Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada · forum

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

Joined July 2011

Flask 2014-11-19T14:27:39+00:00

wcx19911123 wrote:
[EXTREME]
00:53:847 (3) - 这里还是1/4算了，没必要太照顾vocal 薯片說這裡是1/6
00:55:290 (5,6) - 这两个感觉不是很合曲，感觉重音在00:55:386 - 00:55:674 - 才对我在想想怎麼改..現在這個也不是很差
01:21:924 (1) - 像这种减速slider最好还是用shape来提醒，NC根本没啥用其实，把弧度弄成01:17:309 (1) - 这样就好很多扭了下
01:23:463 (1) - 01:26:155 (1) - 01:29:232 (1) - ^

Moway

Moway wrote:
[EXTREME]
00:09:232 (7) - drum hitfinish? cool
00:34:617 (1,2,3) - bit of a longer suggestion here, but I would suggest replacing these with a 1/2 slider instead
00:35:386 (1,2,3) - and these
00:37:694 (1,2,3) - and these
00:38:463 (1,2,3) - and these
00:41:540 (1) - then replace this with three circles
00:42:309 (1) - and this. This makes more sense to me in terms of structure because it matches the music more and is more consistent. For the ones where I suggest replacing the circles, there is really strong drum sounds that occur with lower frequency (example, 00:34:617 and 00:34:905 have really strong drum hits, but there are no other drum hits in between). It makes more sense to me, musically, to map these with sliders to match those drumsThen, at 00:41:540 and 00:42:309, the background music has more going on, so the triplets. I think you don't have to work too much on changing flow to make these changes, and I think it makes the structure of this section a lot more strong since the object density will match the music density (?????????). lol I know your thought, I may think about it later cuz I just place them by my feelings of the song
01:21:924 (1) - I'm not the biggest fan of the slowdowns in this section of the kiai. The music is really driving and flows well in this section, so I don't think the slowdowns fit like they do in the first part of the kiai. Your mapping is also really flowy, so the slowdowns don't fit too well here.
01:23:463 (1) - ^ They're intentional I think, just my feeling told me to do that (again

RB

Raging Bull wrote:
Extreme:
Idk where my flaskland flag puush went. I lost it either, decide to re-draw it
01:14:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:16:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:17:694 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think it's best to incorporate some sliders into these, I usually find it kinda annoying to snap to the next note when it is in a straight/smooth line (like no jumping involved or sharp turns) It would probably make it slightly easier and also more variety in the pattern. Also since you mapped them with same distance, if you add some short jumps or sliders, it will feel much nicer and fills the gap from hard - > Special/extra difficulty jumps imo. I like the next set of da's because of adding some slider and small jumps. This makes the diff much more challenger, since the pattern before the kiai are too easy D:
01:16:155 (1) - The slowdown makes this feel weird to play imo, maybe space it out 4x distance snap instead? I think after slider slowdown in middle of song is good if next note is spaced farther from it.
01:17:694 (1) - ^? Would be a little bit too hard. Current seems flows great
01:21:155 (4) - Really like it if you add little more jumps to kiai like this one here. It can prepare the gap between hard and extra/special. (And this is like a very lonely jump since it's like the only jump here D: ) Nice suggestion, change some patterns a bit
01:22:309 (1) - Yeah pretty close. something like this. maybe space little farther still?
01:23:847 (1) - Yeah this looks real good. eww both this and ^ aren't that easy to fix though, I'd keep it as well

Thanks :3

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hvick225

352 posts

Joined November 2008

hvick225 2014-11-21T14:43:12+00:00

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Atrue

osu! Alumni

1,017 posts

Joined July 2012

Atrue 2014-11-21T15:46:41+00:00

[General]
For next BAT: Give hard maps a chance if you intend to pop it, it has been tested by a lot of players, look at the fav and you'll know why I'm here to help this map.
Also the spread, lemme make it clear in the beginning before something happens. the spread is ok for me, because although the star shows that the gap between hard and extream is about 1.5, the difficulty in hard, is not that easy. For example, you'll be trained to get used to 00:20:771 (1,2) - this kind of rhythm in hard diff.

[Easy]
General
Since it's a bit harder than expected, I'd suggest make it easier. Suggestions about making it easier "on star rating" will in a box, but is also equal to other mods mentioned.
Beats

Notes can be removed to make it "appears" easier

00:26:732 -
00:32:886 -
00:51:347 -
00:57:501 -
01:04:232 -
01:05:001 -

00:59:232 (1,2,3,4) - Just make it easier, newbies cannot get used to these reverses too soon.

SPOILER

01:02:694 (1) - Also here, make it easier please.

SPOILER

01:07:694 (4) - yes, make it simplified.
01:11:732 (1) - This spinner is too close to the next object in the easy diff. But make it shorter will even get more difficult, so I just suggest a note to replace it. and add a note on the end of the spinner's place.

SPOILER

[Normal]
General
Overall ok, just I think hitsound can be better used if it was not original clap.
And some patterns can be confusing, but considering the spread, I'd say that's ok.
Placement
00:59:040 (4,1,2) - Really confusing for a "medium" player, especially here the rhythm is complex.

