1. Advanced Party (2,66 stars, 465 notes)
2. Expert Party (3,64 stars, 638 notes)
3. Novice Party (1,71 stars, 248 notes)
4. Ultimate Party (4,77 stars, 820 notes)

A fun map is fraught with danger! Grind just to the right level! ♪

Novice Party - Level 1-20.
Advanced Party - Level 20-40.
Expert Party - Level 40-70.
Insane - Level 70-100.

Krisom wrote:

(pssst, artist should be "Hitoshizuku-P" / "ひとしずくP")
(don't kudosu)

Lanturn wrote:

JMQ stuff (btw paseli, I'm still working on your Prism map, give me a couple more days ;-;)
NO KD please!

Title: Party×Party
Romanised Title: Party*Party (Yes, the X isn't part of the standard unicode characters accepted in the Romanised field so we have to use a * to replace it.) Please put PartyxParty in your tags for now.

I'm not 100% entirely sure of the artist, so I'm going to get a double-check.

Artist: ひとしずく×やま△
Romanized Artist: Hitoshiziku x Yama* (Going off the romanization left on the official video. Though it has the official Japanese writing on the video description at Nico Nico, so the artist field is fine as is.)


Sources (for the next JMQ member)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23336175
http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Party%C3%97Party (Unofficial but might help)
http://www.chokaigi.jp/choparty/

Source: ニコニコ超パーティーⅢ or NicoNico ChoParty III | This song was used as the theme song for it!

• 00:30:109 (3,1) - distance looked bad here, what distance you used here?
  00:34:638 (3,1) - ^
  00:41:430 (1,2,3) - make the sliders sym
  00:52:751 (3) - a little boring when holding slider for long time
  01:10:864 (3) - ^
  01:22:185 (1,2) - make double blanket?
  02:07:468 (1) - same like 00:52:751 (3) -, reduce just one reverse and add note
  02:09:732 (1) - ^
  02:30:675 (2,3) - make something here like parallel or sym
  02:35:770 (3) - same like 02:07:468 (1) -
  03:06:336 (3,4) - same like 00:30:109 (3,1) -
  03:30:109 (1,2) - stack slider tail perfectly

• 00:08:883 (1,1,1,1) - remove some new combos here, too much draining for the hp
  00:32:373 (1,3) - stack perfectly
  01:05:204 (4,1,2) - distance is different here, or is it jump?
  01:23:317 (3,1) - stack perfectly
  01:51:619 (5) - unsharp and smooth for double blanket
  02:15:958 (2,1) - you make parallel then it overlapped with another slider
  02:42:562 (3,4) - make parallel?
  03:05:204 (1,2) - stack, or make double blanket

VeeLaHee104 wrote:

Hello, from VV modding queue~ love the song <3 =w=b <3

[Novice Party]

• 00:30:109 (3,1) - distance looked bad here, what distance you used here? My self-made one Fixed that, I'll go with 1.0x here
  00:34:638 (3,1) - ^^
  00:41:430 (1,2,3) - make the sliders sym These are actually symmetrical already. Or do you mean the whole pattern? Because in that case, i'd need to set c2 at a beat that doesn't go with the song.
  00:52:751 (3) - a little boring when holding slider for long time FReplace with slider + backslider
  01:10:864 (3) - ^ This one should be fine.
  01:22:185 (1,2) - make double blanket? okay~
  02:07:468 (1) - same like 00:52:751 (3) -, reduce just one reverse and add note Need more opinions on this, it actually fits to the vocal. Maybe it's the even number of backslides that bugs you off.
  02:09:732 (1) - ^^
  02:30:675 (2,3) - make something here like parallel or sym Fixed, that really looked terrible.
  02:35:770 (3) - same like 02:07:468 (1) - Fixed my own way.
  03:06:336 (3,4) - same like 00:30:109 (3,1) -Fixed~
  03:30:109 (1,2) - stack slider tail perfectly Used something different.

[Advanced Party]

• 00:08:883 (1,1,1,1) - remove some new combos here, too much draining for the hp Done. Not sure why i did that anyway.
  00:32:373 (1,3) - stack perfectly Fixed... I guess?
  01:05:204 (4,1,2) - distance is different here, or is it jump? Pretty sure it's the same DS, but i made this combo look prettier anyway.
  01:23:317 (3,1) - stack perfectly
  01:51:619 (5) - unsharp and smooth for double blanket Probably didn't noticed that I used edgy sliders for the orange/dark-turqoise combos here (make voices). But even then, this should be fine.
  02:15:958 (2,1) - you make parallel then it overlapped with another slider Not sure what you are meaning with this.
  02:42:562 (3,4) - make parallel? Would make for a sharp dropoff flow here which I don't want to happen too much in this map.
  03:05:204 (1,2) - stack, or make double blanket Fixed my way.

the ultimate party diff is too hard for me to mod, so i just mod two diffs... very nice map song!! Thanks for the mod!
please wait for gray veyron to mod this ~ ^^

1. Artist: ひとしずく×やま△
   Romanised artist: Hitoshizuku x Yamasankakke-
2. title: Party×Party
   (space is unnecessary)
3. tags suggetion:
   vocaloid
4. according to beatmap page, this map set is incomplete? if so, you should submit to WIP not pending

1. 00:40:298 (4) - I prefer the slider decorated with several points. revrse slider is confusing
2. 00:41:430 (1) - you should use 1/4 rhythm in the same way as others
3. 00:42:562 (3) - ^
4. 01:55:015 (2) - ^
5. 02:36:902 (1) - ^
6. 00:56:147 (2) - out of playfield unranked!!
7. 01:04:072 (1,1) - avoid overlapping
8. 01:06:336 (1,1) - ^
9. 01:22:185 (1,2) - make symmetrically
10. 01:44:826 (1,1,1,1) - NC rush is unnecessary, imo
11. 02:11:996 (1,2) - not good flow. how about blanketting?
    
