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M.Iz - My Favourite Vocaloid Song Medley

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on February-29-16 at 7:06:12 AM

Artist: M.Iz
Title: My Favourite Vocaloid Song Medley
Tags: hatsune miku kagamine rin len megpoid GUMI megurine luka kaito meiko gakupo miki
BPM: 180
Filesize: 20814kb
Play Time: 12:29
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Download: M.Iz - My Favourite Vocaloid Song Medley
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omg so kawaii
pkk
( ̄▽ ̄)ノ
Garven
The end was a little weird since I tried to go back in time to linear and catmull style, but I can adjust if too many people puke in their mouths a little.

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MokouSmoke
from your queue~
omg, my computer blue-screened to death after modding the first 10 mins of the song x.x RIP initial comments
Map
  1. 00:16:049 (5,6,7) - these rhythms are always strange to play because the sliders are starting on blue ticks. I wouldn't comment on it if you did it consistently, but you also use triplet patterns like at 00:17:382 (2,3,4) - which are much easier to read and play, so I would recommend using triplet patterns here as well. something like this http://puu.sh/nfeGo/87abad61c3.jpg
  2. same thing at 00:18:715 (7,8) - 00:24:049 (1,2,3,4) - etc...
  3. 00:23:382 (4,5,6) - why is this triplet spacing bigger than at 00:22:715 (1,2,3) - ?
  4. 00:27:049 (4,5) - blanket?
  5. 00:26:715 (3) - NC here instead, just like at 00:32:049 (1) - also maybe NC at 00:28:049 (6) -
  6. 00:47:382 (5,6) - a jump would be nice here
  7. 00:50:549 - would prefer if this was clickable since it's the last note in the phrase
  8. 00:53:215 (6,1,2,3) - music here sounds much different than at 00:51:882 (2,3,4,5) - so prefer if you don't just repeat pattern. in particular, I think 00:53:715 - 00:54:382 - should be clickable
  9. 00:55:215 (3,4,5,6,7) - prefer different pattern here, I don't think song calls for constant decrease in spacing, or at least not this drastic
  10. 01:09:882 (6,7) - maybe it's just me since I hate doublets, but this doesn't play well since the instrument you follow is very quiet and you don't really follow it anywhere else except for these doublet patterns. I think more traditional 1/2 or triplet rhythms would be better
  11. 01:10:715 (11) - you sure about this slider shape?
  12. I don't quite understand your NC pattern, but I think 01:45:215 (4) - or 01:45:382 (5) - should be NC since it's new phrase for the electronic instrument?
  13. 01:24:215 (4) - make this more curved so it flows into stream better
  14. 01:26:049 (5,7) - might look better if these are symmetric
  15. 02:06:215 (4,5,6) - DS these and make 02:06:549 (6,1) - bigger spacing imo
  16. 02:09:382 (7) - sounds similar to 02:09:715 (1) - so I think a 1/2 slider here fits better. also maybe break 02:09:715 (1) - into 1/2 slider + note so 02:10:049 - is clickable
  17. 02:16:382 (8) - make flatter so its smoother flow from 02:16:215 (7) -
  18. 02:43:382 (4,5) - maybe stack since they sound identical
  19. 02:49:382 (7,1,2) - rhythm suggestion: I think you should follow electronic instrument a little longer before switching to drums so it doesn't feel as abrupt http://puu.sh/nfh1E/3e33bef335.jpg
  20. 02:52:715 (3,4,5) - same idea, transition from instrument at 02:52:049 (6) - to drums at 02:52:549 (1) - is too abrupt and the strong sound at 02:52:715 (3) - doesn't get emphasized at all. I think something like this would be better: http://puu.sh/nfhjO/7f01c3b17c.jpg same thing at 02:55:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
