supercell feat. Hatsune Miku - BLACK ROCK SHOOTER · forum

Zweib

Joined November 2011

Zweib 2014-12-27T08:25:13+00:00

Hello~ M4M,. sorry for delay because the Editor is soooooo lag after I update osu orz.

[Easy]
01:19:332 (1) - this spinner may be too short in Easy. It would be better if auto can spin 7~8k. And 01:21:877 (1) is also too close to the spinner. According to ranking criteria, you shouldn't put any note until 01:22:241

[Normal]
00:21:150 (1) - move down by 2 grid, it is overlapped with the score bar.
00:40:059 (4) - move 2 grid left?
00:44:423 (1) - 1 grid left?
00:54:605 (4) - move 1 grid right

[Hard]
00:06:242 (4) - 276,224?
00:41:151 (5,1) - why not stack? I didn't see any other similar pattern in this diff
00:46:605 (5) - keep consistent DS
00:48:059 (3,1) - slider bodies may be too close, move 00:48:787 (1) left by several grid.
00:59:696 (4,1) - make them symmetric to the center?
01:12:788 (3) - move left by several grid?
I'm clear that you set NC according to the vocal but the combo pattern looks kinda random. maybe you should add an NC every 2 stanzas, try to make them consistent.

[Milan-'s Insane]
fun diff

00:09:150 (5,6,7) - this triple is not consistent to others imo, you should move 00:09:240 (6) to 00:08:696
00:10:968 (1,2) - snapped to 1/6 to follow the drum? They are sliders so I think it would not be hard for play.
01:23:696 (1,2) - ^
00:09:877 (3,5,7) - add NC to these, make colorhax?

A's Extra is fun too but still needs much work with the rhythm and hitsound. sorry but I have no idea how to help ;w;

Good Luck!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

Topic Starter

-Nya- 2014-12-27T10:15:42+00:00

Zweib wrote:
Hello~ M4M,. sorry for delay because the Editor is soooooo lag after I update osu orz.

[Easy]
01:19:332 (1) - this spinner may be too short in Easy. It would be better if auto can spin 7~8k. And 01:21:877 (1) is also too close to the spinner. According to ranking criteria, you shouldn't put any note until 01:22:241 I left the spinner there, but I did delete that slider and placed a note 01:22:241 - instead.

[Normal]
00:21:150 (1) - move down by 2 grid, it is overlapped with the score bar. Okay, the tail's not overlapping the score bar anymore
00:40:059 (4) - move 2 grid left? I still have to keep my DS in mind and I'm not sure why you want me to move it . . .
00:44:423 (1) - 1 grid left? Fixed, I guess
00:54:605 (4) - move 1 grid right ^

[Hard]
00:06:242 (4) - 276,224? Okay
00:41:151 (5,1) - why not stack? I didn't see any other similar pattern in this diff Nah, I like my pattern like that
00:46:605 (5) - keep consistent DS Ok, fixed
00:48:059 (3,1) - slider bodies may be too close, move 00:48:787 (1) left by several grid. Ok, fixed
00:59:696 (4,1) - make them symmetric to the center? Fixed
01:12:788 (3) - move left by several grid? I decided to stack the slider on 01:12:605 (2) -
I'm clear that you set NC according to the vocal but the combo pattern looks kinda random. maybe you should add an NC every 2 stanzas, try to make them consistent. Made changes to the NC'ing in this diff. Hopefully it's better now
Good Luck! Thanks!

Thanks so much for your mod!

Shurelia

Global Moderator

2,771 posts

Joined December 2013

Shurelia 2014-12-27T16:01:49+00:00

おっす!やったよ!

~ From Lovely Modding Quest! ~

[General]

- I suggest to add "Black Rock Shooter" to the tags. since most people search this anime by using that name.

[Easy]

00:34:241 (2) - add finish on the head to make it syncronize with (1).
00:50:241 (1) - Add finish on the head so it'll sounds better
01:03:332 (3) - add clap on the reverse slider.
01:10:605 (1) - how about to change it so it'll looks like this ? http://puu.sh/dLlzq.jpg. Because the current one make 01:10:968 - feels empty.

[Normal]

- Already fine for me~

[Hard]

00:01:514 (3) - Move this a bit so it become straight from (2). Example : x : 172 , y:304
00:17:423 (7) - Should be removed since it didn't fit well with the song.
00:29:787 (6,7) - I'm recommending for stacking this, since it'll be too hard for a "hard" diff.
00:41:151 (5) - Since you usually stacking this with the next object, why not stacking this? I suggest to stack this so it'll be easy to read.

[Milan's Insane]

- Nothing to say here

Sorry but i had to skip extra diff since i'm still not good enough to mod it.

That's all for me, Hope this help. And good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2014-12-27T17:23:42+00:00

Zweib wrote:
A's Extra is fun too but still needs much work with the rhythm and hitsound. sorry but I have no idea how to help ;w;

Good Luck!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

Topic Starter

-Nya- 2014-12-28T10:01:30+00:00

Shurelia wrote:
おっす!やったよ!

~ From Lovely Modding Quest! ~

[General]
- I suggest to add "Black Rock Shooter" to the tags. since most people search this anime by using that name. Ok, added that to the tags

[Easy]
00:34:241 (2) - add finish on the head to make it syncronize with (1). Ok, fixed
00:50:241 (1) - Add finish on the head so it'll sounds better Ok
01:03:332 (3) - add clap on the reverse slider. Ok
01:10:605 (1) - how about to change it so it'll looks like this ? http://puu.sh/dLlzq.jpg. Because the current one make 01:10:968 - feels empty. Ok, followed your suggestion

[Normal]

- Already fine for me~ Yay!

[Hard]
00:01:514 (3) - Move this a bit so it become straight from (2). Example : x : 172 , y:304 Ok, good idea
00:17:423 (7) - Should be removed since it didn't fit well with the song. Ok
00:29:787 (6,7) - I'm recommending for stacking this, since it'll be too hard for a "hard" diff. I think it's fine
00:41:151 (5) - Since you usually stacking this with the next object, why not stacking this? I suggest to stack this so it'll be easy to read. I still think it's fine, cuz I want to make the diff a bit harder.
That's all for me, Hope this help. And good luck!

Thanks for your mod!

-Nya-

2,133 posts

Joined December 2011

Topic Starter

-Nya- 2014-12-28T10:03:10+00:00

@ Milan- and Avishay - Please update to latest version since I changed the tags.

moonlightleaf

2,155 posts

Joined September 2011

moonlightleaf 2014-12-28T13:12:35+00:00

[Easy]

00:18:605 (1) - i think use the shape(crtl+h) to void overlap

00:58:968 (1,4) - avoid overlap ,can try this

SPOILER

01:05:150 (4,3) - struck

[Normal]

00:09:514 (1) - blanket with 5,use this to check?(this is my way for checking blanket)

SPOILER

00:11:696 (4,5) - try

SPOILER

00:20:241 (4) - delete it, real stream is 00:20:241-00:20:332-00:20:423 imo

01:10:423 (5) - delete

01:14:059 (2) - change to note at 01:14:241

01:24:059 (4) - blanket will be more better

[Hard]

00:04:787 (4) - x|200 y|136

00:06:605 (1) - ds

00:08:059 (1) - maybe folw will be better

SPOILER

00:08:968 (3) - delete will better to play and read

00:10:968 (1) - change to 2notes? better to play

00:19:877 (5) - no vol here , delete

00:22:787 (2,3,4) - try

SPOILER

00:30:423 (2) - vol( 00:30:605 - ) in slider's middle listen badly

00:31:878 (5) - ^

01:04:605 (6,1) - bad flow,try

SPOILER

01:14:605 (4,1,2,3) - try

SPOILER

01:27:333 (4,1) - maybe 4 return 1time to end ?

-Actor-

41 posts

Joined October 2013

-Actor- 2014-12-28T23:18:27+00:00

~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2014-12-29T12:04:50+00:00

-Actor- wrote:
~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Try to be more specific about where, so Nya will be able to respond to your notes accurately.

Tsumetaku

732 posts

Joined May 2012

Tsumetaku 2014-12-29T16:01:07+00:00

HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

★ = Some overall comments
◆ = Suggestions
▲ = Unrankable stuffs

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▲ Black Rock Shooter in TAGS overlap with title...

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★ Great :3!!

═╪ N ╪═
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01:04:787 (1,2) - I feel kinda confused on this rhythm since it between at which the previous pattern follows 1/1 and next pattern follows vocal...
01:10:423 (5) - Maybe u can delete this one cuz on you follow vocal on previous pattern,and it doesn't affect in flow~ (and i feel more suit without 1/2 in here while clicking

═╪ H ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。
00:18:060 (8,9,10) - these triplets touches previous slider cuz to stack setting,u can pull them further to get rid of overlapping :>
00:59:514 (2,3,4) - ^
00:41:151 (5) - imo u should keep these more closer to 0.1x or further,because there's only an example like this in this map.
01:03:696 (2) - I think the bg drums can support little jumps here,try X:120 Y:212,These would be fun
01:04:423 (5) - ^ and X:308 Y:84
01:17:878 (4) - NC at here will be nice
01:19:696 (2,3) - Make the ds to 1.1x,looks kinda narrow now.

