Caramelos de Cianuro - La Casa

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Luvdic
Wtf, why I didn't get any notification of new posts?

Artavia wrote:

Intermedio

  1. I can't find big problem.
    I think its better the way it currently is
  2. 00:34:009 (1) - I think removal one reverse and add circle is better.

-Bakari- wrote:

  1. I'm quite sure that Xanandra won't be happy to have ErufenRito in the tags. Anyways, you'd bettter ask him directly.
    Oh you mancuso :<



[Intermedio]
  1. There are quite a lot of unused green lines. Please, consider removing them as they might glitch the game. 01:47:343 - example.
    So far, I don't know any glitch that might occur, the reason that I decided not to so it's because there's just too many of them, and deleting them one by one gives more room to errors, and thus to actually really glitch it, so in the end I decided it was not worth it.
  2. I'd try to map those empty 3/2 gaps like 00:28:732 - first of all, that'd give your more consistent rhythm. SEcondly, it will make the star rating go higher and improve the balance of the set significantly.

    I disagree, this diff fits perfectly as a middle diff between hard and easy imo. The fact that it has so low star rating just proves that star rating calculations (specially for easier difficulties as I have seen so far) it's still not very precise. Just check how frequent you have to click the notes, in easy it's usually every 2 white ticks, with the occasional 1 or 3 or 4 ticks and with a low amount of circles as well (17%), it's basically follow sliders, while the normal is mainly every 1 tick with the occasional 1/2 tick with much more amount of circles (35%)

    Anyways, this map was very hard for me to map, as since the rhythms are kinda hard to follow (as in the guitar, vocals, drums, etc pretty much have different polarity, and since they take prominence in different parts throughout the song, making the transitions for them in a smooth way was pretty hard, even more since I had to keep it simple, or else it would be too complicated to understand), So yeah, I guess what I try to say is that adding more notes just for the sake of making it more difficult won't do it for me.

  3. 02:56:232 (3,1) - pretty sure you'd like to keep x1.0 DS here instead of weird x1.2 which was sorta inconsistent.
    Nice catch

Yauxo wrote:

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■ 00:29:287 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe try this rhythm? Having the downbeat on 00:29:287 (1) - 's and 00:31:509 (1) - 's end + a break on a audible long note at ~00:31:093 - and 00:33:454 - makes this feel weird to me.



Intentional ;)

■ 01:16:232 (2) - I#d actually move the NC here. 01:15:676 (1) - kinda sounds like it belongs to 01:14:843 (4) -, where 01:16:232 (2) - sounds completely different
Actually, youre half right, combo should start at 01:14:843 -

■ 02:19:565 (3,4) - unstack? You also didnt stack it here 00:51:232 (4,1) - + you didnt use any stacks at all in this diff, so why would you use one here? Kepp the cursors moving /o/
Hmm... fine...

■ 04:09:287 (3) - Circle here?
There's no real need for that imo, so no need to complicate things for nothing
http://puu.sh/dg2Yv/c5ce7942a1.osu
Topic Starter
mancuso_JM_

Yauxo wrote:



Hi there, coming from your request in our/my Modding Queue. Be so kind to take some minutes (or seconds, lets be honest) to answer to my mods. Dont be a dick and just "lol didnt changed stuffs hurr durr" without an explanation. If I told you something that was against your map, tell me why. This way mapper and modder both gain something. As you can see, I always give a proper answer to all the modders, so don't worry :P

Unrankable
Suggestion

Other than that, colours yellow to red indicate how important changes would be in my opinion
(copy paste end)

[General]
■ I'll assume that the difficulty names are Easy Normal and Hard in ... Spanish? PT? D: Spanish.. It's a spanish song, that's why xD
■ How about adding the translated title into the tags? Hmm.. not really necessary in my opinion :/, let's see what others think
[Easy]
I guess I'll go somewhat nazi on things (like small coord changes), as I think that the map's probably really good already

■ 00:36:509 (1,2,3) - Personally not a big fan of only slightly curved things, so maybe have these in a straight line? I like how this flow, during the gameplay the difference is really low, that's why I'll keep it.



■ 00:37:620 (3) - I think a blasic rhythm like (image) would be better in an Easy diff. But this works for me, I mean he changed exactly the syllable in this point, so using a repetition in there is the best way to cover it I think.



■ 00:40:398 (5) - y 132 to be on the same coord as 00:37:620 (3) -
00:41:232 (1) - 00:59:009 (1) - (etc) It kinda buggs me that this one a) doesnt start on the big white/downbeat, but on an empty redtick. The actual vocal starts at the blue tick behind that (which obviously also wouldnt be a good idea to place it on in an Easy diff)
Imo, it'd be better if you kept a simple rhythm here as well. Moving the objects to the white tick before sounds much better and prevents unmapped strong beats and awkward vocal mapping Ok guys, you win.. I've seen much harder things in easy difficulties but you're complaining a lot about it so maybe I'm wrong.. Re-mapped all of the up-beat..

