NieN - For the Ikarus

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Guu
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on August 11, 2015 at 4:18:28 PM

Artist: NieN
Title: For the Ikarus
Source: DJMAX
BPM: 154
Filesize: 7367kb
Play Time: 02:10
Difficulties Available:
  1. HD (3.48 stars, 345 notes)
  2. imouto's MX (4.28 stars, 492 notes)
  3. MX (4.75 stars, 605 notes)
  4. NM (1.91 stars, 205 notes)


Download: NieN - For the Ikarus
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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imouto's MX by imoutosan

Thanks modding from
Streliteela
Kagamine Ren
Nagi awa
KaedekaShizuru
Zxhzxhz
Autumn
Streliteela
哞姑爷爷窝来丽OwO(煮蛋大失败

[General]

[*]进步还蛮大的,尤其MX难度做的有点那个feel了;但一些地方的排列还是稍显凌乱。HD和NM的问题相对多而且严重一些。这里需要强调的是,rank系统中对星数的上限要求虽然也很重要,但在实际作图的时候不要被这个东西束缚住;实际上,如果谱面排列得当的话,很少有hard难度会触碰到3.75这个上线的;nm也同样如此。所以,想把星数控制好,还是先要从排列方面着手,而不是单纯去miss节奏和降低arod

[*]音频方面,请改用192kbps或以下,并关闭所有难度的widescreen support


[NM]

[*]在此依旧建议ar-1,因为本图中nm是作为最低难度的,不宜选用过高ar
[*]nm谱面在制作的时候,首先一点就是要遵守严格ds一致原则;所以,请记得经常打开AiMod来校准一下个别地方的ds问题

[*]此外,想要做出整齐干净的nm谱面,首先要学会一些基本flow,比如平行和blacket。窝知道爷爷不喜欢这个,但在低难度diff制作中,这些东西都是必不 可少的,它们是谱面整齐度和美观度的重要保障
[*]另外,一个最严重的问题是,图中使用的note太多了,而且部分节奏过于密集对新手难度过大。由于nm难度的ds一致性,这导致如果选择大ds的话note排列会很蠢;而如果把ds降得很低则整个图排列就会很挤放不开。所以,nm和ez中一般选用滑条数量要远多于note,就是避免因为ds过大note太多会看起来纠结的问题。
[*]总之要改的东西还非常多,所以下面就不细说了只是挑一些典型的:


  • 00:09:355 (1,2) - nm里面很忌讳这种逆向的移动(就是滑条1走向向下但note2却在1上方),而且切忌遮挡,所以此处不妥
    00:27:471 (8,9,10,1) - 遮挡太严重了
    00:30:977 (1,2) - ^
    00:48:899 (5,6) - ^
    00:54:938 (6,7) - flow别手
    00:56:886 (3) - 遮挡
    01:00:003 (2) - ^
    01:01:561 (5) - ^
    01:28:444 (3) - ^
    01:31:756 (4) - 这种也是,23向右4却向左,尽量保证移动方向一致以适合新手
    02:03:897 (7) - 爷爷。。。


[HD]
[*]还是需要大改,同样存在局部遮挡过度和过于难读的问题,排列上略乱,而且还是以直线和折角为主(个人不太喜欢orz)而且乍一看有种cs5的错觉是肿么回事。。orz

  • 00:09:257 (8) - 这遮挡太邪恶,读不出来
    00:20:653 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 个人非常不喜欢这种逆flow,非常别手
    00:34:289 (1) - 爷爷扑通。。so weird :o
    00:58:444 (9) - flow不好,别手
    01:00:003 - 这里miss节奏不太好吧。。
    01:01:561 - ^
    01:02:340 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 爷爷扑通。。根本读不清楚,咱还是不要在hard难度里面用这种梗了吧哦日子
    01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 还有这种短滑条梗。。这个已经是in难度了orz
    01:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 爷爷窝要哭丽扑通 :(
    01:19:872 (2,3,4,5,6) - 爷爷窝真哭惹呜呜 :cry:
    01:45:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 虽然打起来没啥问题但怎么那么难看。。。
    02:04:677 - 这里到后面貌似还有节奏,还是填上比较好些


[MX]
爷爷窝打不动啊所以摸不动orz感觉只有一个:kowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
00:59:224 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏miss?

