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Topic Starter
-Mo-
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 16 December 2014 at 00:31:59

Artist: senya
Title: Cinderella Avatar
Source: Touhou
Tags: Yuuhei Satellite TH10 Mountain of Faith Native Moriya Suwako Iceon Kamase-tora 幽閉サテライト ネイティブフェイス 東方風神録
BPM: 145
Filesize: 7908kb
Play Time: 03:50
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.37 stars, 201 notes)
  2. Hard (3.2 stars, 438 notes)
  3. Lunatic (4.24 stars, 713 notes)
  4. Normal (2.1 stars, 297 notes)
Download: senya - Cinderella Avatar
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Dropped.
"More Suwaaaakkoooo~"
Title: シンデレラアバター
Arrangement: Iceon
Lyrics: かませ虎 (Kamase-tora)
Vocals: senya
Circle: 幽閉サテライト (Yuuhei Satellite)
Album: シンデレラアバター
Original title: ネイティブフェイス (Native Faith)
Source: 東方風神録 ~ Mountain of Faith, Extra Stage Boss, Moriya Suwako's Theme
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I'm not gifted enough to rank the first thing I map.
Major Changes
- 04 Sep 2014 Changed spacing to most of Normal.
- 09 Sep 2014: Changed spacing to most of Hard; Shaping fixes to Lunatic.
- 14 Sep 2014: Normal difficulty reduced to Easy after a mod. A new Normal is in progress.
- 17 Sep 2014: Added custom colours.
- 23 Sep 2014: Added new Normal difficulty.
- 13 Oct 2014: Lunatic difficulty has been remapped from scratch. Old version can be downloaded here (This will be updated to a .osz at a later date).
kristi71111
From #modreqs
Normal

SPOILER
00:55:969 (2) - end is not snapped
00:59:279 (2) - end is not snapped
01:03:417 (1) - end is not snapped
01:03:417 (1) - end is not snapped
01:05:072 (1) - end is not snapped
01:52:243 (2) - end is not snapped
Why so much kia time XD
Hard

SPOILER
00:59:279 (3) - end is not snapped
01:03:417 (1) - end is not snapped
01:07:348 (1) - end is not snapped
01:12:520 (3) - end is not snapped
01:20:589 (1) - end is not snapped
01:52:243 (3) - end is not snapped
Some distance snap warnings (aimod) (u can get to aimod by pressing ctrl,shift,a at the same time)
Screen shot :
Lunatic

SPOILER
Some distance snap warnings (aimod) (u can get to aimod by pressing ctrl,shift,a at the same time)
Screen shot:
Topic Starter
-Mo-

kristi71111 wrote:

From #modreqs
Normal

SPOILER
00:55:969 (2) - end is not snapped
00:59:279 (2) - end is not snapped
01:03:417 (1) - end is not snapped
01:03:417 (1) - end is not snapped
01:05:072 (1) - end is not snapped
01:52:243 (2) - end is not snapped
Why so much kia time XD
Hard

SPOILER
00:59:279 (3) - end is not snapped
01:03:417 (1) - end is not snapped
01:07:348 (1) - end is not snapped
01:12:520 (3) - end is not snapped
01:20:589 (1) - end is not snapped
01:52:243 (3) - end is not snapped
Some distance snap warnings (aimod) (u can get to aimod by pressing ctrl,shift,a at the same time)
Screen shot :
Lunatic

SPOILER
Some distance snap warnings (aimod) (u can get to aimod by pressing ctrl,shift,a at the same time)
Screen shot:
Fixed all snapping errors.
I don't agree with the AIMod with most of the distance snapping, but I've adjusted the ones I feel are reasonable. Any pointers on why I'm still getting warnings is appreciated.
This song seems to have a lot of chorus, and I can't really see where to reduce any Kiai. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks for modding :)
[ Nyx ]
From #modreqs

I'm bored, I don' want to (try to >.<) farm anymore so why not mod huh?

These are just suggestions change what you think you should.

[Lunatic]

Hmmmm... I thinking this difficulty should be AR 8, just because the BPM is slow and I'd bet a ton of people would want to DT this. That's just my opinion though you can keep to AR 9 if you'd like.

00:36:108 (2,3,4,5) - Fix this square formation.
00:39:419 (1) - I'd move this note to x:412 y:100 to make a better triangle shape with (5) & (4). You may need to readjust notes that come after.
00:55:763 (2) - Place this note a little bit higher so that it flows better
01:24:107 (3,1,1) - Improve these blankets. Try using the approach circles as a guide to make a good blanket. Kind of like this:
01:29:072 (2,3,4,5) - Fix the square formation a little bit
02:01:347 (1) - Place this note closer to the stream so that way it has consistant spacing just like the stream
03:17:482 (1,1,1) - Stack these slider tails better. Ctrl-G to find out where the tails are placed and then move them accordingly. After the are stacked on the same x/y coordinates Ctrl-G to make it the tail again.

[Hard]

01:43:141 (3,4) - Why not make these 2 sliders the same shape?
01:52:037 (2) - Stack this note properly with these notes 01:50:796 (2,3,4)
02:40:242 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I don't know about having a stream in hard... You can make half of it a repeat slider just so that it's not too big of a stream.

[Normal]

My only complaint about this difficulty is that I wish it was 0.7x distance spacing and not 0.6x. With 0.6x I think the notes are too close together but with 0.7x the notes are spread out enough so that they are not too far away or too close (close enough that they are touching or just barely)

As to why you're still getting issues with AiMod, sometimes it could just be AiMod's fault, when I map I get errors from AiMod, I go and check but no matter what I do it wont go away. Though keep in mind this is only sometimes. It's best to go back and double check just in case.

