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Betwixt & Between - 12 little fragments of silence [OsuMania

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Fullerene-
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on May-21-15 at 4:36:47 AM

Artist: Betwixt & Between
Title: 12 little fragments of silence
Tags: Kaoru Kimura rCaliberGX SPEED BALL Z TCPLUS-0005 Freeform HARDCORE TANO*C
BPM: 220
Filesize: 10400kb
Play Time: 05:18
Difficulties Available:
  1. ............ - 7Key (7.48 stars, 6261 notes)
Download: Betwixt & Between - 12 little fragments of silence
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Rest in peace Kaoru Kimura.
Born 29 April 1983, died 17 September 2012.


For approval.still gotta work out some stuff
My first 7K map. 0 playtesting.


Thanks to:
  1. _.Spitfire._ on FFR for the background and banner, originally made for the Nuclear Blast JS Awesome Bomb Filez 5 Stepmania pack
  2. Everyone. Every single one of you :3

Changelog:
  1. 31/08/2014 - Applied Sirade, Paulmrm, and ExUsagi's mods
  2. 01/09/2014 - Applied -Kamikaze-'s mod, started work on hitsounds
  3. 18/09/2014 - Applied Agka and [ S a k u r a ]'s mod, updated with hitsounds up to 10% (this shit's hard ok)
  4. 19/09/2014 - Finished hitsounds after like 6 hours of work
  5. 27/09/2014 - Applied Blocko's mod and added some SVs
  6. 03/10/2014 - Applied DE-CADE's mod
  7. 04/10/2014 - General pattern changes to make the map flow better
  8. 10/10/2014 - Applied hutunohito's mod, more pattern changes, fixed the bursts (mostly)
  9. 13/10/2014 - More pattern and SV changes
  10. 02/16/2015 - Updated for the osu!mania 7K dan courses
  11. 05/19/2015 - Remapped many parts, added more SVs, and separated all hitsounds

Rilene
lol
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

Sirade wrote:

From "Sirade's osu!mania GD & NM Queue"

Suggestion = (?)
Recommended = (?!)
Highly-Recommended = (?!!)
Important = (!)
Unrankable = (X)
Unknown = (???)

Columns "|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|"

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00:13:067 (13067|3) & 00:28:408 (28408|3) & 00:49:067 (49067|6) (this is because the burst is bit too for from other) & 03:27:181 (207181|4,207181|6,207249|4,207249|6) & - (?!) Well, this note is to hard to press within the short amount of beat (1/4) in amount of time, also because this is 220 BPM, so recommending to move to column 7, but if there are 1/8 burst stairs, and the burst contain stacked (1/4 beat) on top of each (not overlap) is ok (unless the map become to intense and dense, is ok) (unless the player is pro, example: Abcdullah on https://osu.ppy.sh/s/174381), for some reason, our hand coordination is easier when pressing from left-right fingers (vice versa) when dealing with burst pattern (1/8 beat) that contains note that is stacked on top on each other (1/4 beat and not overlapping), but pressing a 2+ stacked button on this BPM and 1/4+ beat is hard (for most of the players).

03:21:863 (201863|0,201863|6,201863|4,201863|2,201954|0,201954|6,201954|4,201954|2,202045|2,202045|0,202045|6,202045|4,202135|4,202135|2,202135|0,202135|6,202226|0,202226|2,202226|6,202226|4,202317|4,202317|0,202317|6,202317|2,202408|6,202408|2,202408|0,202408|4,202499|0,202499|4,202499|6,202499|2,202590|0,202590|4,202590|6,202590|2,202681|6,202681|2,202681|4,202681|0) & 03:30:590 (210590|6,210590|4,210590|3,210590|0,210590|2,210681|2,210681|4,210681|6,210681|0,210772|2,210772|4,210772|6,210772|0,210863|6,210863|2,210863|4,210863|0,210954|4,210954|2,210954|0,210954|6,211045|4,211045|6,211045|2,211045|0,211135|6,211135|0,211135|4,211135|2) - (???) Oh well, I know this is aimed for approved and is intended to made to be hard but suggesting to change to other pattern, but well I can't think but well, your choice.

And well, since this nazi-mod, the explanation may kinda be... Nerd-ish... :?
And well, this nazi-mod doesn't contain alot of suggestion because this map is kinda too hard for me to mod, so suggesting to get other modder, so good luck on getting ranked approved*.
Thanks for the mod!

I modified the patterns around the jacks you described. As for the quad jacks, I left them as is for now, if multiple other modders suggest to change it then I will.
spoonguy
Alright so I'll divide my mod in two parts: Pattern suggestions and then overall technical issues (in other words, nazi stuff).

