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V.K - Wings of Piano [OsuMania]

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cjj490168650
8 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
cjj490168650
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2014年8月9日 at 18:39:01

Artist: V.K
Title: Wings of Piano
Source: Deemo
Tags: Deemo
BPM: 84
Filesize: 2451kb
Play Time: 02:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Concert - 8Key (3.42 stars, 830 notes)
  2. Performance - 7Key (1.9 stars, 475 notes)
  3. Practice - 5Key (1.6 stars, 319 notes)
  4. Warm up - 4Key (0.92 stars, 115 notes)
Download: V.K - Wings of Piano
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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im very sorry but i must give up this song temporarily because im not mature enough to make this song
ill be back
Last edited by cjj490168650 , edited 2 times in total.
fergas
769 posts
Joined August 2013
fergas
Idk. Once i wroked with this song.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/142388 timing ;z
shionelove
1,521 posts
Joined September 2010
shionelove
Hi~from queue
Here's my mod
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu!mania_Ranking_Criteria
If you aim ranked,you should make keyspread(at least 3diffs for each Keys)
IMO,4K and 7K is popular,so I mod 4K and 7K diff~

column 1234 1234567

mod
[General]
why BPM changed?confuse how to set hi-speed

[Warm up]
change hitsound soft
00:15:341 (15341|2) - move to 00:15:519 - following 00:12:662 (12662|2) -
00:26:234 (26234|1) - move to 4
00:33:555 (33555|1) - change short(hard for EZ)
00:34:269 (34269|2,37127|1) - recommend like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1906464(easy)
01:01:412 (61412|3) - change short and 01:02:127 - add
01:19:269 - add
01:45:696 - 01:47:108 - 01:48:519 - ^
01:52:755 - ^
01:58:755 (118755|2) - why pattern changed?

[Performance]
change hitsound soft
00:12:662 (12662|3) - move to 1 or 2 or 3
00:15:341 (15341|4,15341|5,15519|3,15519|4) - spread like 35 35
00:17:722 (17722|2,19031|4) - on blue line
00:20:460 (20460|2,20936|0) - mistake
00:28:198 (28198|3,28198|2,28555|4,28555|3) - spread
00:36:234 (36234|6) - move
00:36:948 - add
00:38:734 (38734|0,38912|0,39091|0) - spread
00:40:341 (40341|0,40519|0,40877|0) - move
00:41:769 (41769|6,41948|6) - move
00:48:912 (48912|4) - ^
01:02:127 (62127|3) - move and 01:01:412 (61412|3) - until 01:02:127 -
01:14:269 (74269|3) - to 01:17:127 (77127|3) - change pattern to use column 167
01:45:696 - 01:46:049 - add
02:03:696 (123696|3,123696|4,124225|6) - LNend and short move to 02:04:402 -
02:26:173 (146173|3) - plz delete~><

Good Luck.
LightAN21
167 posts
Joined July 2014
LightAN21
(Reply for your request (M4M) in my queue)

Um, because there is a Mod of other Modder first, and I think there're some problems in this map, so...
I'll Mod your map after you update it.

Just reply here if you're ready, and I'll start my Mod and ignore other Modder's Mod during the time I do it.
Last edited by LightAN21 , edited 1 time in total.
cjj490168650
8 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
cjj490168650

hutunohito wrote:

Hi~from queue
Here's my mod
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu!mania_Ranking_Criteria
If you aim ranked,you should make keyspread(at least 3diffs for each Keys)
IMO,4K and 7K is popular,so I mod 4K and 7K diff~

column 1234 1234567

mod
[General]
why BPM changed?confuse how to set hi-speed

[Warm up]
change hitsound soft
00:15:341 (15341|2) - move to 00:15:519 - following 00:12:662 (12662|2) -
00:26:234 (26234|1) - move to 4
00:33:555 (33555|1) - change short(hard for EZ)
00:34:269 (34269|2,37127|1) - recommend like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1906464(easy)
01:01:412 (61412|3) - change short and 01:02:127 - add
01:19:269 - add
01:45:696 - 01:47:108 - 01:48:519 - ^
01:52:755 - ^
01:58:755 (118755|2) - why pattern changed?