最后,让我们再大喊一句:哞姑爷爷神麻婆,扑通咣当哦日子 8-)
Topic Starter
Guu
卧槽我存的draft哪里去了,皮皮你骗我QAQ

Streliteela wrote:

哞姑爷爷窝来丽OwO(煮蛋大失败大囍过汪~

[General]

[*]进步还蛮大的,尤其MX难度做的有点那个feel了;但一些地方的排列还是稍显凌乱。HD和NM的问题相对多而且严重一些。这里需要强调的是,rank系统中对星数的上限要求虽然也很重要,但在实际作图的时候不要被这个东西束缚住;实际上,如果谱面排列得当的话,很少有hard难度会触碰到3.75这个上线的;nm也同样如此。所以,想把星数控制好,还是先要从排列方面着手,而不是单纯去miss节奏和降低arod
四暗刻……窝排列太蠢

[*]音频方面,请改用192kbps或以下,并关闭所有难度的widescreen support 嗯关掉了……音频先听着,等最后再换w


[NM]

[*]在此依旧建议ar-1,因为本图中nm是作为最低难度的,不宜选用过高ar
[*]nm谱面在制作的时候,首先一点就是要遵守严格ds一致原则;所以,请记得经常打开AiMod来校准一下个别地方的ds问题

[*]此外,想要做出整齐干净的nm谱面,首先要学会一些基本flow,比如平行和blacket。窝知道爷爷不喜欢这个,但在低难度diff制作中,这些东西都是必不 可少的,它们是谱面整齐度和美观度的重要保障
[*]另外,一个最严重的问题是,图中使用的note太多了,而且部分节奏过于密集对新手难度过大。由于nm难度的ds一致性,这导致如果选择大ds的话note排列会很蠢;而如果把ds降得很低则整个图排列就会很挤放不开。所以,nm和ez中一般选用滑条数量要远多于note,就是避免因为ds过大note太多会看起来纠结的问题。
改改改~!

[*]总之要改的东西还非常多,所以下面就不细说了只是挑一些典型的:


  • 00:09:355 (1,2) - nm里面很忌讳这种逆向的移动(就是滑条1走向向下但note2却在1上方),而且切忌遮挡,所以此处不妥
    00:27:471 (8,9,10,1) - 遮挡太严重了
    00:30:977 (1,2) - ^
    00:48:899 (5,6) - ^
    00:54:938 (6,7) - flow别手
    00:56:886 (3) - 遮挡
    01:00:003 (2) - ^
    01:01:561 (5) - ^
    01:28:444 (3) - ^
    01:31:756 (4) - 这种也是,23向右4却向左,尽量保证移动方向一致以适合新手
    02:03:897 (7) - 爷爷。。。

厚厚厚,以上基本全都改辣,回头再地毯式修整下……


[HD]
[*]还是需要大改,同样存在局部遮挡过度和过于难读的问题,排列上略乱,而且还是以直线和折角为主(个人不太喜欢orz)而且乍一看有种cs5的错觉是肿么回事。。orz

  • 00:09:257 (8) - 这遮挡太邪恶,读不出来 我也读不出来……orz
    00:20:653 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 个人非常不喜欢这种逆flow,非常别手 ;w;好吧
    00:34:289 (1) - 爷爷扑通。。so weird :o就要这个效果-w-
    00:58:444 (9) - flow不好,别手 确实……改掉辣
    01:00:003 - 这里miss节奏不太好吧。。 嗯。。加上了
    01:01:561 - ^
    01:02:340 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 爷爷扑通。。根本读不清楚,咱还是不要在hard难度里面用这种梗了吧哦日子
    01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 还有这种短滑条梗。。这个已经是in难度了orz
    01:17:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 爷爷窝要哭丽扑通 :(
    01:19:872 (2,3,4,5,6) - 爷爷窝真哭惹呜呜 :cry:爷爷你太若丽(被殴飞
    01:45:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 虽然打起来没啥问题但怎么那么难看。。。;w;改……
    02:04:677 - 这里到后面貌似还有节奏,还是填上比较好些 厚。那还是用转盘好了