1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Pattern Suggestions
SPOILER
00:06:045 - Make this pattern symmetrical. It's only following the drums after all. It gives a good feel to it. Example:

00:13:067 (13067|3) - Why would you put a jack here. It's not only bad for the flow but it's also quite inconsistent with the earlier section.
00:28:340 (28340|3,28408|3) - I don't know why, but those jacks mess me up everytime I play it. Even when I memorize the pattern. Maybe change the column you're using for the kicks? Very minor suggestion tho, since it might just be me.
00:35:976 (35976|4) - That jack right there is pretty evil. Although it's pretty much impossible to not make a jack when there is a 5k chord at the end and the burst has a second note every 1/4. Removing that "second note at a 1/4" will make it inconsistent with everything else. So yeah, I don't have any suggestions, I can only point it out.
00:38:840 - You should make that part at least mirror with the one later. Just sound similar at least. Preferably without that jack at the second burst too.
00:54:590 - It sounds like you are just throwing notes away as kicks in this section. That makes stuff a bit confusing. You should probably choose a column or two or a fixed pattern for them. Same for other parts of the map.
01:07:476 - I suggest you to use the actual snap (which is... according to my ears 1/16) for this part. This pattern is ok too tho.
01:11:499 - Same here. Some stairs at that section would be beautiful.
01:20:499 - ^
01:29:226 - ^
01:16:545 (76545|5) - Move this note to 4.
01:24:863 - This is where stuff starts to get WAY TOO CLUTTERED. Honestly, tone this part down a bit or change those patterns. I can't even read those things.
02:08:635 - Kinda cluttered pattern. perhaps remove 02:08:772 (128772|4) - ?
02:25:954 - Same here. Remove 02:26:226 (146226|0) - . Honestly adding bursts that have jacks in between them is not really good for the flow of your chart considering how dense this section is.
02:29:499 - Do double stairs here? I think they quite fit

04:38:090 - Are you crazy? Putting a burst like that one in the middle of that section, ;-;. Tone it down pls. Perhaps only use the hold note, since this is pretty much 1/252.

Nazi stuff:
SPOILER
00:41:431 - Add a note here.
01:18:590 - You forgot a ln here.
01:19:135 (79135|3) - Different pitch. Move to 7.
01:35:976 - Did you forget to add the notes here or was this intentional? I suggest you to add notes here anyway.
01:37:476 - The pattern actually starts here.
01:37:817 - Note missing here.
01:54:999 - Three note chords should start here.
03:35:772 (215772|4) - Move this note to 03:35:840 -
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

Paulmrm wrote:

Alright so I'll divide my mod in two parts: Pattern suggestions and then overall technical issues (in other words, nazi stuff).

1|2|3|4|5|6|7

Pattern Suggestions
SPOILER
00:06:045 - Make this pattern symmetrical. It's only following the drums after all. It gives a good feel to it. Example:

ok
00:13:067 (13067|3) - Why would you put a jack here. It's not only bad for the flow but it's also quite inconsistent with the earlier section. o shit i actually moved that to 7 but i forgot to update it l0l
00:28:340 (28340|3,28408|3) - I don't know why, but those jacks mess me up everytime I play it. Even when I memorize the pattern. Maybe change the column you're using for the kicks? Very minor suggestion tho, since it might just be me. minijack is kept but pattern is changed, i like how it forces some tension
00:35:976 (35976|4) - That jack right there is pretty evil. Although it's pretty much impossible to not make a jack when there is a 5k chord at the end and the burst has a second note every 1/4. Removing that "second note at a 1/4" will make it inconsistent with everything else. So yeah, I don't have any suggestions, I can only point it out. removed the other notes layered here to make this transition better
00:38:840 - You should make that part at least mirror with the one later. Just sound similar at least. Preferably without that jack at the second burst too. fixed
00:54:590 - It sounds like you are just throwing notes away as kicks in this section. That makes stuff a bit confusing. You should probably choose a column or two or a fixed pattern for them. Same for other parts of the map. considered, added to some parts
01:07:476 - I suggest you to use the actual snap (which is... according to my ears 1/16) for this part. This pattern is ok too tho. no change since i don't want to make this any more of a difficulty spike lol, though i'll consider it
01:11:499 - Same here. Some stairs at that section would be beautiful.
01:20:499 - ^
01:29:226 - ^ done
01:16:545 (76545|5) - Move this note to 4. done
01:24:863 - This is where stuff starts to get WAY TOO CLUTTERED. Honestly, tone this part down a bit or change those patterns. I can't even read those things. the idea for that was to read the empty space rather than the notes itself, idk what else i could do here to differentiate the patterns from the 1st half of this section
02:08:635 - Kinda cluttered pattern. perhaps remove 02:08:772 (128772|4) - ? k
02:25:954 - Same here. Remove 02:26:226 (146226|0) - . Honestly adding bursts that have jacks in between them is not really good for the flow of your chart considering how dense this section is. done
02:29:499 - Do double stairs here? I think they quite fit
didn't put double stairs but something along the lines of that
04:38:090 - Are you crazy? Putting a burst like that one in the middle of that section, ;-;. Tone it down pls. Perhaps only use the hold note, since this is pretty much 1/252. fixed

