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osu! World Cup 2014 - Discussion Thread

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Cyclohexane

Riince wrote:

Tom94 wrote:

Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.
That being said time will tell whether this actually is the easier path. I sure don't know. :p
an osu dev playing in owc is so weird, it's like if Chris Metzen played at a blizzcon 3's tournament on WoW, or IronStylus being in an LCS team on LoL.

Team Peppy when?
It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.

And yeah it does seem like France and China get a horrible bracket, but they did have a relatively easy time through groups. Good luck to them.

And I hear everyone's complaints about the client lag, very sorry about it but I doubt we can do much about it. Spectating 8 people at once, some of them having rather unstable Internet connections, I'm already amazed it works. The only way to have it be more stable in my opinion would be to add a boatload of buffer time, which might not even really help if people's connections are slowing down.


Oh, also, good taste KRZY. Onodera a best.
manjumochi
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
Karuta-_old_1

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
Vuelo Eluko

Mr Color wrote:

It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.
well commentators are a lot different than devs~
-Soba-

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions
silmarilen
im not really sure how you could even think argentina to be better than usa
xasuma
What about a 30-60 sec buffer time? This could be implemented in normal spectator mode as well, or just when spectating multiple people at once. THis should get rid of most of the lag. Yes crappy internet still will lag, but wouldnt it still help for most of the times? The fakes misses occur so often that no one ever knows when someone misses anymore.
manjumochi

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them

silmarilen wrote:

im not really sure how you could even think argentina to be better than usa
I also think USA have favoritism against Argentina, despite Argentina have good players (but USA at the moment have upper hand).
Sorry for my bad english :lol: .
Sorega
/happytime

All the players are really good, they are on RO16. They will do their best, and we will enjoy this with a stream without any lag :)

/happytime off

Go France, This year is for us ! ! ! :P
Alumetorz


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jesse1412

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

Austria
Alumetorz
i hate you jesus
Omgforz
u wot m8

we'll rek u, fite me 1v1

do u even shave?
Alumetorz
I LOL'D SO HARD
Xytox
It begins.
Karuta-_old_1
I LOL'D SO HARD
Especially with what the Queen said, I am so gonna get "clicked" and wake up rank 1,000,000
chainpullz
Have you considered streaming the matches off of replay files instead of streaming them live (would be like 5-10 minute delay) to cut down on some of the lag and client issues? It seems like most of the issues are caused by network jitter.

Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.

TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined
-Ryuujii-

chainpullz wrote:

Have you considered streaming the matches off of replay files instead of streaming them live (would be like 5-10 minute delay) to cut down on some of the lag and client issues? It seems like most of the issues are caused by network jitter.

Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.

TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined
Nothing against your opinion or suggestions but they do talk about other mods and such, what do you watch? they also talk about osu!Academy and if you have lag issues with your stream, just fix your comcast internet or refresh. If players Disconnect during a match is their fault not the client lol. You should give more good feedback to the casters and management they are doing a great job so far, as best as they can.
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Loctav

jesus1412 wrote:

image
weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?
Marcin
was he

can't find it in log.
jesse1412

Loctav wrote:

jesus1412 wrote:

image
weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?
What the fuck did you say about my copy pasting skills....
pooptartsonas
I have over 300 confirmed successful copy+pastes.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Marcin wrote:

was he

can't find it in log.
Neil Watts
oh btw, wiki owners, notice that lesslunatic changed his username. o/
Can't edit the page myself, it's locked.
ToGlette

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them


Why South Korea? Shouldn't it be China :)

and goodbye jesse cuz Austria will rekt UK :)
Unusual-bot
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
Xayne

-Soba- wrote:

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions
AmaiHachimitsu

NaCulus wrote:

so, when will the loser bracket be held?

I don't know but I smell a big drama.
fartownik

NaCulus wrote:

so, when will the loser bracket be held?
I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.
Topic Starter
Loctav

fartownik wrote:

NaCulus wrote:

so, when will the loser bracket be held?
I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.
Read the ruleset? Its all written there.
Omgforz

ToGlette wrote:

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them


Why South Korea? Shouldn't it be China :)

and goodbye jesse cuz Austria will rekt UK :)
too bad alumetorz can't play due to a serbian festival, just like last year when we were against latvia, so rip austria for now haha
AmaiHachimitsu

Loctav wrote:

Read the ruleset? Its all written there.

Read the posts?

The question was when it starts, not what it will look like. And I don't see any information about that in Stage Instructions. What we want to know is when and under which mappool (present or next) loser's bracket matches will be scheduled. It's for the losing teams to be informed as not to be suddenly surprised with "you're playing tomorrow at 9am" or similar info.
Topic Starter
Loctav

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Read the ruleset? Its all written there.

Read the posts?

The question was when it starts, not what it will look like. And I don't see any information about that in Stage Instructions. What we want to know is when and under which mappool (present or next) loser's bracket matches will be scheduled. It's for the losing teams to be informed as not to be suddenly surprised with "you're playing tomorrow at 9am" or similar info.
You shouldnt worry about such stuff too much. Every match is scheduled and pool-assigned to the according round in the table. There are letters, there is a round name. There you have your assignment.
Gangsterkill
This tournament.... I can't even.

also #freeHappystick
Athrun
So much hate on Locatav in Australia vs Netherlands...

And now the censorship. This chat is turning into communism where every single rude comment will be shot on sight.
R.I.P.
Morurc

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

So much hate on Locatav in Australia vs Netherlands...
For a good reason though.. If you're gonna make stuff up on the fly as a staff member for the OWC just because you can't handle a joke, the OWC loses a lot of credibility.
Athrun
Man this is turning serious.
Some picture highlights:

Attempt of clearing the commotion


Second time. They actually stopped the comment flow...


The happystick movement


The chat has ever gone so quiet.. A first in OWC history
Is this the next Tienanmen Square incident?
fartownik


I expect this post to be deleted but whatever, at least so many people can see this.
[ Joey ]
The way Loctav is acting is really cheapening the OWC imo
Athrun

fartownik wrote:

My god. Communism...

[ Joey ] wrote:

The way Loctav is acting is really cheapening the OWC imo
This is why I really liked last year's positioning of the tournament. It all went ever so smoothly.
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