02:10:120 (1,2) -
02:27:898 (1) -


■ 01:06:509 (4,1) - These two bug me for a similar reason as above. They feel awkward as they skip strong beats that shouldve been mapped. But he's singing in this way, pls! I've to follow the music, in this case there is not other thing to follow like the other points, sadly this is not my fault, is Azier (the singer) fault..
01:12:065 (1,2) - Less edgy maybe? 1 is new, 2 is old Hmm.. nah, this is more a personal like I suppose, I'll keep that because I like how this one looks.



■ 02:19:843 (2) - curve a tiny bit more for a better blanket? oops... Done..
■ 04:04:287 (1) - Maybe change this one to how 04:02:620 (2,3) - works? (with the little break inbetween) Completely different sections, I'm not changing that..
[Hard]
■ Are all the Sliderslide hitsounds intended? 00:19:565 (4) - for example. Sometimes you use them, sometimes you dont (another example: you use them here 01:05:120 (4) - but you dont use them the slider after 01:07:343 (1) - ) Yep, they are intentional, some of them are following the instrumental (in the first section till 00:36:509 -), the rest are following in general long prhases.
■ 00:46:509 (4) - I dont think that you'll need a drum hitsound here. There's nothing drumm-y to support lol.. this should be a soft whistle instead, little mistake xD
■ 03:06:787 (8) - ctrl+g maybe? Would support the circular movement/flow into the next Slider. Nice one, I liked it. Fixed.

Looks good :3
I took my time, but I finally check this mod :P.. Thanks a lot!
Updated!
neonat
Facil

00:25:398 (4) - Before:

After:

Yeah I know it's pretty simple adjustments but I think touch-ups to make things perfect is nice
01:34:287 (1,2) - blanket them nicely?
01:34:287 (1,3) - once ^ is done stack these exactly on each others heads
03:46:509 (1) - I found this slider a little bit too out of place here honestly, it felt like a filler. But then also as a filler, I thought if it used the same pattern as what was being used before this, it would blend right in better:


Intermedio

00:34:009 (1) - set aside the fact that this repeat slider has multiple repeats, the music at the point at 00:34:287 is pretty strong, it's the peak pitch (highest tone) in the tune of this section, splitting this to a circle at 00:34:009 and a repeat slider starting from 00:34:287 would be a way to fully express the feeling of the music, by allowing players to click at that point
01:47:343 - Unnecessary inheriting line
01:47:620 - ^
02:04:287 - unnecessary inheriting line
02:04:565 - ^ as it's the same as 01:45:537
02:21:232 (2,3) - adjusting them to allow their ends to line up nicely would be great
02:43:732 (4) - NC here instead of 02:44:565 (1) - that's what you did before the break, refer to 01:14:843 (1) and 01:32:620 (1)

Dificil

00:27:343 (4) - soft whistle, or drum whistle, whichever you think fits more, but something to go with that hi-hat sound in the song, it's the same as 00:36:232 (5)
00:50:676 (3) - why drum whistle in the middle though? It sounds kinda awkward
02:52:065 (4) - NC here instead of 02:52:898 (1) - you usually add it this way, like at 01:23:176 (1)
03:48:176 (2,3) - the end of 03:48:176 (2) is not really centralized to the middle of the curve of the next slider, making further away from the slider head of 03:49:009 (3) - hence blanket is not really exact


Good Luck
Topic Starter
mancuso_JM_

neonat wrote:

Facil

00:25:398 (4) - Before:

After:

Yeah I know it's pretty simple adjustments but I think touch-ups to make things perfect is nice That's true, should be better now.
01:34:287 (1,2) - blanket them nicely?
01:34:287 (1,3) - once ^ is done stack these exactly on each others heads I did something here, with those sliders :P
03:46:509 (1) - I found this slider a little bit too out of place here honestly, it felt like a filler. But then also as a filler, I thought if it used the same pattern as what was being used before this, it would blend right in better: Hmm.. I didn't found it any issue with that rhythm, plus a lot of modders were telling me to simplify the rhythm as much as I can, and adding a single note over a red tick is not that easy for the difficulty. Plus, this slider provides a good mix between vocals/guitar, after the repetition starts a part of vocals, that's why I've decided to do it in this way.