Anyways good map. Keep up the great work!
Topic Starter
-Mo-

Z3R0Xx wrote:

[Lunatic]

Hmmmm... I thinking this difficulty should be AR 8, just because the BPM is slow and I'd bet a ton of people would want to DT this. That's just my opinion though you can keep to AR 9 if you'd like. I believe AR8 is too slow for a stream-heavy map.

00:36:108 (2,3,4,5) - Fix this square formation. Done.
00:39:419 (1) - I'd move this note to x:412 y:100 to make a better triangle shape with (5) & (4). You may need to readjust notes that come after. Done.
00:55:763 (2) - Place this note a little bit higher so that it flows better Done.
01:24:107 (3,1,1) - Improve these blankets. Try using the approach circles as a guide to make a good blanket. Kind of like this: Done.
01:29:072 (2,3,4,5) - Fix the square formation a little bit Done.
02:01:347 (1) - Place this note closer to the stream so that way it has consistant spacing just like the stream Done.
03:17:482 (1,1,1) - Stack these slider tails better. Ctrl-G to find out where the tails are placed and then move them accordingly. After the are stacked on the same x/y coordinates Ctrl-G to make it the tail again. Done.

[Hard]

01:43:141 (3,4) - Why not make these 2 sliders the same shape? Done.
01:52:037 (2) - Stack this note properly with these notes 01:50:796 (2,3,4) Done.
02:40:242 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I don't know about having a stream in hard... You can make half of it a repeat slider just so that it's not too big of a stream. Done.

[Normal]

My only complaint about this difficulty is that I wish it was 0.7x distance spacing and not 0.6x. With 0.6x I think the notes are too close together but with 0.7x the notes are spread out enough so that they are not too far away or too close (close enough that they are touching or just barely) Did what I can to make spacing more reasonable during the Kiai time.
Thanks for modding :)
kakifly
no kudosu please; this is not a mod; just something i noticed

you may want to add a preview point; go to the exact point on the timeline and click 'timing' (very top) then click 'set current position as preview point'
good luck
Topic Starter
-Mo-

kakifly wrote:

no kudosu please; this is not a mod; just something i noticed

you may want to add a preview point; go to the exact point on the timeline and click 'timing' (very top) then click 'set current position as preview point'
good luck
Thing is I did add a preview point. I did notice that it doesn't seem to work on the website preview. I'll try re-add it and see what happens though.
kakifly
hey m4m here !

General

- Add combo colors?
- Having 100% all the time volume imo is kind of annoying; try lowering the volume at some parts that are quiet and have the kiai time the loudest
- try a blank slider slide; the default sound is a bit annoying http://puu.sh/bwA1c/d5f2e0f5b4.wav

Kiai

- i think the current kiai's you have are wrong; ive looked over the song a bit and i've provided the kiai points; i cant guarantee that i can correct tho
(first kiai is fine)
Second Kiai start at same spot to 01:06:728 , have a gap since the music slows down, begin kiai again at 01:08:383 , no changes to the end
Third Kiai start at same spot to 01:59:692 again have a gap ^ begin again at 02:01:347 end at same spot
Fourth Kiai start at same spot to 03:09:207, start again at 03:10:862 end at same spot
Fifth Kiai start at same spot to 03:38:999, start again at 03:43:964 end at same spot


Normal

- Some of the diff settings are too high; since you don't have an easy (yet?) you should lower them; using decimals of 0.1 on these are somewhat infamous among modders so i would suggest making HP = 4, AR = 4(or stay the same; i guess ar 5 is fine too) OD = 3 or 4 and maybe CS 3?
- check aimod on distane snap; theres just a few notes that should be fixed
-00:11:282 (2,1) - - imo i dont like sliders arraged like this; maybe curve slider 1 a bit ? adjustments in spacing is needed for the next slider
- 00:48:522 (1) - this slider is pretty long and covers some nice music (the whistle like sound) which could be mapped
- 01:04:245 (2) - same as 00:11:282 (2,1) -
- 01:03:418 (1) - remove nc for better consistency
- 01:43:141 (2,3) - line these up maybe?
- 01:48:106 (1,2) - same as 00:11:282 (2,1) -
- 01:54:726 (1,2,1,2) - ^ i'll probably stop mentioning these at this point since its just my opinion xD
- 02:09:622 (1) - remove nc; consistency
- 02:33:622 (1,2,3) - 02:35:277 (2,3,4) 02:36:932 (2,3,4) - - i really suggest not to have these; have a 1/2 repeat instead or have a 1/1 slider if it gets too repetitive (its okay to simplify these rhythm in easier diffs)
- 02:40:242 (2,3,4,5,6) - this is definetly a no xD find some other rhythm to replace this
- 02:55:966 (1) - this spinner is a bit short and from the end of the spinner to the beginning of the next slider is too short of a time; i recommend having a 2/1 gap from the spinner to the next note in easier diffs since its especially hard for beginners to get to notes so quickly after a spinner
- 03:07:552 (1) - overlaps health bar a bit; move it down
- 03:09:207 (3) - this slider ends on a strong downbeat which i highly suggest you change because its best if you emphasize a strong downbeat with the start of a note
- 03:19:137 (1) - remove NC for a better nc consistency;
- 03:30:723 (1,2,1,2) - the distance in spacing between these notes are uneven
- add spinner after 03:33:206 (2) - ?
- 03:38:999 (3) - ^
- 03:45:619 (3,4) - spacing?????

well i can say; having this as your first map is very good; the rhythm overall is fine but the way you arrange notes is a bit basic and a lot of sliders have no unique-ness to them, as you map more you will gain more experience on mapping.

