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osu! World Cup 2014 - Discussion Thread

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Ephemeral
As always, anybody with questions/concerns that they don't feel they can voice here or are concerned about asking publicly can email me at ephemeral@ppy.sh, or send me a PM on the forums, whatever you're comfortable with.
Ephemeral
First shitposter award goes to handsome, who has permanently lost his posting rights in this forum. Anyone else?
AutoMedic
i'm rooting for ph

Pizzicato + Mira = Destructive force
GladiOol

Ephemeral wrote:

First shitposter award goes to handsome, who has permanently lost his posting rights in this forum. Anyone else?
I volunteer.

Though it'd be a pity because I have to post the map lists.

This is more of a heads up to not provoke ephemeral. You know better. Be better than the ones you're trying to get here.
Ephemeral
A very fair point, Gladi. I would be inclined to agree if 17 pages and numerous attempts from dozens of other people had succeeded at all, but alas, it has not, and now I am here.

Moral superiority is not the goal here, it is to keep this thread ordered and pointed towards a specific purpose beyond simply shittalking staff members for trying to make the game better for everyone else.
Zallius

Ephemeral wrote:

Moral superiority is not the goal here, it is to keep this thread ordered and pointed towards a specific purpose beyond simply shittalking staff members for trying to make the game better for everyone else.
You're making me look like a really REALLY nice guy ;)
Rucker
SAD
Sakisan
Thank you Ephemeral, you are much appreciated.

SPOILER
Belgium's roster is not yet listed on the wiki so I had no reason to join the drama anyway

I have a question about the group stage:
Group Stage 8-9 Nov 2014
Does this imply there will be no matches on friday?
I'd like to know so I can postpone my friday activities if necessary.
manjumochi
Go Brasil! (And Japan, if Brazil can't play or be eliminated).

SPOILER
At least I can support for some countrys, I hope. (Or this is prohibited, too?)

PS: looks like my posts on this thread were shitposts, I'm sorry (I was believing that was good ideas, but they were considered shit, as almost I ever do in life :cry: ).
KRZY
Are we to see finalized rosters for every team today?
Proxy
thanks alot Ephemeral
arigatou
OK OK U R RIGHT
Topic Starter
Loctav

KRZY wrote:

Are we to see finalized rosters for every team today?
I am still editing the wiki, give me a bit.
KRZY

Loctav wrote:

KRZY wrote:

Are we to see finalized rosters for every team today?
I am still editing the wiki, give me a bit.
Good to know, thanks.
Atrue
Sorry for being late in the thread. But indeed we need to learn how to make available discussions here, rather than just showing bad feelings, flaming, baiting. ( For example I know we have fun in copying posts in Chinese community, I know we have no bad intention such as insulting or something else. But this is not an appropriate attitude for discussing, that is only for talking some thing not too serious.) These will do no good for the game.
Just saying that we need to adjust our attitude towards discussion. For Chinese speakers, if you get trouble in communicating in English, I'd like to be your translator. Better than Baidu or Google. (Translation of the last sentence: 如果有正式的讨论性质的东西,而英文交流又吃力的话,可以找我当中英翻译,比翻译机稍微强一点)
Wishy
With all due respect, "serious and appropriate" discussions already took place several times but it just doesn't work, there is reason shitstorms happen, it's not that everyone's out to get you and troll you but that there is an actual problem.

Point has been made anyways so let's see what management does/say about this, which according to what we already experienced is gonna be nothing, so let's drop it already and wait.

And I have to tell everyone what Ephemeral says is right, OWC has always been managed this way for years and there are no "special rules" coming up right now, they were used before but not written down on the corresponding wiki, kind of extra official, but nothing's changed and this OWC is just like every other.
AmaiHachimitsu
/me late

Why no trophy this year?


Also peppy said something about allowing crowd funding. Actually it doesn't make sense in the current state of affairs, but if anything, I'd like to see it being more uhhh, accessible?
Glazbom

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

/me late

Why no trophy this year?


