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Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet

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Tarrasky
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 3 de janeiro de 2015 at 11:55:08

Artist: Hasegawa Tomoki
Title: Zetsubou no Minuet
Source: 俗・さよなら絶望先生
Tags: Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei original soundtrack
BPM: 120
Filesize: 4272kb
Play Time: 01:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2,98 stars, 215 notes)
  2. Minuet (4 stars, 310 notes)
  3. Normal (1,57 stars, 106 notes)
Download: Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Nekotashi
Timing sections (how should looks like offset in my opinion)
First - 1120 offset
Second - 10 116 offset

Difficult:
Minuet -
00:37:114 (1,2,3,4) - There's too big Distance Snap for this and it's unrythm
01:00:112 (1,2,3,4) and 01:01:237 (1,2,3,4) same like up
EzOzu
Just played the hard diff three times in a row.

I'd decrease the hitsound volumes by a bit, they sound a bit too loud compared to the song. At least I wanted to turn the song volume up but then the hitsounds would start to hurt, especially the whistle ;-)

I also kept missing the jump from 8 to 1 after the complex pattern at ~ 00:46.
In the first playthrough I just didn't see it quickly enough, after that I kept pressing too early because "by intuition" I wanted to be faster after the pattern and it felt like the song would need me to click faster.

Other than that I liked the diff a lot. Can't say much about the insane.

Only thing left to say is that the background picture makes it look somewhat "cornered in". It's a cool picture but somewhat low quality and the fact that it's so narrow gives the map a cramped feeling.
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

Nekotashi wrote:

Timing sections (how should looks like offset in my opinion)
First - 1120 offset
Second - 10 116 offset
Fix timing sections, sounds better now


Difficult:
Minuet -
00:37:114 (1,2,3,4) - There's too big Distance Snap for this and it's unrythm
01:00:112 (1,2,3,4) and 01:01:237 (1,2,3,4) same like up
i`m not sure what i put in local, for now, I'll leave as is

ty for mod >///<
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

EzOzu wrote:

Just played the hard diff three times in a row.

I'd decrease the hitsound volumes by a bit, they sound a bit too loud compared to the song. At least I wanted to turn the song volume up but then the hitsounds would start to hurt, especially the whistle ;-)

I also kept missing the jump from 8 to 1 after the complex pattern at ~ 00:46.
In the first playthrough I just didn't see it quickly enough, after that I kept pressing too early because "by intuition" I wanted to be faster after the pattern and it felt like the song would need me to click faster.

Other than that I liked the diff a lot. Can't say much about the insane.

Only thing left to say is that the background picture makes it look somewhat "cornered in". It's a cool picture but somewhat low quality and the fact that it's so narrow gives the map a cramped feeling.
i like the hard diff

I lowered a bit the volume of hitsounds, I think this more pleasant now
I LOVE THIS PICTURE, BUT i dont find the same image w/ better quality, then I will do some animated designs
I had this idea only now, so I need some time, so wait

ty for mod >//////<
Nekotashi
Ok, now what i mean when you have 00:37:114 (1,2,3,4), 01:00:112 (1,2,3,4) and 01:01:237 (1,2,3,4) - look at picture down here
As you can see you have sliders starting in Red and ending between blue and red - it can't be like this.It should looks like starting in red and ending in blue.How to do it? Go to timing (not in black background, a bit higher) and on 00:37:114 (1,2,3,4) minute click "Add inherting point" then go to "Timing" and set up slider velocity multiper to 0,75 and you should create a bit free space for sliders remake.Now change slider end like this:

And make a bit free space for remake sliders:

Now copy first slider and paste in time like this:

As you can see now, sliders have same rythm like circles on right side.
Now i sugest you to put sliders like this:

and 4th slider


Ah, before i forget - change bpm from120,1 to 120 because no one song is using unstandard bpm like this one (i think)
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

Nekotashi wrote:

Ok, now what i mean when you have 00:37:114 (1,2,3,4), 01:00:112 (1,2,3,4) and 01:01:237 (1,2,3,4) - look at picture down here
As you can see you have sliders starting in Red and ending between blue and red - it can't be like this.It should looks like starting in red and ending in blue.How to do it? Go to timing (not in black background, a bit higher) and on 00:37:114 (1,2,3,4) minute click "Add inherting point" then go to "Timing" and set up slider velocity multiper to 0,75 and you should create a bit free space for sliders remake.Now change slider end like this:

And make a bit free space for remake sliders:

Now copy first slider and paste in time like this:

As you can see now, sliders have same rythm like circles on right side.
Now i sugest you to put sliders like this:

and 4th slider


Ah, before i forget - change bpm from120,1 to 120 because no one song is using unstandard bpm like this one (i think)
i like this form to make this sliderjumps, but at the moment i will put 1.5x and fix the problem about the slider ending between the timer
I will keep your opinion for if need lower the difficult :) :) :) :) :)

ok, bpm 120
:) :) :) :)
-ScarIet
Good Beatmap is well synchronized, but see some parts of it on hard since the beginning is a bit confusing.
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

C h e n wrote:

Good Beatmap is well synchronized, but see some parts of it on hard since the beginning is a bit confusing.