Hard

-00:03:213 (4) - having this start on the red tick feels weird, and personally i dislike sliders longer than 1/2 with more than 1 repeat
- 00:08:385 add note / map this part
- 00:08:799 (1,2,1,2) - their arrangement gets boring since its very repetitive
- 00:28:660 (1) - i suggest lengthening this to the white tick; theres not really a point in mapping the vocals here since the next note is a circle and ending it on a blue tick casts the player offbeat
- 00:30:316 (1) - ^
- 00:35:281 (1) - 00:34:660 (2) - avoid overlap? move slider 1 to the right a bit
- 00:39:005 add note
- 00:41:694 (6) - stack this on 00:41:901 (1) - for better readability
- 00:49:349 (2) - woah weird slider; a simple curve would work xD
- 00:52:039 this part would be great for a bunch of 1/4 repeat sliders; listen to the music
- 00:56:177 (4) - same thing as my first suggestion
- 00:59:073 (2) - this jump isnt really necessary and nothing in the music (important instrument/ beat) to suggest nor is it a new combo (combo jumps are popular apparently) theres one like this at the beginning too 00:06:110 (2) - that i forgot to mention xD
- 01:01:349 maybe you dont know this since its ur first map but a map should keep a consistent beat as well not just follow vocals and main instrumentals because other wise it leaves an awkward pause in the map
- 01:12:314 (2) - same as 00:59:073 (2)
- 01:14:590 same as 01:01:349
- 01:17:486 (2) - overlaps a bit with the health bar; move it down
- 01:36:520 (1,2,1,2) - this gets a bit repetitive imo
- 01:45:003 same as 00:52:039
- 01:47:485 - why dont you map this part? theres a clear instrumental in the music
- 01:52:037 (2) - same as 00:59:073 (2)
- 01:54:313 same as 01:01:349 ill stop mentioning these now so please consider it
- 01:54:726 (1,2,1,2) - there are a a lot of other rhythms you can try other than having these sliders 4 times
- 01:59:899 (1) - remove nc? dont see the point in having it
- 02:02:381 (4) - again with the repeats >o<
- 02:05:278 (2) - i think you'll know what i am gonna say
- 02:13:140 (1) - remove nc
- 02:28:656 (1,2,3) - these repeats are quite long imo; have one last 3/4 of a beat rather than 6/4
- 02:31:139 (1) - this long slider feels out of place
- 02:31:967 (1,2,3) - now this is just getting repetitive Dx
- 02:39:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - imo i dont like streams of more than 3 circles in hard
- 02:58:655 (4) - the repeaaaattssss ;_;
- 03:01:552 (2) - that jump again q_q
- 03:09:414 (1) - remove nc for consistency
- 03:11:896 (4) - 03:14:793 (2) - lol i think i'll stop mentioning these now
- 03:22:654 (1) - remove nc
- 03:34:033 add note?
- 03:49:136 (1) - remove nc
- 03:50:585 (5) - add nc

again its pretty good for your first map but there is a lack of experience and a lot of the time it gets very repetitive; you pretty much use the same rhythm for the kiai times. Sorry if my mod was a bit mediocre ; mostly towards the end >_<

i would suggest you really look at how the newer ranked maps are made while playing/ watching replays to get better ideas for your map

good luck !
Topic Starter
-Mo-

kakifly wrote:

hey m4m here !

General

- Add combo colors? Will look into, for now I'll keep default.
- Having 100% all the time volume imo is kind of annoying; try lowering the volume at some parts that are quiet and have the kiai time the loudest Lowered all non-kiai timing to 75% volume.
- try a blank slider slide; the default sound is a bit annoying http://puu.sh/bwA1c/d5f2e0f5b4.wav Done.

Kiai

- i think the current kiai's you have are wrong; ive looked over the song a bit and i've provided the kiai points; i cant guarantee that i can correct tho
(first kiai is fine)
Second Kiai start at same spot to 01:06:728 , have a gap since the music slows down, begin kiai again at 01:08:383 , no changes to the end I split the Kiai, but made the gap smaller than you suggested so that it is more consistent with the first Kiai and so that it doesn't end halfway through a vocal line.
Third Kiai start at same spot to 01:59:692 again have a gap ^ begin again at 02:01:347 end at same spot Same as above.
Fourth Kiai start at same spot to 03:09:207, start again at 03:10:862 end at same spot Same as above
Fifth Kiai start at same spot to 03:38:999, start again at 03:43:964 end at same spot I think this is over-doing it.