Forgive me to make it a bit more messy, but easier to read

[Hard]
General
Nice try in training new rhythm concept for players in this stage.
Placement
00:49:232 (3,4,1,2) - A week point in the diff. The space is slightly different between the objects, I know the rhythm change in 1, but you have a NC, and your previous space is about 1.2x, and using 1.2x here is also making the space equal, I think it's not hard to follow the music and get the right rhythm for the players.

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/d0Tmh/cb070ba382.jpg

also see 00:55:771 (4,1,2,3) -

Hitsound
01:16:027 - Consider silencing the ending of the slider. Here the sound is really soft, it's no need to make it obvious. Also 01:17:565 -

EXTREAM:

irc mod

19:48 *Atrue is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/517432 Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada]
19:48 Atrue: 有时间来ircmod 的话跟我说下~ 薯片的req
19:56 Flask: 等等啊 我在擼
19:56 Atrue: ok
19:59 Flask: 好惹
19:59 Atrue: yay
19:59 *Atrue is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/517432 Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada]
20:00 Atrue: 先test
20:00 Flask: 超善良一定1pcss
20:00 Atrue: 爷爷我试过了QAQ
20:01 Atrue: 主要还是手速控制不好
20:01 Atrue: 不过先看我打一遍
20:02 Atrue: orz
20:03 Flask: 超善良的啊
20:03 Atrue: 所以我打图也是有超级弱点
20:04 Atrue: 双数切指和大距离串
20:04 Atrue: 都不擅长然后合到一起
20:04 Atrue: 就悲剧了
20:04 Flask: 野野也
20:04 Flask: 其實我也不會
20:05 Atrue: 我再来一遍
20:07 Atrue: 这次还不错
20:07 Atrue: 来看图
20:10 Atrue: 00:22:501 (2,3) - 这里我觉得重音是在00:22:501 - 这里的
20:10 Atrue: 而且你的音效也是这么下的，所以我觉得换滑条
20:11 Atrue: 像这样
20:11 Atrue: http://puu.sh/d0Pua/aa48cfd462.jpg
20:12 Flask: done~
20:13 Atrue: 00:28:944 (3,4) - 这里也是同理
20:16 Atrue: 00:57:694 (1,2,3,4) - 如果可能的话间距大一点，有点挤得感觉
20:18 Atrue: 01:04:617 (6,7,8,9) - 这里也是，不过感觉倒像是我有点强迫症了233 确实看着本来挺开阔的摆放
20:18 Atrue: 就突然挤成一条线了
20:19 Atrue: 01:21:155 (4) - 这里怎么说呢。。 我觉得不好打
20:20 Atrue: 要是别的方向倒也无所谓了，可是这里应该是要让光标往回走一点来迎合折返的，再折回去就会影响flow
20:20 Atrue: 而这种排列的flow是很重要的
20:21 Flask: 那幾個1/4要改成多大啊o.o
20:21 Atrue: 稍微大一点就行
20:21 Atrue: 看着弄就好，minor建议
20:22 Flask: 其實我感覺01:21:155 (4) - 打的時候鼠標是不會跟著sliderball回來的 因為要去接(5)
20:23 Flask: 就像你在打kick slider的時候鼠標也不會真的跟著sliderball走 因為他很短 不動也按的到 這裡也是 >_>
20:23 Atrue: 你说的对，不过我觉得这个档次的player还是难以判断是不是要往回接，而holdslider的话大部分能打hard的就知道了
20:24 Atrue: 况且本来是稳定bpm的切指，这样成了偶数切指，节奏上也是一个难题
20:26 Flask: haoba
20:26 Atrue: patpat 加油
20:26 Flask: 這個要怎麼改啊
20:27 Atrue: 我也在想，我觉得不如全切指。。不过你要想保持节奏的话
20:27 Atrue: 还是让间距相等起来比较好
20:28 Atrue: 让光标至少在这里不用动太多，或者不跟将要到的地方产生关系，产生来回往复的这种感觉。。
20:28 Atrue: 比如
20:29 Flask: 比如
20:29 Atrue: 我在截图
20:29 Atrue: 网速比较慢
20:29 Flask: 吃薯片作等
20:29 Atrue: http://puu.sh/d0QeW/7a8d64be8e.jpg
20:29 Atrue: 好像也不是很好看
20:30 Atrue: sad
20:30 Flask: 是說擼快開始了 可能會突然失蹤(
20:30 Atrue: 爷爷
20:30 Atrue: lol？
20:30 Flask: 對呀
20:30 Atrue: 汗
20:30 Atrue: 我室友倒是经常玩
20:31 Flask: 跟朋友一起牌挺好玩的
20:31 Flask: 排
20:32 Atrue: 对，这种就是人多玩的high
20:32 Atrue: 一个人很无聊的
20:34 Atrue: 01:31:924 - 这个地方还是map出来
20:34 Atrue: 这个鼓点忽略了挺难受的
20:36 Atrue: 01:35:771 (5,6,7,8) - 其实我有点觉得这四个note不怎么必要，我觉得抓主要就好，比如
20:37 Atrue: http://puu.sh/d0Qyx/ec74d22135.jpg
20:38 Atrue: 别的没啥了，我直接po了