Dificil

00:27:343 (4) - soft whistle, or drum whistle, whichever you think fits more, but something to go with that hi-hat sound in the song, it's the same as 00:36:232 (5) Used a soft one.
00:50:676 (3) - why drum whistle in the middle though? It sounds kinda awkward it was following vocals, but sounds a bit weird listening to again, that's why I've removed it :P
02:52:065 (4) - NC here instead of 02:52:898 (1) - you usually add it this way, like at 01:23:176 (1) Makes sense.
03:48:176 (2,3) - the end of 03:48:176 (2) is not really centralized to the middle of the curve of the next slider, making further away from the slider head of 03:49:009 (3) - hence blanket is not really exact I've tweaked this pattern a bit


Good Luck
Thanks!
Updated my diffs.. Waiting for Xanandra!
Luvdic
Oops, casi se me olvida esto :x

(mancu debe odiarme)

neonat wrote:

Intermedio

00:34:009 (1) - set aside the fact that this repeat slider has multiple repeats, the music at the point at 00:34:287 is pretty strong, it's the peak pitch (highest tone) in the tune of this section, splitting this to a circle at 00:34:009 and a repeat slider starting from 00:34:287 would be a way to fully express the feeling of the music, by allowing players to click at that point
I feel that this way is much more simple to play, since your suggestion implies the player to hit a circle, then a slider 1/1 long, and then another slider even longer, too many objects with different rhythm to process at the same time.

01:47:343 - Unnecessary inheriting line
01:47:620 - ^
02:04:287 - unnecessary inheriting line
02:04:565 - ^ as it's the same as 01:45:537
Read previous mod response about what I think of this lines.

02:21:232 (2,3) - adjusting them to allow their ends to line up nicely would be great
Dont think its necessary

02:43:732 (4) - NC here instead of 02:44:565 (1) - that's what you did before the break, refer to 01:14:843 (1) and 01:32:620 (1)
Oops, thanks ;)
@mancu: puedes hacer lo del combo por mi pls? :$?
Topic Starter
mancuso_JM_
I'm back! Fixed the NC in ''Intermedio'' and increased the AR to 7.5 in Dificil.

Updated and ready for mods again!
Yuii-
Change description of the map.

It says: "Intermedio (Intermidate/Normal)".

It should be "Intermediate".

I will mod this map tomorrow because now I'm so tired ;w;

Good luck ~
Kazuya
Hello, from my Modding Queue. Sorry, my english is horrible. It's only ideas!

[Hard]

This song slow, AR7 better, because the objects is not dense.
  1. 00:40:815 - Put circle here. Strange, and deficient if there is no circle here. Please, emphasize the voice.
  2. 00:41:694 - 00:41:880 - Hmm. Make a 1/3 parts here. Let little variety. Put circles here: 00:41:694 - 00:41:880 - remove reverse from 00:41:787 (3) - slider, and move this slider here: 00:42:065 -
    Timeline example: http://puu.sh/exfip/0e48d4995a.jpg
  3. 00:42:620 (6) - Same as. Make a 1/3 parts here. Change this slider end here: 00:42:991 - , and put circle here: 00:43:176 - A little of vocal. Timeline: http://puu.sh/exfvp/edc0242dd1.jpg
  4. 00:45:954 (3,4) - Vocal killer. The vocal more pronounced: Put circle here: 00:45:954 - , and put 1/1 slider here: 00:46:232 - Timeline: http://puu.sh/exfN5/9e3ef237e3.jpg I think use my suggestion.
  5. 00:54:843 (3,4,5,6,7) - I think this part little boring. There is opportunity! Follow the vocal: http://puu.sh/exgl3/559863f6ba.jpg This is 1/3 and 1/2 part! Take advantage of!
  6. 01:05:954 (5) - I think, two circle better fits the drums/guitar.
  7. 01:07:343 (1) - This reverse is not fit here. The vocal ends here: 01:07:898 - , the reverse slider is weird here. Please, remove reverse, and put circles here: 01:08:176 - 01:08:454 -
  8. 01:15:954 (8,1) - I think, follow the vocals. Put circle here: 01:15:954 - and put 1/1 slider here: 01:16:232 -
  9. 01:18:454 (5) - Same as 01:07:343 (1) - Remove reverse, and put circles here: 01:19:287 - 01:19:565 -
  10. 01:20:398 (7) - I think, two circle better fits the drums, ang guitars. If you don't like it: 01:19:843 (6) - =add once repeat (because vocal ends here 01:20:398 - ), and put circle here: 01:20:676 -
  11. 01:22:620 (3) - Hey, bit monotonous. Please, follow the vocal! Remove this slider, put circles here: 01:22:620 - 01:22:898 - 01:23:037 -
  12. 01:34:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This part little vocal killer. Please, use this similar: http://puu.sh/exiLJ/961d8ab537.jpg (Timeline)
  13. 01:40:815 - Missing circle. Put it here.
  14. 02:07:065 - to 02:09:843 - : Idea : http://puu.sh/exjAj/17083d350a.jpg I tried to follow the vocals.
  15. 02:18:176 (9) - Delete slider, put circle here: 02:18:176 - move this 02:18:732 (1) - slider here: 02:18:454 - and change this 1/1 slider ends here: 02:18:870 - . Put circle here: 02:19:287 - It's better fits the vocals.
  16. 02:19:287 - to 02:20:398 - Make 1/3 part, follow the vocal. Timeline: http://puu.sh/exkej/1071349b8e.jpg This is good here. Really!
  17. 02:21:509 (8) - One circle better here: 02:21:509 - anmd create 1/1 slider here: 02:21:787 -
  18. 02:28:037 - Missing circle
  19. 02:34:843 (7) - Two circle better fits the drums/gitar.
  20. 02:37:065 (2,3,4) - Current concepts is not fit here. Replace it! Circle -> Circle -> Slider. Better fits the vocals, and drums. Timeline: http://puu.sh/exkJD/076af9c0c2.jpg
  21. 02:49:009 (9) - Change slider end here: 02:49:287 - because this vocal ends here, and put circle here: 02:49:565 -
  22. 02:51:509 (3) - Circle is better here: 02:51:509 - and put circles here: 02:51:787 - 02:51:926 -
  23. 03:02:898 (1,2) - Vocal killer. Remove reverse from 03:02:898 (1) - slider, put circle here: 03:03:732 - and 1/1 slider here: 03:04:009 - or 1/2 sliders here: 03:04:009 - 03:04:565 -
  24. 03:06:787 (8) - Vocal fix: This 1/1 slider not fit here. Change slider end here: 03:07:065 - and put circles here: 03:07:343 - 03:07:482 -
  25. 03:09:287 (3) - Vocal: Circle better here: 03:09:287 - , and put circles here: 03:09:565 - 03:09:704 -
  26. 03:38:454 (8,1,2) - I think, use 1/2 sliders here: 03:38:454 - 03:39:009 - . Better fits the vocal!
  27. 03:42:898 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Please, follow the vocal. Current conception is not good. Use similar: http://puu.sh/exm1l/85222b2229.jpg
  28. 03:56:232 (1,2,3) - Same as: 03:02:898 (1,2) - Vocal killer. Please, follow the vocal.
  29. 03:59:843 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Vocal... Timeline example: 03:56:232 - to 04:00:676 - : http://puu.sh/exmvV/ba2b45f066.jpg 04:01:232 - to 04:04:843 - : http://puu.sh/exmAl/de4f0256f3.jpg