Nazi stuff:
SPOILER
00:41:431 - Add a note here. done
01:18:590 - You forgot a ln here. whoops i thought it was an echo at first
01:19:135 (79135|3) - Different pitch. Move to 7. same pitch actually
01:35:976 - Did you forget to add the notes here or was this intentional? I suggest you to add notes here anyway. forgot to add notes
01:37:476 - The pattern actually starts here. oops
01:37:817 - Note missing here. didn't catch that, thanks
01:54:999 - Three note chords should start here. fixed
03:35:772 (215772|4) - Move this note to 03:35:840 - done, there were also ghost notes right before that left over from copy paste lol
t.hanks. i'll get to hitsounding soon
Arzenvald
=w=)/ sup

[General]
tag : SPEEDBALL Z or SPEED BALL Z?
hitsound?
idk, i can't find ghost notes.. ==a it just me, or?

[12 dot wot]
00:07:408 (7408|3,7476|2,7476|0,7545|3) - http://puu.sh/bg9tP.jpg
00:27:249 (27249|6) - idk why triple notes, since sounds still same with previous stream, remove
00:37:067 (37067|2,37067|4,37135|4,37135|2) - D: idk if 'humans' able to 300g this part.. and previous LN parts seems over noodle.. =w=
01:11:976 (71976|4,72045|4) - 1/4 aftershock 1/8 is rather cancer, move 01:12:045 (72045|4) - to 7

01:56:772 (116772|4) - 01:57:317 (117317|5) - in bass kick, u use 4 notes, here only 3? add? OR remove 1 note on each bass kick part? (==a are u layering those with 'synth' thing?)
02:17:567 (137567|3,137635|2,137635|4,137704|3) - @_@ brackets, and some part ahead.. idk, just.. 220 bpm brackets.. can you rearrange them, at least don't make bracket pattern things..
02:28:408 (148408|0,148408|5,149499|6,149567|0,149567|4) - http://puu.sh/bgbi2.png (second part is more intense instead fist one)

02:32:226 - 02:47:772 instead a looong rest time, you can add simple & easy LN to following the music.. the breaktime part isn't silence at all..
03:30:681 (210681|2,210772|2,210863|2,210954|2,211045|2,211135|2) - change this jack pattern, at least make it different from previous part.. ==a
04:25:204 (265204|1,265272|0,265340|2) - hue another bracket things.. move it like 3 2 1
04:26:295 (266295|2) - to 7, let the patter flowing without bracket in this part
04:34:067 (274067|4,274135|3,274135|5) - push 1 column to right
04:38:363 (278363|4,278431|3,278499|2) - 4 3 4 http://puu.sh/bgbZj.png puush become stupid when my dad streaming.. :v

anything else? i can't play this.. orz

[Overall]
ok you win now get this shitmap approved or i will kill you.. >:I *lel jk*


=w=)b good luck
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

ExUsagi wrote:

=w=)/ sup

[General]
tag : SPEEDBALL Z or SPEED BALL Z?
hitsound?
idk, i can't find ghost notes.. ==a it just me, or?

[12 dot wot]
00:07:408 (7408|3,7476|2,7476|0,7545|3) - http://puu.sh/bg9tP.jpg i like how it is now
00:27:249 (27249|6) - idk why triple notes, since sounds still same with previous stream, remove done
00:37:067 (37067|2,37067|4,37135|4,37135|2) - D: idk if 'humans' able to 300g this part.. and previous LN parts seems over noodle.. =w= removed some noodles and removed the 1/4 jack lol
01:11:976 (71976|4,72045|4) - 1/4 aftershock 1/8 is rather cancer, move 01:12:045 (72045|4) - to 7 i just removed the last double before the large chord, i doubt many people would notice that minor inconsistency