Waiting for mapper's respond, focused on rhythm and pattern

EXTRA:

irc mod

22:42 *Atrue is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/487384 Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada [SPECIAL]]
22:42 Atrue: 打打打？
22:42 Oracle: da?
22:42 Atrue: 打打打
22:42 Oracle: 我现在板子不在
22:42 Atrue: 不不不，是看图~
22:43 Oracle: 啊 怎么啦0 0
22:43 Atrue: 稍等我在核对是不是last pending
22:43 Atrue: 然后testplay
22:43 Oracle: 我redl一下
22:44 *Atrue is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/539909 Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada]
22:44 Atrue: 好了叫我
22:45 Oracle: 我让克 test一下
22:47 Atrue: 哈哈
22:47 Atrue: 我也想打打
22:47 Atrue: 最起码前部分
22:51 Oracle: 维克1pc就FC了
22:51 Oracle: 开头断了一个
22:52 Atrue: 来看我受虐
22:52 Oracle: hou
22:55 Atrue: 就是中间那里
22:55 Oracle: 哎 歌这样 没办法
22:55 Atrue: 嘛，不过别的也有些细小的地方似乎可以稍微说下
22:56 Oracle: 嗯 不过这图我用了大量blanket的style
22:56 Oracle: 动起来比较难
22:56 Atrue: 哦对了也拜托维克把test传上来
22:56 Oracle: 他截图发了
22:56 Atrue: 然后最好还能再找一个test，大概#1000的
22:57 Oracle: 1pc  1miss
22:57 Oracle: KIAI全连
22:57 Oracle: 1000pass不了
22:57 Oracle: 或者说  比较难pass
22:57 Atrue: 单指多少bpm？
22:57 Oracle: 232
22:57 Oracle: 232的19连
22:57 Oracle: 要求很高
22:57 Atrue: 也是
22:57 Oracle: 我自己应该能pass。。
22:57 Oracle: 但是现在手太冷了 又没板子
22:58 Atrue: #500左右有认识的人么
22:58 Atrue: 试试，没有也没事
22:58 Atrue: 然后我们看图
22:58 Oracle: 有来
22:58 Oracle: 来
22:58 Oracle: 了
22:58 Oracle: image
22:58 Oracle: 500左右
22:58 Oracle: 他说他用几十pc左右可以凹出FC
22:58 Oracle: 但是是用笔戳的
22:59 Atrue: 能pass就行
22:59 Atrue: 星爷spe都能pass
22:59 Oracle: 随便pass
22:59 Oracle: CB他700多rank
22:59 Oracle: 说他能FC
22:59 Atrue: 那就cb也行
22:59 Atrue: 都行
22:59 Oracle: CB已经说了啊
23:01 Atrue: 00:28:655 (2,3) - 连起来如何？我觉得滑条尾巴感觉跟连打是一组东西
23:02 Oracle: 00:22:790 (3,1,2,3,4) - 我是用跟这里一样的思路
23:02 Oracle: 视觉上想做的好看点
23:02 Oracle: 因为滑条间的间距都这么大了  连打跟滑条又粘起来  会很挤
23:03 Atrue: 好
23:03 Oracle: 因为滑条尾判定很松  所以这两者打起来是一样的~
23:03 Atrue: 是的
23:03 Oracle: 我现在也越来越爱搞视觉了。。。orz
23:03 Atrue: 00:24:617 (1,2,3,4,5) - 虽然抠了一点，这里我觉得形状还能好看点
23:04 Atrue: 主要是空间不够了
23:04 Oracle: 我看看
23:05 Atrue: 可能也跟flow有关系
23:05 Atrue: sharp turn
23:06 Oracle: 完了 越动越难看
23:07 Oracle: 这个好像只能做这么弯了 不然要跟上面overlap
23:07 Atrue: 也是
23:07 Atrue: hmm
23:10 Oracle: 00:43:463 (3) - 维克十分神奇的miss了这个note
23:10 Oracle: 我不知道是不是有问题
23:11 Atrue: 这种肯定没问题
23:11 Oracle: 难道flow
23:11 Oracle: 不耗
23:12 Atrue: 01:25:899 (2,3,4) - 倒是这里我觉得你顾及了pattern，flow就有点不舒服，好像这种往上走的是挺难搞的
23:13 Oracle: 别提了 这个本来是很锐角的
23:13 Oracle: 他们个个都喷我
23:13 Oracle: 说要弄正三角形
23:13 Oracle: 我没办法
23:13 Oracle: 01:25:386 (1,2,3) - 这三个本来是叠起来的
23:13 Atrue: 01:19:104 (3,1) - 另外间距这里我觉得突然减小也不舒服
23:13 Atrue: 不过你要大改了，如果要改
23:14 Oracle: 这个真的是照顾pattern
23:14 Oracle: 没办法
23:14 Atrue: 其实也不用三角形啊。。我觉得
23:14 Atrue: sad
23:14 Oracle: 这个对称多神