[Performance]
change hitsound soft
00:12:662 (12662|3) - move to 1 or 2 or 3
00:15:341 (15341|4,15341|5,15519|3,15519|4) - spread like 35 35
00:17:722 (17722|2,19031|4) - on blue line
00:20:460 (20460|2,20936|0) - mistake
00:28:198 (28198|3,28198|2,28555|4,28555|3) - spread
00:36:234 (36234|6) - move
00:36:948 - add
00:38:734 (38734|0,38912|0,39091|0) - spread
00:40:341 (40341|0,40519|0,40877|0) - move
00:41:769 (41769|6,41948|6) - move
00:48:912 (48912|4) - ^
01:02:127 (62127|3) - move and 01:01:412 (61412|3) - until 01:02:127 -
01:14:269 (74269|3) - to 01:17:127 (77127|3) - change pattern to use column 167
01:45:696 - 01:46:049 - add
02:03:696 (123696|3,123696|4,124225|6) - LNend and short move to 02:04:402 -
02:26:173 (146173|3) - plz delete~><

Good Luck.
Mod adopted. BPM is a big problem of my map and im trying to fix. And im not so good in Eng. So maybe ill misunderstand ur mean. anyway thanks a lot.
cjj490168650
8 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
cjj490168650

LightAN21 wrote:

(Reply for your request (M4M) in my queue)

Um, because there is a Mod of other Modder first, and I think there're some problems in this map, so...
I'll Mod your map after you update it.

Just reply here if you're ready, and I'll start my Mod and ignore other Modder's Mod during the time I do it.

(Don't give me kudosu on this post.
ok wait a moment
LightAN21
167 posts
Joined July 2014
LightAN21
Reply for your request(Mod in chinese) in my queue:

Ummmm, 我先做了一些，(雖然你可能還沒調整好，不過我想我的建議也許有用...你可以先看看)

Um, 我先幫你 Mod 4K，其他 key 數等你調整好基本設定之後再來幫忙。
(我會先幫其他人 Mod 直到你更新完之後在這邊po文說你準備好了~)
(基本設定有很大的問題，offset是其一)

正題：以下是我的 Mod :

(操作順序：先看"General"做調整，再調整 4K，再調 offset，最後將全部難度re-map成符合offset的版本)

General
首先看一下 AiMOD (自動幫你檢查map中的基本問題，快捷鍵：Ctrl+Shift+A)
之後你每次更新之後，要上傳之前都可以自己用AiMOD檢查看看。


首先：
01:45:696 (105696|2) - 在 4K 難度這個點沒有對齊
原因是：The offset is wrong!!!!! 所以在變速點才會出現警訊。
(細節這邊先不多談，要解釋很久，如果想知道到底發生了什麼事，可以在你的回應中詢問，我會盡可能地解釋)
我們最後再來處理這個問題。(可能要花很多時間全部重製，所以先把其他問題修正再來處理)
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再來：
osu!mania 中不建議有休息時間 ---> 暫時先不要理他。(Just ignore this AiMOD)
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再來：
加入預覽時間點(當玩家點到這首歌時，要從哪裡開始撥放 的時間點)
雖然他自動設定的時間點似乎不錯，但我建議自己調，因為不一定每次都這麼準。
建議選擇副歌開始的地方或整首歌最好聽最特殊的地方(這樣玩家一聽就知道是不是自己喜歡的音樂類型)
先調到這個時間點(我覺得這首歌最好聽的地方從這裡開始)：01:22:841
然後點 Set Current position as Preview Point ，點下去就設好預覽點了。(請看圖片)
※注意：這邊每個難度都要重新設定一次，並且都要在相同時間點！

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再來：
osu!mania 模式不允許使用黑邊 (Letterbox)。
請先點 Song Setup ，再點 Design，然後設定成這樣：

(這個選項如果勾起來，mania的圖就一定不會 Ranked)※注意：這邊每個難度也都要重新設定一次！
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最後：
圖組中需要包含 Easy 或 Normal 難度。
Umm...
如果你還沒有任何一張 Ranked 的圖，然後你想要讓這張圖 Ranked，
我建議難度的名稱先使用可以選的 Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane. (BAT 審查的時候比較不會有問題...)
自從你 Ranked 一張圖之後，就可以自由修改名稱了。
(要堅持你的難度名稱也可以，但是我不知道 BAT 接不接受 @_@)
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有關打擊聲，這邊就先不提了，先完成基本設定吧！

注意我的欄位：(最左邊是第 0 行)
4K: |0|1|2|3|
Mod for 4K
先做好基本設定。然後開始調整：
Beat Snap Divisor: 1/2
("點" - Circle)("常音符" - Hold Note)

00:12:662 (12662|2) - 把這個點移到第一行，然後在 00:12:483 地3行加一個點。(鋼琴聲)
00:11:412 (11412|3) - 將結束點拉長 1/2 拍(拉倒紅線)。(給長音符一個明顯的結尾)

00:15:340 - 第一行加一個點
00:14:269 (14269|0) - 將結束點拉長 1/2 拍(拉倒紅線)

00:22:126 第三行加一個點

00:23:377 (23377|2) - 將結束點拉長一拍(拉到白線) -
你可以用 Playback Rate 50% (在畫面右下角)慢速播放，然後確定鋼琴聲長度(直接聽也可以)。

00:25:340 - 第 0 行加一個點(鋼琴聲)
00:28:197 - ^

00:29:091 (29091|3) - 將結束點拉長一拍(拉到白線)

00:32:840 - 在第 3 行加一個長度1/2拍的長音符。(某種樂器的聲音...可能是電吉他...)