Ok. Why ignore the vocals? I think enjoyable, if you not only focuses on the drums. This is hard difficulty, not "hard normal", and BPM is slow.

[Normal]

AIMod: Variable distance is unrankable. Fix it!

Examples:

00:19:565 (2,1) - = 1.0x
00:20:954 (1,2) - 0.60x
00:25:398 (1,2) - 0.60
....

Please use 1.0x distance snap.

00:27:620 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -

Rhythm is very tricky...

[*]00:27:620 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why don't follow the guitar? My idea: http://puu.sh/exouB/bf189ccb86.jpg Use this similar.
[*]02:10:954 (2,3,4,1) - Timeline: http://puu.sh/exoQ9/bcc456164e.jpg A little of vocal?

Ok, main problem the variable distance.

[Easy]

OK sufficiently easy. Good, no idea.

Good luck.
Xinchii
Hello ~ from queue :)

[Facil]
  1. Not thing I can found here.

[Intermedio]
  1. this diff have use same time point line with Dificil diff , many of them are unnecessary
    EX:
  2. 00:28:448 - useless green line in this diff.
  3. 00:29:009 - ^
  4. 00:36:232 - ^
  5. 00:36:509 - ^
    Check if they are all use.
    Sorry I point this out again , but really I think remove them or reset some new time point to fit with this diff will be more reasonable.
    Consider with this , it's only my recommendation.
  1. Hmm... 1/2 beat use 0.6x , and other use 1.0x ?
    I don't know if it will make normal player confused... or if it fit with rule?
    but at least , I think the veiw is clean.

[Dificil]
  1. 00:38:176(6) - suggest to set this slider straight , will better look with (5) in my veiw.
  2. 01:30:676(2,3,4,5) - try to set this a pentagon with (1)'s slider end ? like:

    I think it's more beautiful in veiw , also it's easy to keep your (5) on center line and (6)'s place symmetry with (4)
  3. 01:32:620(6) - 01:32:620(6) - you let 01:33:176 -'s beat to be empty , so may be set this slider to 2 note will have better play effect , like same you do at 02:43:732(7,8) - I think.
  4. 02:34:843(7) - Bend this slider down will be good look with (8) in my view.
  5. 02:40:676(5,1) - spacing uncentralized here ? check if is mistake.
  6. 03:01:509(7) - ^
  7. 03:14:287 - 03:16:509 - why leave this part empty ? don't consider to map it like previously similar part ? ---> 01:45:398 -
  8. 03:40:676(5) - little nazi , try to move this right to x:252|y:340 to be better blanket
  9. 03:51:509(10,1) - little nazi , try to set (1)'s slider's end at x:236|y:76 , more parallel with (10)

what language this song use? I just feel some interest about this :3
I'm few to listen song genre like this , but it's great relaxed song

Good luck ~!