23:14 Oracle: 我难得研发神梗
23:15 Atrue: 哪怕ctrl+h
23:15 Oracle: 其实这个我从test来看还行
23:15 Oracle: 因为有NC
23:15 Atrue: hmm好吧反正我打不了QAQ
23:15 Oracle: 读图是一个NC一组的
23:15 Oracle: 两组NC间的距离在读图的时候是不计的
23:15 Oracle: 我当时也质疑过
23:15 Oracle: 可是薯片说这样好
23:16 Atrue: 你觉得如果
23:16 Oracle: 你是指把后面两个三角ctrl+h么
23:16 Atrue: 01:19:232 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这两组nc互换呢
23:16 Oracle: 这6个ctrl+G？
23:16 Atrue: 不不，只是互换
23:16 Atrue: 前边那个123换到后边
23:17 Atrue: 后边对调前边
23:17 Oracle: 我比较担心的是调换后的01:19:104 (3,1,2) -
23:17 Oracle: 你可以发现我前面的跳虽然乱 但是遵循的都是锐角跳
23:17 Oracle: 这个钝角老实说会十分难打
23:18 Oracle: 01:19:617 (1,2,3) - 然后这个跳也会变得不均匀
23:18 Atrue: 是的
23:18 Oracle: 主要还是角度
23:19 Oracle: 锐角的跳  玩起来比实际难度要低
23:19 Oracle: 维克打完：真心简单
23:19 Atrue: （其实我觉得钝角好打，不知道为啥，上次你那个向日葵我本来改锐角
23:19 Atrue: 后来还是放到角度大一点了
23:19 Atrue: 也是有点奇怪
23:19 Oracle: 因为
23:19 Oracle: 钝角的移动面积很大
23:20 Oracle: 你在板子上框一个钝角和一个锐角
23:20 Oracle: 你看哪个你手的移动面积大
23:20 Atrue: 个人而言我倒是容易把锐角一不小心读成往返
23:20 Atrue: 因为我映射很小
23:20 Oracle: 钝角跳用手指就能控制笔
23:20 Oracle: 锐角*
23:20 Atrue: 好像你们都是大映射。。我即便是钝角也不用移动手掌
23:21 Oracle: hmm
23:21 Oracle: 那这个是style的不同了
23:21 Atrue: 是的
23:21 Atrue: sigh 好吧
23:21 Oracle: 锐角跳更容易玩  这个是有理论的
23:21 Oracle: 你看看飞球的图  虽然随机
23:21 Oracle: 但是角度都是锐角
23:21 Atrue: 嗯这个我知道
23:22 Atrue: 要是钝角也没法改
23:22 Oracle: 这个理论可以贯穿到整个作图
23:22 Oracle: 01:14:873 (3,1,2) - 这也是锐角 xD
23:22 Atrue: 倒是会独特的理解那种日本流。。
23:22 Atrue: 好吧~
23:23 Atrue: 01:36:828 (4) - 跳吧
23:23 Atrue: 我倒觉得宁愿堆到下一个object上
23:23 Atrue: 01:37:597 (4) - 包括这里
23:23 Oracle: 你说的没错
23:23 Oracle: 这里我也觉得卡手
23:23 Oracle: 改改改
23:24 Oracle: 01:38:367 (4) - 这一个不能动
23:24 Atrue: lemme see
23:24 Oracle: 01:38:367 (4,2) - 这两个共用点
23:24 Oracle: 动了后面这个滑条的位置就非常奇葩
23:24 Oracle: overlap丑
23:25 Atrue: 你说的队
23:25 Oracle: 那个间距也稍微小店
23:25 Oracle: 没事
23:25 Oracle: 开头也有类似的梗 但是移动平滑 所以还好
23:25 Atrue: 我还以为你说的是我上边指出来的
23:25 Oracle: 后面就叠开来 刚好有区别
23:26 Atrue: 那两个地方倒是对称的
23:26 Oracle: 其他都改了
23:26 Atrue: 跳在重音上理论 imo
23:27 Atrue: 啊倒也不是
23:27 Atrue: hmm
23:27 Atrue: 算了不找理论了
23:27 Oracle: 不一定的
23:27 Oracle: 要照顾pattern
23:27 Oracle: 和playability
23:27 Oracle: 玩起来卡还是改了好
23:27 Oracle: 有时候感觉也很准确
23:27 Atrue: 我再看一遍
23:28 Oracle: 你这一个建议已经抵过他们很多建议
23:28 Oracle: 这一段顺了很多倍 dio
23:28 Atrue: 01:41:732 - 这里要不要弄成个滑条啊 跟薯片似的
23:28 Atrue: 233 随意~ 只是建议这里 觉得他那么弄挺有意思
23:29 Atrue: 汗我跟你说我都不会mod了
23:29 Oracle: 我这边做了一个对称
23:29 Oracle: 还是不弄了xD
23:29 Oracle: 不是啦  是我这个图太难动
23:29 Atrue: i know，果然还是pattern占了上风啊~ 嘛也不坏
23:29 Oracle: 我摸很多pro mapper的图也是
23:29 Oracle: 说不出东西
23:29 Oracle: 摸普通mapper就能写超多
23:29 Oracle: 。。怎么说的好像我成了pro mapper一样
23:29 Oracle: _(:3
23:30 Atrue: 我也就是推一把了，能说的不太多
23:31 Atrue: 别的东西我也看了没啥可以挑的

Discussed and Fixed: Patterns, asked for some testplays from pro players.