00:33:555 (33555|1) - 移除，換成 2 個點 (第0行和第2行)
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00:34:269 - 00:43:555 建議用"點"表達鼓聲。你可以參考我的方法：
(從最下面那張(第三張)開始往上修改。)
00:34:269 - 00:43:555


00:37:841 - 00:40:698


00:34:984 - 00:37:841

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00:43:555 - 在第3行加一個長音符(1拍的長度)。

00:44:448 (44448|1) - 移除。

00:45:698 - 02:05:461 ....這整段我覺得都要重新配合鼓點、鋼琴聲及其他音效製作。
要 po 圖片太花時間了，所以暫時先 Mod 到這邊。
先修正以上部分就好，因為事實上你得處理更大的問題...

※重點：關於 offset
About offset
修正完一些小問題之後，儲存地圖，
然後移到一開始的時間點 00:00:000
點 timing ，把 Offset 設成 0，
然後把每一個你已經放上去的"點"和"長音符"移除，然後再重新放上去。
(因為offset調過，所以會有誤差，要重新放)

你沒有看錯，當這首歌放進來編輯時，offset = 0 就是正確的。
調整 offset 不是為了符合第一個"點"或"長條"開始的時間點，
是為了符合"整首歌第一個小節"開始的時間點。
(The offset is NOT changed for fitting the timing where you put first note,
it is changed for fitting the timing of the start point of the first "barline" of whole song!)
"第一個小節"是什麼？ - 如果你要問這個問題，在回應中告訴我，我會盡可能地解釋。

由於要做一張圖之前都要先調好offset才開始做，
但是在你還沒調好 offset 的狀況下，我沒有辦法 Mod 。
如果我自己調動 offset，全部的"點"和"長條"都會對不到正確位置，沒辦法直接給建議。
所以只好先請你改一部分，調好offset之後再重製。
如果先 po 文告訴你 offset 問題的話你還是得先重製完我才能Mod，乾脆一起寫成一篇...

※注意 1：每個難度都要重製 offset, 重新放置。

※注意 2：其實可以直接調 offset 讓整張圖中的"點"完全沒有時間點錯誤的問題，但是我不建議這樣做，
因為這首歌最開始的時間點就已經修剪得非常準確(我認為誤差不超過10毫秒)，
設計好的就可以不要動到它了。

其實看完其他難度之後，發現很多問題點，要一一解釋需要花很多時間，
我覺得要 Mod 這張圖不如幫你做 GD (Guests' Difficulty)還比較快。

給你 3 個選擇：(Here give you 3 choices)

3 choices
1. 堅持自己做完整張圖，從別人的 Mod 中一點一滴學習作圖技術，必要時重新製作(Re-map)。

2. 保留一個難度自己完成(透過別人的 Mod 慢慢修改，學習技巧)，
然後找人幫你做 GD，然後再找其他 Modder 幫忙 Mod。

3. other methods.

選擇第一點可能會花上一些時間，但對你也有幫助，
只是地圖的耐玩性不一定高(要看接下來你遇到什麼樣的Modder)
要遇到像我這麼有耐心作範例和教學的 Modder 的機會不多。不過還是有，只是需要時間尋找。

如果你選擇第二點我可以幫你做 7K 或 4K。但是我必須先去確定一些關於 GD 的事。
(例如第一次做的圖是否允許 GD 之類的...因為難度的名稱會改變)
雖然也是要花一些時間，但是因為有不同的 mapper 參與作圖，所以地圖就會變得比較有趣而且特殊。

你可以在回應中告訴我你的選擇。

這首 V.K 客 的歌很好聽，我非常喜歡 !
如果我有參與做圖或你有使用到我的建議做圖，我會希望他 Ranked !
(其實我自己很想自己從頭到尾做一次試試 XD)

抱歉說得有點太多....希望有幫到你！(感覺我快要可以發教學文了....)