Agradeco se me mostrar as partes confusas :) :) :) :)
kristi71111
From #modreqs:
general stuff only:
General

SPOILER
Mybe move preview point to 00:46:366 -
Consider adding Tomoki Hasegawa to the tags (He's the composer for the song. source : (http://vgmdb.net/album/30141)
Letterboxing is not allowed in taiko (disable it )
Disable widescreen support since u have no story board
Bitrate is over 192 kb/s (not rankable) here have a 192 kb/s one : http://puu.sh/bFhjW/95ea52d57e.mp3
Background images must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3, 1366x768 pixels for 16:9. Although 1366x768 (16:9) is recommended.
I made your images into 16:9 and I think it looks better u can use them if u want:
1st image :
http://puu.sh/bFhzS/008f894cdc.jpg
2nd image :
http://puu.sh/bFhAH/979fc01af3.jpg
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

kristi71111 wrote:

From #modreqs:
general stuff only:
General

SPOILER
Mybe move preview point to 00:46:366 -
Consider adding Tomoki Hasegawa to the tags (He's the composer for the song. source : (http://vgmdb.net/album/30141)
Letterboxing is not allowed in taiko (disable it )
Disable widescreen support since u have no story board
Bitrate is over 192 kb/s (not rankable) here have a 192 kb/s one : http://puu.sh/bFhjW/95ea52d57e.mp3
Background images must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3, 1366x768 pixels for 16:9. Although 1366x768 (16:9) is recommended.
I made your images into 16:9 and I think it looks better u can use them if u want:
1st image :
http://puu.sh/bFhzS/008f894cdc.jpg
2nd image :
http://puu.sh/bFhAH/979fc01af3.jpg

All fix, thanks a lot :) :) :)
Fenrir
E ai!

Minuet
00:35:116 (1) - Seria ótimo se tu juntasse essa última nota com o single tap longo anterior à ela, ou colocasse de baixo da 00:34:991 (8) -
00:36:116 (1) - Hitfinish, não deixará o hitfinish da primeira nota dessa timing section vazia.
00:34:491 (4,5) - Não sei se era a tua intenção deixar a stream com essas duas notas assim, mas me parece que elas estão meio fora do restante das notas 01:02:116 (1) - Sugiro isto ao invés de como está, pois eu acho que o mapa fica "feio" com uma stream tendo uma nota separada do restante. Just my opinion.

Sugestão de hitsounds


00:31:116 (4) - add hitfinish
00:36:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:38:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:40:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:44:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:48:616 (5) - add hitwhistle
00:49:616 (5) - add hitwhistle
00:52:616 (5) - add hitwhistle
00:53:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
00:56:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:58:116 (1) - add hitfinish
01:00:116 (1) - add hitfinish
01:04:116 (1) - add hitfinish
01:08:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:09:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:12:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:13:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:33:116 (3) - add hitfinish

Hard
00:03:871 (8) - tire o hitwhistle e coloque aqui 00:04:121 (9) -
00:12:449 (2) - Não vejo necessidade dessa curva no slider.
00:30:866 (2) - mude o beat snao divisor para 1/8 e faça um slider com reverse arrow que ocupe 6 ticks
01:04:117 (4) - add hitfinish
01:30:116 (1) - Isto seria interessante, tornaria o fim menos monótono.

Por enquanto foi isto, gostei muito do estilo do mapa, principalmente a diff Minuet, espero que seja rankeada, boa sorte!
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

Tio Fenrir wrote:

E ai!

Minuet
00:35:116 (1) - Seria ótimo se tu juntasse essa última nota com o single tap longo anterior à ela, ou colocasse de baixo da 00:34:991 (8) -
00:36:116 (1) - Hitfinish, não deixará o hitfinish da primeira nota dessa timing section vazia.
00:34:491 (4,5) - Não sei se era a tua intenção deixar a stream com essas duas notas assim, mas me parece que elas estão meio fora do restante das notas 01:02:116 (1) - Sugiro isto ao invés de como está, pois eu acho que o mapa fica "feio" com uma stream tendo uma nota separada do restante. Just my opinion.