═╪ Milan-'s I ╪═
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★ Very Interesting Diff!!! I enjoy playing things like this XD
00:00:423 (1) - Ctrl+G will be more visible on these 4+1 pattern

═╪ A's EX ╪═
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★ I think the Drum hitsounds is a little bit annoying at here...
maybe can change by lowering the volume or replacing the hitsound sample(like using normal hitsound as clap at Insane
◆ Maybe just set CS to 4? it's an Extra and lower diff uses 4,3.5 is not forbidden but 4 is more suitable here.
00:09:150 (4) - remove the first and second clap on this reverse slider,sounds weird
00:29:211 (7) - remove finish,weird also espically its using 1/6
00:34:241 (2) - NC?
00:48:968 (1) - stack them,or unstack them~
00:52:423 (6) - Move the slider point to X:128 Y:256 to get better blanket

ag i tried new reply arrangement XD

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2014-12-29T20:33:05+00:00

Tsumetaku wrote:
HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

═╪ A's EX ╪═
。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。┅。
★ I think the Drum hitsounds is a little bit annoying at here...
maybe can change by lowering the volume or replacing the hitsound sample(like using normal hitsound as clap at Insane The only thing I'll do is decrease the volume by 5%
◆ Maybe just set CS to 4? it's an Extra and lower diff uses 4,3.5 is not forbidden but 4 is more suitable here. No thank you!
00:09:150 (4) - remove the first and second clap on this reverse slider,sounds weird You are right, removed.
00:29:211 (7) - remove finish,weird also espically its using 1/6 Nope, it fits just perfectly with the beats.
00:34:241 (2) - NC?No need to spam it anymore, 1 starts the new pattern.
00:48:968 (1) - stack them,or unstack them~ Stacked!
00:52:423 (6) - Move the slider point to X:128 Y:256 to get better blanket Fixed, thank you!

Thanks

SPOILER

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.699998

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Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
Artist:supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:A's Extra
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Black Rock Shooter Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay ryo
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OverallDifficulty:8
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[ Joey ]

390 posts

Joined May 2013

[ Joey ] 2014-12-29T23:41:57+00:00

Hey Nya! Sorry it took me so long to get to your mod =/

General

I recommend this hitsound for your clap: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav

Easy

00:03:696 - Remove the NC here, and add a NC here 00:05:150. I would also remove this NC 00:06:605
00:08:059 (2) - To match the pattern of your previous hitsounds, add a whistle here
00:13:150 (2) - I would adjust the position of this slider, so the head is at x: 288 y: 276, and then adjust the blanket accordingly. This makes it so you keep a nice curved cursor movement through these notes 00:11:696 (4,1,2)
00:12:787 - How come you don't use any claps in this section? You should be putting them on these beats 00:14:968 , 00:15:696 , 00:16:423 . For the claps in the middle of the slider, you should use a slidertick hitsound. Also, you should use this custom hitsound: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav . It's very commonly used, and it matches your music.
No reason to skip this note
00:29:514 (4) - I'd rather not see a slider end on a strong note like this. Try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dOBi5/2b9ea16933.jpg You can adjust it however you want, as long as there is a note starting on this beat 00:29:877 -
00:33:877 - I highly recommend you add a note here, especially because it sounds like the music is building up here
00:35:332 - ^
00:41:150 (3,1) - The change in flow is too much here. I recommend placement that looks more like this: http://puu.sh/dOBYj/a20bca3751.jpg
00:52:787 - Add a note here.
00:56:059 (1) - Move this slider to x:477 y:170 so it forms a nice triangle with 00:54:605 (4,5,1) -
00:58:968 (1,2) - Can improve blanket
01:00:787 (3,4) - ^
01:01:877 - I prefer that you adjust your combo so that a note starts on this important beat.
01:01:150 (4,1) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/dOD0t/84f1f992dc.jpg has better flow.
01:08:241 (1) - hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I think when you start a slider on a red tick like this, it is too hard for someone playing an Easy difficulty. You should ask someone who is experienced with Easy diffs.
01:26:787 (2) - ^
01:10:605 (1) - Lower this slider just a little. To around x:191 y:76

Normal

00:03:150 (6,1) - I would prefer something more like this: http://puu.sh/dODTH/e3c91a6c77.jpg
00:05:150 (3,4,5,1) - For this combo, I would turn hitcircles 3 and 4 into a slider. And I would turn slider 1 into two hitcircles. It matches the music better this way.
00:15:332 (1) - You shouldn't use extended slider when it causes you to miss a beat in the music. Refer to Kibbleru's Userpage If you scroll down, he talks about the use of extended sliders. I recommend you end the slider here 00:15:696 and go from there
00:21:150 (1,2,3) - The flow with this combo could use some work. Think about which way your cursor is moving to the slider heads. It kinda of creates an unpleasant feeling because the notes are lined up straight, but the sliders are forcing you to make these curvy movements. Sorry, I am aware I'm not explaining myself well. Here is what I would do with this combo: http://puu.sh/dOFKh/f7b89c679c.jpg
So where there is a really strong note like this, I highly encourage you to start a note here, rather than end a slider on it. This is a very important beatmapping practice that you should always be thinking about.
00:33:877 (4,5) - The flow here is lacking a little. Bending slider #5 the other way will help.
00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - I recommend you keep combos with a lot of half notes to a minimum in Normal difficulties. They are very hard for newbie players.
01:12:059 (4) - This isn't that big of a deal, but could you put the red anchor right in the middle of this slider, so it matches up with the clap?
00:58:968 - You have your claps on the wrong beats in the kiai. They should be on these beats: 00:59:332 - 01:00:059 - 01:00:787 - 01:01:514 - 01:02:241 - (i think you get the point lol)
01:03:332 (3) - I think a better way to express these finish notes is to make it 3 hitcircles, rather than a reverse slider.
01:21:877 (1,2) - Blanket could be better
01:23:696 (3,4) - ^
01:26:787 (1,2,1) - Something more like this looks better: http://puu.sh/dOHw1/e4dc7dbae9.jpg

Hard

00:06:242 (4,1) - This jump is lacking. Increase the distance to match the previous jumps.
00:12:787 - Like in the other diff, claps should be in this section
I wouldn't skip this 1/4 beat, because you have been mapping them previously in this diff, like right here: 00:14:514 (4) -
This note can be easily mistaken as a 1/2 note away because of it's distance snap. Either create a stacked anti-jump with 00:20:423 (7) , or increase the distance.
00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I really like this combo Good job
The flow can be improved by doing something like this: http://puu.sh/dP4Ml/72ab395f43.jpg
01:23:696 (4) - You skip a lot of 1/4 beat with this slider. I would consider mapping them
01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You skip some beats that should be mapped imo. Try something more like this: http://puu.sh/dP5bh/80a9eefbd7.jpg

Milan-'s Insane

Of course it's up to you, but I would personally name the difficulty Milan's Insane (without the -)
00:05:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would just repeat the same rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dP5Jr/54b973fcf6.jpg
00:44:968 - A note should be clickable on this beat. I recommend a rhythm more like this: http://puu.sh/dP6eF/a6ae36061d.jpg Adding some slightly larger jumps at this part would feel nice also.
01:06:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can make these jumps look a little neater. Try something like this (sorry its hard to see. I didnt move slider #1): http://puu.sh/dP6L5/74ef8b5066.jpg
01:25:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is just personal preference, but I would like it if these jumps were a little bigger. It feel like it would go with the music, and be a good way to close out the song.
Really solid difficulty. Nice work.

A's Extra

I highly recommend you don't use drum hitsounds for the whole thing. It's ok to use them to emphasize some notes, but I don't think it sounds good for the whole map. It also doesn't match the rest of the mapset. I remember reading your response to one of the other mods and you said something like "this is my diff and it's not related to the other difficulties." You shouldn't think that way. Your difficulty is supposed to coordinate with the other difficulties, making a nice spread for a mapset.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - I don't think you heard the music here correctly. These are just 1/4 notes. No need to use 1/6 notes here.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - You shouldn't be using 1/6 notes in this map. Although in this part I hear some 1/8 notes. Like this: http://puu.sh/dP9G3/46f010a138.jpg
I don't have much to say about this diff, because you have so much freedom in an Extra, it all comes down to opinion really
I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy.
EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"

Really nice mapset -Nya-!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2014-12-30T10:36:21+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote:
A's Extra
I highly recommend you don't use drum hitsounds for the whole thing. It's ok to use them to emphasize some notes, but I don't think it sounds good for the whole map. It also doesn't match the rest of the mapset. I remember reading your response to one of the other mods and you said something like "this is my diff and it's not related to the other difficulties." You shouldn't think that way. Your difficulty is supposed to coordinate with the other difficulties, making a nice spread for a mapset. I meant that as for I have my own maaping / hitsounding style and my difficulty represents it correctly.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - I don't think you heard the music here correctly. These are just 1/4 notes. No need to use 1/6 notes here. Well you should listen to this part at 25% Playback rate and you'll find you are wrong.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - You shouldn't be using 1/6 notes in this map. Although in this part I hear some 1/8 notes. Like this: http://puu.sh/dP9G3/46f010a138.jpg ^ In this case it follows the vocals then the beat.
I don't have much to say about this diff, because you have so much freedom in an Extra, it all comes down to opinion really
I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy. Every circle was placed with a thought and if you find anything messy, mention it specifically.
EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra" If that's true I will have to change it, but I will wait for a BAT to mention it.

Really nice mapset -Nya-!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Thank you for mod!

[ Joey ]

390 posts

Joined May 2013

[ Joey ] 2014-12-30T11:49:29+00:00

Avishay wrote:
[ Joey ] wrote:
[*]I think you should work on some neater / cleaner object placement. A lot of the times it feels like your objects have no purpose with the other objects, and it looks a little messy. Every circle was placed with a thought and if you find anything messy, mention it specifically.

/quote]

Thank you for mod!

Ok, if you insist.

Lack of blankets and stacking, with frequent overlapping cause your map to have a very messy look. You can say it's just your style, but most people dislike messy maps.