01:56:772 (116772|4) - 01:57:317 (117317|5) - in bass kick, u use 4 notes, here only 3? add? OR remove 1 note on each bass kick part? (==a are u layering those with 'synth' thing?) supposed to be layering the synth but i'll add a note for those
02:17:567 (137567|3,137635|2,137635|4,137704|3) - @_@ brackets, and some part ahead.. idk, just.. 220 bpm brackets.. can you rearrange them, at least don't make bracket pattern things.. fixed some patterns, i can only do so much when i can't play 7k ;_;
02:28:408 (148408|0,148408|5,149499|6,149567|0,149567|4) - http://puu.sh/bgbi2.png (second part is more intense instead fist one) done

02:32:226 - 02:47:772 instead a looong rest time, you can add simple & easy LN to following the music.. the breaktime part isn't silence at all.. i'll leave it as it is right now because i'm lazy it's seems ok to me. if other modders say it's unrankable then i'll do that
03:30:681 (210681|2,210772|2,210863|2,210954|2,211045|2,211135|2) - change this jack pattern, at least make it different from previous part.. ==a k
04:25:204 (265204|1,265272|0,265340|2) - hue another bracket things.. move it like 3 2 1 done
04:26:295 (266295|2) - to 7, let the patter flowing without bracket in this part changed
04:34:067 (274067|4,274135|3,274135|5) - push 1 column to right fixed while also moved some other patterns around
04:38:363 (278363|4,278431|3,278499|2) - 4 3 4 http://puu.sh/bgbZj.png puush become stupid when my dad streaming.. :v ok

anything else? i can't play this.. orz

[Overall]
ok you win now get this shitmap approved or i will kill you.. >:I *lel jk*


=w=)b good luck
always great to have people who can fix my horrible non-playtested patterns lol

thanks for mod
Kamikaze

Fullerene- wrote:

why are there no mania mod queues that accept marathons damnit
And then when I come to mod there's already 3 mods applied. Oh you cheeky cunt m8

Dank Kami's modding is here to help those in need!
This mod is going to be very nazi and/or suggestions only, because I don't see any critical stuff to be fixed, so I'll try my best to nitpick what I can rofl Feel free to deny whatever you want, but please tell me why
Flagcounters are kinda rip now, get that shit out of map's page
Unfortunately, my keyboard decided to stop working for a while (I'm copying letters now), so I'm taking my good ol' Enigma and I'll write that mod in morse code
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I was serious
Version for pussies and those without Gunnar NoScope Glasses
Columns are: |1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
Whoopsy, I've found something unrankable here: Audio bitrate is higher than 192kbps. Consider recompressing to CBR 192kbps or VBR ~1.0.
Boost OD to 8,5
00:04:681 (4681|1,4681|4,4749|2,4817|3) - Ctrl+H and then move all one grid to right for hand ballance
if you accepted ^ you might wanna move 00:04:954 (4954|4) - to 4th
00:07:135 (7135|5) - Move to 7th, if it's intentional jack then ignore
00:07:408 (7408|3,7545|3) - These look better on 5th
00:10:954 - You could try setups like this for chords, so they'll be more challenging and as we know challenging = fun in most occasions
00:13:135 - ^ and leave 4th empty on last chord for 00:14:090 (14090|3) - to be better suited can't find better word orz
00:14:772 (14772|3) - Why there's 3-noter there? Delete that note unless there's a valid reason
00:18:590 - You could make 6-noter's here following my earlier chord suggestion
00:36:045 - This could use little SV bumps
00:57:045 - 1/4 LN missing 50$ reward
00:58:135 - ^ *ding dong*
You could try randomising some patterns, like here 01:15:045 (75045|6,75079|5,75113|4,75147|0,75181|3,75181|1,75215|2,75249|6,75283|5,75317|4) - to something like that (maybe that's a bad example, but you should get what I mean)
01:20:499 - This could be a really nice gtrill
01:30:317 (90317|2,90317|4,90317|0) - Change into 1/2 LN's, feels better for that sound
01:32:499 (92499|1,92499|5,92499|0) - ^
01:34:681 (94681|2,94681|4,94681|3) - ^
03:41:635 (221635|4,221772|5,221908|4) - Ctrl+H
03:43:817 (223817|4,223954|5,224090|4) - ^
03:45:999 (225999|4,226135|5,226272|4) - ^ 2repetetive4me
03:48:181 (228181|4,228317|5,228454|4) - ^ 3repetetive5me
03:57:999 - 04:00:045 - This is the most painful and evil trill section I've ever seen. This pattern at that speed with those 1/4 breaks is going to do massive brain damage trying not to go full trill speed
That last chord n'chordstream section is fuckin awesome, it reminds me of highly rated BMS charts. Generally your style on that chart reminds me of best hard BMS charts, pls make more
I'll try to get some testplays on it if I catch that lazy piece of shit Hudonom, so I may be back with more
inb4 this map in 7K finals #fullerene-hype
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Fullerene- wrote:

why are there no mania mod queues that accept marathons damnit
And then when I come to mod there's already 3 mods applied. Oh you cheeky cunt m8 hey i asked you first ok