Sugestão de hitsounds


00:31:116 (4) - add hitfinish
00:36:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:38:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:40:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:44:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:48:616 (5) - add hitwhistle
00:49:616 (5) - add hitwhistle
00:52:616 (5) - add hitwhistle
00:53:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
00:56:116 (1) - add hitfinish
00:58:116 (1) - add hitfinish
01:00:116 (1) - add hitfinish
01:04:116 (1) - add hitfinish
01:08:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:09:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:12:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:13:616 (4) - add hitwhistle
01:33:116 (3) - add hitfinish

Hard
00:03:871 (8) - tire o hitwhistle e coloque aqui 00:04:121 (9) -
00:12:449 (2) - Não vejo necessidade dessa curva no slider.
00:30:866 (2) - mude o beat snao divisor para 1/8 e faça um slider com reverse arrow que ocupe 6 ticks
01:04:117 (4) - add hitfinish
01:30:116 (1) - Isto seria interessante, tornaria o fim menos monótono.

Por enquanto foi isto, gostei muito do estilo do mapa, principalmente a diff Minuet, espero que seja rankeada, boa sorte!


Gostei muito dos seus mods, agradeco ^^ :) :) :)
ghm12
Eu nunca moddei taiko na minha vida, então só vou dar umas sugestões, ok?
D = Big Don / d = Don
K = Big Katsu / k = katsu

É bem provável que eu bote alguma coisa que não tem no mapa, porque eu sou muito burro pra moddar, então se tiver ignore

Kantan
00:19:116 (1) - Tira o Finish, acho que não precisa
00:21:117 (1) - ^
00:26:116 (1) - D aqui para manter ritmo
00:58:117 (1) - D ^
01:10:116 (1) - D aqui, pois nos outros kiais tem
01:26:116 (1) - Tira Finish, acho que não precisa
01:27:116 (1) - ^
01:26:866 (2) - Bota um k pra ficar que nem o começo

Bela diff, devo ter deixado algo passar ou ter deixado dificil demais pra Kantan, mas não sei moddar ;_;

Futsuu
00:19:116 (1) - k aqui, pois a próxima que é mesmo ritmo também acaba com ele
00:40:116 (1) - Tira o Finish, achei meio desnecessário
00:45:116 (1) - ^
01:05:116 (1) - ^

Eu devo ter deixado passar muita coisa, ainda mais dos finishs, sry

Oni
00:17:866 (1) - k ficou mais legal pra mim
00:23:991 (1) - Tira essa notinha, pra mim ficou mais legal, se remover coloca a próxima como k
00:25:366 (1) - Pra mim essa nota ser k ficou melhor
00:30:116 (1) - De acordo com Taiko Ranking, em fim de stream só pode ter finish se for a cor contrária a ultima nota, então D aqui
00:34:117 (1) - Sem D aqui pelo Ranking Criteria :/
00:38:117 (1) - Definitivamente não pode finish em meio de stream, então d aqui (afs peppy)
00:39:866 (1) - Pra mim um k ficou mais legal
00:44:616 (1) - k aqui?
00:44:866 (1) - ^
00:46:116 (1) - K aqui
00:54:116 (1) - Mesma coisa do 00:38:117 (1)-, d ficou mais legal pra mim
00:58:116 (1) - ^, deixa um d
00:59:866 (1) - Se usar minha sugestão do 00:39:866 (1) -, d aqui
01:02:116 (1) - D aqui?
01:06:116 (1) - Mudar pra K por causa da ultima nota
01:17:116 (1) - Sem finish aqui, no começo não tem
01:22:116 (1) - D aqui
01:26:115 (1) - D para igualar com o início

Sim eu tirei quase todos os finishs da Oni, mas é que não pode finish em stream ;_;

Espero que seja rank, boa sorte ~
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

ghm12 wrote:

Eu nunca moddei taiko na minha vida, então só vou dar umas sugestões, ok?
D = Big Don / d = Don
K = Big Katsu / k = katsu

É bem provável que eu bote alguma coisa que não tem no mapa, porque eu sou muito burro pra moddar, então se tiver ignore

