasize much better with higher spacing like dash) 00:21:195 - 00:23:094 - 00:25:752 - 00:27:271 - 00:30:309 - 00:33:347 - 00:39:423 - 00:51:575 - 01:18:917 - , literally all cymbals music can be mapped with dashes
  4. 00:33:347 (1) - the music is crash cymbal so default soft finish sound would be nice here (i mean cymbal hitsound)
  5. 00:51:955 (2,3) - no movement? in ctb the objects feel nicer with a movement even just a small movement http://puu.sh/i7az2.jpg
  6. 00:54:486 (1,2,3) - it's pretty rare to see stack pattern in ctb because of.. yeah no movement xD , we usually give at least small movement, i'd say like http://puu.sh/i7aH9.jpg
  7. 00:56:132 (3) - the rhythm is fine but in case to emphasize the musics better, end at 00:57:271 - because of loud (high tone) music and 00:57:651 - map this with a dash circle so it emphasizes the cymbal music more
  8. 01:46:259 (1,2,3) - yep for the flow, little bit movements would improve them a lot http://puu.sh/i7aZh.jpg
  9. 01:52:714 (3,4,6) - the flows are so sharp, try smoother them with decrease the spacing a bit


  • Platter
  1. for me, this diff feels like Rain diff with Platter AR actually, somehow it's hard for me
  2. 00:02:968 - until 00:05:119 - in begining, the objects should played nicely and not really hard, i really suggest to not use 1/6 here in case to make players not worrying and nervous with the rhythms
  3. for the all this diff has lot of dashes which makes the diff feels hard, i really recommended to nerf the spacing, just let players see more normal
    spacing to make players dont need to press dashes in all time. For place suitable for jumps imo in 00:08:664 - 00:07:145 - 00:07:904 - 00:09:043 -
    00:10:183 - and so on, literally for high pitch of flutes, too many here


  • Rain
  1. 00:06:385 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - make the spacing more consistent would be nicer to play here imo http://puu.sh/i86bG.jpg
  2. 00:09:043 (1) - no movement makes the flow feels not really well here for me, i'd like to make like http://puu.sh/i87GP.jpg
  3. 00:09:550 (3,4) - anti flow </3
  4. 00:10:562 - 00:11:575 - 00:12:081 - and literally every stanza (long whiteticks) could add the HDashes here

Overdose : literally same as Rain, 00:06:005 - 00:07:145 - 00:10:562 - 00:11:575 - 00:12:081 - and literally every stanza (long whiteticks) could add the HDashes here , you still need to add some HDashes more than Rain example in 00:08:664 - 00:09:803 - , literally is high pitch music

good luck
Crystal
@Xinely: actually it is like Platter+, but i was told to make it hard, so sorry, i am not going to fix those patterns which are "hard". patterns "weird" are preferred to be fixed by me.

@Intensity: minor changes posting here
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Badis

Xinely wrote:

from Badis


  • Rain
  1. 00:06:385 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - make the spacing more consistent would be nicer to play here imo http://puu.sh/i86bG.jpg Fixed ;w;
  2. 00:09:043 (1) - no movement makes the flow feels not really well here for me, i'd like to make like http://puu.sh/i87GP.jpg Excellent !! Fixed o/
  3. 00:09:550 (3,4) - anti flow </3 Fixed <3
  4. 00:10:562 - 00:11:575 - 00:12:081 - and literally every stanza (long whiteticks) could add the HDashes here
Fixed all o/


good luck
Thanks for the mod o/

Tuturu !! :3
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Title:Avalon no oka
TitleUnicode:アヴァロンの丘
Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Intensity
Version:Xingxing's pLatter
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:naoyuki sato badis crystal [_Crystal] xingxing
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BeatmapSetID:218623

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Badis
Topic Starter
Callionet

Xinely wrote:

combo 1 and combo 2 are too similar and hard to can know the different in gameplay, considering make one of them darker fixed