[MX]
爷爷窝打不动啊所以摸不动orz感觉只有一个:kowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
00:59:224 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏miss? 故意的-w-,用来让触触们甩光标然后窝好prpr(够

最后,让我们再大喊一句:哞姑爷爷神麻婆,扑通咣当哦日子 8-)
………………哦日子 ball no black

M酱良心大摸 我已prpr三十遍QAQ
Karen
姑爷爷ww

[General]
  • 一个set的最低难度星数必须小于2,所以这个NM不行,超的有点多,建议remap,我就不摸了ww


[MX]

  • 00:04:192 (8) - 这个往左一点,好看好读
    00:06:043 (9,1) - 保持跟后面的跳的间距吧
    00:08:868 (8,9,10) - overlap有点坑
    00:10:426 (7) - 这个跟前面距离那么远,是人玩的?
    00:11:108 (2) - 2和1重叠好一点
    00:15:491 (12,1) - 距离稍微有点坑,不过也算是个梗啦,你看着办吧
    00:16:757 (5,1) - 尽量避免这种垂直或者水平的滑条,弄一个角度,还有多拉弯一点的滑条,你这图直的太多了
    00:18:705 (1) - 滑条头尾颠倒一下
    00:20:263 (6) - NC
    00:23:965 (8) - 这个滑条拉的跟左边对称多好看,顺便后面的四个滑条都可以这样,打起来也舒服
    00:36:042 (6) - NC
    00:40:523 (1,2) - 太难了
    00:46:659 (12,1) - 同上
    01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 我感觉这一段可以放break,前面转盘
    01:32:145 - NC
    01:35:067 (1,2,3) - 二分拍最好别跟连打间距一样
    02:01:365 (8) - finish
    02:02:144 (3) - finish
    02:02:729 (6) - finish
    02:03:313 (9) - finish
    02:03:897 (1) - finish


[HD]

  • 00:16:173 (3,5) - 这俩滑条头尾没叠好
    00:22:406 (3,5) - 同上
    00:26:692 (6,7) - 这里来个串吧
    00:39:159 (8,9,10) - 这里要么分开要么往下放,横着很奇怪
    01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 跟上面一样 break 你看着办吧
    01:16:366 (8) - NC
    这个diff木有音效啊
Topic Starter
Guu

Kagamine Ren wrote:

姑爷爷ww

[General]
  • 一个set的最低难度星数必须小于2,所以这个NM不行,超的有点多,建议remap,我就不摸了ww

orz实在不会做低难度

[MX]

  • 00:04:192 (8) - 这个往左一点,好看好读 唔,往左也不是很好看的感觉。。总之调整了一下
    00:06:043 (9,1) - 保持跟后面的跳的间距吧 间距一样有点没意思,我把之前的滑条弯过来了不知行不行。。。
    00:08:868 (8,9,10) - overlap有点坑 没有哇只是折角而已O.O
    00:10:426 (7) - 这个跟前面距离那么远,是人玩的? orz我把它放到6后面好了
    00:11:108 (2) - 2和1重叠好一点 唔。。。这里还是分开吧=。=
    00:15:491 (12,1) - 距离稍微有点坑,不过也算是个梗啦,你看着办吧 坑坑坑,不坑诗人?
    00:16:757 (5,1) - 尽量避免这种垂直或者水平的滑条,弄一个角度,还有多拉弯一点的滑条,你这图直的太多了 是多了点。。。回头改改
    00:18:705 (1) - 滑条头尾颠倒一下 不错诶O.O,好评
    00:20:263 (6) - NC
    00:23:965 (8) - 这个滑条拉的跟左边对称多好看,顺便后面的四个滑条都可以这样,打起来也舒服 恩恩
    00:36:042 (6) - NC
    00:40:523 (1,2) - 太难了 唔似乎是。。。我回头自己再打打看
    00:46:659 (12,1) - 同上
    01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 我感觉这一段可以放break,前面转盘 还是留着吧。没看出哪里能加转盘吖o.o
    01:32:145 - NC
    01:35:067 (1,2,3) - 二分拍最好别跟连打间距一样 故意的。。。我再想想
    02:01:365 (8) - finish
    02:02:144 (3) - finish
    02:02:729 (6) - finish
    02:03:313 (9) - finish
    02:03:897 (1) - finish 果然不能心急啊。。。我这最后是漏了多少orz