    SPOILER

    
12. 02:53:883 (2) - NC
13. 03:07:468 (4,5) - check DS
14. 03:31:241 (2,3) - ^
15. 03:32:656 (3) - NC?
16. 03:33:506 (4) - ^

1. 00:08:317 (3,4,1,2,3) - you can make more symmetrically
   
   SPOILER

   
   

   452,228,8317,2,0,L|363:146,1,120
   264,212,8883,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   163,147,9166,5,0,0:0:0:0:
   204,34,9449,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   324,34,9732,1,4,0:0:0:0:

2. 00:10:015~00:26:713- too long break for hard, imo (insane is also)
3. 01:22:185 (1,2) - not good flow and confusing pattern
4. 02:07:468 (2) - NC?
5. 02:13:600 (4) - move dawnward for good flow
6. 02:14:260 (6,7) - make more symmetrically
7. 02:16:524 (1,1,1,1) - NC rush is unnecessary
8. 02:18:789 (2) - NC
9. 02:41:430 (1,2) - I prefer symmetric slider
10. 02:53:883 (3) - NC
11. 03:25:581 (3) - ^
12. 03:27:845 (7) - ^
13. 03:34:638 (4) - suggetion~
    

1. too many SV changing...
2. 00:43:317- add a note
3. 00:52:373 (11) - NC
4. 01:01:807 (10) - ^
5. 01:07:468 (5,6) - combine into 1 slider in the same way as 01:06:053 (1) -
6. 01:41:902 (6,9) - stack correctly
7. 02:13:411 (2,3) - too big jup, imo
8. 02:24:921 (3) - end at 02:25:298
9. 03:03:506 (3,4) - make symmetrically
10. 03:10:581 (5) - I prefer the symmetric angular slider as 03:10:298 (4) -

RandomEffect wrote:

From my queue~

[General]

1. Artist: ひとしずく×やま△
   Romanised artist: Hitoshizuku x Yamasankakke-
2. title: Party×Party
   (space is unnecessary)
3. tags suggetion:
   vocaloid
4. according to beatmap page, this map set is incomplete? if so, you should submit to WIP not pending

about metadata, please prioritize JMQ stuff's suggetion over mine
[Novice Party]

1. 00:40:298 (4) - I prefer the slider decorated with several points. revrse slider is confusing I'll try to fmake something.
2. 00:41:430 (1) - you should use 1/4 rhythm in the same way as others Okay~
3. 00:42:562 (3) - ^Okay~
4. 01:55:015 (2) - ^Okay~
5. 02:36:902 (1) - ^Okay~
6. 00:56:147 (2) - out of playfield unranked!! Didn't notice that wow. Fixed.
7. 01:04:072 (1,1) - avoid overlapping It should be fine. I'll wait for another person to point it out.
8. 01:06:336 (1,1) - ^ ^. But it blankets so well. :/
9. 01:22:185 (1,2) - make symmetrically Fixed... I guess?
10. 01:44:826 (1,1,1,1) - NC rush is unnecessary, imo Fixed~
11. 02:11:996 (1,2) - not good flow. how about blanketting?Okay~
    
    SPOILER

    
12. 02:53:883 (2) - NCOops.
13. 03:07:468 (4,5) - check DS Okay~
14. 03:31:241 (2,3) - ^ Okay~
15. 03:32:656 (3) - NC? Okay~
16. 03:33:506 (4) - ^ Okay~

[Advanced Party]

1. 00:08:317 (3,4,1,2,3) - you can make more symmetrically Fixed~
   
   SPOILER

   
   

   452,228,8317,2,0,L|363:146,1,120
   264,212,8883,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   163,147,9166,5,0,0:0:0:0:
   204,34,9449,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   324,34,9732,1,4,0:0:0:0:

2. 00:10:015~00:26:713- too long break for hard, imo (insane is also) Possibly, but I can't find a good point to get back in inbetween. I'm sure the long pause is fine.
3. 01:22:185 (1,2) - not good flow and confusing pattern Fixed~
4. 02:07:468 (2) - NC? How could I for get these...
5. 02:13:600 (4) - move dawnward for good flow Did something different.
6. 02:14:260 (6,7) - make more symmetrically Kind of fixed?
7. 02:16:524 (1,1,1,1) - NC rush is unnecessary Fixed~
8. 02:18:789 (2) - NC Fixed~
9. 02:41:430 (1,2) - I prefer symmetric sliderSlider's are point-symmetrical to center, should be fine.
10. 02:53:883 (3) - N Fixed~C
11. 03:25:581 (3) - ^ Fixed~
12. 03:27:845 (7) - ^ Fixed~
13. 03:34:638 (4) - suggetion~
    [img]http://puu.sh/bnRUN/8045e7cc61.jpg[/img Prefer the current one.]

[Ultimate Party]

1. too many SV changing... I like them to make this map more interesting :/ Maybe I'll change some if someone points them out again.
2. 00:43:317- add a note
3. 00:52:373 (11) - NC Done.. :c
4. 01:01:807 (10) - ^ Done.. :c
5. 01:07:468 (5,6) - combine into 1 slider in the same way as 01:06:053 (1) - Fixed~
6. 01:41:902 (6,9) - stack correctly Fixed~
7. 02:13:411 (2,3) - too big jup, imo Fixed~
8. 02:24:921 (3) - end at 02:25:298 Fixed~
9. 03:03:506 (3,4) - make symmetricallyFixed, but in a different way.
10. 03:10:581 (5) - I prefer the symmetric angular slider as 03:10:298 (4) - Fixed~

~Good Luck~ Thanks for the mod! ^_^

gorgonzoler wrote:

from soga‘s queue
my mod just advise.

novice party

00:34:638 (3) - move the red dot to the slider tick.it can perform the beat better. Sure.
01:58:694 - is that your unfinish part??? if don't.Then fill the breaktime will better(i think) Breaks are intended for the newer players.
03:24:449 (3,4) - is that reeeeeeeally allow this kind of slider appear in this diff? ignore it if is yes. Might be really confusing, yes. I try something out.