  21. 02:57:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - for these kinds of patterns, it's recommended that 02:58:049 (5,6) - has a slightly different angle than 02:57:382 (1,2) - and 02:58:382 (1,2) - has a slightly different angle than 02:57:715 (3,4) -
  22. 03:00:882 - maybe add note to fill in gap? this one just felt a little strange to me
  23. 03:02:715 (8,9,10,11,12) - don't like this pattern since beats are grouped in 2 with 03:02:715 (8,10,12) - being the strong beats, but here you treat all of them equally
  24. 03:13:882 - add note
  25. 03:27:382 (1) - 03:30:215 (1) - these NCs seem unnecessary
  26. 03:33:382 (1,2,3) - I think 1.5 DS here, don't understand why it's so small compared to everything else
  27. 03:35:382 - stream should start here. also, I think delete 03:35:799 (11) - so it's smoother transition back to following instrument
  28. 03:42:382 (5,6) - bigger spacing or make (5) a 1/2 slider
  29. since you've been following instrument I feel 03:43:882 (1,2,3) - are still very strong beats compared to 03:44:382 (4) - , so the spacing change shouldn't be as different. also, linear flow at 03:44:049 (2,3,4) - plays bad
  30. 03:49:049 (1,2,3) - I think unstack triplet is better to represent the three distinct sounds of the instrument compared to something like 03:51:882 (1,2,3) - where no distinct sound so stack is ok
  31. 03:53:882 (8,9,10) - eh, don't really like this since I think 03:54:465 - 03:54:549 - should be clickable. prefer your rhythm at 03:48:549 (7,1,2,3) -
  32. 03:59:632 - since you've been using sliders on blue ticks, you definitely should put a note here same at 04:04:965 -
  33. 04:41:916 - 04:45:066 - prefer if you fill in these gaps, there are already so many gaps in this section which hurts flow
  34. 04:49:416 (4) - use 2 1/2 sliders to follow music better and fill gap
  35. 05:02:766 (3,4) - unstack, different sounds here and is more consistent with 05:01:566 (7,8) -
  36. 05:10:266 (5) - 05:11:466 (1) - I think some inconsistencies in NC
  37. 05:12:216 (3,4,5,6) - so spacing-wise is ok, but because of the angles you used, 05:12:516 (5) - and 05:12:816 (1) - feel more emphasized than 05:12:666 (6) -
  38. 05:40:867 (1,2) - unstack since two different piano sounds
  39. 05:54:200 - I think should be clickable
  40. 06:00:367 (3,4) - bad flow, since you have to move fast right and then immediately move slow left
  41. 06:03:867 (4,5) - unstack?
  42. 06:13:867 (5,6) - prefer bigger spacing here
  43. 06:24:125 (5,6) - I think simple curves would look better
  44. 06:55:218 (7,8) - normally you reserve stacks for 1/2 rhythm, so prefer if you didn't stack for 1/1 pause
  45. 06:59:750 (9) - can you break into 2 1/1 sliders, don't think multiple repeats make sense
  46. 07:01:625 (4) - I think 2 notes is better to follow constant 1/2 spam of instrument
  47. 07:10:687 (4,5) - you could maybe blanket this instead
  48. 07:24:593 - add note
  49. 07:28:031 (4,5) - unstack to represent 1/4 better imo
  50. 07:57:250 (1,2,3,4) - make these all notes instead of sliders
  51. 08:08:343 (2,3) - deserves bigger spacing
  52. 08:22:562 (5) - maybe stack on 08:21:625 (1) - instead?
  53. 08:38:500 (1,2) - these are pretty confusing and don't represent intensity well. I think two streams would fit better, like you use for some of your other transitions
  54. 08:39:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - and 08:42:093 (1,2,3,4) - I would swap these rhythms. Since it's a new song, I think going with the easier rhythm first is better so players get accustomed to the beat.