Version for pussies and those without Gunnar NoScope Glasses
Columns are: |1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
Whoopsy, I've found something unrankable here: Audio bitrate is higher than 192kbps. Consider recompressing to CBR 192kbps or VBR ~1.0. m8 i fixed that days ago
Boost OD to 8,5 k
00:04:681 (4681|1,4681|4,4749|2,4817|3) - Ctrl+H and then move all one grid to right for hand ballance done
if you accepted ^ you might wanna move 00:04:954 (4954|4) - to 4th i'll keep it there because of the background vocals
00:07:135 (7135|5) - Move to 7th, if it's intentional jack then ignore yup
00:07:408 (7408|3,7545|3) - These look better on 5th it'd be more comfortable too, moved
00:10:954 - You could try setups like this for chords, so they'll be more challenging and as we know challenging = fun in most occasions i agree on that it would be more fun but i like the repetition i have now i'll move that to 1st and keep the 5 note chord
00:13:135 - ^ and leave 4th empty on last chord for 00:14:090 (14090|3) - to be better suited can't find better word orz
00:14:772 (14772|3) - Why there's 3-noter there? Delete that note unless there's a valid reason triples there are to the vocals + snare hits
00:18:590 - You could make 6-noter's here following my earlier chord suggestion don't really see a reason to
00:36:045 - This could use little SV bumps added that and it looks pretty sweet
00:57:045 - 1/4 LN missing 50$ reward i'm only putting them every measure ok
00:58:135 - ^ *ding dong* ^dat
You could try randomising some patterns, like here 01:15:045 (75045|6,75079|5,75113|4,75147|0,75181|3,75181|1,75215|2,75249|6,75283|5,75317|4) - to something like that (maybe that's a bad example, but you should get what I mean) i do agree that the patterns aren't the most creative, i patterned them so they're easy rolls to hit (for the most part)
01:20:499 - This could be a really nice gtrill wat
01:30:317 (90317|2,90317|4,90317|0) - Change into 1/2 LN's, feels better for that sound 1/2 here
01:32:499 (92499|1,92499|5,92499|0) - ^ this is 1/3
01:34:681 (94681|2,94681|4,94681|3) - ^ made this 1/4
03:41:635 (221635|4,221772|5,221908|4) - Ctrl+H
03:43:817 (223817|4,223954|5,224090|4) - ^
03:45:999 (225999|4,226135|5,226272|4) - ^ 2repetetive4me
03:48:181 (228181|4,228317|5,228454|4) - ^ 3repetetive5me i think this is one section i will never change lol, repetition is gud m8
03:57:999 - 04:00:045 - This is the most painful and evil trill section I've ever seen. This pattern at that speed with those 1/4 breaks is going to do massive brain damage trying not to go full trill speed made the doubles [13][57][13] so they alternate hands
That last chord n'chordstream section is fuckin awesome, it reminds me of highly rated BMS charts. Generally your style on that chart reminds me of best hard BMS charts, pls make more danks
I'll try to get some testplays on it if I catch that lazy piece of shit Hudonom, so I may be back with more
inb4 this map in 7K finals #fullerene-hype agka said it's too long unless it's a tiebreaker and that's already picked oop
morse code translator breaks because of question marks orz
Agka
Okay, uh, I'm going to try and help the overall playability of this thing...
I'm not sure I'm really going to succeed, though.