advanced party

01:58:506 - same as easy，i think you should map here too.the rest breaktime is not need to fill Hmm, I'll think about it.
okay. i don't find any problem here

ultmate party

00:04:638 (1,1) - i know the auto can spin for 1000 bonus.But consider the spinner more longer and sooner(forgive my bad english) Okay, I made them a bit longer.
00:07:185 (1) - This spinner should be placed like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2010226In order to let the game player to reflect. It would end in at a weird beat for me, but I rearranged the start a bit to make it play more comfortable.
02:57:468 (2,4,6) - i know this part is great. but consider delete them to make a unique beat,and make left hand more relax. Won't work for me, I like to keep pressure constant here. Also, I'd miss some voice notes.
03:24:449 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i will exchange something else if i were you. I'd rather not. Can't really see a reason to remove this, it goes perfectly with the rhythm.

i don't usually mod this kind of song.
amazing map! i should learn some skill from your map Thanks for compliment, but I don't usually map that kind of songs either. More like a fun map to me.
also this is not a good mod. the secound try of modding this kind of song(usually play insturmental map) No problem, any modder has to start somewhere. You had some good points already. Thanks for the mod!

Gray Veyron wrote:

Hi, paseli! Sorry for a late mod ;_;

Almost a crap map to make a big mod like this one, but the Insane diffs saved you from breaking my rules... So... Here's my mod. I've never been a great mapper at easier diffs. ;-;

[> General <]

1. - Do you actually need the word "Party" on the diff names? Just asking ._. It fits so well to the name of the song If it's going to become a serious problem, I'll rename them.
2. - I recommend your Background should be 1366x768, since you're using it as widescreen. I'll try to find someone who can fix this.
3. - I think the offset should be 670. If you do, resnap.

[> Novice Party <]
I'll rework the whole diff. Give me a few days for rework.

1. 00:07:468 (1,2,1,2) - How about making a Square or a Diamond formation here?
2. 00:32:373 (1,2,3) - The spacing differed here, were you using 0.8x and 1.0x near the same time?
3. 00:42:562 (2,3) - Blanketing here would be nice.
4. 00:43:694 (3,4) - You might want to curve these two sliders for a better flowing > http://puu.sh/byBZm/249fdb6b2e.png
5. 00:49:355 (1) - Remove NC? new track, but it's too much for the draining hp.
6. 00:52:751 (3,4) - Same as 00:43:694 (3,4) -, Also, check the spacing.
7. 00:54:449 (1) - Same as 00:49:355 (1) -
8. 00:58:411 (1) - ^
9. 01:08:600 (1,2) - A little less curving for a blanket here on circle (2).
10. 01:17:656 (1,2) - Good Symmetric, you've used 1.0x spacing 'til it differed here.
11. 01:19:921 (1,2,1) - Make a triangle here by moving the second slider (1) to x:216|y:208.
12. 01:40:298 (1,2) - The flow broke much here, Why not try the way you did before on 00:45:958 (1,2) -?
13. 01:56:147 (2,3) - Try making a parallel with the half of slider (2) and slider (3)?
14. 02:07:468 (1) - I don't feel the rhythm is right here, so i suggest this > http://puu.sh/byCHQ/4b13a68a2e.png
15. 02:09:732 (1) - ^, Why? it needs to be clickable for players with the vocals on the song track.
16. 02:16:524 (1,2) - Same as 00:43:694 (3,4) -
17. 02:19:921 (6) - Curve like the way you did on the previous sliders, the flow would be ongoing.
18. 02:27:845 (1,1,1) - Weird NC you did here, i know you're trying to make it with the video, but too much hp draining would be not-so great... pattern is nice btw.
19. 02:33:506 (3,1) - Blanket?
20. 02:41:430 (1) - Fine, but i prefer remaking this slider as a three beat slider like here 02:43:128 (3) - .
21. 02:58:411 (1,3) - Two choice for this ... 1st- Curve slider (1) like slider (3), it will perform an S formation. / 2nd- Uncurve Slider (3) like slider (1), it will, too, perform a Parallel.
22. 03:18:789 (1,2) - Same as 00:43:694 (3,4) -
23. 03:24:449 (1) - A bit more curve on the quarter of slider's tail, so it would be a symmetric slider > http://puu.sh/byDwX/7e7f55fb8c.png
24. 03:26:147 (1,2,3,1) - You should've made a diamond formation here... If you move slider (1) to x:340|y:192 or near to that. Don't worry, it'll still blanket circle (3).
25. - I've seen some unused inherited points in this diff, but I spotted them out for you > 00:31:454 - / 00:31:807 - / 00:32:090 - / 00:34:213 - / 01:02:656 - / 01:05:958 - / 01:06:053 - / 01:31:241 - / 01:35:770 - / 01:38:034 - / 01:38:883 - / 01:39:355 - / 01:58:694 - / 01:58:977 - / 02:01:807 - / 02:02:656 - / 02:02:939 - / 02:06:312 - / 02:06:902 - / 02:16:241 - / 02:20:770 - / 02:25:581 -(two at the same time, delete one) / 03:02:656 -, And that's it.
26. - Overall, good diff, but it needs some rhythms fixes.. so.... Nice job.

[> Advanced Party <]
I'll rework the whole diff. Give me a few days for rework.