SPECIAL and overall mapset:

irc mod

22:00 Atrue: 针对general来说几点啊。。
22:00 Atrue: hard tag少了oracle
22:00 spboxer3: 好
22:02 spboxer3: ok了
22:02 Atrue: 另外能够确定source啊metadata这些出处正确么？我如果要查的话估计网速挺慢
22:02 Atrue: 得上wiki
22:03 spboxer3: 確定
22:03 Atrue: 好，下面是皮肤组件我看下
22:03 spboxer3: ok
22:09 Atrue: N的custom1音效虽然用到了但是没有相关文件，提醒一下不是忘记传了吧？
22:10 Atrue: 还是说我好长时间不用然后记错了QAQ
22:11 spboxer3: 甚麼意思??
22:11 spboxer3: 沒傳到?
22:11 Atrue: 是的，我这里下载下来是没有N：C1的文件的
22:11 Atrue: 然后听nm diff是原始音效
22:12 Atrue: 虽然也不是不太和谐，但是还是问一下是不是没有传上还是怎么回事
22:13 Atrue: 我刚才又掉了。。 有没有错过啥信息？
22:14 spboxer3: 恩...可以給我一下位置嗎
22:14 spboxer3: 我不太確定現在能不能這樣做 我以前會空著 這樣就不用改custom也可以用原始音效 不用切綠線
22:14 Atrue: 位置？ 其实整个medium都是这种状态
22:15 spboxer3: 233那沒問題 老黃當初做的
22:15 Atrue: 是的，我也会这样，可是确实是没有任何音效文件跟nc1相关~ 只是为了确定下~
22:15 Atrue: 好
22:16 Atrue: 我想下还有啥没check。。 最近才回mod坑，有些东西忘了
22:16 spboxer3: ok~
22:19 Atrue: 另外有没有找testplay,最高和次难度其实我都打不过
22:19 spboxer3: 我還沒上傳喔~
22:19 spboxer3: 阿...我可能要把sp那難度的OD調高
22:19 Atrue: 次难度还好些，挂在单点那边
22:19 spboxer3: 星爺能pass
22:20 spboxer3: 為克開HR在打 1pc 95%
22:22 Atrue: 最好让他们贴出来，感觉底气足一点~ 233
22:22 spboxer3: 233
22:22 Atrue: 这样，在这个mod之后我会让你找testplay
22:22 Atrue: 你就让他们直接贴就行了~
22:22 Atrue: 省事
22:23 spboxer3: 233
22:23 Atrue: 然后来看你的diff~ update 了么？
22:23 spboxer3: 還沒
22:24 Atrue: 也行，也不着急，主要东西没改吧？
22:24 Atrue: 只是od和那个tag
22:24 spboxer3: 沒
22:24 Atrue: 厚
22:26 Atrue: 00:15:963 (5,6) - 其实这个不是overmap吧？
22:26 Atrue: 当然有点倒也没大碍，不过还是for safe?
22:26 spboxer3: 哪個難度?
22:26 spboxer3: 我認為是ok的
22:26 Atrue: 你的diff~ special
22:26 Atrue: 好吧~
22:27 spboxer3: 至少我給這麼多QAT看
22:27 spboxer3: 沒人說過這
22:27 Atrue: 好
22:30 Atrue: 00:53:847 (6) - 我其实不是很理解这里为何要调距离。。
22:30 spboxer3: 克去打了
22:30 spboxer3: 我先看
22:30 Atrue: 好
22:37 spboxer3: 開HR了...
22:39 spboxer3: 。。。
22:39 spboxer3: 還是95%實在佩服了。。。
22:39 Atrue: 看了一遍实在是觉得没啥可以挑的~ 其实你的diff大家都打不动，只是怕有人说overdone
22:39 Atrue: 当然是intended
22:40 Atrue: 所以还是testplay的记录能救你~
22:40 spboxer3: 那只是他們打不動233
22:40 Atrue: 是的
22:40 spboxer3: 恩恩
22:40 Atrue: 然后别的diff还是有些可以探讨的~ 我看看现在能找到谁然后直接irc
22:40 Atrue: 别的就post
22:41 Atrue: hmm关于我提出的那一点你觉得怎么样？其实也是太细小
22:41 Atrue: 但是你别的地方都成一体了~ 也是没啥可以说的
22:41 spboxer3: 我等等就去看lol
22:41 spboxer3: 等克打完
22:41 spboxer3: 他現在96了。。。
22:41 Atrue: 好 我先看看有没有在线的gder
22:42 spboxer3: 嗯??
22:42 spboxer3: gder
22:43 Atrue: 嗯，那就先找ora聊聊~
22:45 spboxer3: 等等再發一次那個點給我orz...
22:45 spboxer3: 我要重開一下
22:45 Atrue: 好
22:46 Atrue: 00:53:655 (5,6,7) - 间距问题，我觉得平衡间距是个办法
22:47 Atrue: 你肯定是有意这么做的，我也只是有点不太明确为啥在这里
22:47 Atrue: 你后边的地方还是很明显的
22:47 spboxer3: 是刻意的沒錯
22:47 Atrue: 00:57:886 (2) - 你看这里就明确了
22:48 spboxer3: 我想營造00:53:751 - 雖然是slider 但是只要打一下 不用hold的感覺
22:48 Atrue: 因为你音效用成了那样
22:48 Atrue: i know，这也就是最后一个合理理由了QAQ
22:48 spboxer3: orz...
22:49 Atrue: 也是，不挑刺了，没啥意思嘛~ 本来就挺不错的了
22:49 spboxer3: 我倒是想改改看 這地方怎麼改要想
22:50 Atrue: 你看这么一来你还能稍微强调一下00:53:847 (6) - 
22:51 Atrue: 除非换节奏，不然换位置造成的影响实际也不会太大，你觉得呢
22:52 spboxer3: 你剛剛是不是有斷線
22:52 Atrue: 欸是么
22:52 spboxer3: 可以截圖給我嗎 我只有看到兩行
22:52 Atrue: 啊啊就是两行
22:52 Atrue: 233 我也在想
22:53 Atrue: 不过那样怕改差了，我先test ora的diff
22:54 spboxer3: 好
22:54 spboxer3: 我等等先去洗澡orz...
22:55 Atrue: 嗯