  • Salad
  1. 00:06:005 (1) - the spacing is too low, consider move to x:416
  2. actually i feel your normal spacing is too low here, comparing with big size of fruit, they look not really neat and feel not really challenging in 1/3 (i dont say about your dashes but non dashes ones xD), example 00:06:259 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/i78hi.jpg 00:07:524 (5,6) - http://puu.sh/i78ZX.jpg 00:12:081 (1,2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/i79qF.jpg and so on for similar spacings, they are in whole diff and i'm human so i cant tell them all in this mod lol
  3. also this part for mentioning time which suitable for me to add dashes, 00:12:081 - 00:18:157 - (definitely crash cymbal so it emphasize much better with higher spacing like dash) 00:21:195 - 00:23:094 - 00:25:752 - 00:27:271 - 00:30:309 - 00:33:347 - 00:39:423 - 00:51:575 - 01:18:917 - , literally all cymbals music can be mapped with dashes
  4. 00:33:347 (1) - the music is crash cymbal so default soft finish sound would be nice here (i mean cymbal hitsound)
  5. 00:51:955 (2,3) - no movement? in ctb the objects feel nicer with a movement even just a small movement http://puu.sh/i7az2.jpg
  6. 00:54:486 (1,2,3) - it's pretty rare to see stack pattern in ctb because of.. yeah no movement xD , we usually give at least small movement, i'd say like http://puu.sh/i7aH9.jpg
  7. 00:56:132 (3) - the rhythm is fine but in case to emphasize the musics better, end at 00:57:271 - because of loud (high tone) music and 00:57:651 - map this with a dash circle so it emphasizes the cymbal music more
  8. 01:46:259 (1,2,3) - yep for the flow, little bit movements would improve them a lot http://puu.sh/i7aZh.jpg
  9. 01:52:714 (3,4,6) - the flows are so sharp, try smoother them with decrease the spacing a bit


Overdose : literally same as Rain, 00:06:005 - 00:07:145 - 00:10:562 - 00:11:575 - 00:12:081 - and literally every stanza (long whiteticks) could add the HDashes here , you still need to add some HDashes more than Rain example in 00:08:664 - 00:09:803 - , literally is high pitch music increased spacing

good luck
salad all fixed
koliron
Rain 4.45
Overdose 4.46
that's what I call being rebel

Good song xox

I find no way to change this without ruining the stars
but I find it extremely difficult the overdose to the stars it has and the lack of HDashs causing confusion x.x
In the rain I do not find any error in particular :3
(I don't know if can keep the stars)

GL
Spectator
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Badis
Fak yay !! Now we will make this qualified !! <3
koliron
Lol
Yumeno Himiko
good bubble
Vhy
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Salutation!
as badis request. a pats for a mod ;)

Note: i do not mod gene... well fuck q.q

[General]
  1. check your difficulty spread pls. im not sure why you made its AR as following 6.0/8.3/9.0/9.1. some modders before also already stated this and its looks like you declining them. i don't know what exactly your reason is but if you ask me i would raise up the AR on salad to 7 due the current bpm and rhythm. a 1/3 rhythm on 158 bpm is the same as 1/2 on 237 bpm so with the current AR on salad difficulty, there's some notes that may (almost) overlap to each other which is should be avoided in lower difficulty. well that just an explanation and so i suggest to make its AR to 7.0/8.2/9.0/9.2 and its HP to 5.0/5.5/6.0/6.5 on the following difficulties
  2. tick rate 1 on salad and platter fits better
[Salad]
  1. 00:50:816 (3) - i would place this note far away to create a more dashy movement as it fits better between those 1/1 circles. something like you did at 00:56:892 (2,3,1) was pretty nice
  2. 01:24:993 (1,2) - this is a possible part to create a more Dash movement. i was thinking a spacing like on 01:15:499 (5,1) would fit here
[Platter]
it's clear
[Rain]
  1. 00:03:221 (3,4) - don't you think this spacing is kinda "big" for its current pattern? imo its just not good to introducing this kind of spacing in the very early song
  2. 00:27:778 (5) - somehow it looks really stressful to see this movement and with a sudden Hyper. how about x:132
  3. 01:14:360 (1) - ughh well, in not always recommending this kind of pattern. a current speed of repeating slider after a Hyper may lead to a random miss for those who are not really experienced. just rotate it by 30 degrees so the distance of its head and tail is not that big for a repeating slider
  4. 01:14:993 (1) - same as above
[Overdose]
  • not gonna commend this map style but i found some exaggerating chain jumps that needs to be lighten since there must be a "limit" to keep it playable enough but also still hard enough. here are some
  1. 00:08:031 (3,4,5) - (3) to x:232, (5) to x:184)
  2. 00:41:069 (2,3) - (2) to x:272, (3) to x:424
  3. 00:47:398 (4,5,6) - 2 grid to left
  4. 01:12:082 (1,2) - 1 grid to left
  5. 01:16:639 (5) - 2 grid to left

    oh there's one more
  6. 01:34:867 (5) - how about change it to a 2/3 slider? there's an audible sound at 01:35:119 so i think it deserves an object there
immh'm not pretty sure about the spread between salad and platter, it seems salad is easier and platter is like harder than it should be. maybe it is just me :3
anyway call me back after done with these changes :D
Topic Starter
Callionet