1. 00:07:185 (1,2) - Stack slider tails perfectly.
2. 00:08:883 (1,2,3,4) - Make a diamond formation here.
3. 00:30:109 (1) - This slider broke a symmetry here, It's okay if the slider's position is horizoned from slider 00:27:845 (1) - , Flow is still the same as you did, my suggestion > http://puu.sh/byESY/453f92901e.png
4. 00:30:534 (2,3) - Also, make blanket when you did ^
5. 00:32:373 (1,3) - Stack slider (1)'s tail perfectly, also recorrect the blanket with circle (2).
6. 00:39:590 (2,3) - Almost overlapped with slider (2), try splitting them a bit further, but watch the spacing.
7. 00:41:147 (1,2) - Swap NC, new track.
8. 00:43:411 (1,2) - ^
9. 00:43:694 (2,3) - Check your spacing here.
10. 00:45:675 (1,2) - Same as 00:41:147 (1,2) -
11. 00:46:430 (3,4,5) - Same as 00:43:694 (2,3) -
12. 00:47:939 (1,2) - Same as 00:41:147 (1,2) -
13. 00:49:355 (1,1,2) - Same as 00:43:694 (2,3) -
14. 00:50:204 (1,2) - Same as 00:41:147 (1,2) -..
15. 00:50:487 (2,3,4,5,6) - Make a symmetry here.
16. 00:52:468 (1,2) - Same as 00:41:147 (1,2) -....
17. 00:54:166 (1) - Remove NC, still on the same track.
18. 00:54:732 (1,2) - Same as 00:41:147 (1,2) -.......
19. 00:56:996 (1,2) - ^
20. 00:59:260 (1,2) - ^
21. 01:01:147 (6,1,2) - Spacing...
22. 01:01:524 (1,2) - Same as 00:41:147 (1,2) -................... This'll also go to another NCs you made(to avoid confusion).
23. 01:04:072 (2) - Curve this slider for a smoother flow.
24. 01:05:204 (4,1,2) - Spacing...
25. 01:15:392 (1,3) - Is this overlap on purpose? if not, split for a triangle formation or stack.
26. 01:22:185 (1) - Same as 01:04:072 (2) -
27. 01:23:317 (3,1) - Same as 00:32:373 (1,3) -
28. 01:40:015 (1,5) - Just stack and that's... NAZI
29. 01:51:619 (5) - Unsharp and curve like the next slider, smotther flow ofc.
30. 01:56:147 (1,2,3) - Make a Cycle formation here? It would look much like a triangle formation, just give it a try.
31. 02:15:392 (1,2) - Where did these two ugly sliders come from? :c
32. 02:32:373 (1,2,3,1) - Symmetry? doesn't look much as it is.
33. 02:57:279 (3,4,5,6) - ^
34. 03:04:072 (3,4,5,6) - Make a diamond formation here.
35. 03:05:204 (1,2) - I think stacking here is not a good idea, players would think it's a 1/2 beat slider and would have a high chance for a combo break, Split them.
36. 03:14:543 (1) - Add finish, a strong percussion on the song track.
37. 03:22:185 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Much like an overlap, Try making a Polygon or a Hexagon formation.
38. - Good, but not amazed with your spacing patterns, so just fix those. And be careful with the "Same as" NCs >_< Also, some unused inherited points, find it yourself! I'll lower SV and general DS a bit to make it play more like a normal map.

[> Ultimate Party <]

1. - Just some nazi suggestions due it looks overmapped to me, but not very much with those cool patterns G_G :3 Might be a bit slider-heavy, so I'll try to fix that too.
2. 00:08:600 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Remove few NCs here, too much for the draining hp. Fixed ~
3. 00:45:675 (1,2) - Recorrect your blanket here. Done.
4. 01:01:807 (3,4,5) - Almost a triangle formation, and a bit more curve on slider (4). Fixed~
5. 01:12:845 (2) - Stack slider tails perfectly. Fixed~
6. 01:45:298 (1,1) - ^ Fixed~
7. 01:47:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Recorrect your Hexagon formation here. Fixed, also balanced the DS.
8. 02:14:543 (2,4) - Same as 01:12:845 (2) - Fixed~
9. - Nothing much on other parts i didn't mention, Really good d(u_ud) :3

Expert Party is good too. Anyway, I can see your mapping on Easy/Normal diffs not greatly mapped. But i'm sure you'll improve it someday :3/ Gonna try to improve it as best as I can since good =/= high-qual. . Many thanks for the thorough mod! Feel free to hit me again for that Mamacita map if you need a mod for it.
Good Luck!

1. Include vocaloid to tags
2. Combo colours 2 and 5 should be slightly darker.
3. (Optional) Remove "Party" in all difficulty names. It's redundant.
   
   
4. I've noticed the types of sliders used felt random throughout your diffs. It's very noticeable especially in the easier diffs. There are a bunch of bezier, linear, and in-betweens everywhere, creating an inconsistent style that hurt the overall quality of the map. I won't mention them, but I recommend going over your diffs and adjust the sliders to be more consistent with the style you're trying to achieve.
   
   
   1. 00:09:873 - Nearly 10 seconds into the map and there's a break already? It doesn't help when it's the longest break of them all. It hurts pacing. Personally, I would map the break in all difficulties.

• Edit: You said you will rework this diff, making this mod void. My points still stand.

1. This is by far the messiest diff of them all. Please add polish to it.
2. I highly recommend spacing should be consistent throughout the diff. Majority of beginner players do not have the experience to recognize or adjust their spacing accordingly, especially when it's minor. You should go over the diff with 1.0x distance spacing.
   
   
   1. 00:06:336 (1) - Remove combo?
   2. 00:30:109 (3) - Slider suppose to be symmetric to (1)?
   3. 00:34:072 (2) - Spacing
   4. 00:50:487 (1,2,3,4) - ^
   5. 01:18:789 (2) - Slider suppose to be symmetric to (1)?
   6. 01:47:090 (1) - This type of slider is highly discouraged in easy diffs. Keep it simple. A long slider should do the trick.
   7. 01:58:034 - I highly recommend mapping this break. Newer players or not, they should not be crippled and should be consistent from the harder diffs. If newer players don't have the stamina to play it, this map is not for them.
   8. 02:07:468 (1) - It's jarring when all repeating sliders before this one repeat once only. It may be fine on harder diffs, but not this one. Please shorten them and keep them consistent.
   9. 02:09:732 (1) - ^
   10. 02:41:430 (1) - ^
   11. 02:43:883 - Again, I highly recommend mapping this break.