  55. 08:53:500 (4) - NC? idk
  56. 08:55:843 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - same comment as before. beats in groups of 2 with 08:56:000 (6,8,10) - being strong, so use a pattern that represents that. same thing at 10:09:445 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  57. 09:22:484 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - god, the rhythm is so correct, but it feels so wrong
  58. 10:47:204 (1) - damn, 240 bpm... things are starting to get serious now
  59. 10:56:329 - prefer a note here. leave 1/1 break for 10:56:454 (5,1) -
  60. 11:01:829 (4,5,1) - fix DS, (1) should be emphasized more since it is downbeat and start of where you map drums
  61. 11:25:702 (3,4,5,6) - recommend you change this pattern so 11:25:827 (4) - receives less emphasis than other notes
  62. 11:28:827 - 11:31:577 - etc... very intense part of song, so I would recommend you fill in all 1/1 gaps for this section
  63. 11:34:452 (2,5,8) - prefer NCs on these to make 1/3 more obvious, but maybe I'm just noob
  64. 12:20:952 (1) - SV change too drastic, I think 0.6-0.7 would be better
As a final comment, I will just mention that I would have failed this at the 11 min mark if I didn't playtest with NF. I know the second kiai is the most intense part, but maybe nerf the SV slightly cuz it feels bad for noob players like me to fail a marathon at the end.
I really like medley songs, so I hope you become more active on working on this project so it gets ranked. Have some stars for motivation and good luck!
Topic Starter
SuperMIC

MokouSmoke wrote:

from your queue~
omg, my computer blue-screened to death after modding the first 10 mins of the song x.x RIP initial comments
Map
  1. 00:16:049 (5,6,7) - these rhythms are always strange to play because the sliders are starting on blue ticks. I wouldn't comment on it if you did it consistently, but you also use triplet patterns like at 00:17:382 (2,3,4) - which are much easier to read and play, so I would recommend using triplet patterns here as well. something like this http://puu.sh/nfeGo/87abad61c3.jpg I do agree with you in the sense that it's always a little counter-intuitive to play these, but I generally find that they're good at stressing some 3/4 rhythms. There's a lot of these in the map, so I'll most likely end up keeping some and changing a lot of others. I know there's a section much later I really need to change
  2. same thing at 00:18:715 (7,8) - 00:24:049 (1,2,3,4) - etc... ^
  3. 00:23:382 (4,5,6) - why is this triplet spacing bigger than at 00:22:715 (1,2,3) - ? was originally supposed to be a pattern. changed them both to 0.8x to keep consistency with earlier 1/4
  4. 00:27:049 (4,5) - blanket? it'll never work without severely sacrificing flow ;w;
  5. 00:26:715 (3) - NC here instead, just like at 00:32:049 (1) - disagree also maybe NC at 00:28:049 (6) - agree
  6. 00:47:382 (5,6) - a jump would be nice here couldn't find a spot for a jump but definitely spaced it normally
  7. 00:50:549 - would prefer if this was clickable since it's the last note in the phrase definitely
  8. 00:53:215 (6,1,2,3) - music here sounds much different than at 00:51:882 (2,3,4,5) - so prefer if you don't just repeat pattern. in particular, I think 00:53:715 - 00:54:382 - should be clickable agree
  9. 00:55:215 (3,4,5,6,7) - prefer different pattern here, I don't think song calls for constant decrease in spacing, or at least not this drastic eee i like this pattern
  10. 01:09:882 (6,7) - maybe it's just me since I hate doublets, but this doesn't play well since the instrument you follow is very quiet and you don't really follow it anywhere else except for these doublet patterns. I think more traditional 1/2 or triplet rhythms would be better changed to triplets
  11. 01:10:715 (11) - you sure about this slider shape? blame garven, but I like it
  12. I don't quite understand your NC pattern, but I think 01:45:215 (4) - or 01:45:382 (5) - should be NC since it's new phrase for the electronic instrument? NC on the orange reflects the drum line before every song change
  13. 01:24:215 (4) - make this more curved so it flows into stream better ok
  14. 01:26:049 (5,7) - might look better if these are symmetric prefer it as is
  15. 02:06:215 (4,5,6) - DS these and make 02:06:549 (6,1) - bigger spacing imo disagree with the first suggestion but made a pattern so that (6,1) is a jump
  16. 02:09:382 (7) - sounds similar to 02:09:715 (1) - so I think a 1/2 slider here fits better. also maybe break 02:09:715 (1) - into 1/2 slider + note so 02:10:049 - is clickable disagree with first because of personal preference, and disagree with second because the 1/1 stack plays better with the 1/1 slider
  17. 02:16:382 (8) - make flatter so its smoother flow from 02:16:215 (7) - yes
  18. 02:43:382 (4,5) - maybe stack since they sound identical i had that at first but it plays better if spaced
  19. 02:49:382 (7,1,2) - rhythm suggestion: I think you should follow electronic instrument a little longer before switching to drums so it doesn't feel as abrupt http://puu.sh/nfh1E/3e33bef335.jpg i do like it now but I have some doubts about mapping to the bass when there is the electronic instrument. So i'll get more opinions
  20. 02:52:715 (3,4,5) - same idea, transition from instrument at 02:52:049 (6) - to drums at 02:52:549 (1) - is too abrupt and the strong sound at 02:52:715 (3) - doesn't get emphasized at all. I think something like this would be better: http://puu.sh/nfhjO/7f01c3b17c.jpg same thing at 02:55:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - as above, but you make a very strong case lol. will probably end up changing.
