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Within Temptation - The Unforgiving (Bonus Tracks)

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Armin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on venerdì 12 settembre 2014 at 19.47.56

Artist: Within Temptation
Title: The Unforgiving (Bonus Tracks)
Tags: don't wanna dont last dance empty eyes unforgiving sharon den adel ruud metal rock symphonic orchestra
BPM: 113
Filesize: 13166kb
Play Time: 08:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Empty Eyes (4,85 stars, 501 notes)
  2. I Don't Wanna (4,77 stars, 687 notes)
  3. Marathon (5,09 stars, 1188 notes)
Download: Within Temptation - The Unforgiving (Bonus Tracks)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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The Unforgiving returns. For the Last Dance.
Akiyama Mizuki
Wow.
Wisakedjak


Sieg

bbj0920 wrote:

Wow.
Quashqai
536852 offset - 172 BPM
Something like this
Kodora
oh great!
Kritikally
[Timing]

00:08:607 - 113bpm
05:08:770 - 90bpm
08:56:825 - 86bpm

[General]
HP drain too heavy, drop HP to 6-7. Not enough events early in the song to sustain the drain at HP8.

[Map]
00:40:199(6)- This slider is interesting... can you extend the loop points so it's more visible to be a loop?
03:52:943(7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15)- I can't tell whether the guitar is playing in sixteenth or twenty-fourth notes. As everything else is the song is based on 1/4, might be best to use sixteenth notes for the stream as the guitar is just going erratic with no discernable rhythm, if not trading it out for a wacky slider.
04:25:730(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)- Perhaps invert 1,2,3,4 with 5,6,7,8 so the spacing gets wider as opposed to narrower as the combo goes on?
04:36:748 (6,7)- Reverse selection for 6 and move 7 to 280,344 (flip 7 vertically) for flow?
07:10:122 (1)- Exceptionally ugly slider. If you need it that long, maybe make it more of a symmetrical S?

[Comments]
I love Sharon den Adel. There's just something about her voice...
Pretty up a lot of those sliders (it's not 2010 anymore) and think about the flow a bit more and you're definitely on to something here. I just pointed out blatantly obvious things, the rest I'll leave to your eye test.

[Other]
Threw a star your way. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Armin
That ugly slider is supposed to be a Horus'eye http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1942654
Was it bad because of its shape or because it was not recognizable as an eye?
Kritikally
It's playable, just looks rather odd -- I didn't/don't recognize it.
Kyuuten

bbj0920 wrote:

Wow.
Yuukari-Banteki
Why the hell am I modding again...

00:08:606 - might want to reduce the hitvolume in this timing section - I can barely hear the music over the circles. 70-80% seems to be good for me.
00:16:438 (7) - I'm not entirely sure why you're using 1/6 when 1/4 follows the music, and tbh it sounds pretty awkward
Combo colors 6 and 7 are similar enough to each other that I missed the first transition between them. Maybe make 7 a bit darker?
00:34:093 - hitvolume seems a bit loud in this section too.... 60% works for me
00:37:014 (6) - not entirely confident with how this fits into the music. It doesn't start on a strong beat of the lyrics and it doesn't end on a strong beat of the instrumental.
01:15:244 (2) - I can't really tell if the bottom half is supposed to be curved or not...either make it curved enough to look intentional or straight enough to look intentional
01:23:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I like this
01:54:137 (6) - I honestly feels like it flows better without this note but that's up to you
01:54:801 - hitvolume -> 75% so that you can crescendo 02:43:916 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3)?
03:40:465 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - the huge breaks feel really awkward. I realize that you're mapping to the cymbals in the music but the pauses are just too much...either make one long break or map something in the middle
04:32:235 (4) - might flow a little better if the start of this slider was a horizontal flip of the start of 2