[HD]

  • 00:16:173 (3,5) - 这俩滑条头尾没叠好 ;w;好难发现。。。叠好了
    00:22:406 (3,5) - 同上 ;w;同上
    00:26:692 (6,7) - 这里来个串吧 orz这个还是不要了吧
    00:39:159 (8,9,10) - 这里要么分开要么往下放,横着很奇怪 恩……移动了一下
    01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 跟上面一样 break 你看着办吧 唔,这个难度的正在考虑
    01:16:366 (8) - NC
    这个diff木有音效啊 喵……刚加完另两个难度还没来得及弄这个/ .\
蟹蟹w
Akatsuki Nagi
终于能写一次中文mod了,爽
那么说好的先MX >~<
[MX]

  • 00:16:757 (5,1) - 我感觉5和1分别ctrl+g打起来会舒服很多,你觉得呢>~<
    00:19:289 (3,5) - 唔。。这里好像没有太重复的节奏,这两个滑条不用摆的感觉重复吧,试试把5和00:18:705 (1) - 对称一下?【当然后面的00:20:263 (6) - 也要跟着改
    00:21:237 (10,11) - 这两个摆开来(不overlap)的话会好读很多,1pc我被坑到了T.T

    00:26:107 (5,6,1) - 这里我test的时候(好像)没读懂56是四分拍间距,后来重新test又感觉很好读的样子T.T 建议找人试试
    00:29:614 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - 这部分摆的有点乱了,控制一下note之间的间距吧>~<

    00:38:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里这样摆会读起来顺一点,大致是左边四分拍右边两分拍的规律的感觉,之前的摆法读到这里左边整个一条的缩圈看起来不齐【我会说我没读懂吗T.T

    00:40:328 (12,1) - 同上面那个往返,摆开来才好读。(非要说原理的话,如果不背节奏,短往返滑条后面跟物件都是目押击打的,如果放在往返滑条下面那实在不好目押)

    00:56:107 (1,2,3,4,5) - note间等间距吧,这样太丑了
    01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这段好喜欢!
    01:17:340 (5,6) - 同上,改不改都行,挺坑的
    01:36:430 (12,1) - 同上
    01:44:612 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个单点+原地连打出现了三次吧,我觉得这种地方全图出现一两次挺带感的,次数多了有点无聊。三次勉强还算能接受。
    01:54:353 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这个往返连打梗超喜欢w
    后面基本都摆的挺整齐的,赞一个。
    然后说一下整个diff的感受:
    以我的水平打这个MX还是挺吃力的,aim要求比较高,有几个地方也就是运气还行能勉强混上的程度T.T 打的时候比较明显的感觉是“太平了”,连打间距基本上是均匀的(所以有点累。。尤其是第二段kiai),只是整体之间略有变化(比较明显的第二段kiai大了一点能看得出来)。曲调实际上在这些连打段里有高低起伏,不过打的时候却并没有明显感受到变化。音效固然多少能体现一部分,但是间距的变动我觉得更重要一些。如果排列(哪怕只是后半段)里的间距能随着曲调的变化而变化我想这个图打起来会更爽。建议可以参考参考Hatsuki Yura - Yoiyami Hanabi结尾段的连打摆法,变化挺多的/w\
    音效方面感觉还挺好的。。就不书了orz


这首歌简直赞赞赞不能更赞lwl
听多了有点上瘾/.\
O.O 感觉做的很用心呢,继续加油啦qwq
rank了想凹个FC估计要费点心思了T.T
加油>~<
p.s. 附个传送门:Murata Ayumi - Triangle Wave
Topic Starter
Guu

Nagi awa wrote:

终于能写一次中文mod了,爽
那么说好的先MX >~<
[MX]

  • 00:16:757 (5,1) - 我感觉5和1分别ctrl+g打起来会舒服很多,你觉得呢>~< 你书得队>w<
    00:19:289 (3,5) - 唔。。这里好像没有太重复的节奏,这两个滑条不用摆的感觉重复吧,试试把5和00:18:705 (1) - 对称一下?【当然后面的00:20:263 (6) - 也要跟着改 恩恩这个不错哦
    00:21:237 (10,11) - 这两个摆开来(不overlap)的话会好读很多,1pc我被坑到了T.T
    其实是开着ds摆的…那稍微拉开一点吧