Normal

- Some of the diff settings are too high; since you don't have an easy (yet?) you should lower them; using decimals of 0.1 on these are somewhat infamous among modders so i would suggest making HP = 4, AR = 4(or stay the same; i guess ar 5 is fine too) OD = 3 or 4 and maybe CS 3? HP4 AR4 OD4 CS3 I also dropped the difficulty of this down to Easy since the star rating dropped drastically after this mod.
- check aimod on distane snap; theres just a few notes that should be fixed Fixed the second one; the first one doesn't make sense to me.
-00:11:282 (2,1) - - imo i dont like sliders arraged like this; maybe curve slider 1 a bit ? adjustments in spacing is needed for the next slider Alright.
- 00:48:522 (1) - this slider is pretty long and covers some nice music (the whistle like sound) which could be mapped Replaced with circles.
- 01:04:245 (2) - same as 00:11:282 (2,1) Done.
- 01:03:418 (1) - remove nc for better consistency Fixed.
- 01:43:141 (2,3) - line these up maybe? Fixed.
- 01:48:106 (1,2) - same as 00:11:282 (2,1) Done.
- 01:54:726 (1,2,1,2) - ^ i'll probably stop mentioning these at this point since its just my opinion xD The square patten is intended here. I will look at the other sliders and fix where I think I can though.
- 02:09:622 (1) - remove nc; consistency Done.
- 02:33:622 (1,2,3) - 02:35:277 (2,3,4) 02:36:932 (2,3,4) - - i really suggest not to have these; have a 1/2 repeat instead or have a 1/1 slider if it gets too repetitive (its okay to simplify these rhythm in easier diffs) Replaced with sliders.
- 02:40:242 (2,3,4,5,6) - this is definetly a no xD find some other rhythm to replace this
- 02:55:966 (1) - this spinner is a bit short and from the end of the spinner to the beginning of the next slider is too short of a time; i recommend having a 2/1 gap from the spinner to the next note in easier diffs since its especially hard for beginners to get to notes so quickly after a spinner Went and removed the spinner altogether.
- 03:07:552 (1) - overlaps health bar a bit; move it down Fixed.
- 03:09:207 (3) - this slider ends on a strong downbeat which i highly suggest you change because its best if you emphasize a strong downbeat with the start of a note It's been like that for the entire song, but okay, I changed this and everywhere else where relevant.
- 03:19:137 (1) - remove NC for a better nc consistency; Fixed.
- 03:30:723 (1,2,1,2) - the distance in spacing between these notes are uneven Fixed.
- add spinner after 03:33:206 (2) - ? Alright. Going to make this consistent with the other difficulties too.
- 03:38:999 (3) - ^ Alright. Same as above.
- 03:45:619 (3,4) - spacing????? Fixed.

well i can say; having this as your first map is very good; the rhythm overall is fine but the way you arrange notes is a bit basic and a lot of sliders have no unique-ness to them, as you map more you will gain more experience on mapping.

Hard

-00:03:213 (4) - having this start on the red tick feels weird, and personally i dislike sliders longer than 1/2 with more than 1 repeat Changed.
- 00:08:385 add note / map this part Okay.
- 00:08:799 (1,2,1,2) - their arrangement gets boring since its very repetitive Moved it around a bit. Not much else I can do without compromising the polarity.
- 00:28:660 (1) - i suggest lengthening this to the white tick; theres not really a point in mapping the vocals here since the next note is a circle and ending it on a blue tick casts the player offbeat Ehh, alright fine.
- 00:30:316 (1) - ^ As above.
- 00:35:281 (1) - 00:34:660 (2) - avoid overlap? move slider 1 to the right a bit Fixed.
- 00:39:005 add note Done, in my own way
- 00:41:694 (6) - stack this on 00:41:901 (1) - for better readability Alright.
- 00:49:349 (2) - woah weird slider; a simple curve would work xD Fixed as best as I can.
- 00:52:039 this part would be great for a bunch of 1/4 repeat sliders; listen to the music Alright, it works.
- 00:56:177 (4) - same thing as my first suggestion Changed.
- 00:59:073 (2) - this jump isnt really necessary and nothing in the music (important instrument/ beat) to suggest nor is it a new combo (combo jumps are popular apparently) theres one like this at the beginning too 00:06:110 (2) - that i forgot to mention xD Changed both.
- 01:01:349 maybe you dont know this since its ur first map but a map should keep a consistent beat as well not just follow vocals and main instrumentals because other wise it leaves an awkward pause in the map Fixed.
- 01:12:314 (2) - same as 00:59:073 (2) Done.
- 01:14:590 same as 01:01:349 Fixed.
- 01:17:486 (2) - overlaps a bit with the health bar; move it down Not on my end; it's just a screen size thing.
- 01:36:520 (1,2,1,2) - this gets a bit repetitive imo Changed.
- 01:45:003 same as 00:52:039 Changed.
- 01:47:485 - why dont you map this part? theres a clear instrumental in the music Changed from prvious suggestion
- 01:52:037 (2) - same as 00:59:073 (2) Changed.
- 01:54:313 same as 01:01:349 ill stop mentioning these now so please consider it Done.
- 01:54:726 (1,2,1,2) - there are a a lot of other rhythms you can try other than having these sliders 4 times I don't think I can do much without compromising polarity.
- 01:59:899 (1) - remove nc? dont see the point in having it It's been like this throughout the enitre song so far but okay.
- 02:02:381 (4) - again with the repeats >o< Yep, changed.
- 02:05:278 (2) - i think you'll know what i am gonna say Yeah, changed.
- 02:13:140 (1) - remove nc Done.
- 02:28:656 (1,2,3) - these repeats are quite long imo; have one last 3/4 of a beat rather than 6/4Changing how long they are half-way through the combo would throw people off, plus I would rather not have them all 3/4 to start this section off with.
- 02:31:139 (1) - this long slider feels out of place Not really sure what else to do here, unless you have suggestions.
- 02:31:967 (1,2,3) - now this is just getting repetitive Dx Kept this, as above.
- 02:39:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - imo i dont like streams of more than 3 circles in hard I don't see anything wrong with fairly small streams in Hard. There are plenty of Hard difficulties out there with them.
- 02:58:655 (4) - the repeaaaattssss ;_; Changed.
- 03:01:552 (2) - that jump again q_q Yeah, changed.
- 03:09:414 (1) - remove nc for consistency Done.
- 03:11:896 (4) - 03:14:793 (2) - lol i think i'll stop mentioning these now Yeah, changed both.
- 03:22:654 (1) - remove nc Done.
- 03:34:033 add note? Added spinner for consistency with Normal/Easy mod.
- 03:49:136 (1) - remove nc Done.
- 03:50:585 (5) - add nc It's under a triple stack, so it doesn't do much. Plus it'll be inconsistent with the rest of the song.
Thanks for modding :)
blaterwolf
hi sorry late mod

[General]

you know the hitsound from With a Dance Number? and Sentimental Skyscraper?
the Audience Claps? try using that in the map it will fit perfectly :3 (only on first note on kiai)

[Easy]

00:43:556 (1) - you misplaced one dot here , notice it :3 or intentional?