1234567

00:04:340 - The section is an introduction, so in terms of playability is kind of overlayered
00:06:045 (6045|0,6045|6,6113|1,6113|5,6181|2,6181|4,6249|0,6249|6,6317|2,6317|4,6385|6,6385|0,6454|1,6454|5,6522|2,6522|4) - The pattern does not make the kick feel strong. The break at 00:06:181 (6181|4,6181|2,6249|0,6249|6,6317|4,6317|2,6385|6,6385|0) - makes it not flow, either.
00:06:863 (6863|1,6931|2,6999|3) - Try moving these to the sides in general; they're odd at the center since they're not exactly strong sounds.
00:12:317 (12317|1) - Move to the 5th lane lol bracket
00:12:658 (12658|4,12658|2) - why two?
00:19:885 (19885|4,19954|3) - Shift up a lane.
00:20:772 (20772|5,21317|1) - Shift to closest outmost lanes instead
00:22:135 (22135|3) - Overall, while your layering is correct your marking is not; emphasize kicks for instance by placing them on the same lane.
00:28:340 (28340|3,28408|3) - Try keeping jacks to the 23/56 lanes.
00:44:533 (44533|5,44567|4,44601|2,44635|6,44635|0,44635|3,44670|1,44704|5,44704|4,44738|6) - Change to a more linear flow
00:48:897 (48897|4,48931|5,48965|2,48999|3,48999|6,48999|0,49033|4,49067|1,49067|2,49101|0) - ^
00:53:499 - kind of awkward to have both 1 and 7th lanes emptied; so there's either rearranging or removing the notes from the middle lane.
01:01:648 - this whole section has no marking on the kick even when properly layered; try to have the miniholds that emphasize the synth on the same lane too to mark them properly as well
01:18:999 (78999|3,79135|3) - You can probably abuse the forced release and get the same effect.
01:40:204 (100204|1,100272|2,100340|3) - for this kind of streams you can make symmetrical patterns to get something that feels pitch relevant and doesn't force jacks
02:08:635 (128635|0,128635|6,128670|1,128670|5,128704|4,128704|2,128738|0,128738|6,128772|3,128772|1,128772|5) - Linear bursts please etc
02:09:590 - Remove one to trick mind to feel the pitch increase
02:17:363 (137363|0,137363|6,137397|5,137397|1,137431|4,137431|2) - linear bursts please
02:21:658 (141658|3) - switch to 2nd lane and 02:21:726 (141726|4) - remove

Yeah, you have to hold it back a bit if you want people other than gon, longgone, entozer and such to be able to play this stuff.
Ayachi-
sorry for delay
column: 1-7

Mod
[............]
Kiaia isn't snapped
00:12:317 (12317|1) - Suggest move to column 5
00:47:704 - Add note at column 2 and 6
02:02:499 - 3 notes here is enough
02:03:045 - Suggest 4 or more notes here since this is stronger than other like 02:02:499 - which has 4 notes
02:51:999 (171999|4,172272|2) - Ctrl+h
02:54:726 (174726|0) - move to column 1
02:56:635 (176635|4) - move to column 7
03:11:090 - should be the same as 03:10:681 - ,03:11:090 - Add a note to column 1 and column 6, 03:11:226 - Add to column 4 and 5
04:18:863 - Add notes
04:37:135 - same as 04:36:045 - so add a note
04:48:045 - Take out some notes, weaker than 04:48:317 -
04:57:863 - come one don't leave it blank

good luck
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

Agka wrote:

Okay, uh, I'm going to try and help the overall playability of this thing...
I'm not sure I'm really going to succeed, though.

1234567

00:04:340 - The section is an introduction, so in terms of playability is kind of overlayered
00:06:045 (6045|0,6045|6,6113|1,6113|5,6181|2,6181|4,6249|0,6249|6,6317|2,6317|4,6385|6,6385|0,6454|1,6454|5,6522|2,6522|4) - The pattern does not make the kick feel strong. The break at 00:06:181 (6181|4,6181|2,6249|0,6249|6,6317|4,6317|2,6385|6,6385|0) - makes it not flow, either.
00:06:863 (6863|1,6931|2,6999|3) - Try moving these to the sides in general; they're odd at the center since they're not exactly strong sounds.
00:12:317 (12317|1) - Move to the 5th lane lol bracket
00:12:658 (12658|4,12658|2) - why two?
00:19:885 (19885|4,19954|3) - Shift up a lane.
00:20:772 (20772|5,21317|1) - Shift to closest outmost lanes instead
00:22:135 (22135|3) - Overall, while your layering is correct your marking is not; emphasize kicks for instance by placing them on the same lane.
00:28:340 (28340|3,28408|3) - Try keeping jacks to the 23/56 lanes.
00:44:533 (44533|5,44567|4,44601|2,44635|6,44635|0,44635|3,44670|1,44704|5,44704|4,44738|6) - Change to a more linear flow
00:48:897 (48897|4,48931|5,48965|2,48999|3,48999|6,48999|0,49033|4,49067|1,49067|2,49101|0) - ^
00:53:499 - kind of awkward to have both 1 and 7th lanes emptied; so there's either rearranging or removing the notes from the middle lane.
01:01:648 - this whole section has no marking on the kick even when properly layered; try to have the miniholds that emphasize the synth on the same lane too to mark them properly as well
01:18:999 (78999|3,79135|3) - You can probably abuse the forced release and get the same effect.
01:40:204 (100204|1,100272|2,100340|3) - for this kind of streams you can make symmetrical patterns to get something that feels pitch relevant and doesn't force jacks
02:08:635 (128635|0,128635|6,128670|1,128670|5,128704|4,128704|2,128738|0,128738|6,128772|3,128772|1,128772|5) - Linear bursts please etc
02:09:590 - Remove one to trick mind to feel the pitch increase
02:17:363 (137363|0,137363|6,137397|5,137397|1,137431|4,137431|2) - linear bursts please
02:21:658 (141658|3) - switch to 2nd lane and 02:21:726 (141726|4) - remove