Lust wrote:

For people who are concerned about the 1.0x and 0.6x spacing changes in the Intermedio difficulty, it should be fine. Xanandra used the changes throughout the map consistently so there should be no confusion here. The BPM is low enough and the patterns are definitely clear enough for players to be able to discern between them. It offers a logical step up in the difficulty from the Facil.
Okay , I learned a new
Lust
For people who are concerned about the 1.0x and 0.6x spacing changes in the Intermedio difficulty, it should be fine. Xanandra used the changes throughout the map consistently so there should be no confusion here. The BPM is low enough and the patterns are definitely clear enough for players to be able to discern between them. It offers a logical step up in the difficulty from the Facil.
Luvdic

Kazuya wrote:

[Normal]

AIMod: Variable distance is unrankable. Fix it!

Examples:

00:19:565 (2,1) - = 1.0x
00:20:954 (1,2) - 0.60x
00:25:398 (1,2) - 0.60
....

Please use 1.0x distance snap.

00:27:620 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -

Please, read Lust's post for this

Rhythm is very tricky...

[*]00:27:620 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Why don't follow the guitar? My idea: http://puu.sh/exouB/bf189ccb86.jpg Use this similar.
Hard to understand your screenshot since I dont have a base to compare your screen with current, as in, the screenshot doesnt provide the time. Anyways, I really like the way it is currently, so most probably there will be no changes.

[*]02:10:954 (2,3,4,1) - Timeline: http://puu.sh/exoQ9/bcc456164e.jpg A little of vocal?
Complaining about tricky rhythms and yet your suggesting me to make it even more complicated by suddenly following vocals...

Ok, main problem the variable distance.


Good luck.

Xinchii wrote:

Hello ~ from queue :)

[Intermedio]
[list][*]this diff have use same time point line with Dificil diff , many of them are unnecessary
EX:
[*]00:28:448 - useless green line in this diff.
[*]00:29:009 - ^
[*]00:36:232 - ^
[*]00:36:509 - ^
Check if they are all use.
I have already said it before, I'm very sloppy, and honestly, the extra green lines is not gonna cause ANY problem at all to the map, problem my occur while I'm trying to delete them, and while doing so make a mistake, and if I do a mistake, then a problem MIGHT actually happen, so I guess it's better not to do this, unless of course, someone that is very careful does for me ;)

Good luck ~!
Thanks for the mods!

And thanks Lust for your input!
Lally
#queue

[General]
  1. kiai is not consistent in the diffs


[Dificil o3o]
  1. 01:15:954 (8) - what about to change the flow like this?
  2. 02:44:287 - :/ missing circle hre add one >3<
  3. 03:06:787 (8) - ctrl+g


[Medio]
  1. 00:18:454 (1) - why are you starting 1/2 before the others diff?
  2. 00:19:565 (2,1) - personally i don't like this flow why don't you try to give another shape to 00:19:565 (2) - to have a better flow for the next object?
  3. 00:44:842 (4,1,2) - i explain everything with the immage:

    the flow is not good here


perfect map <3 good luck
Topic Starter
mancuso_JM_
Thanks for modding guys!

I'll fix your mods tomorrow, I've just came back from the beach and I'm a bit tired right now.

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Kazuya wrote:

Hello, from my Modding Queue. Sorry, my english is horrible. It's only ideas! Hey.

[Hard]