Discussed and Fixed: minor patterns, some metadata error, also asked for some testplays from top players.

Finishing other parts of this mod. Since we've discussed a lot previously, it's time to push it forward.

Ringating

717 posts

Joined August 2013

Ringating 2014-11-23T01:05:09+00:00

bg and audio mod

your bg is as good as that image can get, since the original is 1024x726 and your image is already stretched slightly to 1024x768. I found 7 possible replacement images using the same character from your current bg (donno if that's important, but w/e). Here are those:

If using that character isn't actually important (I don't know if the song actually has to do with touhou or not) I could probably find some more fitting images.

anyway, your current mp3 is rather low quality (despite being 192 kbps..

), so I found a higher quality version and had pishifat crop it so that it doesn't change your map's offset at all. Here is the higher quality mp3.

no kudosu

Oracle

571 posts

Joined April 2012

Oracle 2014-11-23T02:24:57+00:00

Fixed from Atrue's mod!

dabao

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 74232
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
SkinPreference:Default
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.7
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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Title:Dadadadadadadadadada
TitleUnicode:打打打打打打打打打打
Artist:Hige Driver join. SELEN
ArtistUnicode:ヒゲドライバー join. SELEN
Creator:spboxer3
Version:EXTRA
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:kiddly Loneight BakaHuang Flask Oracle SDVX
BeatmapID:539909
BeatmapSetID:206750

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8.5
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:2.2
SliderTickRate:1

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spboxer3

Global Moderator

3,616 posts

Joined November 2009

Topic Starter

spboxer3 2014-11-23T02:45:02+00:00

Ringating wrote:
bg and audio mod

your bg is as good as that image can get, since the original is 1024x726 and your image is already stretched slightly to 1024x768. I found 7 possible replacement images using the same character from your current bg (donno if that's important, but w/e). Here are those:
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If using that character isn't actually important (I don't know if the song actually has to do with touhou or not) I could probably find some more fitting images.

anyway, your current mp3 is rather low quality (despite being 192 kbps.. ), so I found a higher quality version and had pishifat crop it so that it doesn't change your map's offset at all. Here is the higher quality mp3.

no kudosu

this mp3 is different for my version, check 1:27 part, and you bg are nice but I still want to change bg like original one imo.(can't find high quality versoin

)

original one

still thanks your help^^

Kayano

1,286 posts

Joined July 2011

Kayano 2014-11-23T03:56:57+00:00

薯片啊能把我做的太鼓加进你的creator's word里面吗不想单独开坑>_<

Edit:
http://puu.sh/d4Fyr.osu <- Update if you can see, changed BG 怎么我好像又听到了别的音轨
Star~

Last edited by Kayano 2014-11-25T06:32:13+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Oracle