00:01:150 (3,4) - 00:04:059 (3,4) - 00:06:968 (2,3) - inconsistent with distance snap
00:03:696 (1,2,3) - Every note here is overlapping a previous note, and none of them have any sort of interaction with another note (i.e stack or blanket).
00:02:787 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This pattern feels pretty unpleasant. Maybe a picture will help you. I'll draw the cursor movement through this combo. http://puu.sh/dQq17/829dae19d4.jpg It feels so much nicer when patterns have a lot of sharp, back and forth, angles. Such as a star pattern or something. This pattern you have only has one sharp angle, from 7 to 1. The rest of your combo is very linear. Of course, this is all situational, you will find both linear patterns and angled in beatmaps. But this awkward flow you make, just feels funny. Even something simple like this would feel better: http://puu.sh/dQqP7/1b3785e336.jpg
00:06:787 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Even if there are 1/6 notes here (which I still disagree with), you still shouldn't use 1/6 notes. 1/4 and 1/8 notes work just fine. These 1/6 notes just feel random and don't sound good =/
00:11:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks like you tried to make the hitcircles symmetrical with the slider, but.....didn't i guess. I recommend making these symmetrical or adjusting this pattern.
00:20:059 (2,3) - Not blanketed
00:25:877 (3,4,5) - These sliders have no synergy with each other. The first one doesn't flow into the other one, they aren't the same shape, and don't even look good next to each other.
00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's are unecessary
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks like you tried to blanket the hitcircle with the stream, but missed.
00:52:059 (5,6) - Can blanket better
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - These 1/6 notes should seriously be removed (sorry to be redundant)

I asked a high level player to test play your map and tell me what he thought, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who thinks this way. This is what he had to say: http://puu.sh/dQrer/0358bf5f8b.jpg http://puu.sh/dQs6T/ca1beee454.jpg

Just overall, your object placement needs a lot of work. It's really hard to explain what makes good object placement. Really it just comes from experience and learning from other experienced beatmappers.

Also, I think you should consider modders' suggestions a little more. I know it's your map, and you want to keep your style, but from reading all these other mods, you seem a little stubborn to be honest. (I'm not saying you should accept every recommendation in a mod) I'm really not trying to be mean, and I sincerely apologize if I have hurt your feelings with anything I have said. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me. Message me any time

Good luck!!

hehe

1,959 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2014-12-30T11:51:24+00:00

m4m

[extra]
00:11:332 - map this. very awkward gap

apart from that, i'm going to refrain from modding this, i cannot understand your mapping style. if i do it'll probably a waste of your time and mine. apologies

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"

this is not necessary. A is fine if you think Avishay is too long.

[insane]
00:12:787 (2,3,4) - just neaten this by making one slider, copypaste and rotate by 120.
00:44:423 - drums in this portion are very distinct, instead of following the regular slider rhythm, you can use circles only for intensity. distinct drums on sliderends such as 00:44:968 - 00:45:514 - should really be emphasized with a circle, in my opinion.
00:58:059 (1) - here's a nice slider tip. since the voice is on the red tick at 00:58:423 - , you can make the elbow of the slider precisely at that point: http://i.imgur.com/tYpY3GW.png

[hard]
00:29:877 (7,1) - this is unnecessarily far. i dont see a need for much larger spacing here.

[easy]
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm, i think following vocals is fine. http://i.imgur.com/Dg19cEB.png plus you can NC 3 for a proper NC pattern here.
01:16:059 (4,1) - swap nc
nothing really stood out to me for normal. both are nice, flow diffs. really like the kiai in normal.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2014-12-30T16:34:44+00:00

Ok, if you insist.

Lack of blankets and stacking, with frequent overlapping cause your map to have a very messy look. You can say it's just your style, but most people dislike messy maps. Lack? They're not a must.

00:01:150 (3,4) - 00:04:059 (3,4) - 00:06:968 (2,3) - inconsistent with distance snap I know they're not consistent but I think it looks fine and plays fine as well.
00:03:696 (1,2,3) - Every note here is overlapping a previous note, and none of them have any sort of interaction with another note (i.e stack or blanket).
00:02:787 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - This pattern feels pretty unpleasant. Maybe a picture will help you. I'll draw the cursor movement through this combo. http://puu.sh/dQq17/829dae19d4.jpg It feels so much nicer when patterns have a lot of sharp, back and forth, angles. Such as a star pattern or something. This pattern you have only has one sharp angle, from 7 to 1. The rest of your combo is very linear. Of course, this is all situational, you will find both linear patterns and angled in beatmaps. But this awkward flow you make, just feels funny. Even something simple like this would feel better: http://puu.sh/dQqP7/1b3785e336.jpg I agree, it was awkward indeed and your explanation was great. I made a similar pattern.
00:06:787 (1,2) - Sloppy blanket Could've just said to fix the blanket, done.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Even if there are 1/6 notes here (which I still disagree with), you still shouldn't use 1/6 notes. 1/4 and 1/8 notes work just fine. These 1/6 notes just feel random and don't sound good =/ I have to disagree, first of all they sound great and play nicely, and just try to listen to it on 25% Playback rate while looking at the time line, those are 1/6 notes.
00:11:877 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks like you tried to make the hitcircles symmetrical with the slider, but.....didn't i guess. I recommend making these symmetrical or adjusting this pattern. No I didn't try to do that, it would have been less curvy if I tried to, and it looks just fine.
00:20:059 (2,3) - Not blanketed Yes it is? I just don't want the slider to be too curvy.
00:25:877 (3,4,5) - These sliders have no synergy with each other. The first one doesn't flow into the other one, they aren't the same shape, and don't even look good next to each other. They do have a synergy, there's a break point right between them, I didn't want 3 to flow directly into 5 and I think they have cool synergy.
00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - These NC's are unecessary They follow the drums, and there's no clear rules for NC, I've seen new ranked maps with NC spammed on streams.
00:38:605 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Looks like you tried to blanket the hitcircle with the stream, but missed. Fixed.
00:52:059 (5,6) - Can blanket better Nya needs to update the map from the mod before you, it was fixed then
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - These 1/6 notes should seriously be removed (sorry to be redundant) Nope.

I asked a high level player to test play your map and tell me what he thought, just to make sure I wasn't the only one who thinks this way. This is what he had to say: http://puu.sh/dQrer/0358bf5f8b.jpg http://puu.sh/dQs6T/ca1beee454.jpg

Just overall, your object placement needs a lot of work. It's really hard to explain what makes good object placement. Really it just comes from experience and learning from other experienced beatmappers.

Also, I think you should consider modders' suggestions a little more. I know it's your map, and you want to keep your style, but from reading all these other mods, you seem a little stubborn to be honest. (I'm not saying you should accept every recommendation in a mod) I'm really not trying to be mean, and I sincerely apologize if I have hurt your feelings with anything I have said. I will gladly answer any questions you have for me. Message me any time
Good luck!! I do consider every small note, before I deny something I check it several times to make sure I really think that it is not right. Whenever I say "It is my style", I mean that I don't want to be regular and repetitive, I do it in my way to be unpredictable and original. And obviously some people will dislike it, just like a lot of people dislike Doko's and Skystar's mapping styles, but some people like those too.

Thank you, I've learned some new stuff thanks to you.

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Last edited by Avishay 2015-01-02T12:21:58+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2014-12-30T16:35:57+00:00

handsome wrote:
m4m
[extra]
00:11:332 - map this. very awkward gap Hm? It is mapped, as the end of 00:11:211 (1) - If you're talking about what afterwards, it is not even a beat gap.

apart from that, i'm going to refrain from modding this, i cannot understand your mapping style. if i do it'll probably a waste of your time and mine. apologies

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention, your difficulty name "A's Extra" might be unrankable. I believe it's a fairly new rule, but GD's have to be the mapper's name. That's why Azer had to change his "Extrazer" diff names to "Azer's Extra"
this is not necessary. A is fine if you think Avishay is too long.

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2015-01-01T18:24:26+00:00

Hi! M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:24:423 (1,2) – move 2 down for better flow out of 1

00:30:605 (1,2,3) – the linear part of the 3 slider does not have the same slope as 1 and 2. Fix it so they have the same slope

00:44:423 (1,2) – blanket these better

00:54:605 (4,5,1) – it looks like you're running out of room. See if curving 00:53:150 (1) - and friends out further gives you more room like this: http://puu.sh/dUZwX/c8627a8dd1.jpg

00:59:696 (2,3,4) – these don't have perfect linear flow, as shown by this picture:
http://puu.sh/dUVsD/a05f8ee0c6.jpg
I recommend having these be linear. Try putting 01:00:787 (3,4) - at 111, 169

01:10:605 (1,2) – blanket these better

01:22:968 (2,3) – I think you should rotate this 35 degrees Counterclockwise for better flow from 1.
01:26:787 (2) – I think you should move left a little for better flow out of 1

[Normal]

00:06:605 (1,2) – 2 having better linear flow would be nice

00:08:787 (5) – move to 314, 106 for better linear flow out of 4

00:17:877 (6,7) – I'd like to see the flow into 7 be more circular and less triangular. Either that or make 00:18:605 (1) – lower to have better flow out of 7. Or both.

00:58:968 (1,2) – blanket these better
01:11:332 (3,4) – blanket these better

The hitsounds at the kiai felt like they could be improved. Right now the claps sometimes feel distracting, maybe because the volume is too loud. I tried putting the clap on the 3rd white tick of each measure and it works though it has its own problems. Definitely get some more opinions. These are what I didn't like about it.
The claps under sections like this were sorely missed 01:03:332 (3) - .
For a section like this that didn't fit the pattern, 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) - try having the head of 2 and 3 be claps.
01:14:059 (2) – this clap felt bad on a slider end, which I think is more indicative of the problem with the hitsound pattern than with the notes.
01:22:241 (2,3) – try having 3 be a finish and the reverse part of 2 not be a finish

01:13:514 (1,2) – odd. I don't like having this have x bigger than 240, try 240, 152

01:17:514 (3) – try 496, 232 for better flow

01:26:787 (1,2,1) – I think if 2 and 1 aren't perfect linear flow out of the slider, then the slider should curve further away from the linear flow. Basically, I would change it to something like this:
http://puu.sh/dULeJ/6d11c3c3db.jpg
or like this: http://puu.sh/dVQ2h/2590f47510.jpg

[Hard]

00:10:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – change the claps to finishes, you need different hitsounds than the previous combo because they are too different.