This song slow, AR7 better, because the objects is not dense. Used 7.5 for that reason I suppose xD. A lot of players will play this with DT due to the density of the map, and 7.5 fits better with that mode plus it doesn't work bad without modes either, so I'll leave it as it is.
  1. 00:40:815 - Put circle here. Strange, and deficient if there is no circle here. Please, emphasize the voice. There isn't any strong sound in this tick and in this particular pattern drums sounds higher in my opinion, so nope.
  2. 00:41:694 - 00:41:880 - Hmm. Make a 1/3 parts here. Let little variety. Put circles here: 00:41:694 - 00:41:880 - remove reverse from 00:41:787 (3) - slider, and move this slider here: 00:42:065 - Sincerely plays horrible to me :/. I prefer to keep this mix between vocals/guitar that provides a better gameplay.
    Timeline example: http://puu.sh/exfip/0e48d4995a.jpg
  3. 00:42:620 (6) - Same as. Make a 1/3 parts here. Change this slider end here: 00:42:991 - , and put circle here: 00:43:176 - A little of vocal. Timeline: http://puu.sh/exfvp/edc0242dd1.jpg This one sounds better but still weird for me during the gameplay.
  4. 00:45:954 (3,4) - Vocal killer. The vocal more pronounced: Put circle here: 00:45:954 - , and put 1/1 slider here: 00:46:232 - Timeline: http://puu.sh/exfN5/9e3ef237e3.jpg I think use my suggestion. Fixed this one.
  5. 00:54:843 (3,4,5,6,7) - I think this part little boring. There is opportunity! Follow the vocal: http://puu.sh/exgl3/559863f6ba.jpg This is 1/3 and 1/2 part! Take advantage of! I prefer to keep that in this way, it provides a good mix between vocals/guitar, it looks like you only follow vocals in your maps but I'm not that kind of mappers. Those 1/3 plays terrible in my personal point of view, and maybe is just this a personal like but since this is my map I'll do what I like, this map was also testplayed by others and the didn't argue about those 1/3, so yeah, prefer to don't touch them.
  6. 01:05:954 (5) - I think, two circle better fits the drums/guitar. Sure thing.
  7. 01:07:343 (1) - This reverse is not fit here. The vocal ends here: 01:07:898 - , the reverse slider is weird here. Please, remove reverse, and put circles here: 01:08:176 - 01:08:454 - Works for me, specially if you listen both guitar and vocals.
  8. 01:15:954 (8,1) - I think, follow the vocals. Put circle here: 01:15:954 - and put 1/1 slider here: 01:16:232 - Hmm.. I prefer to follow the instrumental here.
  9. 01:18:454 (5) - Same as 01:07:343 (1) - Remove reverse, and put circles here: 01:19:287 - 01:19:565 - I don't know what you're listening here, but this clearly said ''tris'' (in the first part of the slider) and ''te'' in the second part after the slider and this was what I tried to follow.
  10. 01:20:398 (7) - I think, two circle better fits the drums, ang guitars. If you don't like it: 01:19:843 (6) - =add once repeat (because vocal ends here 01:20:398 - ), and put circle here: 01:20:676 - Hmm.. I don't think so.
  11. 01:22:620 (3) - Hey, bit monotonous. Please, follow the vocal! Remove this slider, put circles here: 01:22:620 - 01:22:898 - 01:23:037 - Definetly I prefer to follow the instrumental here :/
  12. 01:34:009 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This part little vocal killer. Please, use this similar: http://puu.sh/exiLJ/961d8ab537.jpg (Timeline) Not exactly but I did something similar here.
  13. 01:40:815 - Missing circle. Put it here. Seriously you have to see what I'm trying to follow. In all these points where you suggested me to add a note I'm not trying to follow anything of this, plus they sound weird to me. What I tried to follow is that sound in the instrumental, and I emphasized it with those double finisher.
  14. 02:07:065 - to 02:09:843 - : Idea : http://puu.sh/exjAj/17083d350a.jpg I tried to follow the vocals. This is following the instrumental in a proper way if you ask me, notice I'm not that kind of mappers that focus on following just vocals. Specially in this song where vocals are not ''constant'', if I would do that the map would play really weird.
  15. 02:18:176 (9) - Delete slider, put circle here: 02:18:176 - move this 02:18:732 (1) - slider here: 02:18:454 - and change this 1/1 slider ends here: 02:18:870 - . Put circle here: 02:19:287 - It's better fits the vocals. Keeping this as well.
  16. 02:19:287 - to 02:20:398 - Make 1/3 part, follow the vocal. Timeline: http://puu.sh/exkej/1071349b8e.jpg This is good here. Really! Sorry for this words, but these 1/3 sucks for me. That kind of mixes between 1/3 and 1/2 plays really bad in my personal point of view, I've done something you are telling me in this map but it's not exactly the same because I used 1/3 in chorus and 1/2 in the rest not mixing it in the same pattern. I repeat this again, I'm not that kind of mappers that follow only vocals, and the vocals in this song doesn't go in a constant way, that's why I decided to use other things in the music, to make the map better in terms of gameplay.
  17. 02:21:509 (8) - One circle better here: 02:21:509 - anmd create 1/1 slider here: 02:21:787 - As you can notice, I'm following drums here, so nope.
  18. 02:28:037 - Missing circle I'm following the guitar here.
  19. 02:34:843 (7) - Two circle better fits the drums/gitar. Hmm.. I don't think so.
  20. 02:37:065 (2,3,4) - Current concepts is not fit here. Replace it! Circle -> Circle -> Slider. Better fits the vocals, and drums. Timeline: http://puu.sh/exkJD/076af9c0c2.jpg I don't agree with you in this point, personally this is following the guitar in a good way.
  21. 02:49:009 (9) - Change slider end here: 02:49:287 - because this vocal ends here, and put circle here: 02:49:565 - Definetly not, this slider is providing a great mix (in my opinion ofc) between instrumental and vocal. You can notice vocal ends exactly in 02:49:565 - where ''that sound'' in the instrumental appear.
  22. 02:51:509 (3) - Circle is better here: 02:51:509 - and put circles here: 02:51:787 - 02:51:926 - no thanks.
  23. 03:02:898 (1,2) - Vocal killer. Remove reverse from 03:02:898 (1) - slider, put circle here: 03:03:732 - and 1/1 slider here: 03:04:009 - or 1/2 sliders here: 03:04:009 - 03:04:565 - Fixed in a similar way, but following my criteria.
  24. 03:06:787 (8) - Vocal fix: This 1/1 slider not fit here. Change slider end here: 03:07:065 - and put circles here: 03:07:343 - 03:07:482 - Fit for me, as I explained before.
  25. 03:09:287 (3) - Vocal: Circle better here: 03:09:287 - , and put circles here: 03:09:565 - 03:09:704 - nope, explained before.
  26. 03:38:454 (8,1,2) - I think, use 1/2 sliders here: 03:38:454 - 03:39:009 - . Better fits the vocal!
  27. 03:42:898 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Please, follow the vocal. Current conception is not good. Use similar: http://puu.sh/exm1l/85222b2229.jpg
  28. 03:56:232 (1,2,3) - Same as: 03:02:898 (1,2) - Vocal killer. Please, follow the vocal.
  29. 03:59:843 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Vocal... Timeline example: 03:56:232 - to 04:00:676 - : http://puu.sh/exmvV/ba2b45f066.jpg 04:01:232 - to 04:04:843 - : http://puu.sh/exmAl/de4f0256f3.jpg