• Edit: You said you will rework this diff, making this mod void. My points still stand.

1. Note: Because of the diff name and difficulty, I'm assuming this is a normal difficulty.
   
   
2. This diff is messy too, but not as bad as Novice. Please polish this diff.
3. Again, I highly recommend spacing should be consistent throughout the diff. I've notice some spots fluctuates between 0.9, 1.0, and 1.2 distance spacing. Choose a value and use it throughout the diff.
   
   
   1. 00:33:506 (3) - I highly recommend slider ends should be visible at all times. This is okay in harder diffs, but not this one.
   2. 01:22:185 (1) - This slider should be moved slightly to the right.
   3. 01:58:034 - Like I said in the Novice Party diff, I recommend mapping this break.
   4. 02:11:996 (1) - Spacing
   5. 02:16:524 (1,2) - ^
   6. 03:21:053 - The distance spacing values go back to 1.0. It hurts pacing since it was 1.2 before.

1. 01:28:694 (2) - Move this slider away from (1). Having it under (1) disrupts the pacing a bit.

1. For an insane(?) diff, this is easier than I thought. Maybe it's me, but consider adding jumps? Some parts of the song are perfect for them.
2. I noticed this diff does a lot of "speed boosts" to emphasize parts of the song, but there are too many of them. I recommend you to cut back on them. They should be only used on special occasions.
   
   
   1. 00:06:760 (1) - Why is this spinner shorter than in the Expert Party diff? Either extend it like the Expert diff, or the Expert diff should be shorten.
   2. 00:34:638 (1,2,3,4) - Either I suck or the speed-up is too sudden. If you're going to keep this one, the speed-up should be more gradual. Consider this to all other speed-ups.

Darcsol wrote:

M4M Request

Hey, sry for the late reply. <.<

[General]

1. Include vocaloid to tags Done~
2. Combo colours 2 and 5 should be slightly darker. Why noone likes brighter CC? ;-; I don't think it blends too much, but if I get more mods with the same issue, I'll fix.
3. (Optional) Remove "Party" in all difficulty names. It's redundant.Again, I'll wait for more mods on this issue.
   
   
4. I've noticed the types of sliders used felt random throughout your diffs. It's very noticeable especially in the easier diffs. There are a bunch of bezier, linear, and in-betweens everywhere, creating an inconsistent style that hurt the overall quality of the map. I won't mention them, but I recommend going over your diffs and adjust the sliders to be more consistent with the style you're trying to achieve. Yeah, I was goofing off a bit with the sliders trying to create some variety this way. Reduced it alot and focused on curved/1-anchored sliders.
   
   
   1. 00:09:873 - Nearly 10 seconds into the map and there's a break already? It doesn't help when it's the longest break of them all. It hurts pacing. Personally, I would map the break in all difficulties. I personally don't think it hurts map gameplay. I got the feeling that the transition from the instrumental part to the vocals may be not so good - just a feeling :s. If it's going to be a serious issue in the future, I'll try to find a solution.

[Novice Party]

• Edit: You said you will rework this diff, making this mod void. My points still stand. Only a partial rework Fixed rhythm & consistent spacing issue mainly and also some difficult patterns. I just comment on things i haven't fixed during the rework.

1. This is by far the messiest diff of them all. Please add polish to it.
2. I highly recommend spacing should be consistent throughout the diff. Majority of beginner players do not have the experience to recognize or adjust their spacing accordingly, especially when it's minor. You should go over the diff with 1.0x distance spacing.
   
   
   1. 00:06:336 (1) - Remove combo?
   2. 00:30:109 (3) - Slider suppose to be symmetric to (1)? oops lol.
   3. 00:34:072 (2) - Spacing
   4. 00:50:487 (1,2,3,4) - ^
   5. 01:18:789 (2) - Slider suppose to be symmetric to (1)?
   6. 01:47:090 (1) - This type of slider is highly discouraged in easy diffs. Keep it simple. A long slider should do the trick.
   7. 01:58:034 - I highly recommend mapping this break. Newer players or not, they should not be crippled and should be consistent from the harder diffs. If newer players don't have the stamina to play it, this map is not for them.
   8. 02:07:468 (1) - It's jarring when all repeating sliders before this one repeat once only. It may be fine on harder diffs, but not this one. Please shorten them and keep them consistent.
   9. 02:09:732 (1) - ^
   10. 02:41:430 (1) - ^
   11. 02:43:883 - Again, I highly recommend mapping this break.

[Advanced Party]

• Edit: You said you will rework this diff, making this mod void. My points still stand.This is probably going to be changed to a GD. Sry :c But still thanks for putting effort in here.

1. Note: Because of the diff name and difficulty, I'm assuming this is a normal difficulty.
   
   
2. This diff is messy too, but not as bad as Novice. Please polish this diff.
3. Again, I highly recommend spacing should be consistent throughout the diff. I've notice some spots fluctuates between 0.9, 1.0, and 1.2 distance spacing. Choose a value and use it throughout the diff.
   
   
   1. 00:33:506 (3) - I highly recommend slider ends should be visible at all times. This is okay in harder diffs, but not this one.
   2. 01:22:185 (1) - This slider should be moved slightly to the right.
   3. 01:58:034 - Like I said in the Novice Party diff, I recommend mapping this break.
   4. 02:11:996 (1) - Spacing
   5. 02:16:524 (1,2) - ^
   6. 03:21:053 - The distance spacing values go back to 1.0. It hurts pacing since it was 1.2 before.

[Expert Party]

1. 01:28:694 (2) - Move this slider away from (1). Having it under (1) disrupts the pacing a bit. This would cause inconsistency since i always go double stack with these circle-sliders. After all, I did the same in the other kiai times as well.