  21. 02:57:382 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - for these kinds of patterns, it's recommended that 02:58:049 (5,6) - has a slightly different angle than 02:57:382 (1,2) - and 02:58:382 (1,2) - has a slightly different angle than 02:57:715 (3,4) - adjusted
  22. 03:00:882 - maybe add note to fill in gap? this one just felt a little strange to me get where you're coming from but there's nothing to map to
  23. 03:02:715 (8,9,10,11,12) - don't like this pattern since beats are grouped in 2 with 03:02:715 (8,10,12) - being the strong beats, but here you treat all of them equally i understand your point but I think because the pitch is going back and forth it warrants equal spacing
  24. 03:13:882 - add note changed it to two 1/2 sliders
  25. 03:27:382 (1) - 03:30:215 (1) - these NCs seem unnecessary agree with first disagree with second
  26. 03:33:382 (1,2,3) - I think 1.5 DS here, don't understand why it's so small compared to everything else pitch is constant
  27. 03:35:382 - stream should start here. also, I think delete 03:35:799 (11) - so it's smoother transition back to following instrument agree with rhythm change, but I don't think deleting that note is necessary
  28. 03:42:382 (5,6) - bigger spacing or make (5) a 1/2 slider i like this pattern
  29. since you've been following instrument I feel 03:43:882 (1,2,3) - are still very strong beats compared to 03:44:382 (4) - , so the spacing change shouldn't be as different. also, linear flow at 03:44:049 (2,3,4) - plays bad disagree with the rhythm, those finishes are much stronger imo you're right about the flow being bad though, changed
  30. 03:49:049 (1,2,3) - I think unstack triplet is better to represent the three distinct sounds of the instrument compared to something like 03:51:882 (1,2,3) - where no distinct sound so stack is ok agree
  31. 03:53:882 (8,9,10) - eh, don't really like this since I think 03:54:465 - 03:54:549 - should be clickable. prefer your rhythm at 03:48:549 (7,1,2,3) - agree
  32. 03:59:632 - since you've been using sliders on blue ticks, you definitely should put a note here same at 04:04:965 - don't agree because it doesn't map to the music
  33. 04:41:916 - 04:45:066 - prefer if you fill in these gaps, there are already so many gaps in this section which hurts flow it's hard because the music is super 1/1-ish, but I tried to fill in the gaps between red tick sliders
  34. 04:49:416 (4) - use 2 1/2 sliders to follow music better and fill gap agree
  35. 05:02:766 (3,4) - unstack, different sounds here and is more consistent with 05:01:566 (7,8) - disagree, builds up tension before the IIIIIIII, DON'T kNOW~
  36. 05:10:266 (5) - 05:11:466 (1) - I think some inconsistencies in NC fixed
  37. 05:12:216 (3,4,5,6) - so spacing-wise is ok, but because of the angles you used, 05:12:516 (5) - and 05:12:816 (1) - feel more emphasized than 05:12:666 (6) - the pattern is shitty in terms of pacing, all changed
  38. 05:40:867 (1,2) - unstack since two different piano sounds disagree
  39. 05:54:200 - I think should be clickable disagree, has to be a slider because (4) must map to those background piano chords. (3) achieves this too but the sliderend doesn't forget the main piano melody.