Kantan
00:19:116 (1) - Tira o Finish, acho que não precisa ok
00:21:117 (1) - ^ ok
00:26:116 (1) - D aqui para manter ritmo ok
00:58:117 (1) - D ^ ok
01:10:116 (1) - D aqui, pois nos outros kiais tem ok
01:26:116 (1) - Tira Finish, acho que não precisa ok
01:27:116 (1) - ^ ok
01:26:866 (2) - Bota um k pra ficar que nem o começo ok

Bela diff, devo ter deixado algo passar ou ter deixado dificil demais pra Kantan, mas não sei moddar ;_;
; , ; ficou bom o mod

Futsuu
00:19:116 (1) - k aqui, pois a próxima que é mesmo ritmo também acaba com ele ok
00:40:116 (1) - Tira o Finish, achei meio desnecessário ok
00:45:116 (1) - ^ ok
01:05:116 (1) - ^ ok

Eu devo ter deixado passar muita coisa, ainda mais dos finishs, sry
tirei os finishs nos finais das streams, thank you

Oni
00:17:866 (1) - k ficou mais legal pra mim ok
00:23:991 (1) - Tira essa notinha, pra mim ficou mais legal, se remover coloca a próxima como k ok
00:25:366 (1) - Pra mim essa nota ser k ficou melhor ok
00:30:116 (1) - De acordo com Taiko Ranking, em fim de stream só pode ter finish se for a cor contrária a ultima nota, então D aqui ok
00:34:117 (1) - Sem D aqui pelo Ranking Criteria :/ ok
00:38:117 (1) - Definitivamente não pode finish em meio de stream, então d aqui (afs peppy) ok
00:39:866 (1) - Pra mim um k ficou mais legal ok
00:44:616 (1) - k aqui? ok
00:44:866 (1) - ^ ok
00:46:116 (1) - K aqui ok
00:54:116 (1) - Mesma coisa do 00:38:117 (1)-, d ficou mais legal pra mim ok
00:58:116 (1) - ^, deixa um d ok
00:59:866 (1) - Se usar minha sugestão do 00:39:866 (1) -, d aqui ok
01:02:116 (1) - D aqui? ok
01:06:116 (1) - Mudar pra K por causa da ultima nota ok
01:17:116 (1) - Sem finish aqui, no começo não tem ok
01:22:116 (1) - D aqui ok
01:26:115 (1) - D para igualar com o início ok

Sim eu tirei quase todos os finishs da Oni, mas é que não pode finish em stream ;_;
acho que usei todos os seus moddes `-` gostei bastante ;D

Espero que seja rank, boa sorte ~
agradeco :) :) :) :) :)
[ -Midnight- ]
Você bem que poderia colocar uma dificuldade entre Hard e Minuet, mais de resto o mapa está ótimo. :)
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

[ -Midnight- ] wrote:

Você bem que poderia colocar uma dificuldade entre Hard e Minuet, mais de resto o mapa está ótimo. :)



Se alguem quiser moddar um insane, eu nao me importaria, mas no momento nao penso em fazer um, agradeco o elogio :) :) :) :) :)
Vone
Hi! I decided to mod this map! :)

OVERALL
The tempo or the offset on the map is not propably right! You should change it as fast as you can!

NORMAL
00:27:866 (3,4,5,6) - I suggest you switch it into sliders. I think it will be better. You can also add a reverse arrow if you want.
01:19:866 (4,5,6,7) - ^
01:23:866 (4,5,6,7) - ^
HARD
00:07:120 (1) - Off new combo
00:42:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - It might be difficult for players, who plays hard difficulty. I suggest you to change it a little a bit at least.
00:52:116 (1) - Useless spinner
MINUET
00:51:616 (7) - Offscreen object
00:54:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - TAKE A LOOK AT IT! Slow it down to 25% and you will hear, that especially on streams objects aren't snapped right to the tempo. MUST CHANGE!

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR MAP! :)
Forsaiken
NORMAL

Overall Dificulty = 4

HARD

00:16:866 (4) - 00:17:866 (8) - São notas forçadas, tire elas e o 00:16:117 (1,2,3) - 00:17:117 (5,6,7) - Use distance alternados, nesses 2 combos ficara mt bom.


01:26:866 (2,3,4) - Esse combinho, por mais que esteticamente esteja perfeito, ta com um distance mt op pro seu mapa.
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

Vone wrote:

Hi! I decided to mod this map! :)

OVERALL
The tempo or the offset on the map is not propably right! You should change it as fast as you can!

