cdhsausageboy wrote:

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小野のむずかしい（裹）

1. The kiai at 01:36:129 - needs to be moved to 01:36:132 [b]done [/b]
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2. 00:29:764 - You mapped the kick at 00:28:632 but not here? Add a kat here for consistency please ;w; applied
3. 00:43:208 - Maybe change this slider into some notes? I don't get why 00:45:189 (1,2,3,4,1) has notes but here doesn't when their music sound so similar D: Having 1/1 notes (maybe d K d K d?) would sound pretty nice!if you don't mind, check Nwolfs post please (though, now I have three diffs and now two like before)
4. 01:06:415 - ^ btw the music here stutters really heavily so having needed to hit 1/4 non-stop doesn't fit with it D: same
5. 00:50:283 - The bass here really warrants a don, so add it pls ;w; changed
6. 00:51:132 - ^ While this is true, I did it intentionaly to alter the patterns a bit. kkkd d ddk isn't so appealing to me.
7. 00:59:906 - With all those big notes in this map why not emphasize the accented-clap thingy here with a big don too? Both could work. But I rather would like to keep it, since here is nothing special to emphasize at all.
8. 01:08:113 - I'd make this note a big one too since vocals but it's your choice :3 (ALSO CONSISTENCY WITH ONI) done
9. 01:14:906 - I'd strongly advise adding a note here, since now the dons are 4/3 apart but there are exactly no way to know that the way you put it noe, so having some 1/3 would help players a LOT in reading it ._. did something else instead
10. 01:54:811 - ...awkward break here fill it with something please? done
11. 01:54:953 - ^ done
12. 02:10:189 - um now the music has full 1/3 from here until the kiai ends but you had some breaks since you had to take care of the difficulty right? Well um maybe try deleting 02:10:189 (2,3) - leaving only the 7-plet 1/3? Well the 1/3 sounds only sound stronger there and it'll make it more fitting as a (Ura) Muzu so you can try it :3 really nice, applied.
13. 02:17:878 (2) - idk this sounds weird too DDD: changed in the process of remap
14. 02:41:014 - mfw the only 5-plet 1/4 you have is overmapped. Please. Oni now :p
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    Really amazing map considering how the song itself is hard too map in Taiko ;w; I liked the kiais in particular!

小野のおに

1. 00:31:250 - ...d here? Having two kkddk in a row isn't even that hard D: It's not hard, but I like this consterllation a lot more since it alternates in a clean and nice way.
2. 00:32:170 - big don in muzu but small kat in oni...? I don't get it DDDDD: Shouldn't they be the same? Considering the patterns, not really. Here it is mainly kat so only K at the end is requierd. IN Muzu(now oni) I use one more K so D doesn't draw only attention.
3. 00:34:576 - Having a kat here like Muzu sounds better If I change the, the other dons become unsignificant, and I don't wnat to sacrifice it. Also in this way, 00:34:010 (1,2) - are more emphasized without the other other kat.
4. 00:37:335 - the dkdkdkdk...kick is still going here so um...map it? to be honest, no idea anymore why I used it. But I had a reason for it I forgot right now.
5. 00:44:906 (1,2,3,4) - This sounds weird D: changed
6. 01:06:415 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,1) - This should really just be a kkddkkdd... stream this THAT'S HOW THE MUSIC FLOWS HERE. I don't know what rhythm your kats following currently, but I don't really think it fits the music well enough and can be improved :3 It doesn't follow the vocals, but should imply like following it while it actually follows the 1/4 sounds in the background. It's about the tone here which is given by the vocals, so I tried to be fair to it. Also it helps me emphasizing upcoming dons a lot, which is good in my opinion.
7. 01:16:179 (3,4) - eh (I think) I get the logic for the finishers but when I play it the bass-thingy is barely audible and I could hardly differentiate them between the other kat here which kinda makes the finishers here an overkill ;w; I'd suggest changing them to small dons if you still want them to stand out from the kats here :3 changed
8. 01:45:896 (2,3,1) - These sound a LOT more like ddk rather than kkd ;w; this was intention to give dons more impact and prevent having too many dons as well, since the part seems to have a higher tone due to these 1/4 notes in background
9. 01:46:179 (1,2,1) - ^
10. 01:48:727 (1,2,1) - ^
11. 02:15:330 (1,2,1) - ^
12. 02:15:896 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - ^
13. 01:49:717 (1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1) - I like this part in both difficulties =w=b
14. 02:32:736 - d in Muzu but k in Oni? just choose one and stick with it D: due to their pattern constellations.
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    Nice map =w=b Would practice on monocolor streams more just to fc this lol
    

Overall there are some parts that are a little bit weird to play and inconsistent between diffs but Taikos are still cool! (but spread is not that cool fix it kthxbai)
Good luck!