00:17:514 (7,8,9,10) – 7 and 8 overlap when playing the game because 8, 9, 10, are stacked. Move 8, 9, 10 over right 8 and down 8.
00:59:514 (2,3,4) – same issue ^
01:16:059 (5,6,7,1) - ^
00:23:333 (5,6) – same issue ^, the blanket is messed up, plus I think 00:24:060 (8) – isn't perfectly blanketed either.

00:32:423 (6) – try 447, 365
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4,1) – try 330, 76
00:52:241 (6,7) – try 250, 288

00:58:969 (1,2,3,4,5) – move all these down so you flow into 01:00:968 (6) - better

01:06:060 (5,6) – blanket these better

01:08:242 (2) – I think this should come directly out of the previous slider. i.e. move it +6 to y so that the slope from the end of 1 to 2 is 1.5, the same slope from the anchor to the end. Alternatively change the end of 1 to flow directly into 2

01:13:878 (2,3) – blanket these better

01:20:423 (5,1) – try these and slider head as drum-claps to continue that hitsound pattern

01:23:696 (4) – I liked the finish on the head and not on either the middle or tail.

01:23:696 (4,5) – 5 has a weird flow off of 4

01:23:696 (4,1) – I don't like this overlap

[Insane]

The claps sound really heavy and kind of take over the song too much. Try a volume of around 60% throughout the beatmap

00:33:514 (3,4) – I don't like stacking these on 1 and 2, instead I would rather see a contrast to the pattern 00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - . Try seeing if a symmetrical pattern would work.

00:41:150 (6,7,8) – didn't like the triple, try deleting 7. I like this change because it feels more of a rest time than an energy time. Miku stops singing, you come off a not common jump pattern, and you're about to launch into a new pattern. For all these reasons, I think it's better for the player to calm down with a simple stack instead of a triple.

00:58:968 (1) – consider making a slight sv increase here to emphasize the kiai section (I'm thinking about 1.1 or 1.15)

01:25:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – This didn't feel big enough as a finale. Try having 01:25:878 (5,6) - be spaced out more. I really think bigger jumps here has a good ending feel to it.

[Extra]

The drums did not sound good. The whistles here did sound good though 00:40:241 (2) - . I know it has been said in other mods, but I'll still fight you on this. The drums add way too much emphasis on parts that don't deserve emphasis. Because of this, your hitsounds overtake the music and I can't appreciate the song as much. Furthermore, when we get to the kiai section, a generally higher energy part of the song, the drums make it feel banal and boring because I'm so accustomed to the drums. There's no corresponding increase in energy in your map with the song. To make a comparison with distance snapping, it's as if you're putting really high jumps on really slow parts of the song. These are all concerns that I'd like to see addressed by argument rather than just hide behind the word style.

00:52:059 (5) - -1 to y for better blanket with 6

01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – I like to think of this as a climactic part of the song, and I don't think the stacks do it justice. Make me jump. For this reason, you may need to calm down 01:24:059 (2,3,4,5,6) – to give the player a small rest before jumping into a climax. But I think of the two sections, 01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – this should feel stronger, and I feel strongly about this.

Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-01-01T22:45:28+00:00

pinataman wrote:
[Extra]

The drums did not sound good. The whistles here did sound good though 00:40:241 (2) - . I know it has been said in other mods, but I'll still fight you on this. The drums add way too much emphasis on parts that don't deserve emphasis. Because of this, your hitsounds overtake the music and I can't appreciate the song as much. Furthermore, when we get to the kiai section, a generally higher energy part of the song, the drums make it feel banal and boring because I'm so accustomed to the drums. There's no corresponding increase in energy in your map with the song. To make a comparison with distance snapping, it's as if you're putting really high jumps on really slow parts of the song. These are all concerns that I'd like to see addressed by argument rather than just hide behind the word style.

00:52:059 (5) - -1 to y for better blanket with 6

01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – I like to think of this as a climactic part of the song, and I don't think the stacks do it justice. Make me jump. For this reason, you may need to calm down 01:24:059 (2,3,4,5,6) – to give the player a small rest before jumping into a climax. But I think of the two sections, 01:24:968 (1,2,3,4) – this should feel stronger, and I feel strongly about this.

Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

I honestly don't dislike the hitsounds, but I guess they can be better, I've fixed / changed what you've noted and I will rework the hitsounds tomorrow.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-01-03T13:51:12+00:00

Alright, I finished doing the hitsounds again, I used the normal and soft sets, but without any custom hitsounds, I think it is fine, I also changed some patterns in the diff as well.

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Pappy

1,020 posts

Joined August 2013

Pappy 2015-01-08T20:56:33+00:00

LATE but M4M here. Sorry for delay.

General

Remove tv size from tags and add tv_size. When you write "tv" in search, you'll find nothing. (it's too short word)
Hitsounding is strange, the good way to it choosed Milan-. You should do these like him. :>

A's Extra

Hitsounding is strange. You should use Hitsound Copier or something and copy Milan-'s or -Nya-'s hitsounds (if he agree.)
This diff is really overmapped. Unwanted 1/6 sounds/plays bad.

Milan

00:05:514 (3) - It should be 1/2 than note at 00:05:787 , it's confusing. ;w;
No problems here, nice diff as always. <3

Hard

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - It's not good place for jump, music doesn't call for it.
00:09:878 (2) - Ctrl+G for nice flow with (1)
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - plz no 170 BPM streams in hard diff. ;_;
01:07:696 (1) - What about deleting it and insert here Ctrl+C 01:06:968 (8) (Use Ctrl+G on it after copy) for better looking.
01:12:060 (4) - You should do the same with 01:11:332 (3) (after it move 01:12:605 (5) )

00:54:605 (1,2,3) - What about this? If you want it, delete previous ones and insert into .osu this:

Here

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348,98,54968,2,0,P|378:140|414:150,1,70
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Normal

It isn't bad. I don't have any advices to this diff, sorry. :<

Easy

00:21:877 (2,3,4) - Try to dothisfor symmetry

The map isn't bad, but you should improve visual side of map, spacing issues on hard and definietly hitsounds.

Good luck with this!

Sorry for a bit short mod. >.<

Arcubin

689 posts

Joined September 2013

Arcubin 2015-01-09T13:55:08+00:00

from Q

~~it's my 3rd time modding BRS song `w`~~ nvm that

[General]

Remove normal-slidertick from folder since you doesn't use it to tick anything the whole mapset
personally i don't like your hitsounding :3

[Easy]
00:21:150 (1) - i don't think this flow is good ._.
00:44:423 (1,2) - blanket
00:55:696 (5) - if you want, this circle can be removed so it follow vocal better and lower the diff a bit (tho.. it's your oppinion)
00:58:968 (1,2) - if this is supposed to be blanket then fix it... if no then ignore this
01:00:787 (3,4) - blanket better
01:08:241 (1) - move the tail a bit upper to get better flow
01:18:241 (3,4) - fix blanket?

quite good, but note intensity is kind like harder than easy

[Normal]
00:01:696 (3,4) - blanket with end better
00:08:787 (5,1) - blanket better
00:10:605 (2,3) - ^
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^
00:22:241 (2,3) - ^
00:29:514 (6) - maybe change 00:29:877 - to circle since it's a potential downbeat
00:35:332 (7,1) - blanket?
00:40:059 (4) - fix the end part as a standing slider?
00:46:241 (3,4) - blanket
01:11:332 (3,4) - wanna fix
01:18:241 (4,5,6) - might too harsh for a "real" normal
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4) - blanket

so much blanket problem, too much 1/2 stream for a normal

[Hard]
00:07:696 (4,1) - not good anti-jump :3
00:29:514 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/dXcuZ.jpg some hard player can't read circle behind slider :<
00:30:423 (2,3) - why don't make a better flow? like http://puu.sh/eheQT.jpg http://puu.sh/ehf1V.jpg
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this look nicer?
00:41:151 (5,1) - this anti-jump isn't inteded to follow anything... consider to stac properly
00:42:060 (2,3) - fix blanket
00:45:514 (3,4) - make this straight look nicer http://puu.sh/ehfwd.jpg
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - in many case, stream with more than 5 note isn't pleased for hard. well, just pointing out don't mind this if you want this stream
00:49:877 (4,1) - blanket fix (slider body blanket i mean)
01:02:605 (3) - ctrl+g, rotate by -53 degree and move to (176,320)
01:14:605 (4,1) - please change... ;w; this is so bad
01:16:423 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:19:696 (2,3) - ^
01:26:787 (1,2,3) - it will be good if you separate each note

[Milan-'s Insane]
00:41:514 (1) - add finish at start
00:47:332 (1) - ^

this one is good :>

[A's Extra]
i can't get what you're following :> by the way, it's not an extra. it's till considered as insane tho it's harder than milan-'s insane. and NC placing is still bad

00:12:423 (5) - add finish
00:25:150 (1) - why there's finish on head?
00:25:150 - normal hitsound? not good... change it to soft instead
00:25:150 (1,3) - please this overlap... =w=
00:44:696 (2) - this slider kinda bad. cause it's occur 3/4 beats before a circle. try remap this section
00:52:877 (7,1) - overlap =w=
01:10:756 (1) - what this slider is following?
01:16:059 (1) - slider isn't visible cause of hitburst. try move it away
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g

i don't know... there's so much overmapped note ;w;

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-01-09T16:55:30+00:00

azintairin710 wrote:
[A's Extra]
i can't get what you're following :> by the way, it's not an extra. it's till considered as insane tho it's harder than milan-'s insane. and NC placing is still bad