    00:26:107 (5,6,1) - 这里我test的时候(好像)没读懂56是四分拍间距,后来重新test又感觉很好读的样子T.T 建议找人试试 这种确实不太合理,本来改了一波结果漏掉了这个/.\
    00:29:614 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - 这部分摆的有点乱了,控制一下note之间的间距吧>~<
    调整惹一下>.<

    00:38:964 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里这样摆会读起来顺一点,大致是左边四分拍右边两分拍的规律的感觉,之前的摆法读到这里左边整个一条的缩圈看起来不齐【我会说我没读懂吗T.T

    嗯嗯嗯fixed
    00:40:328 (12,1) - 同上面那个往返,摆开来才好读。(非要说原理的话,如果不背节奏,短往返滑条后面跟物件都是目押击打的,如果放在往返滑条下面那实在不好目押)好p.p

    00:56:107 (1,2,3,4,5) - note间等间距吧,这样太丑了 恩恩换了一种排列w
    01:05:652 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这段好喜欢! / w\
    01:17:340 (5,6) - 同上,改不改都行,挺坑的
    01:36:430 (12,1) - 同上 都加大惹w
    01:44:612 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这个单点+原地连打出现了三次吧,我觉得这种地方全图出现一两次挺带感的,次数多了有点无聊。三次勉强还算能接受。 厚,那我改成两次好了w
    01:54:353 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这个往返连打梗超喜欢w wwww
    后面基本都摆的挺整齐的,赞一个。
    然后说一下整个diff的感受:
    以我的水平打这个MX还是挺吃力的,aim要求比较高,有几个地方也就是运气还行能勉强混上的程度T.T 打的时候比较明显的感觉是“太平了”,连打间距基本上是均匀的(所以有点累。。尤其是第二段kiai),只是整体之间略有变化(比较明显的第二段kiai大了一点能看得出来)。曲调实际上在这些连打段里有高低起伏,不过打的时候却并没有明显感受到变化。音效固然多少能体现一部分,但是间距的变动我觉得更重要一些。如果排列(哪怕只是后半段)里的间距能随着曲调的变化而变化我想这个图打起来会更爽。建议可以参考参考Hatsuki Yura - Yoiyami Hanabi结尾段的连打摆法,变化挺多的/w\
    明白你的意思,不过柑橘好难啊。。。我慢慢研究下;w;
    音效方面感觉还挺好的。。就不书了orz


这首歌简直赞赞赞不能更赞lwl
听多了有点上瘾/.\ 上瘾+65535,不过听太多会头痛orz
O.O 感觉做的很用心呢,继续加油啦qwq
rank了想凹个FC估计要费点心思了T.T qwq窝pass都要看脸
加油>~<
啊哇摸摸大(那个气泡熊抱心的表情)
p.s. 附个传送门:Murata Ayumi - Triangle Wave
KaedekaShizuru
from QQ
爷爷你萌都会做连打图
好难摸QAQ
本来想找前面的mod作参考结果发现你都re掉了?

[General]
跳coin注意 你需要一个Insane难度

[MX]
00:26:789 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 没有特别的理由建议不要用麻花连打 01:22:892 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) 同
00:34:289 (1) - 略偷懒 到00:34:679结束 不要漏掉00:34:971这个鼓点
00:39:549 (4) - 加倍需要NC
00:59:224 (1) - 和00:59:126 (12)衔接在一起比较好?
另外这段我不建议这么空 毕竟还是KIAI里
KIAI结束后那段我推荐多方一点二连
01:18:314 (2,3,4) - 相对后面衔接而言间距过大
01:19:873 (2,3,4) - ↑
01:30:392 (1) - 同00:34:289 (1) 可以拆出好多梗的说
02:03:313 (9) - ↑ 比如短滑条跳
02:04:677 (2) - NC

[HD]
SV1.4相比MX的2.2落差过大 这样导致这个难度整体看上去像是堆在一起放不开
你应该把这个难度当作insane来做
00:34:289 (1) - 像这样的slider我不太好发表什么看法不过最好还是不要这样拉
01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 作为hard太难了吧


