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Is it worth to get a mechanical keyboard?

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Espionage724

DahplA wrote:

There probably already topics out there for this question. I've been thinking about getting a mechanical keyboard for a while now, because it seems it's like what everyone uses.
  1. Is there a benefit to getting a mechanical keyboard?
  2. What does it provide over a normal keyboard?
  3. Will I see an immediate improvement, or will I have to get used to it?
Mechanical switches tend to be more durable.

You will have to get used to it. Speaking from my own experience, my accuracy was a mess initially when I went from rubber dome to Blue, because of the way the key registers, and how I was expecting it to register.

Basically, with rubber dome, when the key hits the bottom-out point, it registers, and it's easy to recognize this. With Blue switches however, it registers about half-way through the key press, before the point of bottoming-out.

It doesn't take too long to get used to a certain switch type though, but the time to get used to a switch depends on the switch you're going to, and what you're used to.

Edit: Apparently Black and Red require you to bottom-out to register presses, which may be pretty similar to rubber dome.

The question is, what kind of switch will you get? Ideally, I would recommend getting a mechanical keyboard for the intention of using it generally, and not getting one specifically for osu!. This may or may not be the most accurate information, but:

- I hear Red switches are recommended for gaming, but are terrible to type with over extended periods of time.
- Blacks are also recommended for gaming.
- Blues are great for typing, but I don't see too many people recommending them for gaming. They're also regarded as loud.
- Greens are great if you want something similar to the buckling spring switch (basically harder to press down); great for typing.
- Browns are a lighter (quieter)-version of Blue, and I hear it commonly recommended for a good balance between typing, gaming, and silence.
- Buckling springs are great, but this is an "ancient" switch, and you'll likely only see it mentioned with the IBM Model M; which is outstanding for typing.

As for what factors to look into when choosing a switch type for a specific task, it's whether the switch is linear or not, and how much actuation force it takes to press the key down.

I'd personally recommend Brown switches. Blues aren't bad either. And if for some reason you want to go old-school and have a tank of a keyboard that can survive anything (and also have fun possibly fixing it up and learning more about keyboards along the way), could go for an IBM Model M 8-) or if you want something newer you can actually pick up in retail, something with Green switches.

Although now that I think about it, I think Blacks and Red switches are linear switches, which ideally means the switch registers on and off around the same point (which sounds and probably is great for accuracy with osu!). Blues I know aren't linear. No idea on Browns or other switches. The switch being linear or not won't matter after a time where you get used to the switch anyway though.

Also, here's a page full of useful keyboard terms you may want to look into: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/terms.php

Whichever keyboard and switch you do decide to choose though, just make sure to choose it after thorough research. I jumped right into mech keyboard and got Blue without looking at anything else, and kind of regretted it at first (not saying Blue is bad of course; just saying I wish I would have known about other switch types at the time).

Someone please feel free to correct any of that information if it's wrong.
byfar
yes, when u climb higher ranks you will quickly realize how important a good keyboard is. not jamming a key can mean the difference between fc and not fc.

also i think blues are extremely good for osu, if you have good stamina. the tactile feedback provides rhythm for me at least
Varetyr

Bauxe wrote:

Don't take this as rude. But it really won't make a difference until you get to a certain threshold. Like 200+.
Pretty much my thoughts

Espionage724

Varetyr wrote:

Do blacks really need that much actuation force? Thought for sure Greens were the highest.
sangu

Espionage724 wrote:

Although now that I think about it, I think Blacks and Red switches are linear switches, which ideally means the switch registers on and off around the same point (which sounds and probably is great for accuracy with osu!). Blues I know aren't linear. No idea on Browns or other switches. The switch being linear or not won't matter after a time where you get used to the switch anyway though.
When the switch is noted as being "linear" it is in regards to the feedback, not the actuation point. The reds and blacks are linear tactile feedback, meaning no feedback at all, the key feels the same from initial press to bottoming out. Blues have a mechanism inside which gives a much stronger tactile feel. (and a very loud "click" Browns are kind of "all-round," which means that they do not have an internal mechanism unlike the blues, but have a slight "bump" to provide some tactile feedback.