There's no money for that.
AmaiHachimitsu

Glazbom wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

/me late

Why no trophy this year?


There's no money for that.

+ 1, some wage cuts would be required.


I'd love to get to know why Peppy doesn't want to be involved in any sonsorship contracts.

Is he afraid of another accidental showing of NSFW Babe as it happened on CWC? Afraid of DDoS/other issues that might ruin the show?
El Koko
more rosters! and we're pretty much eff'd!

doesn't matter, we didn't need nitro anyway. we're gonna make history. vamos méxico!

implying we're going any further than ro16. cry
GladiOol
it would be cool if we'd be able to buy an owc compendium. predicting the outcome of matches and predicting which map will be picked/banned the most etc. is really fun if you can easily compare the predictions with other players having such a compendium.
Small K
@Rucker !!!
@hvick225 !!!
@I will be back !!!
my friends!!!!!! where are you.
K_N
my candidacy also rejected
#blameloctav
farking clowns D:
Wishy

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

+ 1, some wage cuts would be required.


I'd love to get to know why Peppy doesn't want to be involved in any sonsorship contracts.

Is he afraid of another accidental showing of NSFW Babe as it happened on CWC? Afraid of DDoS/other issues that might ruin the show?
osu! is a game that works kind of in a gray zone, since it is based on illegal content.
pyon

Wishy wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

+ 1, some wage cuts would be required.


I'd love to get to know why Peppy doesn't want to be involved in any sonsorship contracts.

Is he afraid of another accidental showing of NSFW Babe as it happened on CWC? Afraid of DDoS/other issues that might ruin the show?
osu! is a game that works kind of in a gray zone, since it is based on illegal content.
borderline legal game.

Also the FEELS @Small K. I feel you.
Manolift
Can you even allow Kappas on the stream pls, and disable the useless bot that bans every face
nya10
I just want to point a mistake

Kairi's link on Canada's rosters is not linked to the right profile ~
JMC

Small K wrote:

@Rucker !!!
@hvick225 !!!
@I will be back !!!
my friends!!!!!! where are you.
that feeeeellss....
Josh
so what do we do about all them posts that were "constructive" that we lost then??? not gonna write another bible mayn
XPJ38

nya10 wrote:

I just want to point a mistake

Kairi's link on Canada's rosters is not linked to the right profile ~
Fixed it.

Just as you know for everybody, you can edit the wiki yourself if you see mistakes like this one, just login with your osu! credentials and click the Edit button on the page. it isn't complicated and would be much appreciated~ edit: not anymore
deadbeat

XPJ38 wrote:

nya10 wrote:

I just want to point a mistake

Kairi's link on Canada's rosters is not linked to the right profile ~
Fixed it.

Just as you know for everybody, you can edit the wiki yourself if you see mistakes like this one, just login with your osu! credentials and click the Edit button on the page. it isn't complicated and would be much appreciated~
i wouldn't. leave it to loctav. there have been issues with people doing such things before
AmaiHachimitsu
This is a very serious question for I really care about it.





When will the #cow be opened?
Marcin

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

This is a very serious question for I really care about it.





When will the #cow be opened?
Probably by the first match, like in previous tourney.
Salvage
SAD
LoGo
Still nothing about our case is resolved and it doesn't look like it even will be till like the beginning of the next owc... how nice from our dear administration who cares and thoroughly inspects every possible case in "breaking the rule part"... peppy also disappeared somewhere after i said to him exact person who has done nothing against the rules... great...

well, good luck to everyone who can participate and is still want to compete with i guess decent players, but clearly not the best :/
Topic Starter
Loctav

XPJ38 wrote:

nya10 wrote:

I just want to point a mistake

Kairi's link on Canada's rosters is not linked to the right profile ~
Fixed it.