00:12:423 (5) - add finish V
00:25:150 (1) - why there's finish on head? Oops.
00:25:150 - normal hitsound? not good... change it to soft instead Nope
00:25:150 (1,3) - please this overlap... =w= That's fine.
00:44:696 (2) - this slider kinda bad. cause it's occur 3/4 beats before a circle. try remap this section The only thing I fixed is 00:44:423 (1) - 's placement
00:52:877 (7,1) - overlap =w= You'll survive, I think this overlap is neat.
01:10:756 (1) - what this slider is following? The beat? Listen to the song at 25% Playback rate.
01:16:059 (1) - slider isn't visible cause of hitburst. try move it away I think it's fine since you can see the slider itself, but I also have fixed the arrangement of 01:15:696 (1,2,3,4) -
01:24:514 (5) - ctrl+g It is on purpose.

i don't know... there's so much overmapped note ;w; I'll have to disagree

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Milan-

1,473 posts

Joined August 2011

Milan- 2015-01-10T02:34:44+00:00

so much mods D:

changed some hitsounds, the rest is just fine asda

mapp

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Miku_Hatsune_-_Black_Rock_Shooter_[TV_[mp3clan_con.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 58968
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2.2

[Metadata]
Title:BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
TitleUnicode:ブラック★ロックシューター
Artist:supercell feat. Hatsune Miku
ArtistUnicode:supercell feat. 初音ミク
Creator:-Nya-
Version:Milan-'s Insane
Source:ブラック★ロックシューター
Tags:opening Black Rock Shooter Burakku Rokku Shuta Vocaloid Vocaloid2 tv size milan- Avishay ryo
BeatmapID:521681
BeatmapSetID:217628

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"BRS.jpg",0,0
Video,840,"Black Rock Shooter.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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58059,-200,4,2,0,70,0,0
58968,-100,4,2,0,70,0,1
88059,-100,4,2,0,70,0,0


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Combo2 : 0,125,251
Combo3 : 131,131,131
Combo4 : 132,132,255

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260,77,85150,5,4,0:0:0:0:
331,192,85332,1,0,0:0:0:0:
395,71,85514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
230,79,85696,1,4,0:0:0:0:
328,172,85878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
358,39,86060,1,0,0:0:0:0:
201,90,86241,1,4,0:2:0:0:
320,154,86423,1,4,1:2:0:0:
320,154,86787,5,0,1:0:0:0:
369,280,86968,1,0,1:0:0:0:
467,141,87150,1,0,1:0:0:0:
444,311,87332,2,0,P|379:359|303:329,1,170,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
467,141,88059,5,4,0:0:0:0:

-Nya-

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-Nya- 2015-01-10T08:35:41+00:00

moonlightleaf wrote:
[Easy]

00:18:605 (1) - i think use the shape(crtl+h) to void overlap Nah, I did that overlap on purpose.

00:58:968 (1,4) - avoid overlap ,can try this Thanks for the suggestion, but the overlap is not such a big problem, so no change, but if other modders mention this as well then I'll consider changing it.
SPOILER

01:05:150 (4,3) - struck Fixed the stack.

[Normal]

00:09:514 (1) - blanket with 5,use this to check?(this is my way for checking blanket) Tried my best to improve the blanket
SPOILER

00:11:696 (4,5) - try Followed your suggestion
SPOILER

00:20:241 (4) - delete it, real stream is 00:20:241-00:20:332-00:20:423 imo No, I think this stream is fine.

01:10:423 (5) - delete I'll delete this one

01:14:059 (2) - change to note at 01:14:241 Nah, I think the slider there is fine

01:24:059 (4) - blanket will be more better I did that kind of blanket on purpose. I want the slider to be curved more

[Hard]

00:04:787 (4) - x|200 y|136 Ok, fixed

00:06:605 (1) - ds Looks fine to me . . .

00:08:059 (1) - maybe folw will be better No, I think the flow is better if I keep the slider like this.
SPOILER

00:08:968 (3) - delete will better to play and read No, I disagree. Won't the flow then be a little confusing?

00:10:968 (1) - change to 2notes? better to play Nah, no need. I like the two sliders better for something else

00:19:877 (5) - no vol here , delete Ok, deleted that note

00:22:787 (2,3,4) - try Followed your suggestion
SPOILER

00:30:423 (2) - vol( 00:30:605 - ) in slider's middle listen badly I don't really know what you want me to do here.

00:31:878 (5) - ^ ^

01:04:605 (6,1) - bad flow,try Ok, followed your advice
SPOILER

01:14:605 (4,1,2,3) - try Followed your suggestion in a way
SPOILER

01:27:333 (4,1) - maybe 4 return 1time to end ? No, it's better to add a circle there for emphasis.

Thanks for the mod!

-Nya-

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-Nya- 2015-01-10T08:40:01+00:00

-Actor- wrote:
~Testplay request~
☯Easy
Everything is really good but some notes (just soooomee) are just like extras that don't really need to be there.
☯Normal
All good but when it came to Kiai time you repeated the pattern sometimes of putting the circles near/close the sliders.
☯Hard
-All good-

Thanks for the testplay, but I didn't really change anything.
Avishay is right. You should try to point out the issues more specifically.

-Nya-

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-Nya- 2015-01-10T08:51:28+00:00

Tsumetaku wrote:
HIIII
From My Vocaloid Queue~~

Haha I always looks forward to that someone could make a new version for BRS >u<!!!

★ = Some overall comments
◆ = Suggestions
▲ = Unrankable stuffs

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▲ Black Rock Shooter in TAGS overlap with title... I placed this in tags cuz the title is in caps and maybe players will search for the map like this instead?

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01:04:787 (1,2) - I feel kinda confused on this rhythm since it between at which the previous pattern follows 1/1 and next pattern follows vocal... I think it's fine.
01:10:423 (5) - Maybe u can delete this one cuz on you follow vocal on previous pattern,and it doesn't affect in flow~ (and i feel more suit without 1/2 in here while clicking Yeah, already deleted that note

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00:18:060 (8,9,10) - these triplets touches previous slider cuz to stack setting,u can pull them further to get rid of overlapping :> They're not touching the slider . . .
00:59:514 (2,3,4) - ^ ^
00:41:151 (5) - imo u should keep these more closer to 0.1x or further,because there's only an example like this in this map. I tried something else there . . . I guess I can fix it if another modder complains about it.
01:03:696 (2) - I think the bg drums can support little jumps here,try X:120 Y:212,These would be fun I'll rather keep it as it is now
01:04:423 (5) - ^ and X:308 Y:84 ^
01:17:878 (4) - NC at here will be nice No, I have to keep my NC's consistent
01:19:696 (2,3) - Make the ds to 1.1x,looks kinda narrow now. Ok
ag i tried new reply arrangement XD

Thanks for the mod!

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-Nya- 2015-01-10T10:21:14+00:00

[ Joey ] wrote:
Hey Nya! Sorry it took me so long to get to your mod =/

General

I recommend this hitsound for your clap: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav Thanks for this file!

Easy
00:03:696 - Remove the NC here, and add a NC here 00:05:150. I would also remove this NC 00:06:605 Ok, fixed
00:08:059 (2) - To match the pattern of your previous hitsounds, add a whistle here Ok, added the whistle
00:13:150 (2) - I would adjust the position of this slider, so the head is at x: 288 y: 276, and then adjust the blanket accordingly. This makes it so you keep a nice curved cursor movement through these notes 00:11:696 (4,1,2) Ok, fixed that
00:12:787 - How come you don't use any claps in this section? You should be putting them on these beats 00:14:968 , 00:15:696 , 00:16:423 . For the claps in the middle of the slider, you should use a slidertick hitsound. Also, you should use this custom hitsound: http://puu.sh/dOAw3/d45f99dc93.wav . It's very commonly used, and it matches your music.I used that sound file, but I rather want that clap hitsounds in my kiai time.
No reason to skip this note Where?
00:29:514 (4) - I'd rather not see a slider end on a strong note like this. Try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/dOBi5/2b9ea16933.jpg You can adjust it however you want, as long as there is a note starting on this beat 00:29:877 - Ok, followed your suggestion
00:33:877 - I highly recommend you add a note here, especially because it sounds like the music is building up here Ok
00:35:332 - ^ Ok
00:41:150 (3,1) - The change in flow is too much here. I recommend placement that looks more like this: http://puu.sh/dOBYj/a20bca3751.jpg I think the flow is fine. It forms a nice triangle shape with 00:40:423 (2,3) -
00:52:787 - Add a note here. No, the music doesn't really support it
00:56:059 (1) - Move this slider to x:477 y:170 so it forms a nice triangle with 00:54:605 (4,5,1) - Ok, fixed
00:58:968 (1,2) - Can improve blanket Tried my best to improve it
01:00:787 (3,4) - ^ ^
01:01:877 - I prefer that you adjust your combo so that a note starts on this important beat. Ok, fixed
01:01:150 (4,1) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/dOD0t/84f1f992dc.jpg has better flow. Followed your suggestion
01:08:241 (1) - hmmm, I'm not sure about this one. I think when you start a slider on a red tick like this, it is too hard for someone playing an Easy difficulty. You should ask someone who is experienced with Easy diffs. I think it's fine, but I will see what other modders say
01:26:787 (2) - ^ ^
01:10:605 (1) - Lower this slider just a little. To around x:191 y:76 Ok