[Ultimate Party]

1. For an insane(?) diff, this is easier than I thought. Maybe it's me, but consider adding jumps? Some parts of the song are perfect for them. The difficulty of the map is appropriate imo, I don't think more jumps would make it better, but let's wait for more modders who can share their opinions on this.
2. I noticed this diff does a lot of "speed boosts" to emphasize parts of the song, but there are too many of them. I recommend you to cut back on them. They should be only used on special occasions. I reduced the number of them already.
   
   
   1. 00:06:760 (1) - Why is this spinner shorter than in the Expert Party diff? Either extend it like the Expert diff, or the Expert diff should be shorten. Oh, looks like I fixed that already.
   2. 00:34:638 (1,2,3,4) - Either I suck or the speed-up is too sudden. If you're going to keep this one, the speed-up should be more gradual. Consider this to all other speed-ups. It is gradual, haven't you checked the timing sections here?

Overall, it's a fun map. Everything is in place, but it needs to be polished. Clean places up like the sliders and it'll be great. Thanks for the mod! ^_^ Also for the star that you didn't mentioned here <3

Happy mapping

neonat wrote:

Oh a Party x Party map. I plan to actually map this in the future (bought the album), but hey, the more beatmaps, the better. Sure The song offers quite a bit, might be interesting to see how you'd map it.

General

I don't think ニコニコ超パーティーⅢ is a valid Source. In fact, I don't think this song should have a Source, as like most Vocaloid songs other than those related to games, etc. This one isn't, that I am very sure of it.
Feel free to add Polkadodge to the tags, it's the album this song is from. TSO and VAVA made the video too I let a JMQ member look through the metadata stuff, and the song actually is a theme song for theNicoNico Cho-Party 3 - the source should be correct. I'll add the tags to the metadata

00:09:726 - 00:26:707 - wow. This part is so beautiful, yet it's not mapped at all. This is really waste of the song and should be mapped, there is a lot of potential in this part Okay, that's like the 10th complain I get about this already.

Novice Party

00:05:198 (1,2,1) - spacing distance inconsistent here Shouldn't use Grid snap for this stuff ever again -.- Fixed
01:31:235 - shift the break line here I'd like to hear the reason for this as it doesn't make too much of a difference to me.
01:53:594 (3,1,2) - space evenly between each other to look nicer Tried
01:58:405 (1) - either way it overlaps 01:56:141 (1) - but at least then make 01:56:990 (2,3,1) space evenly between each other for better presentation Not sure if I understood you right, but I repositioned the objects a bit to avoid the 'overlap' (i didn't notice that for some reason). It should be spaced evenly already.
02:34:632 (1,2) - straight line This is more of a personal preference, but i like the to pu an anchor in the slider, feels better to play.
03:34:632 (3) - end the slider at 03:35:056 and add a finish to the end Sounds good, but I added a clap HS instead to make it synergize better

Honestly, can't really change much of the rhythm because of the simplistic nature of the difficulty, being the easiest difficulty, but I feel a lot can be done for presentation, how it looks, to make it look more decent. More of linking of the different patterns together, rather than focusing too much on each individual pattern. For example, looking at 02:24:443 (6,1) - it looks like the apttern 02:23:311 (4,5,6) has no relation to what's coming next 02:25:575 (1,2) and they are just placed there because of distance spacing. This is because 02:25:575 (1) is placed on the side of 02:24:443 (6) which the direction of play is not moving to, as it's direction is to the left and top, which 02:25:575 (1) is not moving to, and is instead going to the top right corner. It's thinks like this that make the map look less attached to each other, even if the rhythms are fine. I hope you can do something about all that I noticed that some patterns don't complement each other too well already. I think i might make some changes to a few of them then c:

I peeked at the other difficulties, honestly, these lower difficulties are the ones that need the most attention and work right now. (we can always look at the rest in the future) The rest do have work needed to be done but I want to focus on these lower ones, which really look like they need a lot of refurbishing (especially normal, which looks like it needs a full remap).

I could come back to this song again in the future months, that is if you ever want again (I'm just a pm away). As long as I hope that in the future the lower difficulties would look much better and I won't spend so much time again on them that the other difficulties take a backseat once again because I feel the easier difficulties need the most attention again.

Good Luck.

zlaskus wrote:

Well, sorry, my first mapping...
Novice party.
Absolutlely perfect.
Advanced party.
03:32:933 - you can add 1 Circle on X:192 Y:176 Why? There is no beat nor sound to support the music here.
Expert party.
00:53:877 - that Circle will be better put to X:165 Y:250 I like the jump in here, support the vocal better.
Ultimate party.
Slider from 00:20:386 to 00:20:669 - I think need to be more close to 5th Circle on 00:20:198 Jump is here to put better emphasis to the trumpet. Small note: just copypaste the slider position next time, that sufficeds already.
Slider from 00:45:952 to 00:46:235 - I think need to be more close to 1rst Slider from 00:45:669 to 00:45:858 Again, mini jump for better emphasis on the drum cash and also because a new 'section' of the music starts here.
Slider from 02:26:707 to 02:27:556 - Hard to understand where to move mouse Actually no, it's clearly readable and you can infer how and in which direction the slider will flow.

Well, thanks for the mod... although I didn't change a thing lol.
P.S. Can you mod my map, please :3 (p/3431957/)

appleeaterx wrote:

M4M

:idea: General

* IMO The hitsounds in all diffs are a little bit unbalanced. There's 100% in almost every part of the song, while it's quite clear that 00:05:198 is softer than KIAI.
* Add more breaks in all the diffs. The Novice diff for example has only 1 break, it may be long, but a newb wouldn't be able to play 3 KIAIs straight without a break. Same goes for the Advanced and Expert diff. The Ultimate diff is fine though. That would cause inconsistency between all diffs and i'd leave to many important section out if I add breaks. No change, I'm sure newbies are fine with the easiest diff as the break also is after the 1st kiai time.
* I'm assuming the spread is E+/N+/H+/I
* I'd either use Slider Tick 1 in all diffs, or 2 in all diffs. Now, you have 500 combo in the Novice diff, and a sudden jump to 1000 in the Advanced? Little too much. How did this happen lol.