  40. 06:00:367 (3,4) - bad flow, since you have to move fast right and then immediately move slow left agree but i like this slider ;w; will get more opinions
  41. 06:03:867 (4,5) - unstack? don't hear any musical reason to
  42. 06:13:867 (5,6) - prefer bigger spacing here disagree because of the rest of the section
  43. 06:24:125 (5,6) - I think simple curves would look better but sexy elbows ;w;
  44. 06:55:218 (7,8) - normally you reserve stacks for 1/2 rhythm, so prefer if you didn't stack for 1/1 pause agree, moved
  45. 06:59:750 (9) - can you break into 2 1/1 sliders, don't think multiple repeats make sense the synth is all one long note, so i want to reflect that with continuous holding
  46. 07:01:625 (4) - I think 2 notes is better to follow constant 1/2 spam of instrument lmao agree
  47. 07:10:687 (4,5) - you could maybe blanket this instead mmm, i like pattern as is
  48. 07:24:593 - add note yup
  49. 07:28:031 (4,5) - unstack to represent 1/4 better imo disagree because pitch is the same
  50. 07:57:250 (1,2,3,4) - make these all notes instead of sliders rhythm is complex so it'd be sudden, but i'll get more opinions
  51. 08:08:343 (2,3) - deserves bigger spacing fixed
  52. 08:22:562 (5) - maybe stack on 08:21:625 (1) - instead? disagree because nothing to stress in the music
  53. 08:38:500 (1,2) - these are pretty confusing and don't represent intensity well. I think two streams would fit better, like you use for some of your other transitions disagree, i like the current stressing of beats
  54. 08:39:593 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - and 08:42:093 (1,2,3,4) - I would swap these rhythms. Since it's a new song, I think going with the easier rhythm first is better so players get accustomed to the beat. interesting idea, I think it's fine but I'll consider
  55. 08:53:500 (4) - NC? idk good catch, also fixed a previous nc inconsistency
  56. 08:55:843 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - same comment as before. beats in groups of 2 with 08:56:000 (6,8,10) - being strong, so use a pattern that represents that. same thing at 10:09:445 (1,2,3,4,5) - same argument about back and forth pitches
  57. 09:22:484 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - god, the rhythm is so correct, but it feels so wrong this section sucks, these feel like they should be 1/4 sliders but it's so overmapped. reduced spacing.
  58. 10:47:204 (1) - damn, 240 bpm... things are starting to get serious now uehuehuehue
  59. 10:56:329 - prefer a note here. leave 1/1 break for 10:56:454 (5,1) - 1/2 slider
  60. 11:01:829 (4,5,1) - fix DS, (1) should be emphasized more since it is downbeat and start of where you map drums moved
  61. 11:25:702 (3,4,5,6) - recommend you change this pattern so 11:25:827 (4) - receives less emphasis than other notes i don't want to do that because 240 bpm; it would be a little hard to make it readable with the incoming 1/4 stack
  62. 11:28:827 - 11:31:577 - etc... very intense part of song, so I would recommend you fill in all 1/1 gaps for this section agree
  63. 11:34:452 (2,5,8) - prefer NCs on these to make 1/3 more obvious, but maybe I'm just noob agree
  64. 12:20:952 (1) - SV change too drastic, I think 0.6-0.7 would be better
As a final comment, I will just mention that I would have failed this at the 11 min mark if I didn't playtest with NF. I know the second kiai is the most intense part, but maybe nerf the SV slightly cuz it feels bad for noob players like me to fail a marathon at the end.
I really like medley songs, so I hope you become more active on working on this project so it gets ranked. Have some stars for motivation and good luck!

I do have some concerns given the difficulty of the rest of the map, but the sanik sliders are so goooooooood
Thank you so much for all the support and help. It means a lot! Your mods are coming up. :)
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