01:36:520 (1) - ^

01:44:796 (1,2,3) - if you notice this 00:51:832 (1,2,3) - has spaces but that part doesn't , Intentional again?

[Normal]

01:07:969 (2) - NC?

02:00:933 (2) - ^

[Hard]

00:49:349 (2) - this doesn't fit into the song try to shorten the slider (use 50%)

02:28:656 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - divide this sliders since this is hard

[Insane]

Please OD 7.5 only

00:08:799 (1,1,1) - uh Remove NC i presume

02:29:587 (10) - NC

02:30:311 (1) - Remove NC

02:30:518 (3) - NC

02:32:794 (10) - NC

02:35:380 (10) - NC

02:37:035 (10) - NC

02:40:346 (10) - NC

Good Luck ~ (the Hitsound its so good) :) :D
Topic Starter
-Mo-

SkyBearer245 wrote:

hi sorry late mod

[General]

you know the hitsound from With a Dance Number? and Sentimental Skyscraper?
the Audience Claps? try using that in the map it will fit perfectly :3 (only on first note on kiai) Hm, kind of a weird sound to introduce but I'll mess around with it and see what it's like.

[Easy]

00:43:556 (1) - you misplaced one dot here , notice it :3 or intentional? That's a mistake, fixed.

01:36:520 (1) - ^ Fixed

01:44:796 (1,2,3) - if you notice this 00:51:832 (1,2,3) - has spaces but that part doesn't , Intentional again? Was intentional, but it would be better if it was consistent.

[Normal]

01:07:969 (2) - NC? Alright.

02:00:933 (2) - ^ Alright.

[Hard]

00:49:349 (2) - this doesn't fit into the song try to shorten the slider (use 50%) Shortening this doesn't seem to make it even better, unless I use a reverse, which will get repetetive.

02:28:656 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - divide this sliders since this is hard I got called out to change it like this in the previous mod because it was "too repetetive". Maybe I'll change it back, but I'll leave it for now.

[Insane]

Please OD 7.5 only Lowered.

00:08:799 (1,1,1) - uh Remove NC i presume Intentional.

02:29:587 (10) - NC This is a blue tick, and I'd rather keep the combo length at 16 since the song is in 4:4.

02:30:311 (1) - Remove NC Left this as per above.

02:30:518 (3) - NC This is a blue tick, and I'd rather keep the combo length at 16 since the song is in 4:4.

02:32:794 (10) - NC Same as above

02:35:380 (10) - NC Same as above

02:37:035 (10) - NC Same as above

02:40:346 (10) - NC Same as above

Good Luck ~ (the Hitsound its so good) :) :D
If you strongly disagree with my opinions, feel free to message me via PM or in-game.

Thanks for modding :)
Neliel
hi,
from my Queue. Sorry for the delay. I love senya, thanks for mapping a senya song.

General stuff
  1. You shouldn't break the kiai for such a short time. So pls delete the kiai end and keep it going. Example delete this 01:07:556 and 01:08:383
  2. Avoid stacking in Easy and Normal
  3. Don't change the slider velocity in Easy and Normal.
  4. You need to keep the distance snap in Easy and Normal. You have distance snap changes, because of your SV changes.

    I really like your hitsounding.
Easy
  1. 00:32:384 - I think you should put a circle here or change 00:31:971 (1) - with a slider, because the vocal offers it
  2. 00:33:212 - ^
  3. 01:38:175 - ^
  4. 00:41:901 (1,1) - They are overlapping just a tiny bit, but it doesn't look so nice.
  5. 01:46:451 (3,1) - Distance snapping between those notes is too low
  6. 01:58:864 (2) - Maybe change the shape like this : http://puu.sh/c0am4/42da7ec3d0.jpg
  7. 03:47:274 (1,2) - ^
  8. 02:40:656 (3) - This could be confusing for newbies.

    Well, this dif. needs some work, but it was already nice.
Normal
  1. 00:12:937 (2,1) - why the sudden distance snap change
  2. 00:31:971 - same as in Easy
  3. 00:45:212 (1,2) - ^
  4. 01:04:659 (4,1) - Distance snap, please check the whole dif. for those. Its unrankable.
  5. 01:38:176 (1,2) - Same as in easy
  6. 01:41:486 (1,2,3,4) - I think you already know that I dont like those, because the vocal offers something else

    I like the design in this map, but you used stacks way to often.
Hard
  1. Ar + 1 (?)
  2. HP Drain -1 (?)
  3. 00:49:349 (2) - The vocal ends on the red tick, so the slider should end on the red tick too
  4. 01:11:693 (1) - put the end one grid higher
  5. 01:23:279 (1,2) - you should consider changing this, it is confusing for the player if the slider ends on the blue tick and the next circle is on a red tick.
  6. 01:29:072 (2) - Change the shape to something like this : http://puu.sh/c0cOu/62520d10fc.jpg
  7. 02:31:967 (1,2) - Maybe change some of those with streams?
  8. 02:55:966 (1) - End this spinner on the white tick
  9. 03:31:551 (2,1) - Change it so the end don't overlap.