:arrow: Testplay

* Novice (+DT,HR) - Score ~ Replay
* Advanced (+NC) - Score ~ Replay
* Expert - Score ~ Replay
* Ultimate - Score ~ Replay

Novice Party

* I'm not really sure is this a Normal or an Easy diff. The rhythm seems to fit a normal diff, but the overall diff settings and DS feel more like an Easy - so sorry if I misunderstood anything in my mod! I will adjust the diff settings a bit to make it mroe obvious.
* 00:44:254 (4) - On the slider end the clap seems to be quite loud and overpowering. I'd either lower the volume, or switch over to a soft/drum whistle. I applied the timing sections, so this isn't as loud as t was anymore.
* 00:11:990 (1) - There are two things with this slider. First, it's a sudden jump to 1.3/1.4x DS - I'd keep DS here, and second, the slider is touching the HP bar. Not a huge deal, but if would be nice if you'd fix it. This rule is killing my maps because I map so spacious >< Fixed.
* 00:59:537 (1) - If you listen very close, you can hear a finish-like sound. I'd add a timing section with a volume of around 70% and add a finish. [color=#408000Not only here, but also in previous parts of this section. I wasn't sure if to put finish HS in or not. Guess I will do it then. Applied to all diffs[/color]
* 01:02:933 (5) - The hitsound volume here is a little bit too loud imo. You should be able to hear the music, but the hitsound volume is just too much. I'd lower the volume with ~20% Fixed with timing sections~
* 01:04:066 (1) - I'd move the slider a grid up to avoid the "almost" overlap. Fixed~
* 01:40:292 (1) - It'd be more logical if this was directly on the y-axis to me.To me as well. Done.~
* 01:42:556 (3,4) - Is this supposed to be a blanket? You can fix this ^^ Nope, not supposed to be one.
* 02:50:481 (1,2,3,4) - This square is not perfect, you can use the code below if you want. Fixed~

If you use this code, please don't forget to NC (4)

164,220,170481,1,0,0:0:0:0:
293,314,171047,1,0,0:0:0:0:
387,184,171613,1,0,0:0:0:0:
258,90,172179,1,0,0:0:0:0:

* 03:21:047 (1) - Every part after this is way too loud imo. The drum sampleset is already louder than usual, so I'd lower it with ~20% Is it really too loud? It's the strongest and most aggressive part in the music, so I put on max volume for a reason. I probably will change it if more people will complain about it.

More hitsounds issues, but overall should be ok!

Advanced Party

* 00:15:386 (4) - I don't recommend having multiple repeats on a slider in a somewhat 'easier' diff. No reason why not. 2x repeat sliders got quite rare while they are actually fun to play and also readable. The spacing here should also justify this.
* 00:30:575 (2) - This slider starts on a 1/3 tick, which is fine if you follow the vocal. But both (1) and (3) make it seem that this combo is following the instruments rather than the vocals. I'd just make it a 1/2 slider. just like 00:34:632 (1,2) - ? Shortened 00:28:971 (4) - by 1/3 to make it more consistent that i'm really following the vocal.
* 00:52:462 (1,2) - I could be wrong, but should the NC start on (2) because of the downbeat? I'm being consistent here to the higher diffs, which started NC here as well.
* 01:15:952 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - Would this be much better for the circular flow you have here?

True. Fixed~
* 01:21:896 (1,2) - The NC should be on (2) - there's a cymbal sound in the music it' on the downbeat. 1 starts at a downbeat too, additionally on the dominant one
* 01:25:575 (3) - Again, this - but after looking more in your diff, it seems that this your special rhythm or something, so I wont list it anymore. It'd still be nice if you could add something like you did at 02:08:594 (3,4,5,6) - That's actually the issue here. I need some variation to these quadruple circles as there would be just too many of them in this map, making it play quite monotonous and boring. 2x repeat sliders do their part to that by adding some 'back and forth' motion which is also playable by newer players.
* 01:40:009 (1,5) - Stack the slider end and (1) Noticed the DS issues here and fixed them as well.
* 02:20:481 (5,1) - This blanket could be better. Fixed somehow~

* 02:26:707 (1) - Maybe it's just me, but I can't hear anything on the repeat (red tick). Me neither, I think I just did that for variation (which goes totally against the music i just noticed lol).
I'd just use a 1/2 and a single note (if you still want to follow the vocals)

* 02:27:839 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This looks nice and all, especially with the video, but this rhythm just suddenly pops out with a very high DS which might turn some people off. I really recommend redoing this pattern. If you want to keep this rhythm, but also want it to follow the hands in the video, try this (should be more or less DSnapped, but check and adjust to your own likings :3): I forgot to fix the DS here lol... Okay, done, but my own way.

200,104,147839,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,148122,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,264,148405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,252,148688,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,156,148971,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,80,149254,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,172,149537,2,0,L|236:268,1,100
136,292,150103,38,0,P|72:232|71:158,2,150,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

* 03:00:386 (4,3) - Stack these? Not intended.
* 03:10:858 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing here is a bit weird, but it's fine considering it's the chorus. I rearranged most stuff after this because DS.
* 03:15:386 (3) - I told you I wouldn't mention it anymore, but a pattern like this would really fit here. You used symmetry in the sliders, so why not add some symmetrical notes? I just make the repeat slider more symmetric, should be fine now.

DS 1.0

DS 1.2

* 03:24:443 (1,2) - If you consider this a Normal+ like I do, I'd remove these. - But if it's more like a Hard-, feel free to keep it! Gonna replace them with easy sliders then.
* 03:33:500 (3) - Should be a NC here. NC on 2 instead, like on the other diffs

Some pattern and rhythm flaws, but nicely in-between a Normal and Hard diff!