Normal
00:03:150 (6,1) - I would prefer something more like this: http://puu.sh/dODTH/e3c91a6c77.jpg Ok, followed your suggestion
00:05:150 (3,4,5,1) - For this combo, I would turn hitcircles 3 and 4 into a slider. And I would turn slider 1 into two hitcircles. It matches the music better this way. Nah, I think it's fine as it is now
00:15:332 (1) - You shouldn't use extended slider when it causes you to miss a beat in the music. Refer to Kibbleru's Userpage If you scroll down, he talks about the use of extended sliders. I recommend you end the slider here 00:15:696 and go from there Ok
00:21:150 (1,2,3) - The flow with this combo could use some work. Think about which way your cursor is moving to the slider heads. It kinda of creates an unpleasant feeling because the notes are lined up straight, but the sliders are forcing you to make these curvy movements. Sorry, I am aware I'm not explaining myself well. Here is what I would do with this combo: http://puu.sh/dOFKh/f7b89c679c.jpg Followed your suggestion
So where there is a really strong note like this, I highly encourage you to start a note here, rather than end a slider on it. This is a very important beatmapping practice that you should always be thinking about. Where?
00:33:877 (4,5) - The flow here is lacking a little. Bending slider #5 the other way will help. Ok
00:50:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - I recommend you keep combos with a lot of half notes to a minimum in Normal difficulties. They are very hard for newbie players. Well, a Normal isn't really meant for newbies, so I think those notes are fine.
01:12:059 (4) - This isn't that big of a deal, but could you put the red anchor right in the middle of this slider, so it matches up with the clap? I think I'll keep it as it is now
00:58:968 - You have your claps on the wrong beats in the kiai. They should be on these beats: 00:59:332 - 01:00:059 - 01:00:787 - 01:01:514 - 01:02:241 - (i think you get the point lol) Ok, fixed the claps
01:03:332 (3) - I think a better way to express these finish notes is to make it 3 hitcircles, rather than a reverse slider. Ok, followed your advice
01:21:877 (1,2) - Blanket could be better Improved the blanket
01:23:696 (3,4) - ^ This was on purpose
01:26:787 (1,2,1) - Something more like this looks better: http://puu.sh/dOHw1/e4dc7dbae9.jpg Ok, fixed

Hard
00:06:242 (4,1) - This jump is lacking. Increase the distance to match the previous jumps. Ok, increased the distance
00:12:787 - Like in the other diff, claps should be in this section I rather just want them in kiai time
I wouldn't skip this 1/4 beat, because you have been mapping them previously in this diff, like right here: 00:14:514 (4) - I don't know what you're referring to
This note can be easily mistaken as a 1/2 note away because of it's distance snap. Either create a stacked anti-jump with 00:20:423 (7) , or increase the distance. I think I made a different change there
00:45:878 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - I really like this combo Good job Thanks!
The flow can be improved by doing something like this: http://puu.sh/dP4Ml/72ab395f43.jpg No change, I think it's fine
01:23:696 (4) - You skip a lot of 1/4 beat with this slider. I would consider mapping them I think that slider fits better. The vocals suggests it
01:25:151 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You skip some beats that should be mapped imo. Try something more like this: http://puu.sh/dP5bh/80a9eefbd7.jpg I like it. Followed your suggestion
Really nice mapset -Nya-! Thanks!
Thanks so much for the m4m
Good luck!

Thanks so much for the helpful mod and the star!

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-Nya- 2015-01-12T06:51:13+00:00

handsome wrote:
m4m
[hard]
00:29:877 (7,1) - this is unnecessarily far. i dont see a need for much larger spacing here. Yeah, ok, Ctrl+G this slider: 00:29:514 (5) - to make the spacing less.
[easy]
00:21:150 (1,2,3,4) - weird rhythm, i think following vocals is fine. http://i.imgur.com/Dg19cEB.png plus you can NC 3 for a proper NC pattern here. I think the rhythm is just fine, so no change, and if I NC 3 it will make my NC patterns inconsistent, so no change.
01:16:059 (4,1) - swap nc No, I think the NC should start on 01:16:423 (1) -
nothing really stood out to me for normal. both are nice, flow diffs. really like the kiai in normal. Thanks!

Thanks so much for the mod!

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-Nya- 2015-01-12T08:04:02+00:00

pinataman wrote:
Hi! M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Easy]

00:24:423 (1,2) – move 2 down for better flow out of 1 Ok, fixed

00:30:605 (1,2,3) – the linear part of the 3 slider does not have the same slope as 1 and 2. Fix it so they have the same slope Ok, tried my best to fix that

00:44:423 (1,2) – blanket these better The blanket looks perfect to me . . .

00:54:605 (4,5,1) – it looks like you're running out of room. See if curving 00:53:150 (1) - and friends out further gives you more room like this: http://puu.sh/dUZwX/c8627a8dd1.jpg Nah, not really such a big issue.

00:59:696 (2,3,4) – these don't have perfect linear flow, as shown by this picture:
http://puu.sh/dUVsD/a05f8ee0c6.jpg
I recommend having these be linear. Try putting 01:00:787 (3,4) - at 111, 169 Ok, fixed

01:10:605 (1,2) – blanket these better Made a slight adjustment

01:22:968 (2,3) – I think you should rotate this 35 degrees Counterclockwise for better flow from 1. Ok, fixed
01:26:787 (2) – I think you should move left a little for better flow out of 1 I made a blanket there

[Normal]

00:06:605 (1,2) – 2 having better linear flow would be nice Nah, I made a triangle shape there

00:08:787 (5) – move to 314, 106 for better linear flow out of 4 Ok, fixed

00:17:877 (6,7) – I'd like to see the flow into 7 be more circular and less triangular. Either that or make 00:18:605 (1) – lower to have better flow out of 7. Or both. I think the flow is fine

00:58:968 (1,2) – blanket these better The blanket looks fine to me
01:11:332 (3,4) – blanket these better ^

The hitsounds at the kiai felt like they could be improved. Right now the claps sometimes feel distracting, maybe because the volume is too loud. I tried putting the clap on the 3rd white tick of each measure and it works though it has its own problems. Definitely get some more opinions. These are what I didn't like about it. I changed my clap pattern already since [ Joey ] had also said so.
The claps under sections like this were sorely missed 01:03:332 (3) - . I prefer the finish there
For a section like this that didn't fit the pattern, 01:07:696 (1,2,3,4) - try having the head of 2 and 3 be claps. ^
01:14:059 (2) – this clap felt bad on a slider end, which I think is more indicative of the problem with the hitsound pattern than with the notes. Yeah, I already fixed the clap pattern
01:22:241 (2,3) – try having 3 be a finish and the reverse part of 2 not be a finish Ok, fixed

01:13:514 (1,2) – odd. I don't like having this have x bigger than 240, try 240, 152 Fixed

01:17:514 (3) – try 496, 232 for better flow Ok, fixed

01:26:787 (1,2,1) – I think if 2 and 1 aren't perfect linear flow out of the slider, then the slider should curve further away from the linear flow. Basically, I would change it to something like this: I don't want the pattern to be a straight line. I rather prefer it in a circular pattern
http://puu.sh/dULeJ/6d11c3c3db.jpg
or like this: http://puu.sh/dVQ2h/2590f47510.jpg

[Hard]

00:10:968 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – change the claps to finishes, you need different hitsounds than the previous combo because they are too different. Ok, fixed

00:17:514 (7,8,9,10) – 7 and 8 overlap when playing the game because 8, 9, 10, are stacked. Move 8, 9, 10 over right 8 and down 8. I'm not sure if I followed your suggestion, but I made a change there.
00:59:514 (2,3,4) – same issue ^ ^
01:16:059 (5,6,7,1) - ^ I'm going to keep this one stacked
00:23:333 (5,6) – same issue ^, the blanket is messed up, plus I think 00:24:060 (8) – isn't perfectly blanketed either. Made changes there

00:32:423 (6) – try 447, 365 Ok, fixed
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4,1) – try 330, 76 I don't really understand this suggestion, so no change
00:52:241 (6,7) – try 250, 288 Ok

00:58:969 (1,2,3,4,5) – move all these down so you flow into 01:00:968 (6) - better The flow looks fine to me

01:06:060 (5,6) – blanket these better The blanket looks fine to me

01:08:242 (2) – I think this should come directly out of the previous slider. i.e. move it +6 to y so that the slope from the end of 1 to 2 is 1.5, the same slope from the anchor to the end. Alternatively change the end of 1 to flow directly into 2 This explanation is too confusing, but I did make a change

01:13:878 (2,3) – blanket these better Made a slight adjustment

01:20:423 (5,1) – try these and slider head as drum-claps to continue that hitsound pattern Added a drum-clap on the slider head

01:23:696 (4) – I liked the finish on the head and not on either the middle or tail. I think the finish fits the tail better

01:23:696 (4,5) – 5 has a weird flow off of 4 Made a change there

01:23:696 (4,1) – I don't like this overlap It's not really an issue since it's a Hard but I will see what other modders say as well
Good map overall, but please please please please please change the drum hitsounds.

Thanks for the m4m!

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-Nya- 2015-01-12T10:28:07+00:00

Pappy wrote:
General
Remove tv size from tags and add tv_size. When you write "tv" in search, you'll find nothing. (it's too short word) Fixed the tags
Hitsounding is strange, the good way to it choosed Milan-. You should do these like him. :>
Hard
00:07:332 (2,3,4) - It's not good place for jump, music doesn't call for it. The jump isn't that big and I don't want the diff to be too easy.
00:09:878 (2) - Ctrl+G for nice flow with (1) Good idea. Changed
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - plz no 170 BPM streams in hard diff. ;_; Nah, I think it's fine. It's just one stream.
01:07:696 (1) - What about deleting it and insert here Ctrl+C 01:06:968 (8) (Use Ctrl+G on it after copy) for better looking. Ok, followed your suggestion
01:12:060 (4) - You should do the same with 01:11:332 (3) (after it move 01:12:605 (5) ) Nah, I'm fine with how it is now
00:54:605 (1,2,3) - What about this? If you want it, delete previous ones and insert into .osu this: Nah, it looks fine as it is now
Here
256,192,54605,6,0,P|277:144|268:107,1,70 
348,98,54968,2,0,P|378:140|414:150,1,70
382,224,55332,2,0,P|330:228|303:255,1,70
Normal
It isn't bad. I don't have any advices to this diff, sorry. :< Np
Easy
00:21:877 (2,3,4) - Try to dothisfor symmetry Looks the same as in the pic, lol
The map isn't bad, but you should improve visual side of map, spacing issues on hard and definietly hitsounds.