Eclipst wrote:

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Salutation!
as badis request. a pats for a mod ;)

Note: i do not mod gene... well fuck q.q

[General]
  1. check your difficulty spread pls. im not sure why you made its AR as following 6.0/8.3/9.0/9.1. some modders before also already stated this and its looks like you declining them. i don't know what exactly your reason is but if you ask me i would raise up the AR on salad to 7 due the current bpm and rhythm. a 1/3 rhythm on 158 bpm is the same as 1/2 on 237 bpm so with the current AR on salad difficulty, there's some notes that may (almost) overlap to each other which is should be avoided in lower difficulty. well that just an explanation and so i suggest to make its AR to 7.0/8.2/9.0/9.2 and its HP to 5.0/5.5/6.0/6.5 on the following difficulties changed
  2. tick rate 1 on salad and platter fits better changed
[Salad]
  1. 00:50:816 (3) - i would place this note far away to create a more dashy movement as it fits better between those 1/1 circles. something like you did at 00:56:892 (2,3,1) was pretty nice changed
  2. 01:24:993 (1,2) - this is a possible part to create a more Dash movement. i was thinking a spacing like on 01:15:499 (5,1) would fit here changed
[Overdose]
  • not gonna commend this map style but i found some exaggerating chain jumps that needs to be lighten since there must be a "limit" to keep it playable enough but also still hard enough. here are some
  1. 00:08:031 (3,4,5) - (3) to x:232, (5) to x:184) changed
  2. 00:41:069 (2,3) - (2) to x:272, (3) to x:424 changed
  3. 00:47:398 (4,5,6) - 2 grid to left changed
  4. 01:12:082 (1,2) - 1 grid to left changed
  5. 01:16:639 (5) - 2 grid to left changed

    oh there's one more
  6. 01:34:867 (5) - how about change it to a 2/3 slider? there's an audible sound at 01:35:119 so i think it deserves an object there changed
Badis

Eclipst wrote:

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Salutation!
as badis request. a pats for a mod ;) *pat* yosh yosh :3

Note: i do not mod gene... well fuck q.q
[Rain]
  1. 00:03:221 (3,4) - don't you think this spacing is kinda "big" for its current pattern? imo its just not good to introducing this kind of spacing in the very early song Yep , you are right , the music is calm here so better have low spacings : changed :D
  2. 00:27:778 (5) - somehow it looks really stressful to see this movement and with a sudden Hyper. how about x:132 Made an alternative pattern but with the same idea as yours
  3. 01:14:360 (1) - ughh well, in not always recommending this kind of pattern. a current speed of repeating slider after a Hyper may lead to a random miss for those who are not really experienced. just rotate it by 30 degrees so the distance of its head and tail is not that big for a repeating slider Ok ;w;
  4. 01:14:993 (1) - same as above ^

anyway call me back after done with these changes :D
Thanks a lot mate :D We'll do dis !! ;w;

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ExGon
intencity
Topic Starter
Callionet

ExGon wrote:

intencity
hihi
Spectator
Rebubbled
Vhy
alright lets try this...

Qualified
meii18

Eclipst wrote:

alright lets try this...

Qualified
where's the heart icon from your qualify post? owo
Vhy

ByBy13 wrote:

Eclipst wrote:

alright lets try this...

Qualified
where's the heart icon from your qualify post? owo
orz i always forgot that, thanks for reminding me :P

anyways note to the QAT:
about the part starting at 01:10:562 - until 01:11:322 - its the mapper choice to keep the 1/3 rhythm which is follow the drum even though its barely audible compared to the other beat which is pretty much louder because of its slightly offbeat. but it plays fine actually :p
Badis
We did it boys !! <3
Mercurial
Oh cool, another Nekomata Master song.
Mafumafu
gratz!
ZHSteven
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Vhy
and it survived. yessss >w<
Topic Starter
Callionet

ZHSteven wrote:

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