[NM]
简化到跟鼓点 像这样鼓点很清晰的歌最好不要压在歌词上
00:11:692 (4) - 很微妙的感觉 相对00:10:913 (3)的位置来说
00:28:055 (1) - 这个遮挡对于NM来说太难了
01:10:327 (3,4,5,6,7) - 1/3的单点对于NM来说太难了
01:24:158 (1,2) - 遮挡太难了
01:56:495 (2) - ↑

美丽
加油
Topic Starter
Guu

KaedekaShizuru wrote:

from QQ
爷爷你萌都会做连打图
好难摸QAQ
本来想找前面的mod作参考结果发现你都re掉了?

爷爷……窝不会做啊QAQ

[General]
跳coin注意 你需要一个Insane难度

[MX]
00:26:789 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - 没有特别的理由建议不要用麻花连打 01:22:892 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) 同
呜啊这个我也是觉得不太好看但是不知道怎么改了……
00:34:289 (1) - 略偷懒 到00:34:679结束 不要漏掉00:34:971这个鼓点 唔……也不是偷懒啦,这里跟的主旋律,可能有点不自然吧,改掉了~
00:39:549 (4) - 加倍需要NC fixed
00:59:224 (1) - 和00:59:126 (12)衔接在一起比较好? 故意分开的,然后我也觉得不太自然。。。
另外这段我不建议这么空 毕竟还是KIAI里 其实第一段kiai我去掉了,AIMOD说我kiai时间过长……
KIAI结束后那段我推荐多方一点二连 没有找到其他能放二连的地方啊= =
01:18:314 (2,3,4) - 相对后面衔接而言间距过大 确实……想保留这个间距考虑弄个过渡但又不知道要怎么过;w;
01:19:873 (2,3,4) - ↑
01:30:392 (1) - 同00:34:289 (1) 可以拆出好多梗的说 嗯嗯同上
02:03:313 (9) - ↑ 比如短滑条跳 这个我觉得还好吧O.O
02:04:677 (2) - NC

[HD]
SV1.4相比MX的2.2落差过大 这样导致这个难度整体看上去像是堆在一起放不开 几乎全程ds真心放不开啊我太蠢;w;
你应该把这个难度当作insane来做 找insane的gd辣,这个还是hard吧
00:34:289 (1) - 像这样的slider我不太好发表什么看法不过最好还是不要这样拉 我觉得无比带感啊orz
01:04:678 (5,6,7,8) - 作为hard太难了吧 唔,似乎是的。。。改改改


[NM]
简化到跟鼓点 像这样鼓点很清晰的歌最好不要压在歌词上 唔。。那做出来就毫无变化了orz我太弱
00:11:692 (4) - 很微妙的感觉 相对00:10:913 (3)的位置来说 调整了一下O.O
00:28:055 (1) - 这个遮挡对于NM来说太难了 嗯。。。改了
01:10:327 (3,4,5,6,7) - 1/3的单点对于NM来说太难了 噫……我也一直在犹豫这里。前面也放了很多滑条来过渡到这个节奏,应该可以打吧。。
01:24:158 (1,2) - 遮挡太难了 fixed
01:56:495 (2) - ↑

美丽
加油
蟹蟹!QuO
Fushimi Rio
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Spiral
哇卡卡
zxhzxhz
姑爷爷我来了扑通
[General]
O.O
[MX]
美如画
00:05:929 (7) - Gtrl+G
00:09:435 (1) - 好别扭的走向orz 感觉有点浑♂身♂难♂受(_(:з」∠)_
00:12:552 (1,2,3,4) - 节奏可以试试这个样子的

00:19:760 (4) - 这个节奏有点不适应,这个4的尾巴压在白线上,下面的5就感觉有点乱(如果你考虑到vocal那当我没说
00:21:318 (1) - 这个地方我听了听感觉不是很明显_(:з」∠)_,如果能换成四分的连打就好惹(感觉改不改无所谓?
00:23:461 (6) - 还是听起来别扭Orz,特别是那个miss音的滑条QAQ 感觉这样?