Yeah, you have to hold it back a bit if you want people other than gon, longgone, entozer and such to be able to play this stuff.

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

sorry for delay
column: 1-7

Mod
[............]
Kiaia isn't snapped
00:12:317 (12317|1) - Suggest move to column 5
00:47:704 - Add note at column 2 and 6
02:02:499 - 3 notes here is enough
02:03:045 - Suggest 4 or more notes here since this is stronger than other like 02:02:499 - which has 4 notes
02:51:999 (171999|4,172272|2) - Ctrl+h
02:54:726 (174726|0) - move to column 1
02:56:635 (176635|4) - move to column 7
03:11:090 - should be the same as 03:10:681 - ,03:11:090 - Add a note to column 1 and column 6, 03:11:226 - Add to column 4 and 5
04:18:863 - Add notes
04:37:135 - same as 04:36:045 - so add a note
04:48:045 - Take out some notes, weaker than 04:48:317 -
04:57:863 - come one don't leave it blank

good luck
ok so i updated this 2 weeks ago but i don't exactly remember what my comments were for each :/

forgive me for this one mishap
Blocko
Hi, Fullerino!
Mod by requesterino.

[General]
OK!

7K Column wrote:

1|2|3|4|5|6|7
[............]
00:16:954 (16954|2,17158|1,17226|2) - Ctrl + H so it's like a 'role reversal' of LNs and singles.
00:28:340 (28340|3,28408|3) - The kicks in the same column are good, but the minijack with the chords in might be uncomfortable. Move the jacks to column 5 or 6, then 00:28:408 (28408|4) - move to 4 for player comfortability.
00:28:476 (28476|1) - Move to 1
01:07:749 (67749|4) - Move to 2
01:46:204 (106204|4) - Move to 4
02:09:590 (129590|4,129590|3) - Move 2 columns to the left for hand balance. That part kinda squeezes the notes to the right hand.
02:19:135 (139135|4) - Move to 7
02:32:226 to 02:48:045 - Map some simple LNs in that follows the music since there's mappable sounds.
03:17:908 (197908|3,198181|3) - Move to 3
03:25:613 (205613|3,205749|2) - Move 1 column to the right
04:04:817 (244817|6,244954|5,245090|6) - Switch these around by column. Though it breaks PR, it looks a little nicer imo
04:10:681 (250681|3) - Move to 1
04:17:090 (257090|3) - Move to 5
04:32:363 (272363|2) - Move to 1
04:38:226 to 04:39:317 - This part has less sounds but it has more notes in than it should be. Tone it down a bit?
04:45:454 (285454|2) - Move to 4

Overall, I like the map, especially that death chordstream. So yeah, have yourself a star.
Good luck on approval!
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

Blocko wrote:

Hi, Fullerino!
Mod by requesterino.

[General]
OK!

7K Column wrote:

1|2|3|4|5|6|7
[............]
00:16:954 (16954|2,17158|1,17226|2) - Ctrl + H so it's like a 'role reversal' of LNs and singles. done
00:28:340 (28340|3,28408|3) - The kicks in the same column are good, but the minijack with the chords in might be uncomfortable. Move the jacks to column 5 or 6, then 00:28:408 (28408|4) - move to 4 for player comfortability. done
00:28:476 (28476|1) - Move to 1 done
01:07:749 (67749|4) - Move to 2 oh shit i didn't catch that, thanks
01:46:204 (106204|4) - Move to 4 done
02:09:590 (129590|4,129590|3) - Move 2 columns to the left for hand balance. That part kinda squeezes the notes to the right hand. it's intentional but i changed it
02:19:135 (139135|4) - Move to 7 done
02:32:226 to 02:48:045 - Map some simple LNs in that follows the music since there's mappable sounds. i'll do it if it's not rankable, but i really want to leave this break here since the sounds that play in this section aren't strong enough to map imo
03:17:908 (197908|3,198181|3) - Move to 3 done
03:25:613 (205613|3,205749|2) - Move 1 column to the right moved it 2 columns for symmetryuryuihwjkn
04:04:817 (244817|6,244954|5,245090|6) - Switch these around by column. Though it breaks PR, it looks a little nicer imo done, i didn't actually PR anything in this section lol
04:10:681 (250681|3) - Move to 1 done
04:17:090 (257090|3) - Move to 5 done
04:32:363 (272363|2) - Move to 1 done
04:38:226 to 04:39:317 - This part has less sounds but it has more notes in than it should be. Tone it down a bit? fixed
04:45:454 (285454|2) - Move to 4 done and moved some other patterns around