Ok. Why ignore the vocals? I think enjoyable, if you not only focuses on the drums. This is hard difficulty, not "hard normal", and BPM is slow.

[Easy]

OK sufficiently easy. Good, no idea.

Good luck.
Oh well, thanks for modding but seriously the next time check mapper style before to do a mod. It looks like you wanted to force your mapping style into my map, most of the things you suggested me doesn't fit with my style or plays really poor (like the 1/3 you suggested me).
So this is my recomendation for you, try to improve others maps by following their mapping style and not by forcing your style into others maps.
Once again, thanks anyway! :)

Xinchii wrote:

Hello ~ from queue :)Hey!

[Dificil]
  1. 00:38:176(6) - suggest to set this slider straight , will better look with (5) in my veiw. Hmm.. looks good for me, I'll keep it for now.
  2. 01:30:676(2,3,4,5) - try to set this a pentagon with (1)'s slider end ? like: Nice one, fixed.

    I think it's more beautiful in veiw , also it's easy to keep your (5) on center line and (6)'s place symmetry with (4)
  3. 01:32:620(6) - 01:32:620(6) - you let 01:33:176 -'s beat to be empty , so may be set this slider to 2 note will have better play effect , like same you do at 02:43:732(7,8) - I think. Vocals stop considerably, so having no objects is the best thing in my personal point of view.
  4. 02:34:843(7) - Bend this slider down will be good look with (8) in my view. Sure, I did something here.
  5. 02:40:676(5,1) - spacing uncentralized here ? check if is mistake. This was intentional, I wanted to emphasized the start of the chorus with a little spacing change.
  6. 03:01:509(7) - ^ Fixed this one.
  7. 03:14:287 - 03:16:509 - why leave this part empty ? don't consider to map it like previously similar part ? ---> 01:45:398 - Not really because drums sound lower than the previous part and I think this rhythmical break gives a better effect.
  8. 03:40:676(5) - little nazi , try to move this right to x:252|y:340 to be better blanket okie.
  9. 03:51:509(10,1) - little nazi , try to set (1)'s slider's end at x:236|y:76 , more parallel with (10) hmm.. k

what language this song use? I just feel some interest about this :3
I'm few to listen song genre like this , but it's great relaxed song Is a spanish song, and yeah is really relaxing c:

Good luck ~!
Thanks!

Lally wrote:

#queue

[General]
  1. kiai is not consistent in the diffs At least they are consistent in my difficultie, and this is the important imo. Anyway, let see what Xanandra says about this.


[Dificil o3o]
  1. 01:15:954 (8) - what about to change the flow like this? Sure, I did something similar
  2. 02:44:287 - :/ missing circle hre add one >3< Not really, as I said in other mod response the vocals stop considerably, so this empty place is the best if you ask me.
  3. 03:06:787 (8) - ctrl+g Hmm.. I think I've changed that before but oh well, done.


perfect map <3 good luck
Thanks a lot nyally!


Once again, Thanks a lot for modding guys!
Updated!
Luvdic

Lally wrote:

#queue

[General]
  1. kiai is not consistent in the diffs

I just moved it 1/2 earlier so it wouldnt start in the middle of a slider.

[Medio]

  1. 00:18:454 (1) - why are you starting 1/2 before the others diff?
    Why not? ;)
    On a more serious note though, considering how Ive been following the rhythm, starting it 1/2 earlier just seems more consistent with the rest of my diff.

