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osu! World Cup 2014 - Discussion Thread
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Word to describe the queen right now:
wreck
verb
= destroy, break, total (slang), smash, ruin, devastate, mar, shatter, spoil, demolish, sabotage, trash (slang), ravage, dash to pieces, kennet (Australian, slang), jeff (Australian, slang) • Vandals wrecked the garden.
wreck
verb
= destroy, break, total (slang), smash, ruin, devastate, mar, shatter, spoil, demolish, sabotage, trash (slang), ravage, dash to pieces, kennet (Australian, slang), jeff (Australian, slang) • Vandals wrecked the garden.
Teams play Darude - Sandstorm for warm-up, chat goes wild. What do the moderators do? Ban random people who say 'Dududu' and then killing the hype by turning on sub-mode again.
Honestly, maybe there needs to be a readjustment of the moderators on the osulive channel after today? People who can tell the difference between 'shitty spam' and 'having a Twitch chat experience' would be nice for next week.
Honestly, maybe there needs to be a readjustment of the moderators on the osulive channel after today? People who can tell the difference between 'shitty spam' and 'having a Twitch chat experience' would be nice for next week.
Whoever was on osulive said that theyre considering to "abandon" the twitchchat.
Basically, they'll let the chat do whatever they want to do but they also dont read questions etc from there.
Basically, they'll let the chat do whatever they want to do but they also dont read questions etc from there.
99% of the timeouts in the Twitch chat are done by a bot, and the sub-only was a mistake that will hopefully not happen again.
I do not think abandoning twitch chat is a solution either though. I still think they need to interact somehow, which should be possible, considering some streamers interact with the members who ask questions, by seeing through the spam posts and insults.
@Xytox, yes, the bans are mostly automatic, but that's because the moderators put in certain phrases/words that will automatically time people out.
@Xytox, yes, the bans are mostly automatic, but that's because the moderators put in certain phrases/words that will automatically time people out.
Can someone provide a link to match between Sweden and Japan? Or at least explain what the hell happend there for Japan to loose?
They got rekt.Novalogic wrote:
Can someone provide a link to match between Sweden and Japan? Or at least explain what the hell happend there for Japan to loose?
shrekt*fartownik wrote:
They got rekt.Novalogic wrote:
Can someone provide a link to match between Sweden and Japan? Or at least explain what the hell happend there for Japan to loose?
Someone just mentioned this to me and I think the same. I believe the winner of the Winner's Bracket (the one advancing to the final) should have an advantage of 1 map and perhaps an automatic roll win over the finalist that comes out of Loser's Bracket. This is how it's done in any tournament that uses Loser's Bracket (CS:GO for example) and I don't see why this couldn't be implemented here as well.
China 2 5 South Korea https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10507941
Australia 2 5 Netherlands https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10508932
Ukraine 5 1 Taiwan https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10509978
Sweden 5 3 Japan https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10510938
Poland 5 1 France https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10517306
Germany 5 3 Russian Federation https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10518861
United Kingdom 2 5 Austria https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10520060
Argentina 2 5 United States https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10521646
full list before wiki updates.
Topic Starter
Schedule n stuff is released
As far as I can tell the loser bracket's winner needs to win 2 matches against the winner bracket's winner as it stands right now (just imagine a best of 3 where the first loss does not necessarily come from the actual enemy).fartownik wrote:
Someone just mentioned this to me and I think the same. I believe the winner of the Winner's Bracket (the one advancing to the final) should have an advantage of 1 map and perhaps an automatic roll win over the finalist that comes out of Loser's Bracket. This is how it's done in any tournament that uses Loser's Bracket (CS:GO for example) and I don't see why this couldn't be implemented here as well.
Yeah, usually for tournaments with best-of-whatever, the loser bracket team has to win two best-of-whatever in order to win the whole thing, while the team from the winner bracket only has to win one.
This would make sense if you consider every team starts with two chances before they're kicked out of the tournament.
This would make sense if you consider every team starts with two chances before they're kicked out of the tournament.
Looks like this year OWC is full of surprises and missing best players ( Snowwhite, SmallK, Rafis, rrtyui, and so on ). Maybe There is a chance to overthrow Korea after all 
Ingame score (and combo) was correct, though. Seems to me like the data written to the website skipped the last few things some of the clients sent. :pChewin wrote:
Can anyone explain me this:
Tom SS 1447 combo. I didn't SS but I have more combo and more score than him. Mh. Wat xD Bug?
By the way, for the next round, perhaps it'd be a cool idea to have a little after stream for an hour or so. Just invite players who just had their match and discuss the maps, the thrill of playing owc, etc. etc. It's insanely fun to hear a bunch of pro players discuss their tactics, views on osu!, and all that stuff. See it like having a little post-match interview.