00:53:461 (2,3) - 互换下位置
01:04:760 - 添一个短滑条
01:37:097 (2,3) - 两个都加白点
01:51:318 (4) - Gtrl+G
02:03:396 (4,5) - 什么鬼(我说我打的时候怎么老是断
怎么滑条大部分是直的QAQ是个人style么根本看不懂号码
不敢摸了(那个跑着哭的表情
小小吐槽下:那个重叠的单点的梗太没人性了,dt简直能玩
[HD]
感觉还是需要一些高质量的摸_(:з」∠)_
00:03:981 (3,4) - Blanket
00:05:539 (7) - 最好能弄弯_(:з」∠)_
00:12:358 (4) - 间距
00:16:838 (3) - 掰♂弯(貌似弯不弯都有感觉Orz
00:20:344 (5,6) - 形状和间距再仔细搞一搞
00:27:065 (6) - blanket
00:27:357 (7) - 弯的有点过了吧Orz
01:23:851 (1) - nc
01:28:137 (3) - 换成S形的滑条
02:03:981 (1) - 看起来有点蠢_(:з」∠)_
该no change就no change,不要勉强QAQ
[NM]
有点看不太懂,这样的排列真的可以么otz

摸完惹
点个赞,祝早日rank
Topic Starter
Guu

zxhzxhz wrote:

姑爷爷我来了扑通
zx爷爷 回扑通

[HD]
感觉还是需要一些高质量的摸_(:з」∠)_
00:03:981 (3,4) - Blanket
00:05:539 (7) - 最好能弄弯_(:з」∠)_ 这两个故意做成折角的。。看别人怎么说
00:12:358 (4) - 间距 调整了一点o.o
00:16:838 (3) - 掰♂弯(貌似弯不弯都有感觉Orz 不了吧Orz
00:20:344 (5,6) - 形状和间距再仔细搞一搞 微调惹一下
00:27:065 (6) - blanket 嗯嗯
00:27:357 (7) - 弯的有点过了吧Orz Orz改成圆的了
01:23:851 (1) - nc ok
01:28:137 (3) - 换成S形的滑条 唔。。不太明白你的意思。我这里是blanket的
02:03:981 (1) - 看起来有点蠢_(:з」∠)_ Orz改成直的了
该no change就no change,不要勉强QAQ
QAQ大部分都change辣。

[NM]
有点看不太懂,这样的排列真的可以么otz
OOOrz ……大概……吧?

摸完惹
点个赞,祝早日rank
谢谢谢QUQ
Autumn

NM

  1. SV略高
  2. 00:24:240 (5) - http://puu.sh/emwtx/0b97769615.jpg
  3. 00:25:799 (2) - 这个遮挡,作死 °ω°
  4. 01:21:903 (2) - ^
  5. 00:30:475 (2) - 被3挡住了,不好看

HD

  1. 00:20:344 (5) - NC
  2. 00:51:513 (7) - ^
  3. 00:32:422 (4,5) - 这里的节奏我觉得改成1/2滑条+1/2滑条比较合适,让两个重音落到滑条头上,同时避免了00:33:201 - 这里的漏音http://puu.sh/emwkR/f0e5e63c9c.jpg(顺便滑条最好使用NC)
  4. 00:36:123 (5) - 这里没有提示突然放3/4容易坑人,Hard间距什么的最好还是按常规来
  5. 01:32:227 (5) - ^
  6. 00:47:617 (3) - 第一个白点改成红点,和00:47:227 (2) - 平行比较好看
  7. 00:49:175 (3) - ^
  8. 01:02:422 (1,2) - 直接stack滑条尾比较好看
  9. 01:10:702 (3,4) - 分开来吧 http://puu.sh/emvXp/ab3319e73e.jpg
  10. 01:25:409 (5) - 这个和前后平行多好看

imouto's MX

  1. 有一些漏音本来是不用改的,但MX难度没了,现在你的难度成了最高难度,最好稍微排满一点
  2. 遮挡有点多,AR8稍微有点不够,弄个小数AR什么的玩玩
  3. 00:52:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 由于Stack Leniency的存在,最好摆开一点
  4. 01:03:981 (1,2,3,4) - 12和34错开一点,完全遮挡的短滑条容易被挑
  5. 00:59:890 - 01:01:448 - 漏音了,既然是kiai补全好一点.和01:00:669 (3,4,1) - 一样处理
    另外01:00:669 (3,4,1) -用了NC,但是01:56:773 (3,4,5) -又没用,最好统一一下
  6. 01:21:123 - 白线重音加个红点强调一下,像01:30:474 (1) - 一样
  7. 01:31:253 - 漏音,添上比较好
  8. 01:55:994 - 01:57:552 - 漏音,不如都和01:56:773 (3,4,5) - 一样处理