571 posts

Joined April 2012

Oracle 2014-11-23T19:40:38+00:00

削弱了一下1/16reverse,改了个NC,直接用这个版本吧

wa

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 74232
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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Title:Dadadadadadadadadada
TitleUnicode:打打打打打打打打打打
Artist:Hige Driver join. SELEN
ArtistUnicode:ヒゲドライバー join. SELEN
Creator:spboxer3
Version:EXTRA
Source:REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags:kiddly Loneight BakaHuang Flask Oracle SDVX
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Loneight

osu! Alumni

1,332 posts

Joined January 2011

Loneight 2014-11-24T12:00:47+00:00

all fixed about Atrue's modding
thanks a lot :3

hard 打包速逼

osu file format v13

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Small K

18 posts

Joined July 2011

Small K 2014-11-24T16:43:09+00:00

ㄏ勝
移動注意一下就可以惹

RANK希望 !!1

tutuhaha

3,000 posts

Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2014-11-25T02:27:48+00:00

我觉得sp3不是人，没有人性，没有节操，没有下限，就是这么任性（○｀ 3′○）！【star】

spboxer3

Global Moderator

3,616 posts

Joined November 2009

Topic Starter

spboxer3 2014-11-25T15:40:56+00:00

Atrue wrote:
[General]
For next BAT: Give hard maps a chance if you intend to pop it, it has been tested by a lot of players, look at the fav and you'll know why I'm here to help this map.
Also the spread, lemme make it clear in the beginning before something happens. the spread is ok for me, because although the star shows that the gap between hard and extream is about 1.5, the difficulty in hard, is not that easy. For example, you'll be trained to get used to 00:20:771 (1,2) - this kind of rhythm in hard diff.
[Easy]
General
Since it's a bit harder than expected, I'd suggest make it easier. Suggestions about making it easier "on star rating" will in a box, but is also equal to other mods mentioned.
Beats
Notes can be removed to make it "appears" easier
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00:57:501 -
01:04:232 -
01:05:001 -
all fixed
00:59:232 (1,2,3,4) - Just make it easier, newbies cannot get used to these reverses too soon.
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01:02:694 (1) - Also here, make it easier please.
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01:07:694 (4) - yes, make it simplified.
這三個位置我覺得太難改了主要是改了這音樂就變了不如現在這樣子比較簡單至少只有跟上重音
01:11:732 (1) - This spinner is too close to the next object in the easy diff. But make it shorter will even get more difficult, so I just suggest a note to replace it. and add a note on the end of the spinner's place.
SPOILER
這地方我是覺得... 好像沒甚麼變化阿(汗
主要是加上尾端那個note好像節奏間距就一樣了而slider比note更好打點所以我認為維持現狀會更好些

※牢門授權翻印必究

Rasis

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Rasis 2014-11-25T15:46:39+00:00

打打打打打打打打打打不动

val0108

1,430 posts

Joined January 2010

val0108 2014-11-26T12:25:04+00:00

can i make 0108diff?
Edit:It is very sad to not be able to add this　\o/
http://puu.sh/d73xf/0893e2031d.osu

Last edited by val0108 2014-11-27T02:28:38+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

spboxer3

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Topic Starter

spboxer3 2014-11-26T15:45:43+00:00

val0108 wrote:
can i make 0108diff?

reply in IRC, will add it in creator's word =w="

Ayachi-

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Ayachi- 2014-11-27T00:20:51+00:00

Special
01:13:847 (1) - 01:14:232 (1) -

不確定這可不可以
不是很懂

spboxer3

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spboxer3 2014-11-27T07:47:36+00:00

ok的會有這種情況是因為auto會比正確放開的點還來的早一些這算是已知bug了
所以會有100的情況如果BPM低於一定的速度即使是使用1/16也不會有100

Axey

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Joined October 2009

Axey 2014-11-27T12:49:37+00:00

Atrue wrote:
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General
Overall ok, just I think hitsound can be better used if it was not original clap.
And some patterns can be confusing, but considering the spread, I'd say that's ok.
Placement
00:59:040 (4,1,2) - Really confusing for a "medium" player, especially here the rhythm is complex.
Forgive me to make it a bit more messy, but easier to read

其实你和我说中文就好了:) 改好了谢谢

Atrue

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Atrue 2014-11-28T05:01:46+00:00

After recheck and several more discussing about spread, overmapping stuff, the auto bugs, I decide to give this map a pass.

Several points that you may interested in:

1. Spread: we fixed the spread of hard and extream, the double-taps in hard diff themselves are not that easy, so the gap is far smaller than the star it shows. And the normal is about 1.1 stars from hard, it's a fine spread.

2. Some places that you may regard as overmap:
HARD: 01:17:309 (4) - this slider is the best expression of the drums behind it, a slider is perfect fit in the music, and using a slider is a big add to the difficulty.
SPECIAL:00:15:963 (5,6) - for this level of players, they could regard it as single taps, and the drum is really heavy and strong, using slider to emphasize them makes sense and what is the most important, fits the music.

3. If you care about SPECIAL:01:13:847 (1) - this kind of stuff, and auto cannot get SS on it, it's a well-known bug and won't affect the playability of the part. In fact, when going into the hardest part, the kiai, we need this kind of things to let the HP grow back, this is a way to make it easier and more playable.

4: Do we really need a diff like SPECIAL? Believe me this music is really hard in it's original game. Here we can see a video about it's original version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH5_SRjQHf8 And for the music itself, when you put 25% to hear the music, you'll hear sound every where and it's really fierce in lyrics, bgm, so it can provide a good source of hard maps for top level players. It's not overdone.