That would be a pretty good idea. And could give a bit more time between matches (say, 1;30 instead of 1;00).GladiOol wrote:
By the way, for the next round, perhaps it'd be a cool idea to have a little after stream for an hour or so. Just invite players who just had their match and discuss the maps, the thrill of playing owc, etc. etc. It's insanely fun to hear a bunch of pro players discuss their tactics, views on osu!, and all that stuff. See it like having a little post-match interview.
I like this idea.GladiOol wrote:
By the way, for the next round, perhaps it'd be a cool idea to have a little after stream for an hour or so. Just invite players who just had their match and discuss the maps, the thrill of playing owc, etc. etc. It's insanely fun to hear a bunch of pro players discuss their tactics, views on osu!, and all that stuff. See it like having a little post-match interview.
thisGladiOol wrote:
By the way, for the next round, perhaps it'd be a cool idea to have a little after stream for an hour or so. Just invite players who just had their match and discuss the maps, the thrill of playing owc, etc. etc. It's insanely fun to hear a bunch of pro players discuss their tactics, views on osu!, and all that stuff. See it like having a little post-match interview.
Thank god. The chat mods are making the stream very unenjoyable and I hope this is true.Xytox wrote:
99% of the timeouts in the Twitch chat are done by a bot, and the sub-only was a mistake that will hopefully not happen again.
Gladi's post states my point perfectly.
I think it's just the case of the powers that be not being very familiar with the community of twitch chat. It's a very unique experience and timing out for emotes and cutting off chat completely because of spam is going to get you the exact opposite of what you want. Just a heads up for next week, if there is spam you don't want happening, just turn on R9k mode. You don't have to go on a timeout spree or shut down chat.
I am very familiar with twitch chat. That doesn't change my opinion on moderation. If you don't like it then please do not watch. osulive is our channel run by our staff. This is our turf, not yours. Go to another twitch channel if you want your free reign.
As long as I am watching on and helping run an event, I will make sure anything that we have control over is under control to something I am comfortable with. If you would like to have your anarchy in chat, please re-host the stream and run your own chat.
Subscriber mode was not a mistake. It will be used again if people botspam the chat.
As long as I am watching on and helping run an event, I will make sure anything that we have control over is under control to something I am comfortable with. If you would like to have your anarchy in chat, please re-host the stream and run your own chat.
Subscriber mode was not a mistake. It will be used again if people botspam the chat.
Waiting for this to happen on a bigger scale now and whether or not this is really what you want to happen.peppy wrote:
(...)If you would like to have your anarchy in chat, please re-host the stream and run your own chat.(...)
Fantastic way to promote a product. 10/10.peppy wrote:
If you don't like it then please do not watch..
Actually we tried to have this at the end of group stage. Well the plan was me, Raiku, jesse, and ztrot in stream showcasing the mappool and talk about knock out stage but we had issues with stream so we didnt go on. I do agree with your idea Gladi it is cool idea. I would definitely want one after the quarters.GladiOol wrote:
By the way, for the next round, perhaps it'd be a cool idea to have a little after stream for an hour or so. Just invite players who just had their match and discuss the maps, the thrill of playing owc, etc. etc. It's insanely fun to hear a bunch of pro players discuss their tactics, views on osu!, and all that stuff. See it like having a little post-match interview.
This kind of attitude is what is ruining the experience for many people. Please try to understand that.peppy wrote:
If you don't like it then please do not watch.
The alternative is streaming on my own service and bypassing twitch, to avoid what comes with hosting on twitch (horribly immature behaviour, endless new accounts which cannot be banned and therefore continue to cause havoc in chat, huge automated bot spam etc.).
I have been looking into this recently and maybe consider it for future official tournaments, if it is feasible from a logistics perspective.
Also, I agree that we should have after-match streams with further discussion. This would add a lot to the experience.
I have been looking into this recently and maybe consider it for future official tournaments, if it is feasible from a logistics perspective.
Also, I agree that we should have after-match streams with further discussion. This would add a lot to the experience.
How much clearer did you need him to make it?Cola wrote:
Waiting for this to happen on a bigger scale now and whether or not this is really what you want to happen.
Streaming on your own might work for the 'endless new accounts' part of the story, but the horribly immature behaviour is something you will not be able to control either way. Also, I have never actually seen automated bot spam (just view bots), in my 2 (?) years I've been a Twitch viewer. Not even the big League of Legends tournaments get spammed by bots, these are all normal people having their Twitch chat experience.peppy wrote:
The alternative is streaming on my own service and bypassing twitch, to avoid what comes with hosting on twitch (horribly immature behaviour, endless new accounts which cannot be banned and therefore continue to cause havoc in chat, huge automated bot spam etc.).
I have been looking into this recently and maybe consider it for future official tournaments, if it is feasible from a logistics perspective.