NORMAL
00:27:866 (3,4,5,6) - I suggest you switch it into sliders. I think it will be better. You can also add a reverse arrow if you want. sounds better, ok fix
01:19:866 (4,5,6,7) - ^ ^
01:23:866 (4,5,6,7) - ^ ^
HARD
00:07:120 (1) - Off new combo ok
00:42:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - It might be difficult for players, who plays hard difficulty. I suggest you to change it a little a bit at least.
00:52:116 (1) - Useless spinner ok, fix
MINUET
00:51:616 (7) - Offscreen object
00:54:116 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - TAKE A LOOK AT IT! Slow it down to 25% and you will hear, that especially on streams objects aren't snapped right to the tempo. MUST CHANGE! new offset, maybe i fix this ^^

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR MAP! :)
Nice mod, really thanks :) :) :) :)
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

Forsaiken wrote:

NORMAL

Overall Dificulty = 4 bem lembrado, vlw ^^

HARD

00:16:866 (4) - 00:17:866 (8) - São notas forçadas, tire elas e o 00:16:117 (1,2,3) - 00:17:117 (5,6,7) - Use distance alternados, nesses 2 combos ficara mt bom. fiz algo que acho que ficou esteticamente mais bonito


01:26:866 (2,3,4) - Esse combinho, por mais que esteticamente esteja perfeito, ta com um distance mt op pro seu mapa.
ok, coloquei tudo junto, acho que ta melhor


Vlw pelo mod ^^ ajudou bastante :) :) :) :) :) :)
Akyuu
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Taiko Oni
so moddei oni pq n manjo de eazy e tals

00:09:176 (1) - Don

01:21:803 (2) - uma nota aqui, um don
01:25:803 (2) - ^

Timing erradão eu acho..
BPM 120,000 ... ta certo
offset ta errado, muda de 10178 pra10136
e "snapeia" (do verbo, arrumar o snap) todas as notas de 00:10:136 até 01:26:136
srry se eu tiver errado mas tenta.. fica mais certo, a menos q, meu pc teja doido


e muda o snap dessas 3 notas:
01:26:803 (1) - >> 01:26:886
01:26:928 (1) - >> 01:27:011
01:27:053 (1) - >> 01:27:136

vai no #modhelp pra ter certeza se pode fazer os spiners assim como vc fez, terminar um e iniciar no mesmo tick".. pq talvez n

e compacta o audio pq ta com bitrate alto, compacta pra 192kbps pra ficar daora
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

jadson128 wrote:

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Taiko Oni
so moddei oni pq n manjo de eazy e tals

00:09:176 (1) - Don

01:21:803 (2) - uma nota aqui, um don
01:25:803 (2) - ^

Timing erradão eu acho..
BPM 120,000 ... ta certo
offset ta errado, muda de 10178 pra10136
e "snapeia" (do verbo, arrumar o snap) todas as notas de 00:10:136 até 01:26:136
srry se eu tiver errado mas tenta.. fica mais certo, a menos q, meu pc teja doido


e muda o snap dessas 3 notas:
01:26:803 (1) - >> 01:26:886
01:26:928 (1) - >> 01:27:011
01:27:053 (1) - >> 01:27:136

vai no #modhelp pra ter certeza se pode fazer os spiners assim como vc fez, terminar um e iniciar no mesmo tick".. pq talvez n

e compacta o audio pq ta com bitrate alto, compacta pra 192kbps pra ficar daora
Vlw pelo mod, foi de grande ajuda ^^
Eu nao sei compactar o arquivo pra 192 kbps D; se vc puder fazer isso pra mim ficarei mt grato
ghm12

Tarrasky wrote:

Vlw pelo mod, foi de grande ajuda ^^
Eu nao sei compactar o arquivo pra 192 kbps D; se vc puder fazer isso pra mim ficarei mt grato
Tem alguns programas que fazem isso, acho que o aTube Catcher é um deles

"No two hitobjects on the same tick (osu!mania game mode is an exception). This includes hit circles, starts and ends of sliders, and starts and ends of spinners."
Então não pode os spinners começando e terminando no mesmo, precisa ter um intervalinho de 1/4
Septembre
Artist name : 長谷川智樹

Name of the song : 絶望のメヌエット

Overal Difficulty of Minuet is too low imo, should be 6 or higher

(no kudo)


Edit : I've don't seen that the original name was added, sorry
Secretpipe
Only took a glance at Minuet diff , it's pretty nice o/
Topic Starter
Tarrasky

Septembre wrote:

Artist name : 長谷川智樹

Name of the song : 絶望のメヌエット

Overal Difficulty of Minuet is too low imo, should be 6 or higher

(no kudo)


Edit : I've don't seen that the original name was added, sorry
No problem ^^ thanks for attention
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