如果你覺得我的 Mod 以及解說對你有幫助，可以給我 1 個 kudosu.

如果你覺得我的建議對你超級超級有幫助，可以連同我上一篇發文給我 2 個 kudosu,
我會在你完成整張圖並且再次請我幫你 Mod 之後，於這張圖上給 2 顆星。

mania 作圖參考：<Link>

加油 ! 我支持將這首歌做成 mania map !
KUURAhoshi
585 posts
Joined January 2014
KUURAhoshi
Remove Deemo from the tags..
Because the source is already deemo..

Add this to the tags :
Vanros kloud collection 1
Lunatic Raccoon
546 posts
Joined May 2013
Lunatic Raccoon
Update please :3
Deep Sea
1,947 posts
Joined June 2013
Deep Sea
Hi
mod ready, sorry for delay

[General]
Open Aimod to check problems

[Warm up]
00:15:519 - move to 2
00:59:984 - move to 3
01:05:519 - move to 3
01:14:269 - move to 2
01:59:461 - Suggesting : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1914958
02:02:637 - move to 2
02:04:402 - add LN to 1, end here 02:04:931

[Practice]
00:09:984 (9984|3) - move to 2
00:18:555 - move to 3
00:22:484 - delete note
01:25:877 - move to 3
01:56:813 - add note to 3

rather strange diffs owo

Good luck ;)
LordRaika
Elite Mapper
1,438 posts
Joined September 2013
LordRaika
Request Mod from my Modding Queue


osuu~ :)
Here is my mod as request :

Column |1-8|

Full mod usually points out something important to HELP your beatmap improve, pls dont mistake it as modders
trying to comment or pointing out your mistake or giving bad comment, its jst a suggestion to help mapper :)
Full Mod Inside
[General ]
  1. THis song is great ^^ but if you want this to be ranked....
    you should have whole spread
    for example
    4K Easy - Insane
    5K Easy - Insane
    and so on... till 8K
  2. Suggestion : its best that u choose only 1 key
    example 4K , and make 4 dif of 4K , or 7K , and make 4 Dif of 7K
    if not, you will have to make whole spread
    like my beatmap Ice - L2 - Ascension : Act 2 (Liberation)
Well, GL ^^b

[Concert]
  1. 00:12:662 (12662|3,12662|4) - make this note the same position with 00:12:484 (12484|2,12484|5) -
    because both have the SAME sound...
    so try to listen at most of the same sound, and u can place their position the same...
  2. 00:18:198 (18198|1,18198|3) - this and 00:17:603 (17603|1,17603|3) - is not the same sound, so dont put them in the same place
Check for everything like that...
its weird to press note in the same column while their sound is different

[Performance]
  1. 00:15:341 (15341|4,15341|2,15519|4,15519|2) - here, this is RIGHT, the have the same sound ^^b
  2. 01:14:269 - from here, pls make them random pattern for each hand, dont place them in same position over the time... the sound is clearly different
    and the pitch of piano of that part is gradually descend...
  3. 02:15:872 - u can add notes from column 7 till 1 here...

By remembering all of those while mapping, im sure you will be able to improve your beatmap ^^
FINALLY , the best and most important things in mapping,
you must make sure what u mapped can be enjoyable by others, if u can, try it to play your dif set...
is it fun or not, if not, u MUST know where it is, so fix it...
then if u cant, u should try to ask someone to test it....

GL for your beatmap ^^
mike91lau
284 posts
Joined June 2013
mike91lau
Mod?
Performance
00:10:698 - add
00:17:722 (17722|2) - snap at 00:17:662 -
00:19:031 (19031|4) - at 00:19:091 -
00:20:460 (20460|2) - at 00:20:519 -
00:20:936 (20936|0) - at 00:21:055 -
00:29:091 - 3 LN as 00:26:234
00:39:805 - add
00:55:877 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2025572
01:14:269 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2025576
01:27:662 - add to 5th column
01:56:813 - add
01:59:813 (119813|3,119813|2) - move to left 1 column
02:03:696 - add
02:06:519 ~ 02:16:401 - why empty?
02:16:931 ~ 02:26:636 - snap with 1/6

Pratice
00:18:555 (18555|1) - change column
00:19:031 (19031|3) - snap at 00:19:091 -
00:20:936 (20936|0) - snap at 00:21:055 -
00:50:162 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2025598
00:52:662 - add
01:46:225 (106225|1) - change column
01:49:225 (109225|0) - move to 3rd column
01:52:049 (112049|1) - change column
02:00:519 (120519|3) - ^
02:05:990 (125990|4,126519|1) - ^
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