  2. 00:19:565 (2,1) - personally i don't like this flow why don't you try to give another shape to 00:19:565 (2) - to have a better flow for the next object?
    Unfortunately, this is something that I seem to disagree with the majority of other mappers as in they say this flow is pretty unnatural, while I say that it is perfectly good
  3. 00:44:842 (4,1,2) - i explain everything with the immage:

    Sorry, not exactly sure what you mean even with the image...

    the flow is not good here


perfect map <3 good luck
Thanks for looking at it!
Pereira006
hi

[Facil]

Hitsound:

  1. 02:46:509 (3) - Missing Whistle in begin, I can see you have done pattern before and other diff, what i did explain in gameplay 00:49:843 (3)
  2. 03:04:287 (2) - ^ same also all diff's too


only this missing

Gameplay:

  1. 00:23:176 (3) - this really need NC you should know this level is "Facil" I mean level easy
  2. 00:23:176 (3) - ^ same
  3. 00:49:843 (3) - be honest, I'm confuse you style this diff, this is not NC, but if you listen this rhythm (vocal and beat) in 02:18:732 (1), that rhythm is same because the rhythm is repeat but in 02:18:732 (1) - is NC and in 00:49:843 (3) - is not nc why? missing? I just wanna make sure you style is "consistency"


only NC is missing.

[Intermedio]

Hitsound:

  1. 00:39:843 (2) - missing whistle, you have done pattern like in 02:08:732 (2), if you listen rhythm, they are repeat.
  2. 00:44:564 (3) - ^ same


Gameplay:

  1. 03:51:787 (T) - you don't wanna change time to in 03:52:065 ? to consistency other diff's ? and your pattern time kiai in 02:40:954
  2. 04:07:343 (1) - dunno why you put NC, because other pattern like in 03:51:787 (1,2,3,4,5), 03:56:232 (1,2,3) and more, you do put every NC is 3/1 but this in 04:07:343 (1) - is 2/1, remove NC


[Dificil]

Gameplay:

  1. 00:47:343 (1) - This no need NC, like you did pattern in 02:14:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) and more
  2. 00:52:065 (1) - ^ same
  3. 03:50:954 (7) - this isn't should be NC ? you have done pattern before

[]
The mapset look good, only some missing
Any question if you don't get it my english, pm me
Call me when you done, gonna put star
Luvdic

Pereira006 wrote:

hi

[Intermedio]

Hitsound:

  1. 00:39:843 (2) - missing whistle, you have done pattern like in 02:08:732 (2), if you listen rhythm, they are repeat.
  2. 00:44:564 (3) - ^ same

Changed some whistles here and there, should be more consistent now

Gameplay:

  1. 03:51:787 (T) - you don't wanna change time to in 03:52:065 ? to consistency other diff's ? and your pattern time kiai in 02:40:954
    Oops, actually, I changed kiai start of 02:40:954 because I dont believe in starting kiai in the middle of a slider
  2. 04:07:343 (1) - dunno why you put NC, because other pattern like in 03:51:787 (1,2,3,4,5), 03:56:232 (1,2,3) and more, you do put every NC is 3/1 but this in 04:07:343 (1) - is 2/1, remove NC
    Removed
http://puu.sh/foN2J/f88e8e9719.osu

And thanks for the mod!
Topic Starter
mancuso_JM_

Pereira006 wrote:

hi

[Facil]

Hitsound:

  1. 02:46:509 (3) - Missing Whistle in begin, I can see you have done pattern before and other diff, what i did explain in gameplay 00:49:843 (3) Fixed
  2. 03:04:287 (2) - ^ same also all diff's too Fixed and fixed the hitsounding in Dificil for consistency.


only this missing

Gameplay:

  1. 00:23:176 (3) - this really need NC you should know this level is "Facil" I mean level easy
  2. 00:23:176 (3) - ^ same well, added more NCs at the beginning, and I think you mean 00:32:065 - (?).. You've repeated 00:23:176 - twice xDD
  3. 00:49:843 (3) - be honest, I'm confuse you style this diff, this is not NC, but if you listen this rhythm (vocal and beat) in 02:18:732 (1), that rhythm is same because the rhythm is repeat but in 02:18:732 (1) - is NC and in 00:49:843 (3) - is not nc why? missing? I just wanna make sure you style is "consistency" Oops, that was my fault. Fixed, and rechecked everything in case I've missed something like that in the whole difficulty, I think the comboing is correct now.


only NC is missing.

[Dificil]

Gameplay:

  1. 00:47:343 (1) - This no need NC, like you did pattern in 02:14:287 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) and more
  2. 00:52:065 (1) - ^ same Hmm.. k
  3. 03:50:954 (7) - this isn't should be NC ? you have done pattern before Hmm.. yeah, generally I emphasized drums with new combos, so this makes sense. Added.

[]
The mapset look good, only some missing
Any question if you don't get it my english, pm me
Call me when you done, gonna put star
Thanks a lot Pereira!
Updated everything!
Pereira006
Alright, everthing look good now

bubble

good luck!
Gabe
It's been a while since I've done this.


Qualified!
Topic Starter
mancuso_JM_
Thanks a lot Gabe! :D

Give him kudos because we fixed some spacing in Easy (but I lost the log, because I close the game in a moment and I forgot to save the log :c).
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