So here is my consequence: Bubbled

Good luck!

tutuhaha

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Joined October 2010

tutuhaha 2014-11-28T06:46:13+00:00

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:
Special
01:13:847 (1) - 01:14:232 (1) -

不確定這可不可以
不是很懂

天..我还以为是自己打出来的........
恭喜！

Zweib

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Joined November 2011

Zweib 2014-11-28T07:29:27+00:00

wa

Natteke desu

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Natteke desu 2014-11-28T08:26:42+00:00

incoming mod

mintong89

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mintong89 2014-11-28T08:51:04+00:00

红前留名

Natteke desu

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Natteke desu 2014-11-28T11:08:25+00:00

Not a real mod but we changed diffnames, deleted osb and changed one 1/8 in the higest diff. So i think it's ready

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2014-11-28 11:31 EvilElvis: before i'll mod delete sdvx tag or it can cause drama and fast unrank
2014-11-28 11:31 EvilElvis: because of konami copyrights
2014-11-28 11:32 spboxer3: okay
2014-11-28 11:33 spboxer3: I will fix it when next upload :3
2014-11-28 11:33 EvilElvis: sure thing
2014-11-28 11:41 EvilElvis: is osb in folder needed? asking because i honestly didn't added any skins to my beatmaps
2014-11-28 11:41 EvilElvis: and don't know
2014-11-28 11:41 EvilElvis: if it needed or not
2014-11-28 11:41 EvilElvis: here
2014-11-28 11:41 EvilElvis: :D
2014-11-28 11:42 spboxer3: no, osb is excess in this version xD
2014-11-28 11:43 spboxer3: osb can't affect skin in the folder
2014-11-28 11:43 EvilElvis: okay then, tag, osb and i'd make 3rd combocolor a bit brighter http://puu.sh/d8y7L/22c77e62da.png
2014-11-28 11:44 spboxer3: how about 140,140,140?
2014-11-28 11:45 EvilElvis: will work as well
2014-11-28 11:45 EvilElvis: btw
2014-11-28 11:45 EvilElvis: isn't extra should be named extreme and extreme should be named extra?
2014-11-28 11:47 EvilElvis: seems like yes
2014-11-28 11:48 spboxer3: no idea about this orz... extreme is regular level in jubeat but Extra is another diff in IIDX ((x
2014-11-28 11:49 EvilElvis: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/178700
2014-11-28 11:51 spboxer3: lemme see, wait a sec ;w;
2014-11-28 11:51 EvilElvis: sure
2014-11-28 11:51 EvilElvis: i'll take some water
2014-11-28 11:53 spboxer3: okay :3
2014-11-28 11:53 spboxer3: I will rename it
2014-11-28 11:56 EvilElvis: poke me after!
2014-11-28 11:56 spboxer3: :o it's finished?
2014-11-28 11:56 EvilElvis: yup
2014-11-28 11:56 EvilElvis: it's nothing to complain about from my side
2014-11-28 11:57 spboxer3: ok^^ wait min
2014-11-28 11:58 spboxer3: done, please check again>w<
2014-11-28 11:59 spboxer3: btw, you will get 100th post in this thread \o/
2014-11-28 12:00 EvilElvis: huum
2014-11-28 12:01 EvilElvis: one min
2014-11-28 12:01 spboxer3: okay?
2014-11-28 12:02 EvilElvis: i'll just ask qat about diffnames once again
2014-11-28 12:02 EvilElvis: to be sure
2014-11-28 12:03 EvilElvis: uhh
2014-11-28 12:04 EvilElvis: just one thing, what about renaming extra to expert? Since Extra diffname really common to hard maps it can affect some troubles
2014-11-28 12:04 EvilElvis: or another
2014-11-28 12:06 spboxer3: want to change to another... but it's oracle's diff, want to ask him before I change it
2014-11-28 12:17 EvilElvis: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/487384 Hige Driver join. SELEN - Dadadadadadadadadada [SPECIAL]]
2014-11-28 12:17 EvilElvis: found one thing 01:39:040 (1,1) - 
2014-11-28 12:17 spboxer3: can't connect Flask orz...
2014-11-28 12:18 EvilElvis: it will be kinda hard to catch because of 1/8s in there 
2014-11-28 12:18 spboxer3: umm nc?
2014-11-28 12:18 spboxer3: oh
2014-11-28 12:18 EvilElvis: mind somewhat stacking it?
2014-11-28 12:18 EvilElvis: like
2014-11-28 12:18 EvilElvis: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2286933
2014-11-28 12:18 EvilElvis: for example
2014-11-28 12:19 spboxer3: I can reduce one repeat to change 1/4 rhythm spacing
2014-11-28 12:19 EvilElvis: or this
2014-11-28 12:19 EvilElvis: it will work good too
2014-11-28 12:19 spboxer3: ok :3
2014-11-28 12:20 spboxer3: disconnect for Flask atm _(:3」ㄥ)_
2014-11-28 14:03 EvilElvis: i think it's okay
2014-11-28 14:03 spboxer3: \o/
2014-11-28 14:03 EvilElvis: did you fixed that 1/8?
2014-11-28 14:03 spboxer3: upload done
2014-11-28 14:04 spboxer3: yes