Nwolf wrote:

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[Ono's Muzukashii]

01:36:132 (1) - Why no slider wanted to keep it simple in muzukashii. After all slider is fast on this BPM.
01:42:925 (10) - ^ (unless you remove the first kiai slider in Oni) The thing is, Muzu has none, Oni has one, and Inner has two. It has more the harder the diff becomes.
01:51:557 (1) - Delete to shorten pattern a little (also fits music kinda well) Sounds good. applied.
02:13:491 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 02:15:472 (12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - These are pretty cruel, due to their length and BPM. Try groups of 4 kats instead (or sth else) While the idea is not bad, I will rather keep it. I tried it before, but sounds not really fitting. such k constellation should be really a problem. Would be also too dangerous for the diff spread here.
02:34:717 - 02:39:528 - feels kinda weird and undermapped compared to Oni. added some notes.

[Ono's Oni]

Reduce HP Drain Rate to 5. It's consistent with the other diffs it's all the same, while OD rises from diff to diff.

00:43:208 (2) - Map notes here instead of slider because Muzukashii and Inner Oni both have notes here. Indeed. Because Muzu contains a few notes and Inner a lot. Using a slider in Oni for a better connection since it provides 1/4 but doesn't give combo breaks. But another reason for that is also the way the diffs are mapped. Inner uses the 1/4 while Muzukashii is mapped with connecting patterns (like in this example). A slider wouldn't fit in Muzu, but in Oni it doesdue to it's patterns. Having suddenly a lot of 1/4 would come in my opinion too sudden. So slider came in.
01:06:415 (1) - ^
01:12:642 - 01:12:925 - 01:13:208 - 01:14:340 - Could add 1/1 kats so the part is not that much emptier than Inner Oni. Should not conflict with the don emphasis (except the last one). Had that before. Did it in a similar way now, even though I'm not sure about the spread here. That's why one note less.
01:20:283 - 01:21:132 - Add notes here (Muzu and Inner both have more) Pattern constellation is totall different here again. Adding notes would requier a change at 01:27:217 - too, while it would lead to higher spread differences.
01:27:076 - 01:27:925 - Should add the name notes here (even tho Muzu makes a break here for unknown reasons) Same here. It's because of the pattern constellation in Muzukahii. It contains some own rhythms since else, you have baerly a chance to keep it easy. 01:27:076 (2) - is connected to 01:29:340 (1) -
01:42:925 (10) - Why no slider? (Totally fine with that, but then 01:36:132 (2) - should probably be a big don too.) for sad reason in muzukashii
01:54:811 - 01:54:953 - Why are there no notes here Added more notes and 1/4 in this section. That spread jump way too high from Oni to Inner.
01:58:915 - Add a note to increase difference to Muzukashii at this spot (Muzu has 7-plet) did even more
02:42:995 - 02:43:561 - Maybe add dons here to make the pattern increase in difficulty and intensity til it ends in the big don (Inner Oni kinda gets harder too) Tried something but at the end it becomes pretty hard. So I just keep it. Muzu: 1/1, Oni: 1/2, Inner: 1/4

[Ono's Inner Oni]

00:44:906 (1,3) - Change these to dons so the transition 1/3 -> 1/4 kats is not present since it plays kinda awkward. Also fits sound of song pretty well as the sounds on the dons would be deeper and on the left speaker while kats are on the right speaker with higher sounds. (The sounds are kinda similar to 01:12:359 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,1) - ) yes
01:36:132 - Yeah I mentioned this already and questioned myself here, would give 1.4 SV a try so it doesn't overlap but that more than likely kill the effect you wanted. Also give 1.45 a try if you haven't, overlaps a bit less than 1.5. Oh. That's actually a good solution. It is indeed better readable. Applied it.
01:42:925 - ^; alternativly you could possibly shorten the slider by 1/1 so it ends on down beat since the vocals last longer than slider anyway. Didn't apply the Sv change this time, but I shortened the slider. Good idea.
01:40:095 (1,2,3,4) - Would highly recommend removing this 1/6, not only is this the only one in the entire map even tho there's more similar sounds in the songs that are mapped as big notes - it also plays kinda bad with 01:40:378 (2) - this big don. A suggestion would be 1/4 dkk instead, so it still ends differently but plays more similar to 01:37:264 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,1,2) - these. I wasn't sure about it either, so I changed it now.
02:24:528 (13,14,15,16) - Same situation as above. 02:24:811 (16) - Could be changed to a big kat cause there's a crash in the song, or just remove the finisher cause 02:25:095 (17) - this is kinda the same but mapped as small don. aaaaaaand 02:28:066 (1,2) - these are much stronger big dons :) changed it to K, might be just me, but then 02:30:189 (1) - doesn't seem to stay so alone.

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

• Ono </3 disable ''widescreen support'' in all diffs, is not necessary
  
  Well, i don't like at all 1.30 sv, but i know you did this due to the bpm, maybe change this to 1.40 at least in the Inner?