Overall, I like the map, especially that death chordstream. So yeah, have yourself a star.
Good luck on approval!
t.hanks for da mod blockorino
Lirai
Sup.
Here's Quick Mod for your chart ~

[............]
00:43:067 (43067|5) - Move to 5, make it variety like 75 74 75

00:49:749 - Add to |5|

00:54:795 (54795|3) - Move to |2| so it could be like 123 321 123

01:01:476 (61476|4,61545|3,61613|2) - Ctrl+H same reason as above

01:02:635 (62635|1,62635|0,62704|2) - Ctrl+J, i think this placement are reversed with the beat

01:19:135 (79135|3) - Move to 7, to avoid LN before it

01:20:090 - Add to 3, triple here just like before

01:27:999 (87999|2) - Delete, Double is enough

01:29:499 - Add to 1, quad for cymbal

02:28:408 (148408|5) - Delete, and add to |5|7|

03:05:226 (185226|3) - Delete, i think triple is enough

03:20:772 (200772|1,200772|5) - Move to 1 n 7, for cymbal i think it's good to use our ring finger

04:38:090 (278090|3) - Change to Normal Note on col 1

Since i can play it so yeah, sorry if my mod is useless

Good Luck for Approved ~ owo
Topic Starter
Fullerene-

DE-CADE wrote:

Sup.
Here's Quick Mod for your chart ~

[............]
00:43:067 (43067|5) - Move to 5, make it variety like 75 74 75

00:49:749 - Add to |5| i hear the sound here but i want more emphasis on that main percussion here

00:54:795 (54795|3) - Move to |2| so it could be like 123 321 123

01:01:476 (61476|4,61545|3,61613|2) - Ctrl+H same reason as above

01:02:635 (62635|1,62635|0,62704|2) - Ctrl+J, i think this placement are reversed with the beat wasn't quite this but i changed it to something similar http://puu.sh/bY8MY.png

01:19:135 (79135|3) - Move to 7, to avoid LN before it this is intentional to emphasize the staccato notes of the synth that is placed to an LN

01:20:090 - Add to 3, triple here just like before

01:27:999 (87999|2) - Delete, Double is enough it's a quad when it's synth (LN) 1/1 note (clap + 2 for kick)

01:29:499 - Add to 1, quad for cymbal adding a note here would make a 1/4 minijack in any other spot which makes the burst play awkwardly, some spots are inconsistent but justified like this

02:28:408 (148408|5) - Delete, and add to |5|7|

03:05:226 (185226|3) - Delete, i think triple is enough

03:20:772 (200772|1,200772|5) - Move to 1 n 7, for cymbal i think it's good to use our ring finger

04:38:090 (278090|3) - Change to Normal Note on col 1 nah i think it's ok now

Since i can play it so yeah, sorry if my mod is useless i can't either :D

Good Luck for Approved ~ owo
Thanks for the mod! No comment means accepted, reject is bold
shionelove
hi~from queue
column 1234567

[........................................]
00:10:545 - add 17
01:18:999 (78999|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2106579
01:30:772 (90772|3,90817|2) - why1/6?change 1/4 please
01:31:045 (91045|2,91090|1,91317|1,91363|0,91590|0,91635|6) - ^
01:37:442 (97442|1) - delete

Good Luck~
Topic Starter
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hutunohito wrote:

hi~from queue
column 1234567

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00:10:545 - add 17
01:18:999 (78999|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2106579 LN is on first note but not 2nd because LNs have special emphasis on when to release, a short LN is used as a staccato effect (sudden/sharp/short notes etc.)
01:30:772 (90772|3,90817|2) - why1/6?change 1/4 please Actual rhythm is 1/6, not 1/4. It's probably too hard to make out if you slow down in game editor since it stretches audio to keep pitch, but it's correct right now.
01:31:045 (91045|2,91090|1,91317|1,91363|0,91590|0,91635|6) - ^ same as above
01:37:442 (97442|1) - delete It's correct as it is now, Paulmrm pointed that out.

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