    Nice Dif.
Lunatic
  1. Change CS to 4 ?

  2. 00:08:178 (1,2,3) - Why did you put a jump here?
  3. 00:08:799 (1,1) - You like this kind of slider, dont you :D But I think you overused them a bit
  4. 00:29:074 - put here a circle to avoid to confuse the player?
  5. 00:30:729 - ^
  6. 01:01:142 (1,2,3) - This jump feels random
  7. 01:14:383 (1,2,3) - ^ ( well, those jumps are playable, but I didnt enjoy them.)
  8. 01:17:486 (1,2,3) - I am not a fan of this. It fits, but it is not really nice to play.
  9. 02:07:347 (1,2,3) - This doesnt look so nice. You should reduce the spacing between 2 and 3 and try to get a nice triangle
  10. 02:28:243 - Maybe a circle
  11. 02:31:139 (1) - Those slider are unrankable if I remember correct.
  12. 03:03:621 (1,2,3) - Well you already know my feelings about this
  13. 03:06:724 (1,2,3) - ^
  14. 03:16:862 (1,2,3) - ^ If you have to put a jump like this then you better stack the 3 at the start of 03:17:482 (1)
  15. 03:17:482 (1) - why NC?
  16. 03:19:965 (1,2,3) - ^^
  17. 03:20:792 (1) - Why NC?
  18. 03:22:654 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ Well I saw those NC too late, so try to apply those changes to the beginning of the map too

    Nice dif. which needs much work, but I see potential.
So I hope you continue getting mods for this. This can be a really nice mapset.

~ Deadly ~
Topic Starter
-Mo-

Deadlyneliel wrote:

hi,
from my Queue. Sorry for the delay. I love senya, thanks for mapping a senya song.

General stuff
  1. You shouldn't break the kiai for such a short time. So pls delete the kiai end and keep it going. Example delete this 01:07:556 and 01:08:383 I like the effect this gives.
  2. Avoid stacking in Easy and Normal I'll see what I can do.
  3. Don't change the slider velocity in Easy and Normal. Having a static slider velocity throughout kind of makes the map mundane, but I might change it if I get more feedback on this.
  4. You need to keep the distance snap in Easy and Normal. You have distance snap changes, because of your SV changes. Yes, it is to compensate for the SV change. The distance is still physically larger in Kiai than elsewhere which is what I was aiming for. Again, I'll change this with enough feedback.

    I really like your hitsounding.
Easy
  1. 00:32:384 - I think you should put a circle here or change 00:31:971 (1) - with a slider, because the vocal offers it Changed with sliders.
  2. 00:33:212 - ^ Same as above.
  3. 01:38:175 - ^ Same as above.
  4. 00:41:901 (1,1) - They are overlapping just a tiny bit, but it doesn't look so nice. Fixed.
  5. 01:46:451 (3,1) - Distance snapping between those notes is too low Remapped.
  6. 01:58:864 (2) - Maybe change the shape like this : http://puu.sh/c0am4/42da7ec3d0.jpg Done.
  7. 03:47:274 (1,2) - ^ This is supposed to be a reflection of 03:43:964 (1,2) to make a heart shape.
  8. 02:40:656 (3) - This could be confusing for newbies. Changed.

    Well, this dif. needs some work, but it was already nice.
Normal
  1. 00:12:937 (2,1) - why the sudden distance snap change Changed.
  2. 00:31:971 - same as in Easy Changed
  3. 00:45:212 (1,2) - ^ Changed.
  4. 01:04:659 (4,1) - Distance snap, please check the whole dif. for those. Its unrankable. Fixed.
  5. 01:38:176 (1,2) - Same as in easy Changed.
  6. 01:41:486 (1,2,3,4) - I think you already know that I dont like those, because the vocal offers something else This is intentional to match the bells in the background.

    I like the design in this map, but you used stacks way to often.
Hard
  1. Ar + 1 (?) Alright.
  2. HP Drain -1 (?) HP5 seems way too low for Hard.
  3. 00:49:349 (2) - The vocal ends on the red tick, so the slider should end on the red tick too Fixed.
  4. 01:11:693 (1) - put the end one grid higher Done.
  5. 01:23:279 (1,2) - you should consider changing this, it is confusing for the player if the slider ends on the blue tick and the next circle is on a red tick. Fixed.
  6. 01:29:072 (2) - Change the shape to something like this : http://puu.sh/c0cOu/62520d10fc.jpg Changed in my own way.
  7. 02:31:967 (1,2) - Maybe change some of those with streams? Changed one, may or may not keep it.
  8. 02:55:966 (1) - End this spinner on the white tick Alright.
  9. 03:31:551 (2,1) - Change it so the end don't overlap. Changed.

    Nice Dif.
Lunatic
  1. Change CS to 4 ? I didn't really want CS4 for this difficulty.