Expert Party

* 00:33:500 (6) - I see what you are trying to do with this slider, but very nazi here. Try putting your playback rate and stop exactly where the noise stars, and move the red point a little closer. Okay

* 00:37:179 (4) - This slider doesn't really fit imo. (1,2,3) are following the vocals, but in the same combo you start to follow something else. I'm following the trumpet You might not have notice it since it plays with the same beats like the vocal.
* 00:45:952 (3) - NC should start here, there's a finish and the downbeat lands here. There are more of the NCs in all the diffs, so keep an eye on the places where you used the finish hitsound. NC's go with the start of every new vocal lead, that's why the NC is somewhat unique here (or just plain stupid? i dunno, lol). Let's see how much I'll get grounded for this by the BATs.
* 00:48:217 (10) - Again, I could be wrong, but I'd NC these, there's a change in the tone of the vocals. Fixed it a bit different.
* 00:53:877 (6,1) - Maybe it's a mistake, but this manual stack doesn't look good in the editor, and it doesn't look that great in Test Mode either. I'd stack them perfectly, or just use grid snap and put it one or two grids further away. Mistake.~
* 01:01:801 (3) - Hmm.. I'd switch (4) and (5) and CTRL+G them, for a smoother flow. I think it's smooth already. ctrl+g would destroy the spacing & correcting it would make this pattern too clutched for me. I liked the drawing tho :3

If you decide to do this, make sure to stack 01:02:367 (3,7)
* 01:31:235 - YOU CAN DEFINITELY IGNORE THIS. Why not add a note here? May I know why? That is a whole different section of the music which I left out on purpose.
* 02:06:801 (6,7) - Stack these perfectly. You might not see it in the editor, but look while testing it. You might not know this, but there is no perfect stacking whilie playing, the objects are always slightly offset by 4|4 pixelsfor the sake of readability. See p/3348553
* 02:26:707 (4) - [/color]
* 02:27:839 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - NC is not needed imo. Feel free to ignore this, but if more people tell you this, remove them. (would actually be more logical if you removed the NCs, since the lyrics go like "one, two, three" and not "one, one, one") Is just reasonable, I hope noone notices this anymore, it fits so well to the vocals.
* 02:31:801 (7) - Touches HP bar. I hate that rule -.-
* 02:49:349 (4) - Blanket with (2)? Not really intended anymore.
* 02:57:273 (5) - The distance changes here. Why? If it's only because of the high note, I'd add a NC combo to indicate this, like 03:01:801 (1,2) - Oh lol, I need to fix that NC issues soon.
* 03:11:424 (3) - With this slider, it's best if you chech the symmetry with CTRL+G. Checked~ No issue found ~
* 03:18:122 (8,9,1,2) - Very sloppy blanket, or maybe on purpose? Don't see a reason why though... Fixed~

Needs a little more patches, and it's ready to go!

Ultimate Party

* 00:04:490 (1,1) - These spinners (same with Expert Party) actually would sound better if you shortened them by 1/3 tick. True. Fixed~
* 00:11:424 (3) - Move this a little bit more to the right to stack perfectly with 00:12:556 (5) - I didn't intend that. It isn't even noticeable during play.
* 00:15:952 - I think I know what you wanted to do with (3), but I'd add a note here for consistency. The rhythm is just repeating 1/3 doubles in this combo. Not sure about that, I like the variation here.
* 00:28:311 (3) - Maybe a slider like this to match the small distortion in the music and for variety of sliders in the combo? I stick with the current idea.

* 00:39:632 (10) - Add a NC here, SV change. Missed that dayum
* 01:02:933 (1,2,3,4,5) - I personally don't here a double in the music, but if you want to do this, I recommend using 1/6 kicksliders here. They are pout for better emphasis on the instruments here. That version of yours is not recommended, as these (ofbeat) sliders end on hard beats, the one's that are supposed to be clickable.

* 01:08:311 (1,2) - How about moving (2) to the center, so that (2) is stacked with (3). Then replace and tweak (1) a little bit to be a blanket with (2) and (3) Hmm, neat idea~

* 01:10:858 (1) - ^ Same with stacking, if you decide to do this, move the previous slider a little more to the right to keep the flow. I don't stack circles that are so far away from each other in the timeline. I mean it's not like they are overlapping anyway.
* 01:24:443 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is almost like a star formation, I think you just need to replace (1) a little to make it perfect. Eh, that isn't supposed to be a star pattern after all. The place where it is is fine, I just wanted to have a nice zig-zag flow here.
* 01:30:575 (3) - For this slider shape, I'd just tweak it a little. But that's just my person preference. I think it's already fine as it is.

* 01:39:443 (10) - NC, SV change.
* 01:45:669 (2) - Place this note on the red slider tick of (this beautiful o3o/) slider 01:46:518 (1) - Umm... sure, why not lol.

* 02:26:707 (5) - Again, check your symmetry with these kind of sliders with CTRL-G. Fixed~
You can already see that the two red slider points in the middle are not symmetrical and the right one should be moved 1 grid to the left. Check all the other points as well.
* 02:38:594 (7) - ^ Tried
* 02:45:952 (2,5) - Stack these? Done~
* 02:50:481 (1,2,3,4,1) - Could be improved. Seems like mostly the red (1) is wrongly placed. Not every star-like shape must be a perfect star pattern. I think it's fine, it is symmetrical.
* 03:21:330 (2) - Put it straight on the y-axis? Drunken slider lol. Fixed~

This diff played fine, but I see you have a little problem with making sliders symmetrical. Shiro has made a very helpful video about it, I definitely recommend checking it out!

The map can be improved a little bit more (mainly on rhythm in the Ultimate diff and the easier diffs), but overall nicely done. Considering this song sounds like it's very hard to map, you made it very playable! Good luck ^^[/color]