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What´s the best moment to learn AR10?

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nooblet

buny wrote:

FrcV wrote:

Well, i think im in the skill level for start playing HR 3-4 star songs, but the thing that stops me its the AR9,8-AR10, because i can´t read anything except 9, but i don´t know if learning AR10 will make me any good because i´ve heard learning AR10 too fast makes you forget AR8 and even AR9, and that´s the last thing i want.

So, when it´s the best moment to start learning AR10?
when you can read everything below it
fix'd

In other news, you actually don't have to learn AR 10 until you get good enough to play maps that seriously require AR 10, when AR 9.7's not quite enough for it any more (since decimal AR's are a thing now, hopefully QAT's will be able to help with determining AR's before ranking. If it's unranked, well, change it yourself.) Plenty of players above the ranks people suggested cannot read AR 10 (like meee but I should probably be rank 10k). But, there are also HDHR fanatics like rrll who defy logic.
B1rd
The average is about 5K or under I think. But you don't need to learn it till about rank 400 or so, when AT8 DT isn't going to cut it anymore.
AmaiHachimitsu
Rank shouldn't bother you when deciding on when to start learning it.

If you feel you can play AR 9 comfortably then you can try adding hardrock to the maps you can FC nomod.

Don't get yourself centered around AR, practice everything.

In other words, don't think too much about it. Instead of various ARs, keep the distinction of two:

AR which I can follow
AR which is a bit too fast for me
uzzi
When you feel like it.
Vuelo Eluko
around 4k pp
chainpullz

nooblet wrote:

But, there are also HDHR fanatics like rrll who defy logic.
Did narrill just pick up a tablet after 15k plays and magically start fc sightreading hdhr like a god? That's what it feels like some days...*scratches head*
cheezstik

chainpullz wrote:

nooblet wrote:

But, there are also HDHR fanatics like rrll who defy logic.
Did narrill just pick up a tablet after 15k plays and magically start fc sightreading hdhr like a god? That's what it feels like some days...*scratches head*
Well, his account was registered 3 years ago, I don't mean to accuse, but there was likely some offline play done, it seems pretty crazy to me to be that good at that playcount.
Vuelo Eluko

cheezstik wrote:

Well, his account was registered 3 years ago, I don't mean to accuse, but there was likely some offline play done, it seems pretty crazy to me to be that good at that playcount.
it's well known he played offline/on another account
ETHICALMOUSEUSE
"What´s the best moment to learn AR10?"

Its the moment when you find the "HR" mod on Osu, sooner then later. Practing AR10 helps me deal with AR9 better
chainpullz

Hryukat wrote:

"What´s the best moment to learn AR10?"

Its the moment when you find the "HR" mod on Osu, sooner then later. Practing AR10 helps me deal with AR9 better
Ha, good joke. My ar9 aim is worse now than before I started spamming dt/hr for 2 months.
Bauxe
10AR is something you will just naturally learn. You don't need to go out of your way to learn it.
buny

nooblet wrote:

In other news, you actually don't have to learn AR 10 until you get good enough to play maps that seriously require AR 10, when AR 9.7's not quite enough for it any more (since decimal AR's are a thing now, hopefully QAT's will be able to help with determining AR's before ranking. If it's unranked, well, change it yourself.) Plenty of players above the ranks people suggested cannot read AR 10 (like meee but I should probably be rank 10k). But, there are also HDHR fanatics like rrll who defy logic.
AR8+DT is pretty much AR10 though
A lot of people are mistaking AR10 as hr, when in reality they just can't keep up with OD10

Anyways, I wouldn't even bother with AR10 until I get to insanes that I can't dt. No point in hr on hards since dt is much more valuable
nooblet

buny wrote:

AR8+DT is pretty much AR10 though
A lot of people are mistaking AR10 as hr, when in reality they just can't keep up with OD10

Anyways, I wouldn't even bother with AR10 until I get to insanes that I can't dt. No point in hr on hards since dt is much more valuable
If only ;w; ...

There's a world of difference between AR8+DT and AR10 for me ... 9.5~7 would be readable, whereas 10 on the exact same map is just ... death. It's funny to see the difference between the scores I get on a map at AR 10 and AR 9.5~7 >_>

But yeah the biggest problem with jumping into AR 10 is that most maps of that difficulty have high OD as well, which really requires you to have quite a bit of experience to have the accuracy required.
RaneFire

nooblet wrote:

There's a world of difference between AR8+DT and AR10 for me ... 9.5~7 would be readable, whereas 10 on the exact same map is just ... death. It's funny to see the difference between the scores I get on a map at AR 10 and AR 9.5~7 >_>
OD is indeed a large part, but I had the exact same experience as you. Even AR7+HR was way more readable than AR10, though the difference was only TEN milliseconds.

You'll have to learn AR10 the hard way, by playing it on those exact same maps and harder ones. Don't shy away just because it's slightly too hard. That just causes you to avoid the problem, instead of dealing with it. And it will stay that way until you decide to, which is what I had to do eventually, years afterwards. AR10 is its own thing, because AR8+DT reduces the fade-in time of the notes by comparison to AR9.66, whereas 10 doesn't (a significant portion of the note's uptime is spent fading in).

A quick fix at the time was also setting up my screen brightness, but I prefer darker settings, even below what is considered normal... I am a bit sensitive to bright lights, in that staring at a brighter screen causes me to become more sensitive to lights at night, especially when driving.
ivan

winber1 wrote:

in history class
Pengua

CptBlackBird wrote:

Jugachi can read ar10 at 10k rank,but imo at 5-3k rank
I was reading AR10 at 20k o.O
Just do it when you feel comfortable with it. And yes it made me hate AR8 for a while but I've started playing AR8 again. It just takes some practice.
GoldenWolf

Pengua wrote:

I was reading whack-a-mole* AR10 at 20k o.O
nooblet

GoldenWolf wrote:

Pengua wrote:

I was reading whack-a-mosu!* AR10 at 20k o.O
hue

@Rane

Yeah, I've been playing HR on songs I can SS/99.7+ with ease currently, they pretty much all end up at ~90% wth +5ms error (I guess AR 9.9 would be perfect? lol) 'cuz everything's late on average ... Unless I've practically memorized the map (like Wahrheit 'cuz I played that shit too much). Seems like it's gonna be a loooong time before I get used to this ...
chainpullz

nooblet wrote:

Yeah, I've been playing HR on songs I can SS/99.7+ with ease currently, they pretty much all end up at ~90% wth +5ms error (I guess AR 9.9 would be perfect? lol) 'cuz everything's late on average ... Unless I've practically memorized the map (like Wahrheit 'cuz I played that shit too much). Seems like it's gonna be a loooong time before I get used to this ...
Yeah, unless the map is just easy for me I have to retry like 20 times to get the rhythm internalized better. That and coffee. Coffee is the best mod that doesn't lower pp rewarded. I highly recommend playing HR + coffee.
Illkryn
I naturally picked up ar10 at around rank 20k doing multi with friends.

Dont' even bother with it m8, don't need it
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