  2. 00:08:178 (1,2,3) - Why did you put a jump here? This jump seems reasonable, though I might change it with more feedback.
  3. 00:08:799 (1,1) - You like this kind of slider, dont you :D But I think you overused them a bit I don't see a problem with this, it is across different difficulties.
  4. 00:29:074 - put here a circle to avoid to confuse the player? Alright.
  5. 00:30:729 - ^ Alright.
  6. 01:01:142 (1,2,3) - This jump feels random Reduced it.
  7. 01:14:383 (1,2,3) - ^ ( well, those jumps are playable, but I didnt enjoy them.) Reduced it.
  8. 01:17:486 (1,2,3) - I am not a fan of this. It fits, but it is not really nice to play. Reduced distance. I'd rather circles here than another slider.
  9. 02:07:347 (1,2,3) - This doesnt look so nice. You should reduce the spacing between 2 and 3 and try to get a nice triangle Alright.
  10. 02:28:243 - Maybe a circle Alright.
  11. 02:31:139 (1) - Those slider are unrankable if I remember correct. I've seen plenty of them before. If you can show me where it says it is unrankable, I will change it.
  12. 03:03:621 (1,2,3) - Well you already know my feelings about this Reduced.
  13. 03:06:724 (1,2,3) - ^ Reduced.
  14. 03:16:862 (1,2,3) - ^ If you have to put a jump like this then you better stack the 3 at the start of 03:17:482 (1) Reduced and stacked.
  15. 03:17:482 (1) - why NC? This is intentional for the style.
  16. 03:19:965 (1,2,3) - ^^ Changed this.
  17. 03:20:792 (1) - Why NC? It's a downbeat, and I think it's better as a NC.
  18. 03:22:654 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ Well I saw those NC too late, so try to apply those changes to the beginning of the map too This NC indicates a gap between the triple and the stream.

    Nice dif. which needs much work, but I see potential.
So I hope you continue getting mods for this. This can be a really nice mapset.

~ Deadly ~
Thanks for modding :)
Neliel
Thanks for your reply. Here is the link to the rule which forbids the kind of slider I mentioned. t/158947
Midge
Hey, posting to let you know I haven't gotten to your map yet, but I'll do it eventually. I've been doing a bunch of school work and I've lost a lot of motivation in osu, but I'll definitely get to it.
Topic Starter
-Mo-

Deadlyneliel wrote:

Thanks for your reply. Here is the link to the rule which forbids the kind of slider I mentioned. t/158947
The last post of that thread says that the request for a rule change was denied. Regardless, I messed around with the slider and found a new design which is less obtuse, gives the same effect, and overall looks nicer. Thanks.
Midge
IM SO LATE IM REALLY SORRY

[Lunatic]
Really slow, 145 bpm songs shouldn't be streamy. Try experimenting with kick sliders.
I'd recommend change the AR to 8 or 8.5. Also change to OD 7 or 6.5 and the HP to 6 or 7. As of now, it's too high for this level.
Turn down the use of finishes, too.

00:48:522 (1) - i think you use these sliders too often, it's cool looking, yea, but it's overused.
00:49:349 (2) - this can be improved: http://puu.sh/c7Av7/6f0deaf411.jpg
00:54:729 - put a slider that starts here and ends at the next red tick. it's kind of disorientating to have the stream end on the blue tick
01:05:487 (2,3,4,5) - these can be blanketed: http://puu.sh/c7AQS/8d232e78cc.gif
01:11:693 (1,1) - make these parallel: http://puu.sh/c7AUn/d27ed25157.jpg
01:18:728 (2,3,4) - improve the blanket on these
01:24:107 (4,1,1) - ^
01:42:313 (2) - just use 1 anchor, using 2 gets wonky
01:43:141 (1,2) - blanket?
01:47:589 - same as 00:54:729
02:04:657 (1,1) - blanket
02:34:346 (6,1) - idk about this. you can keep it, but i wouldn't recommend doing this
02:55:966 (1) - end the spinner at 02:57:207
03:17:275 (3,1) - stack pls

Your streams are wonky. They do this thing where the end of it curves less than the beginning. Using the convert-to-stream function gives you beauties like this.

I'm too lazy to do the other diffs, but I'll do it if you need me to. Good luck o/
Julie
[General]
Might want to lower the hitsound volume for all your level, mostly because it has so much finish >,<... kinda hurt ears a lots xD

[Easy]

^ should be respecting same distance spacing in easy
00:49:349 (2) and 00:51:005 (4) - has same y so 00:48:522 (1) and 00:50:177 (3) - should have the same x ^^
01:34:865 (1) - whistle at the end of slider
01:36:520 (1) - ^
02:12:933 (3) - 3rd slider point to x:362 y:175 and last point x:280 y:111
03:22:448 (3) - improve blanket
03:23:585 (4) - sudden blue stick in easy is too hard to timed, mostly when is a circle >,<

[Normal]

01:11:280 (1,2,3) - perfectly stack
01:35:693 (2) - whistle?
01:37:348 (2) - ^
01:50:589 (5,1) and 01:49:761 (3,4) - try making the same spacing~
01:52:244 (4) - sightly improve blanket with 01:53:071 (1)
02:58:449 (2) - ^ with 02:59:276 (3)

[Hard]
00:41:281 (5) - remove finish at the end of the reverse slider
00:44:384 (2) - nazii~ move the slider end point a bit up so all the slider itself has the same spacing with 00:43:556 (1)
00:45:212 (1,2) - create symetric with 00:43:556 (1,2)
00:51:832 (1,2,1,2,3) - Might be a bit to insane for a hard xD, is better then stream, but is easy to combo break mostly (1,2) is different from(1,2,3)
01:06:935 (4) - remove finish, hear like 2 finish on a triple look like a double sound to me while playing
01:20:176 (4) - ^
01:33:417 (3,4,5) - same spacing
01:52:244 (3) - x:128
03:50:378 (3,4) - remove finish

[Insane]
00:36:108 (2,3,4,5) - perfect square like this one 00:37:764 (2,3,4,5) :3
01:20:176 (1) - remove finish, to much finish xD
01:21:417 (9,10) - remove finish, add claps instead (or nothing) with this one 01:21:314 (8)
01:30:727 (2,3,4,5) - same spacing
01:33:210 (1) - move it left a bit
03:22:654 (1) - remove finish

GL with your 1st map :D
Topic Starter
-Mo-

Midge wrote:

IM SO LATE IM REALLY SORRY

[Lunatic]
Really slow, 145 bpm songs shouldn't be streamy. Try experimenting with kick sliders. I don't believe the BPM of a song should determine whether streams are suitable or not, though I'll look at kick sliders maybe.
I'd recommend change the AR to 8 or 8.5. Also change to OD 7 or 6.5 and the HP to 6 or 7. As of now, it's too high for this level. OD7, HP7. Keeping the AR.
Turn down the use of finishes, too.