• 00:30:472 (1,2) - change this pattern to k k or k d? fits better imo
  00:45:189 (2) - change this note k? k fits better imo but maybe you want to keep this more simple
  01:04:717 (2,1) - control+g these notes? (d k) is not hard and sounds good
  01:08:255 - i know is a more calm part, but how about add a k here? sounds good imo

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  01:48:444 (25) - how about delete this note? a little break here is good imo
  01:55:802 (2) - change this note to d? sounds better imo and the sound is a bit more loud

• 00:42:359 (1,2,1,2,1) - change this pattern to kkdkd or kkddd? i think you tried a simple pattern but the note 00:42:642 (1) - fits good with d imo due to the loud sound and you used the same in 00:42:783 (2) -
  01:04:010 (1,4,6) - change these notes to d? (d k k d k d k) sounds good imo o3o
  01:18:302 (7,1,1,1,1) - i like :3
  02:39:811 (2,3) - how about change these notes to k? sounds different of 02:39:528 (1,4,5) - and i think sounds good

1. Minor fixes in E/I diffs

No log for you as I've lost it somewhere and changes don't really matter, anyway

Circled!

Hanjamon wrote:

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Hi Ono :3, here a mod from fergas in PM and from TMT (i know i'm late, so i'll mod before the bubble)

• d=Don
  D=Big Don
  k=Katsu
  K=Big Katsu

[General]

• Ono </3 disable ''widescreen support'' in all diffs, is not necessary
  
  Well, i don't like at all 1.30 sv, but i know you did this due to the bpm, maybe change this to 1.40 at least in the Inner?

[Ono's Muzukashii]

• 00:30:472 (1,2) - change this pattern to k k or k d? fits better imo okay
  00:45:189 (2) - change this note k? k fits better imo but maybe you want to keep this more simple okay
  01:04:717 (2,1) - control+g these notes? (d k) is not hard and sounds good want to keep it consistent with previous kd
  01:08:255 - i know is a more calm part, but how about add a k here? sounds good imo good idea, did similar stuff on other patterns in this section

[Ono's Oni]

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  01:48:444 (25) - how about delete this note? a little break here is good imo might be not bad, but deleting more notes might be problematic for the spread. It's only one note but well.... lol
  01:55:802 (2) - change this note to d? sounds better imo and the sound is a bit more loud used something similar

[Ono's Inner Oni]

• 00:42:359 (1,2,1,2,1) - change this pattern to kkdkd or kkddd? i think you tried a simple pattern but the note 00:42:642 (1) - fits good with d imo due to the loud sound and you used the same in 00:42:783 (2) - good idea.
  01:04:010 (1,4,6) - change these notes to d? (d k k d k d k) sounds good imo o3o I think this wouldn't fit here well, considering the constellation of my patterns. Those are a bit own patterns, so changing something changes everything.
  01:18:302 (7,1,1,1,1) - i like :3
  02:39:811 (2,3) - how about change these notes to k? sounds different of 02:39:528 (1,4,5) - and i think sounds good

lot of kkkkk, do you want to kill some people? (? anyway the diffs sounds good

That's all, good luck ^^

Rumia- wrote:

btw this is the first igorrr map that is not by sieg/grumd wwwww
congrats

It wont be last

fartownik wrote:

03:35:212 (2,3) - And you plan on destroying player's FCs like this? ;_: The map is very damn good, really fun, but this part is so unnecessary. Move the slider towards the circle perhaps?

Lolparty wrote:

Auto barely passes the spinner at the end of the extra with HR :/

HR on the extra is impossible for those of us without a power drill.

Loctav wrote:

Maps are not designed to suit with mods. They are designed for NoMod. If something doesn't work with a mod, then don't use the mod.

Loctav wrote:

Maps are not designed to suit with mods. They are designed for NoMod. If something doesn't work with a mod, then don't use the mod.

fergas wrote:

I actcually found a good way to solve it. lower 0.5 hp and separate one long spinner in two on lenghts like i did on E-N. Dont want to lower od just beacuse it bettersuits for song.
I want to dq btw...
It would be ok if such thing would only on extra(still bad but...) till maps mapped for nm as loctav said.
But when half mapset is unpassable with hr(especially LI which can fced even by 5k players for my point of view) it becomes little joke about players.
I really feel sorry and i wont repeat same mistake anymore.

Bring personal excuses to Rumia-, Nwolf, Bakari, Sieg ;w;

zivbu9 wrote:

fergas wrote:

I actcually found a good way to solve it. lower 0.5 hp and separate one long spinner in two on lenghts like i did on E-N. Dont want to lower od just beacuse it bettersuits for song.
I want to dq btw...
It would be ok if such thing would only on extra(still bad but...) till maps mapped for nm as loctav said.
But when half mapset is unpassable with hr(especially LI which can fced even by 5k players for my point of view) it becomes little joke about players.
I really feel sorry and i wont repeat same mistake anymore.

Bring personal excuses to Rumia-, Nwolf, Bakari, Sieg ;w;

Sounds great, but what do you think about simply lowering the HP to 5? The Extra diff is very punishing as it stands, and I don't feel it needs a high HP drain. Maybe even 5.5. What are your thoughts about it?
Anyways awesome map, looking forward for it to get ranked

zivbu9 wrote:

Sounds great, but what do you think about simply lowering the HP to 5? The Extra diff is very punishing as it stands, and I don't feel it needs a high HP drain. Maybe even 5.5. What are your thoughts about it?
Anyways awesome map, looking forward for it to get ranked