05:08:789 - hitvolume -> 70%
05:26:455 - maybe put a note or two in this big blank space?
05:29:122 - ^
05:47:622 (5) - not entirely sure what part of the music its supposed to be starting on
06:12:122 (4,1,2) - its a little weird to close-stream notes that aren't equidistant time-wise from each other
07:10:122 (1,2) - erm....its obvious that you put a lot of thought into this slider art here. The problem is that especially following out of 07:06:455 (1,2,3,4,5,6), the speed up is jarring and I hate to say this but whatever you were trying to draw is either some really common secret symbol I'm not aware
of or is going to fly over the heads of most of the players. While I respect that it might have meaning to you...it doesn't have meaning to anyone else
07:12:788 (3) - place a note here?
07:12:788 - should probably turn off kiai time for the break. Although I'm also really not sure at all why your break is more than 1 minute long.
08:43:038 (1) - hitvolume -> 40-50%
ah, I understand the break now, you aren't finished with the map yet :) Well, good luck and I hope this helps
FlobuFlobs
That spacing while kiai dood

wanna HT this q____q
Gordon123
make sliders more beautifully!
00:37:014 (6) - wow
00:40:199 (6) - ^
Topic Starter
Armin

Gordon123 wrote:

make sliders more beautifully!
00:37:014 (6) - wow
00:40:199 (6) - ^
I gave to you a kudosu 'cause of the ircMod (will post the log later)

Also guys, thank you for your moddings. I will edit my changes later, when i will finish Empty Eyes.
Gordon123
IRC mod
21:40 Gordon123: Hi~ :D
21:40 Armin: Hey
21:40 Gordon123: how are you? :З ^^
21:41 Armin: i'm fine, thx
21:41 Armin: what about you?
21:42 Gordon123: i'm good
21:42 Gordon123: you too thanks./^_^
21:44 Gordon123: http://puu.sh/bh9sX/b969fd690a.png < here in this diff "name"
21:44 Gordon123: maybe bag??
21:44 *Gordon123 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/487028 Within Temptation - The Unforgiving (Bonus Tracks) []]
21:44 Gordon123: owo
21:45 Armin: hmmm i think i'm gonna remove that
21:45 Gordon123: ok
21:45 Armin: thank you (:
21:45 Gordon123: ))
21:46 Gordon123: 01:21:350 (9) - is not good slider,please correct his!!
21:47 Gordon123: 01:54:801 (1) - why new combo owo(sorry idk)
21:51 Gordon123: 02:35:155 (4,5,6) - ??
21:51 Gordon123: correct points
21:51 Armin: hm?
21:52 Gordon123: yeah~
21:52 Gordon123: 02:42:058 (8) - it's good?
21:52 Gordon123: owo
21:54 Gordon123: but all is very good
21:54 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
21:54 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
21:55 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
21:55 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
21:56 Gordon123: you make this map how apruve > http://puu.sh/bhauY/e886b4a49c.png
21:56 Gordon123: sorry bad english
21:59 Gordon123: please correct points in sliders! >^^<
22:00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
22:04 Armin: thank u and don't worry for the english. :)
22:04 Gordon123: you make this map how apruve > http://puu.sh/bhauY/e886b4a49c.png *
22:04 Gordon123: ??yes
22:05 Gordon123: i think what "yes"
22:05 Gordon123: ^^
22:05 Armin: yeah
22:05 Gordon123: it's good)) good luck
22:06 Gordon123: little IRS mod?! "this" haha
Arnold0
Please, can you give me what's the name of the 3rd song ?? I already know the two other ones, but I don't have this one and I would like to get it :O (Because since I discovered Within Temptation with your realy long marathon I realy like to listen to them)

Also please can you reduce spacing during KIAI (Especialy the 1st one) and make HP drain -1 ?

What I did with HP 6 (Couldn't pass with HP 7 I'm too noob so i edited to put HP 6)

Yep I play realy badly V:
Topic Starter
Armin
yeah, the last song is called "The last dance".
I will reduce the HP drain, but I like the spacing in that way. Also it's gonna increase in the last chorus of Empty Eyes.
I'm so glad I made you know Within Temptation,that's why I like this game :)
Arnold0
Thanks ! ;)
Also get all my stars I won't need them as I'm too bad to rank maps :P
Gordon123
Please : HP -1 ^^
Topic Starter
Armin
decreased (:
Stefan
HERE WE GO AGAIN
Derekku
oh my god YES

EDIT: Shouldn't Empty Eyes be last? https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/unfor ... d418710473
pawpads
kk, some timing points -- DO NOT KUDOSU, this is WIP. Wanted to update to let ppl know, working on this...
timing new red point every measure, this is rough. Will complete the rest, need some more time.

Red points so far...
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