00:48:522 (1) - i think you use these sliders too often, it's cool looking, yea, but it's overused. Changed.
00:49:349 (2) - this can be improved: http://puu.sh/c7Av7/6f0deaf411.jpg Changed in my own way.
00:54:729 - put a slider that starts here and ends at the next red tick. it's kind of disorientating to have the stream end on the blue tick I think this is fine since the gap in timing seems good enough for the polarity switch. May change it if I get more feedback.
01:05:487 (2,3,4,5) - these can be blanketed: http://puu.sh/c7AQS/8d232e78cc.gif I'd rather have the stack here.
01:11:693 (1,1) - make these parallel: http://puu.sh/c7AUn/d27ed25157.jpg I copied and rotated them, so they must be parallel.
01:18:728 (2,3,4) - improve the blanket on these Done.
01:24:107 (4,1,1) - ^ Done.
01:42:313 (2) - just use 1 anchor, using 2 gets wonky Alright.
01:43:141 (1,2) - blanket? This positioning was intended.
01:47:589 - same as 00:54:729 Already commented on this.
02:04:657 (1,1) - blanket Improved.
02:34:346 (6,1) - idk about this. you can keep it, but i wouldn't recommend doing this I'll keep it for now.
02:55:966 (1) - end the spinner at 02:57:207 Done.
03:17:275 (3,1) - stack pls The aim was to manually offset it but alright.

Your streams are wonky. They do this thing where the end of it curves less than the beginning. Using the convert-to-stream function gives you beauties like this. May look into.

I'm too lazy to do the other diffs, but I'll do it if you need me to. Good luck o/

Julie wrote:

[General]
Might want to lower the hitsound volume for all your level, mostly because it has so much finish >,<... kinda hurt ears a lots xD Reduced by 10%.

[Easy]

^ should be respecting same distance spacing in easy These were due to the blankets, so I fixed them.
00:49:349 (2) and 00:51:005 (4) - has same y so 00:48:522 (1) and 00:50:177 (3) - should have the same x ^^
01:34:865 (1) - whistle at the end of slider Done.
01:36:520 (1) - ^ Done.
02:12:933 (3) - 3rd slider point to x:362 y:175 and last point x:280 y:111 Fixed as per distance changes.
03:22:448 (3) - improve blanket Fixed as per distance changes.
03:23:585 (4) - sudden blue stick in easy is too hard to timed, mostly when is a circle >,< I don't see a circle on the blue tick.

[Normal]
I disagree with the AIMod here.
01:11:280 (1,2,3) - perfectly stack Fixed.
01:35:693 (2) - whistle? Done.
01:37:348 (2) - ^ Done.
01:50:589 (5,1) and 01:49:761 (3,4) - try making the same spacing~ Fixed.
01:52:244 (4) - sightly improve blanket with 01:53:071 (1) Done.
02:58:449 (2) - ^ with 02:59:276 (3) Done.

[Hard]
00:41:281 (5) - remove finish at the end of the reverse slider There is a symbal in the music which this matches perfectly.
00:44:384 (2) - nazii~ move the slider end point a bit up so all the slider itself has the same spacing with 00:43:556 (1) Fixed it a different way.
00:45:212 (1,2) - create symetric with 00:43:556 (1,2) It kind of feels repetetive that way.
00:51:832 (1,2,1,2,3) - Might be a bit to insane for a hard xD, is better then stream, but is easy to combo break mostly (1,2) is different from(1,2,3) I think this is fine.
01:06:935 (4) - remove finish, hear like 2 finish on a triple look like a double sound to me while playing Done.
01:20:176 (4) - ^ Done.
01:33:417 (3,4,5) - same spacing Fixed.
01:52:244 (3) - x:128 Alright.
03:50:378 (3,4) - remove finish Alright.

[Insane]
00:36:108 (2,3,4,5) - perfect square like this one 00:37:764 (2,3,4,5) :3 Fixed.
01:20:176 (1) - remove finish, to much finish xD Done.
01:21:417 (9,10) - remove finish, add claps instead (or nothing) with this one 01:21:314 (8) I think this is fine; claps are a no and I don't think normal hitsound is as good.
01:30:727 (2,3,4,5) - same spacing Fixed.
01:33:210 (1) - move it left a bit Fixed.
03:22:654 (1) - remove finish Done.

GL with your 1st map :D
Thanks for the mods :)
Julie
Between, just adding this that you should accept the AI mod issue in normal since unrankable issue, sometimes I do disagree with AI mod as well, it might be because it need new combo, but EASY and NORMAL, shouldn't be having any spacing error. Other level is ok, in fact it should be having~ :3. Just pointing that's out, because is necessary (I didn't made the rules)

Between no kds for this post, and GL AGAIN XD!! thanks a lots for the m4m awesome ;3
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