Good luck with this!
Sorry for a bit short mod. >.<

Thanks for the mod!

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-Nya- 2015-01-12T10:59:07+00:00

azintairin710 wrote:
from Q

~~it's my 3rd time modding BRS song `w`~~ nvm that

[General]
Remove normal-slidertick from folder since you doesn't use it to tick anything the whole mapset Ok, removed that file
personally i don't like your hitsounding :3
[Easy]
00:21:150 (1) - i don't think this flow is good ._. I think it's fine, but will see what other modders say
00:44:423 (1,2) - blanket The blanket looks fine to me . . .
00:55:696 (5) - if you want, this circle can be removed so it follow vocal better and lower the diff a bit (tho.. it's your oppinion) No, if the circle is there it will help with better flow
00:58:968 (1,2) - if this is supposed to be blanket then fix it... if no then ignore this This blanket also looks fine to me . . .
01:00:787 (3,4) - blanket better Made a slight adjustment
01:08:241 (1) - move the tail a bit upper to get better flow Ok, fixed
01:18:241 (3,4) - fix blanket? Still looks fine to me

quite good, but note intensity is kind like harder than easy

[Normal]
00:01:696 (3,4) - blanket with end better Blanket looks fine
00:08:787 (5,1) - blanket better Made a slight adjustment
00:10:605 (2,3) - ^ Looks fine to me
00:20:423 (5,1) - ^ Made a slight adjustment
00:22:241 (2,3) - ^ ^
00:29:514 (6) - maybe change 00:29:877 - to circle since it's a potential downbeat No, change. Want a repetitive slider there
00:35:332 (7,1) - blanket? Looks fine to me
00:40:059 (4) - fix the end part as a standing slider? Ok, fixed
00:46:241 (3,4) - blanket Looks fine to me
01:11:332 (3,4) - wanna fix ^
01:18:241 (4,5,6) - might too harsh for a "real" normal No, not really. I can't let the diff be too easy otherwise the gap between this Normal and the Hard will be too big.
01:21:877 (1,2,3,4) - blanket The blankets are fine

so much blanket problem, too much 1/2 stream for a normal

[Hard]
00:07:696 (4,1) - not good anti-jump :3 I'll have to disagree.
00:29:514 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/dXcuZ.jpg some hard player can't read circle behind slider :< Ok, followed your suggestion
00:30:423 (2,3) - why don't make a better flow? like http://puu.sh/eheQT.jpg http://puu.sh/ehf1V.jpg Followed your first suggestion
00:34:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - make this look nicer? It looks fine, but if someone has a suggestion then I might consider changing it
00:41:151 (5,1) - this anti-jump isn't inteded to follow anything... consider to stac properly Nah, I like that placement
00:42:060 (2,3) - fix blanket The blanket looks fine to me
00:45:514 (3,4) - make this straight look nicer http://puu.sh/ehfwd.jpg I just lowered the tail of 00:45:514 (3) - a bit
00:46:968 (1,2,3,4) - in many case, stream with more than 5 note isn't pleased for hard. well, just pointing out don't mind this if you want this stream It's actually 4 notes, and I think it's fine
00:49:877 (4,1) - blanket fix (slider body blanket i mean) Looks fine to me
01:02:605 (3) - ctrl+g, rotate by -53 degree and move to (176,320) Ok, followed your suggestion
01:14:605 (4,1) - please change... ;w; this is so bad I think it's fine . . .
01:16:423 (1,2) - fix blanket Ok
01:19:696 (2,3) - ^ Made a slight adjustment
01:26:787 (1,2,3) - it will be good if you separate each note Ok, separated each note

Thanks so much for the mod!

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-Nya- 2015-01-12T11:01:27+00:00

UPDATED

@Milan- and Avishay: Please update to latest version since I changed the tags.

Guy

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Guy 2015-01-26T16:56:44+00:00

as your request

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[A's Extra]

00:00:787 (1) - Add finish to slider head instead of whistle for cymbal sound.
00:01:514 (4) - Add whistle to sldder head and end.
00:03:150 (2) - whistle
00:03:696 (5) - ^
00:05:150 (1) - Add finish instead of clap for cymbal sound
00:05:514 (4) - ^
00:05:878 (7) - ^
00:06:241 (3) - ^
00:06:605 (6) - ^
00:06:787 (1) - whistle
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Do not use 1/8 rhythm here. would be fit enough in 1/4
00:11:241 (1) - Remove NC
00:11:514 - I really felt that empty here. add note please.
00:11:635 (1) - It is too hard to read the rhythm. I recommend that consider removing the slider and add something from 00:11:696 - here.
00:13:877 (1,2,3) - Not good that placement. You should put notes more cleanly. 00:13:877 (1) - This note put between 00:13:332 (2) - and 00:13:514 (3) - . and 00:14:059 (2) - this note put between 00:12:787 (1) - 's slider end and 00:13:332 (2) - .
SPOILER
00:16:605 (7,2) - Please improve that placement like this.
SPOILER
00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This jumps appear suddenly. and not fit the song. Try to gradually spread jumps. (like a 00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - here)
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - I don't recommend that use 1/8 rhythm. I suggest that consider changing 1/4 sliders.
00:29:332 - if you accept above suggestion, Add note here please.
00:34:241 (2,3,4) - same suggest in 00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) -
00:44:059 (9) - Spacing is weird for me. make jump pattern is better than current imo.
SPOILER
00:44:696 (2,3,4,5) - Hard to read. 00:44:696 - blue tick, 00:45:211 - 1/6, 00:45:483 - 1/12, I can't accept like this rhythm. Please remake the pattern another way.
01:00:968 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing a bit different? Please set spacing consistent.
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - What is this rhythm. Try this rhythm.

That isn't all. This difficulty still have many issues. hitsounding, rhythm, overmap, placement, and so on.
It seems that need more mods. I'll be back for checking all difficulty.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-01-27T15:09:24+00:00

Guy wrote:
as your request

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[A's Extra]
00:00:787 (1) - Add finish to slider head instead of whistle for cymbal sound.
00:01:514 (4) - Add whistle to sldder head and end.
00:03:150 (2) - whistle
00:03:696 (5) - ^
00:05:150 (1) - Add finish instead of clap for cymbal sound
00:05:514 (4) - ^
00:05:878 (7) - ^
00:06:241 (3) - ^
00:06:605 (6) - ^
00:06:787 (1) - whistle
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Do not use 1/8 rhythm here. would be fit enough in 1/4

00:11:241 (1) - Remove NC
00:11:514 - I really felt that empty here. add note please.
00:11:635 (1) - It is too hard to read the rhythm. I recommend that consider removing the slider and add something from 00:11:696 - here.

00:13:877 (1,2,3) - Not good that placement. You should put notes more cleanly. 00:13:877 (1) - This note put between 00:13:332 (2) - and 00:13:514 (3) - . and 00:14:059 (2) - this note put between 00:12:787 (1) - 's slider end and 00:13:332 (2) - .
SPOILER
00:16:605 (7,2) - Please improve that placement like this.
SPOILER
00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This jumps appear suddenly. and not fit the song. Try to gradually spread jumps. (like a 00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - here)
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - I don't recommend that use 1/8 rhythm. I suggest that consider changing 1/4 sliders.

00:29:332 - if you accept above suggestion, Add note here please.
00:34:241 (2,3,4) - same suggest in 00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) -
00:44:059 (9) - Spacing is weird for me. make jump pattern is better than current imo.
SPOILER
00:44:696 (2,3,4,5) - Hard to read. 00:44:696 - blue tick, 00:45:211 - 1/6, 00:45:483 - 1/12, I can't accept like this rhythm. Please remake the pattern another way.
01:00:968 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing a bit different? Please set spacing consistent.
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - What is this rhythm. Try this rhythm.

That isn't all. This difficulty still have many issues. hitsounding, rhythm, overmap, placement, and so on.
It seems that need more mods. I'll be back for checking all difficulty.

Hey, thanks. As for the moment I have no access to a computer (from my phone atm) so I'll respond either when I am back home or when I'll have access to the computer here. I give nya full permission to edit the diff if she wants to.

AruOtta

1,296 posts

Joined May 2012

AruOtta 2015-01-30T22:47:12+00:00

I'm laaaaaate sorry ;___;

Easy

00:15:332 (1,2) - This blanket could be improved, try to use 2 construction points instead of 1 for (2)'s curve :

SPOILER

00:58:968 (1,2) - I feel like this blanket can also be improved a bit... Maybe you should make it closest to (1)'s tail.
00:59:696 (2,3,4) - The distance snap isn't the same between (2.3) and (3.4). You should move (4) 1 grid left in my opinion (and remake the blanket a bit)
01:08:241 (1,2) - These sliders both strating on red ticks can be problematic to understand for beginners. I suggest this pattern :

SPOILER

Normal

00:08:787 (5,1) - You should move (1)'s constuction point at the middle 1 grid left to improve the blanket.
00:15:877 - This beat seems more emphasized than 00:16:241, you should play it instead of 00:16:241 in my opinion (because it follows the vocal)
00:18:605 (1,2) - It could have been better to have a blanket here, maybe you could try to make (2) and (3) blanket with (1) ?
00:24:423 (1) - The curves of this slider looks strange... You should try this kind of wave slider in my opinion :

SPOILER

01:11:332 (3,4) - You should try to improve this blanket by moving (4)'s construction point at the middle of the curve.