I think streaming the tournament on your own service is a very bad idea if you look at the marketing part for Osu as well. Osu is growing as a whole, but if you're going to host it on your own private server, no one will know Osu! tournaments even exist, aside from the people frequenting the forum or checking out Twitter. I think the people casually checking out Twitch and seeing a sudden rise in viewers for a game they have never heard of, will at least make them click on the tournament stream to see what's up.
Post-match discussion with the players would be a nice touch, and for the Twitch chat I can't really say anything. It's pretty much just spam when someone breaks combo/disconnects/somethingbadhappens. Such is the nature of Twitch chat though.
I will however agree with what Morurc said, it's probably best if osu! was kept on Twitch when it comes to major tournaments such as OWC. Although there will be a major influx of trolls/spammers, more people are watching and this will bring new players in.
Plus brand new players might be encouraged by the high level of play to become better or whatever.
Damn you Twitch chat y u do dis.
I will however agree with what Morurc said, it's probably best if osu! was kept on Twitch when it comes to major tournaments such as OWC. Although there will be a major influx of trolls/spammers, more people are watching and this will bring new players in.
Plus brand new players might be encouraged by the high level of play to become better or whatever.
Damn you Twitch chat y u do dis.
nvm
i think other people made the point clear
i think other people made the point clear
I can see the post-interview idea being a really good idea, but I can see it being even more stress on just about everybody (especially tournament staff). I can also see some people not wanting to do it because they're not comfortable talking in front of a lot of people, or are not confident in their english skills and are afraid to make mistakes.
But other than that, I would support it.
But other than that, I would support it.
Peppy...there was no bot spam
this was only 3k people rioting about the same thing. and this 'riot' is minuscule compared to league chats.
goes to show how much you actually know about twitch. I think you need another member on your team of elites to handle twitch. and someone experienced.
the riot literally would've died down in like 10 mins TOP
chill.
this was only 3k people rioting about the same thing. and this 'riot' is minuscule compared to league chats.
goes to show how much you actually know about twitch. I think you need another member on your team of elites to handle twitch. and someone experienced.
the riot literally would've died down in like 10 mins TOP
chill.
Post-interviews will be cool. There is always some fun stuff happening on almost every match
The problem is only when to do this. You can't really make it right after the match because chances are it will overlap with another running match
Doing this a few days later is obviously not a good idea too
But yeah it will be interesting to hear
The problem is only when to do this. You can't really make it right after the match because chances are it will overlap with another running match
Doing this a few days later is obviously not a good idea too
But yeah it will be interesting to hear
I wasn't handling it (was in transit at the time), but I agree with the decisions made. There's no harm in turning off chat to let people calm down. And it worked.Makan1 wrote:
the riot literally would've died down in like 10 mins TOP
chill.
And yes, I do understand that twitch gives the game popularity, but that's not one of my primary goals. I have never wanted to see the game grow faster than it naturally is. Yes, from a "marketing" and "profits" perspective this is just stupid, but osu! is not a commercial project to me, even though it may be so by nature.
Considering people are still arguing about it right now at this very moment, I wouldn't say it "worked".peppy wrote:
I wasn't handling it (was in transit at the time), but I agree with the decisions made. There's no harm in turning off chat to let people calm down. And it worked.
The main reason 'it worked' was because 99% of the people who were 'rioting' got timed out for 10 minutes, lol.
If gaining popularity isn't your primary goal for the OWC, what is your goal exactly? I mean.. I can only applaud you for not thinking purely business, but what is it that you strife for then?
- Entertainment value? A part of this is the Twitch chat experience. However immature you may find it, it's still valuable to a lot of people (if that wasn't apparent enough by the discussion going on at the moment).
- Esports viability? With how unstable the client is (e.g. disconnects from Bancho), this is incredibly hard to achieve at the moment. Unless you're gonna make a local tournament, so that people can play offline (and this is pretty much impossible to achieve).
- Bringing the community together? It sure is working, just not the way you probably intended it to.
Now listen, take what you want from whatever I'm saying, I mean.. I've been playing this game for only 4-5 months, so what do I know? But I do think there could and should be a change in the way this tournament (and even the game as a whole, not really relevant to this particular discussion though) is being handled.
If gaining popularity isn't your primary goal for the OWC, what is your goal exactly? I mean.. I can only applaud you for not thinking purely business, but what is it that you strife for then?
- Entertainment value? A part of this is the Twitch chat experience. However immature you may find it, it's still valuable to a lot of people (if that wasn't apparent enough by the discussion going on at the moment).
- Esports viability? With how unstable the client is (e.g. disconnects from Bancho), this is incredibly hard to achieve at the moment. Unless you're gonna make a local tournament, so that people can play offline (and this is pretty much impossible to achieve).
- Bringing the community together? It sure is working, just not the way you probably intended it to.
Now listen, take what you want from whatever I'm saying, I mean.. I've been playing this game for only 4-5 months, so what do I know? But I do think there could and should be a change in the way this tournament (and even the game as a whole, not really relevant to this particular discussion though) is being handled.