This website has some great animations for the internals of all cherry switches, in case my explanation is confusing: http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2012/12/an-introduction-to-cherry-mx-mechanical-switches/
Varetyr
It's a bit exaggerated, greens are still the highest, it's just ~higher than the rest afaik
Bauxe

Varetyr wrote:

It's a bit exaggerated, greens are still the highest, it's just ~higher than the rest afaik
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Super_Black
8-)
cheezstik

Bauxe wrote:

cheezstik wrote:

It will probably definitely give you a big advantage but it's by no means required. I'm using a regular keryboard and I would consider my self good at streams, and more of a rhythm / speed player than an aim player. I've never used a mechanical keyboard so I can't really compare.
Don't take this as rude. But it really won't make a difference until you get to a certain threshold. Like 200+.
Well I obviously can't comment on the difference since I haven't touched a mechanical keyboard, but I don't have too much trouble reaching freedom dive another and rog-unlimitation speed.
Varetyr

Bauxe wrote:

Varetyr wrote:

It's a bit exaggerated, greens are still the highest, it's just ~higher than the rest afaik
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Super_Black
8-)
wth is that
Is there anyone who actually needs that lmao
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DahplA
Thanks for the help everyone. Would there be a specific keyboard that would be recommended? I'd like it to be close to the $100-$150 price range.
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Bauxe

cheezstik wrote:

Well I obviously can't comment on the difference since I haven't touched a mechanical keyboard, but I don't have too much trouble reaching freedom dive another and rog-unlimitation speed.
I can spam on rubberdomes too.
Paizuri

DahplA wrote:

Thanks for the help everyone. Would there be a specific keyboard that would be recommended? I'd like it to be close to the $100-$150 price range.
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cheezstik

Bauxe wrote:

cheezstik wrote:

Well I obviously can't comment on the difference since I haven't touched a mechanical keyboard, but I don't have too much trouble reaching freedom dive another and rog-unlimitation speed.
I can spam on rubberdomes too.
Don't remember mentioning spamming or mashing, but I'll clear it up anyway; I can accurately stream 220bpm.

The self-glorification aside, my original on-topic point is that if someone at my level of play can do 220bpm (something higher than my level of play) on a regular keyboard, then it is safe to say that for someone at my level or lower (such as OP), a mechanical keyboard is not needed or 100% worth it, because as bauxe said, it won't make much difference.

Now on the other hand if you are bauxe-level good, go ahead and grab a mechanical keyboard, it's most likely worth it.
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Bauxe

cheezstik wrote:

Don't remember mentioning spamming or mashing, but I'll clear it up anyway; I can accurately stream 220bpm.

The self-glorification aside, my original on-topic point is that if someone at my level of play can do 220bpm (something higher than my level of play) on a regular keyboard, then it is safe to say that for someone at my level or lower (such as OP), a mechanical keyboard is not needed or 100% worth it, because as bauxe said, it won't make much difference.

Now on the other hand if you are bauxe-level good, go ahead and grab a mechanical keyboard, it's most likely worth it.
I really want to see a replay of you streaming at 220bpm (for a decent length, not 5 notes, that isn't streaming).

Also, my upper limit for streaming is like 205bpm. If you can full combo rog-unlimitation, then yeah, you can stream 220 I guess.
Mathsma

Bauxe wrote:

cheezstik wrote:

Don't remember mentioning spamming or mashing, but I'll clear it up anyway; I can accurately stream 220bpm.

The self-glorification aside, my original on-topic point is that if someone at my level of play can do 220bpm (something higher than my level of play) on a regular keyboard, then it is safe to say that for someone at my level or lower (such as OP), a mechanical keyboard is not needed or 100% worth it, because as bauxe said, it won't make much difference.

Now on the other hand if you are bauxe-level good, go ahead and grab a mechanical keyboard, it's most likely worth it.
I really want to see a replay of you streaming at 220bpm (for a decent length, not 5 notes, that isn't streaming).

Also, my upper limit for streaming is like 205bpm. If you can full combo rog-unlimitation, then yeah, you can stream 220 I guess.
rog-unlimitation has super low od or something, its really easy to do even if you cant stream near its bpm.
Purple
Probably not, depends on how much you type. It IS worth it to get a mechanical numpad, though.

If not for gameplay then it's for health reasons. Playing with mechanical keys lowers the risk of tendon injuries.

Back 3 years ago before I got my mech keyboard I couldn't even stream 140 bpm. After I got it, I didn't get much faster but it did help me not get fatigued as easily.
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