A Mystery wrote:

Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?

Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this

Nhawak wrote:

what

deetz wrote:

The.

Wookiezi wrote:

A Mystery wrote:

Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?

Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this

It has 14 mods, I don't see the issue with it

A Mystery wrote:

Since when does the amount of mods equal the quality of a map?
I'm sorry but that doesn't mean anything.

DankHomie wrote:

If you actaully have problems with the map, no one is stopping you from pointing it out in a mod, as the chance of it making it to full ranking without ever having its bubble burst is pretty slim. Complaining is fine, but you can at least be constructive about it.

A Mystery wrote:

DankHomie wrote:

If you actaully have problems with the map, no one is stopping you from pointing it out in a mod, as the chance of it making it to full ranking without ever having its bubble burst is pretty slim. Complaining is fine, but you can at least be constructive about it.

But I'm not even complaining, it's just something I thought about it, an opinion, and I don't feel obligated to mod it. It's just that some things looked so... random to me (judging from a quick look in the editor). I can't understand what the mappers' intentions are, I know that, but it doesn't look ready to me.

A Mystery wrote:

That is true, however, it can't be denied that there are a lot of maps lately getting qualified which are definitely not ready, resulting in an unqualification right after that. I'm afraid it will just be the case with this one, one of the reasons being that it's extremely hard. Unqualifying a map shouldn't be natural, so I recommend the mapper to at least get an in-depth look by a QAT for example, just to be sure.

A Mystery wrote:

Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?

Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this

sukiNathan wrote:

I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.

Seafighter wrote:

This is epic
But, How is anyone going to FC this if its 7.83 stars ?

_mrcool wrote:

Seafighter wrote:

This is epic
But, How is anyone going to FC this if its 7.83 stars ?

why should it matter? time freeze is ranked and no one has come really close to FCing it

Woddles wrote:

sukiNathan wrote:

I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.

Why? So that people can complain afterwards something like "just because you got X player to mod it doesn't make it any more rankable"?

A Mystery wrote:

Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?

Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this

sukiNathan wrote:

I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.

CptBlackBird wrote:

if anyone passes this map I will die

Kynan wrote:

I'll mod this for you :
fack your cs4.5 jumps
OD10 op but necessary so ok
rest is cool pls keep the bursts at the end



Kappa

1. Combo colors 3 and 4 are really similar... to the point where its actually very difficult to tell them apart even in editor. (I'm using default skin).
2. 00:58:319 (1,2,1) - Feels weird to have a large jump from 1>2 and then a small jump and good flow into 00:58:569 (1) - . Shouldn't you be putting some emphasis onto that note? You did so with these patterns:00:56:444 (2,1) - Using a flow break, 01:00:444 (2,1) - Flow break too, and01:04:444 (2,1) - And here.
3. 01:08:444 (2,1) - ^ Should have a harsher flow, that or emphasize this transition somehow.
4. 01:11:819 (1,2,3,1) - Imo, spacing like this can be hard to read because you use the same spacing for 1/2 gaps (01:11:819 (1,2,3) - ) and 1/1 gaps (01:12:069 (3,1) - ). Like, try moving 2 to coordinates 410||179 for better clarity.
5. 01:15:569 (9,1,2,3,1) - Spacing could also be improved here imo, for better clarity.
6. 01:31:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Idk man... this shape looks a bit weird compared to the shape you used for the first half of the stream.
7. 02:37:569 (1,2,3,4) - Wish you could improve this slider formation a bit so there's no overlap with 1>4
   
   I just rotated the tail of Slider 2 a bit, and shifted 3 and 4 to match the parallel.

   
8. 02:46:818 (2) - Are you sure this is even audible enough to be mapped to a circle? i think making 1 a slider would be better honestly.
9. 04:28:166 (1,2,3,4) - Imo using 1/2 sliders here would improve the transition back into 250 bpm. You can keep the circles for the rest of this section, i just feel immediately beginning with circles might be too harsh, ad using sliders can give players slightly more time to adjust.

Woddles wrote:

sukiNathan wrote:

I highly recommend you at least get a mod from someone like Ekoro, jesus1412 or Alumetorz.

Why? So that people can complain afterwards something like "just because you got X player to mod it doesn't make it any more rankable"?

sukiNathan wrote:

Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.

Woddles wrote:

sukiNathan wrote:

Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.

Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.

Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.

monstrata wrote:

1. 01:08:444 (2,1) - ^ Should have a harsher flow, that or emphasize this transition somehow.
   it already breaks on 01:08:194 (5,1) - here, so i won't change that even more
2. 01:31:069 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Idk man... this shape looks a bit weird compared to the shape you used for the first half of the stream.
   uh it's completely fine no big curves or anything just a nice stream
3. 02:46:818 (2) - Are you sure this is even audible enough to be mapped to a circle? i think making 1 a slider would be better honestly.
   YES I AM SURE

Woddles wrote:

Pappy wrote:

Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.

Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.

Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.

IVo one wrote:

CptBlackBird wrote:

if anyone passes this map I will die

Few people have already.

NeBuSC2 wrote:

It's not that hard actually as you think - just take a look. There are only 240bpm streams, like 3/4 jump parts, one hard for tap because of 270bpm and CS4.5 with spaced streams and 130~~bpm jumps.
The reason why this have 7.8* is spaceing on streams and CS - like with Time Freeze - i think its rankable and cool. Good luck.

PS. This short 140bpm stacked streams in 1/8 (06:36:808 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - - its like 300bpm? or less/more?

Woddles wrote:

sukiNathan wrote:

Because they can play this map? I wonder if somebody who modded this can play this.

Jesus and alumetorz yes, not so much Ekoro (no offense) since he is more of an EZ mod player which I don't think would be very good for giving judgements on difficulty for this level of map.

Also the point of my original post was to point out that regardless of who testplay/mods the map, there will always be people to complain about the map not being adequately tested and modded.

1. I won't talk about final stream part, even if some streams are very harsh especially with this spacing progression. Else, it's fine, even if i can't play it at all.
2. To me, the very high spacing for 1/2 is really unnecessary, although the music is pretty fast, i think that it's way too much and forces everything.
3. 04:00:806 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern is kinda confusing to play, maybe use 2 sliders w/ one reverse? it appears several times in this part

Mazzerin wrote:

A Mystery wrote:

Am I the only one thinking this maps lacks quality and needs a lot more work before ranking?

Oh boy I gave my opinion, guess some people are not going to be able to handle it. Why am I even involving myself with this

then feel free to point out whatever you think lacks quality

Ekoro wrote:

The map doesn't look that structured to me, but it's probably due to high AR or something, and i can't really see much patterns. Just giving my opinion though, best luck for ranking that!

Ekoro wrote:

1. I won't talk about final stream part, even if some streams are very harsh especially with this spacing progression. Else, it's fine, even if i can't play it at all.
   meh changed the hardest transition to be easy, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3143735
2. To me, the very high spacing for 1/2 is really unnecessary, although the music is pretty fast, i think that it's way too much and forces everything.
   it is necessary because of the high sv, i used to have it with very small jumps which actually made it unfun, boring and frustrating to play before, akali/redo told me it won't be possible to work with a map with this high sv and that low spacing on 1/2s, so i remapped most of those sections a couple of times now
3. 04:00:806 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern is kinda confusing to play, maybe use 2 sliders w/ one reverse? it appears several times in this part
   u w0t its just 4 90~(in 1/4) bpm singletaps. oh well, not hard to fix, so i did it

A Mystery wrote:

This is kinda what I meant, I don't say it is bad or anything.
It's very hard but also doesn't have a real structure, or at least the way I see it. No real recognizable patterns, flow, use of jumps the way most people do... So it's hard for me to judge But I'm sure your intentions are good

Tess wrote:

1. 01:36:256 (2) - This note seems unnecessary, just leaving the patterns as two sliders would make it for a good minor break so as to not murder the player's stamina at a redundant spot (especially amidst such a heavy stream)
   hmm it does fit and it really isn't that hard to press/aim or anything
2. 01:38:256 (2) - ^ (by the way, the reason I didn't suggest it for similar previous examples is because it fit there, while less so here)
   ^
3. 02:15:819 (1) - Why an NC here instead of 02:16:069 (2) - Here like in previous and ensuing similar patterns? Makes it look sloppy
   i followed the guitar there, its like that in like 3 other parts of the map, all consistent

Note: Overall I think the calm section didn't have enough thought put into it and could really use massive improvements or a remap. That's just my opinion on it.
uhh literally no idea what could be wrong with it

1. 04:31:526 (1,2,3,4) - Ctrl + G
   wait what why
2. 04:49:286 (1) - Maybe this would work better?
   looks like this already flows well
3. 06:30:808 (1) - Maybe this and 06:31:237 (2) - this too but up to you
   these are fine
4. 06:47:629 (2) - This overlap doesn't seem like a good idea
   the slider border? its fine, dont want to change my sliders fully just to make it not touch that border
5. 06:58:129 (1) - x424 y52 for better blanket
   but.. it already blankets the circle fine
6. 07:00:808 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Are you sure you want this straight like this? It could be a lot gayer cooler if you did something fancy with the aesthetics while maintaining equal playability (i.e. a highway stream)
   what the hell is a highway stream
7. 07:24:397 (3) - Angle this downwards instead?
   i think of it as a final separator of the two streams
8. 07:47:522 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This stream's aesthetics could definitely see improvement
   uhh its completely fine?
9. 07:48:522 (1) - The part after this I feel the same way about as the aforementioned calm part
   dont really see anything wrong with it, there's really nothing special to think of

Sieg wrote:

we did something secret here and there

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