Hard

00:07:332 (2,3,4) - The distance snap here seems too high compared to the other patterns, you should try to bring closer these 3 circles.
00:24:423 (1) - This wave slider has strange curves, you should try to do like the suggestion in the normal (http://puu.sh/ffAMX.jpg)
00:41:151 (5,1) - You can stack it like you made before for this kind of rythm maybe ?
00:44:423 (1) - Maybe you should try to move the second red anchor 2 grids right to make the same distance before and after the red anchors in the slider.
01:04:787 (1,2) - You could improve this blanket in my opinion.

Milan-'s Insane

00:26:605 (7) - I suggest to reverse the curve to increase the flow :

SPOILER

Perfect

A's Extra

First, I think Milan-'s Insane could be the hardest diff. I saw the Extra diff, and it's quite the same difficulty as the Insane... Also it has some problems.
The video isn't in this diff, I think it could be better to add it.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - These circles looks better when they're snapped on 1/4 timeline. It feels strange when it's not snapped.
00:11:514 - There's a beat you didn't play, you should add a circle in my opinion.
00:11:635 (1) - This is not snapped. I think you shouldn't care about these beats, they're not really emphasized.
00:25:150 (1,3) - Overlap
00:26:241 (5,6) - Same distance for 1/2 than 00:25:877 (3,4) which is 1/4, so you should increase the distance snap between (5,6)
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - Same thing aboug these kinds of beats. It's quite unplayable since it's not snapped.
00:34:483 (4) - ^
00:41:120 (8,1) - ^
00:35:696 - Hitsounds are quite strange in this part =/
00:45:756 (5) - Unsnapped
01:10:483 (2) - ^
01:10:756 (1) - Why does the hitsounds change after this slider ? ;___;

Btw, some circles on blue ticks are overmappped (they don't correspond to a beat on the song) and must be deleted.

In my opinion, I think this diff isn't needed in the set as it is at the moment =/

I hope my mod was helpful :3
Good luck ~

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-02-04T16:50:31+00:00

Guy wrote:
as your request

Red : Unrankable issue / must fix.
Blue : Should be fixed / highly suggested.
Black : Just suggestion.

[A's Extra]
00:00:787 (1) - Add finish to slider head instead of whistle for cymbal sound.
00:01:514 (4) - Add whistle to sldder head and end.
00:03:150 (2) - whistle
00:03:696 (5) - ^
00:05:150 (1) - Add finish instead of clap for cymbal sound
00:05:514 (4) - ^
00:05:878 (7) - ^
00:06:241 (3) - ^
00:06:605 (6) - ^
00:06:787 (1) - whistle
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - Do not use 1/8 rhythm here. would be fit enough in 1/4 Why is this an unrankable issue? Can you please use 25% Playback rate and see that I follow the rhythm correctly and it plays just fine.

00:11:241 (1) - Remove NC
00:11:514 - I really felt that empty here. add note please. I can't really hear a note here, but since you and Kenterz mentioned it I added a note here.
00:11:635 (1) - It is too hard to read the rhythm. I recommend that consider removing the slider and add something from 00:11:696 - here. Again, please listen to the song precisely, I followed it correctly and it plays nicely.

00:13:877 (1,2,3) - Not good that placement. You should put notes more cleanly. 00:13:877 (1) - This note put between 00:13:332 (2) - and 00:13:514 (3) - . and 00:14:059 (2) - this note put between 00:12:787 (1) - 's slider end and 00:13:332 (2) - .
SPOILER
00:16:605 (7,2) - Please improve that placement like this.
SPOILER
I think the previous one was just fine, but this one is even better, changed.
00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - This jumps appear suddenly. and not fit the song. Try to gradually spread jumps. (like a 00:32:968 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - here) I think they are fine, the song gets a bit intense at this part and the pattern is arranged nicely and it plays well.
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - I don't recommend that use 1/8 rhythm. I suggest that consider changing 1/4 sliders.
It is 1/6, and please listen to the song closely, it follows the beat and the vocals nicely, while playing cool.
00:29:332 - if you accept above suggestion, Add note here please.
00:34:241 (2,3,4) - same suggest in 00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - Nope, listen to the song please.
00:44:059 (9) - Spacing is weird for me. make jump pattern is better than current imo.
SPOILER
It felt funky indeed, changed.
00:44:696 (2,3,4,5) - Hard to read. 00:44:696 - blue tick, 00:45:211 - 1/6, 00:45:483 - 1/12, I can't accept like this rhythm. Please remake the pattern another way. Hard to read doesn't mean plays bad or follows rhythm wrong, I used equal DS and I followed strong beats
01:00:968 (1,2,3) - Why is the spacing a bit different? Please set spacing consistent. It is part of the pattern, it is getting intense in the kiai time and it combines with other patterns.
01:10:302 (1,2,1) - What is this rhythm. Try this rhythm.
A correct and irregular rhythm, please listen to this part carefully.

That isn't all. This difficulty still have many issues. hitsounding, rhythm, overmap, placement, and so on.
It seems that need more mods. I'll be back for checking all difficulty.

The rhythm issues are irrelevant, the hitsounds issues were spot on and right, so I fixed those, and changed some patterns according to your suggestions. I wouldn't just set sliders and circles on irregular Beat Snap Divisors, I did it for a reason, they might be irregular and hard to read, but they play nicely and are correct.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-02-04T16:54:53+00:00

Kenterz wrote:
I'm laaaaaate sorry ;___;

A's Extra
First, I think Milan-'s Insane could be the hardest diff. I saw the Extra diff, and it's quite the same difficulty as the Insane... Also it has some problems.
The video isn't in this diff, I think it could be better to add it. Nya wil take care of it and I'll update the map if it is the case, my video settings are disabled.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - These circles looks better when they're snapped on 1/4 timeline. It feels strange when it's not snapped. Please lok at the response to Guy's post.
00:11:514 - There's a beat you didn't play, you should add a circle in my opinion. Added because of you and Guy.
00:11:635 (1) - This is not snapped. I think you shouldn't care about these beats, they're not really emphasized. I can't ignore them, I mapped it this way because I could feel them.
00:25:150 (1,3) - Overlap Changed pattern, it still overlaps but it should be fine.
00:26:241 (5,6) - Same distance for 1/2 than 00:25:877 (3,4) which is 1/4, so you should increase the distance snap between (5,6) V
00:28:968 (4,5,6,7) - Same thing aboug these kinds of beats. It's quite unplayable since it's not snapped. Guy's post.
00:34:483 (4) - ^
00:41:120 (8,1) - ^
00:35:696 - Hitsounds are quite strange in this part =/ I think they add some flavor and they are nice
00:45:756 (5) - Unsnapped
01:10:483 (2) - ^
01:10:756 (1) - Why does the hitsounds change after this slider ? ;___; Because the long stream ended and the strong vocals came?

Btw, some circles on blue ticks are overmappped (they don't correspond to a beat on the song) and must be deleted.

In my opinion, I think this diff isn't needed in the set as it is at the moment =/

I hope my mod was helpful :3
Good luck ~

Thanks for the mod, please look at my notes on the previous post. As for the difficulty, only time will tell, if it is must to be removed I guess I have no choice but to accept it, but I think it'll be fine.

DIFF

SPOILER

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Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2015-02-04T20:10:26+00:00

A's Extra:

00:03:150 (2,3,4) - Since the strong beat is in 00:03:332, giving a jump for (2,3) is something better to play than one in (3,4).
00:06:423 (4,5,6) - Considering the previous flow of your triplets of 00:05:332 (2,3,4,5,6,7) were a zigzag, maintaining that flow also for here is recommended. A sample placement for you.
SPOILER
00:08:423 (2) - Every the previous similar section such as 00:01:150 (3) or 00:06:968 (2) were all using 3/4 sliders. Changing your rhythm to 3/4 and adding a note at 00:08:787 with a whistle will maintain the consistency of your map.
00:10:968 (1,2,1) - The rhythm is not 1/6 here, but it's just a 1/4 if you are following the drum sounds (which is the most noticable one of the song here!)
00:22:241 (3,4) - Just keep your 1/2 jump by setting a new combo at (3) as you've done at 00:21:150 (1,2) - 00:21:514 (1,2) - 00:21:877 (1,2). A sudden cut down of this pattern to stabilze the spacing towards 00:22:605 (1) was not a good idea since the music of 00:21:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) all comes as the same feeling. Also providing my personal sample too.
SPOILER
00:25:150 (1) - The new combo setting didn't felt nice since it made the combo of too short. Remove your combo, and add one back at 00:26:968 where the new stanza starts.
00:29:029 (5) - Remove this note! There is no musical cue supporting this note, which only makes this object something overmapped.
00:38:241 (1,3) - Remove combo at (1), and add one for (3). It fits the music better since it allows a new combo along the new stanza.
00:41:211 (1,2) - Remove combo at (1), and add one for (2). Reason is same with above.
00:44:059 (9) - Highly recommended to place where 00:43:696 (7) is! In the current stance, the space of 00:44:059 (9,1,2) are the same while rhythms being slightly different. This is a highly confusing placement which must get fixed.
00:46:605 (3) - New combo this note to make the streams detached with 00:46:241 (1,2). They do not belong together.
00:50:423 (8,9,1) - Same opinion with the first line of my mod; Jump in (8,9) fits better than (9,1) since there is a strong beat in 00:50:605 (9).
00:58:059 - The volume is too low that it can cause an issue of objects being subjectively inaudible. Recommended to tune your volume up to 30%.
01:08:605 (5) - Set a new combo please to enhance readability of this anti-jump with (4).
01:10:211 - The way the actual rhythm should be is like the following. Also suggesting to use my selected order in that circle-slider-circle will minimize the impact towards the users playing.
01:23:756 (1,2) - Since the rhythmical gap of (8,1) and (1,2) differs, it's recommended to put more space between (1,2) to make the gap way more noticable.
01:24:332 (3,4,5) - The path of the stream heading (5) is too sharp. You need to make it smoother to make a more playable pattern.

meii18

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Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-02-04T20:13:52+00:00

Reply to Sonnyc's mod and then I'll mod the extra diff

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