红点是门学问。用好了能大幅美化滑条,用不好的就起到相反效果。
有关红点的用法,参考Beren,kiiwa,niva和skystar后期少数滑条的画法(Colin弄得那种slider art就算了,学不来)
Topic Starter
Guu

Autumn wrote:

NM

  1. SV略高 嘤QuQ 这个真没法改了
  2. 00:24:240 (5) - http://puu.sh/emwtx/0b97769615.jpg 哇效果拔群
  3. 00:25:799 (2) - 这个遮挡,作死 °ω° orz改了。窝那会大概脑抽
  4. 01:21:903 (2) - ^
  5. 00:30:475 (2) - 被3挡住了,不好看
调整了

HD

  1. 00:20:344 (5) - NC
  2. 00:51:513 (7) - ^ 加了,还有其他几个地方也统一了下
  3. 00:32:422 (4,5) - 这里的节奏我觉得改成1/2滑条+1/2滑条比较合适,让两个重音落到滑条头上,同时避免了00:33:201 - 这里的漏音http://puu.sh/emwkR/f0e5e63c9c.jpg(顺便滑条最好使用NC) 唔,这里不是很想改……每个人对节奏的体会不同吧= =
  4. 00:36:123 (5) - 这里没有提示突然放3/4容易坑人,Hard间距什么的最好还是按常规来 诶诶;w; 窝还觉得是亮点呢。先放置一下看看别人怎么说……
  5. 01:32:227 (5) - ^
  6. 00:47:617 (3) - 第一个白点改成红点,和00:47:227 (2) - 平行比较好看 嗯嗯好看owo
  7. 00:49:175 (3) - ^
  8. 01:02:422 (1,2) - 直接stack滑条尾比较好看 改啦
  9. 01:10:702 (3,4) - 分开来吧 http://puu.sh/emvXp/ab3319e73e.jpg 分开了
  10. 01:25:409 (5) - 这个和前后平行多好看
嗯嗯


红点是门学问。用好了能大幅美化滑条,用不好的就起到相反效果。
有关红点的用法,参考Beren,kiiwa,niva和skystar后期少数滑条的画法(Colin弄得那种slider art就算了,学不来)
是啊滑条好难呢;w; 回头学学。 谢谢秋天~
Fushimi Rio

Autumn wrote:

imouto's MX

  1. 有一些漏音本来是不用改的,但MX难度没了,现在你的难度成了最高难度,最好稍微排满一点 有的空当加了圈 有的我觉得加了之后有点平平
  2. 遮挡有点多,AR8稍微有点不够,弄个小数AR什么的玩玩 8.5
  3. 00:52:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 由于Stack Leniency的存在,最好摆开一点 调了调位子 感觉舒服了点
  4. 01:03:981 (1,2,3,4) - 12和34错开一点,完全遮挡的短滑条容易被挑 改了顺序
  5. 00:59:890 - 01:01:448 - 漏音了,既然是kiai补全好一点.和01:00:669 (3,4,1) - 一样处理 我觉得不加好一点 排满了有点平淡
    另外01:00:669 (3,4,1) -用了NC,但是01:56:773 (3,4,5) -又没用,最好统一一下 统一了
  6. 01:21:123 - 白线重音加个红点强调一下,像01:30:474 (1) - 一样
  7. 01:31:253 - 漏音,添上比较好 加了
  8. 01:55:994 - 01:57:552 - 漏音,不如都和01:56:773 (3,4,5) - 一样处理 同之前

红点是门学问。用好了能大幅美化滑条,用不好的就起到相反效果。
有关红点的用法,参考Beren,kiiwa,niva和skystar后期少数滑条的画法(Colin弄得那种slider art就算了,学不来)
复出了?

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