Just as you know for everybody, you can edit the wiki yourself if you see mistakes like this one, just login with your osu! credentials and click the Edit button on the page. it isn't complicated and would be much appreciated~
Minor edits are fine, but please tell me beforehand.
El Koko

Loctav wrote:

Minor edits are fine, but please tell me beforehand.
oops. fixed chile's member links, they were all linked to u/1.
Bachia
GO POLAND!!!
Holorin
30 teams so far :D Hype!!!
1 question how come HK only has 4 members and still be able to participate? Also didn't Italy drop out?
Holy shit WWW is here :)) Let's see how he carry Poland :3
Topic Starter
Loctav
Hey everybody.

I stepped out of this entire discussion, because it was nowhere my call to make what regulations apply in this kind of topic. Let's say that I - for myself - want to stay neutral here and I will consider for myself all your brought-up arguments in order to improve the further registration regulations for future world cups, starting with the next upcoming Taiko World Cup 2015 in February.

Please understand that we can not change the regulation at this point for the OWC 2014 anymore, due to the organizational strains and restrictions, especially when you consider that there are not only 1 world cup but 4 world cups per year (and I also need my few weeks to breathe inbetween).

Be assured that I, for myself, have recognized your concerns, hence why I tried to discuss with some of you to make my point clear. We accept your opinion on that and will consider your point of views in future regulations.

For this OWC, unfortunately, the things are as they are now. Please keep in mind that I can not guarantee that the regulations will be any enlightened anywhere. As a future recommendation, I want to say that everyone should stop multiaccounting, cheating or account sharing at instant - to avoid future hassle. Always try to understand that I am also not willed to let people join the tournament I am working on for months over months, while they are blatantly violate the rules and cause me even more extra work. You might consider this as unfair or not impactful enough for this tournament.

Always keep in mind: Imagine how it would be if the participants of your own tournament try to boss you around about what is right and what is wrong. This is your tournament after all, so you make the rules. You are not forcing anyone to join.
I am well aware that the OWC is an event everyone anticipates for, I am well aware that you want to compete against the top of the top, hence I want that too. I want to make this awesome for everyone.

But I have this simple, very simple requirement to make you join: Stop making me and my comrades here extra work by breaking the rules. You are making us trouble on many other fields, independent from this tournament. If you are making me trouble, I do not give you the opportunity to join the events to make your e-penis grow any further, WHILE you are basically making a fool out of me and my comrades. I hope you understand that point.

Anyways, we try to stay neutral here, on all judgements we fell, on all cases that were rejected. I was sorta stunned seeing this happening, but I can not help if the top players are not interested in obeying the rules - and therefore forfeiting their privilege to join the tournament I and my co-hosters work almost 40h a week on. Please RESPECT my and their work. And in order to respect that: Stop breaking the rules.

Moreover, it is not my fault that you fail to read a rule set. When you sign up, you agree to the tournament rules, so I can await that you read everything again and again before signing up. Whoever doesn't has no right to complain retrospectively.

Try to understand my position in specific. I want to bring you the biggest experience ever, so stop being so selfish and understand why I am not willed to let people being disrespectful upon me to join a tournament I am basically hosting (apart of all origin, cheers to lesslunatic and fartownik for the initial work in hosting this)

To bring this entire discussion to an end, I have splitted away the posts for this, storing them in a good place so I can furtherly revise them to improve this tournament for you. Your word has been heard, your warning has been sent. But now, I want to reopen this topic in order to make people discuss the schedules, the mappools and the drawings. Let's have a good OWC, anyways. Put your grunge away and let's enjoy this, because that's what I want to.

In order to clarify: I won't refrain from furtherly remove any discussion about the above addressed topic in order to make the topic focus on what it should focus for now. This is mostly because this topic leads to nowhere for now and we won't find any compromise here in a decent manner. I hope you do not consider this as censorship, but mostly as a regulative measurement to give the map selectors and the playing teams the opportunity to actually discuss the tournament self

Unlocked. Keep this on line.
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