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Feint - Tower of Heaven (You are Slaves)

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Seijiro
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Seijiro
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on martedì 9 febbraio 2016 at 18:04:16

Artist: Feint
Title: Tower of Heaven (You are Slaves)
Tags: Kama Instrumental
BPM: 175
Filesize: 4598kb
Play Time: 00:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (0 stars, 1 notes)
  2. Insane (0 stars, 0 notes)
  3. Kama's Easy (1,11 stars, 122 notes)
  4. Normal (1,92 stars, 54 notes)
  5. Slave revamp (4,12 stars, 197 notes)
  6. Slave (5,36 stars, 888 notes)
Download: Feint - Tower of Heaven (You are Slaves)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Go go, Feint ! :)
I'll add more details here soon. Just wait a little more ;)

/!\/!\/!\ CURRENTLY REMAPPING EVERYTHING /!\/!\/!\

Added Kama's Easy :3

Here you can find my old Slave diff, made more than 5 months ago



If you downloaded before 14/9/14, please re-download, since I changed the mp3


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Last edited by Seijiro , edited 67 times in total.
Secretpipe
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Joined December 2012
Secretpipe
I love that song !
Good luck~
Seijiro
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Topic Starter
Seijiro

Secretpipe wrote:

I love that song !
Good luck~
Thanks Secretpipe. I'm glad you like it :)

I hope to make a good beatmap 'cause this song deserves it :)
Kirin
267 posts
Joined August 2012
Kirin
testplay
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1903919

Lo spacing mi sembra esagerato per essere una insane (e anche i pattern imo)
Seijiro
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Seijiro

Kirin wrote:

testplay
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1903919

Lo spacing mi sembra esagerato per essere una insane (e anche i pattern imo)

I thought of doing the Insane first, but it came out really complicated so I decided to make the Extra first;


Insane --> Slave
Bonzi
213 posts
Joined January 2012
Bonzi
Posto qualcosina su cui abbiamo discusso sulla slave diff :3

logs
15:24 ThEBonzi: aaaallora :3
15:24 [-MrSergio-]: Mi dica tutto :3
15:25 ThEBonzi: giocandola ho avuto l'occasione di vedere dei patterns che altrimenti con l'editor solo non avrei visto
15:25 [-MrSergio-]: Ma di solito non e' il contrario? xD
15:25 [-MrSergio-]: Beh...no
15:25 [-MrSergio-]: In alcuni casi e' cosi' in effetti...
15:26 ThEBonzi: 02:05:555 (5,6,7,8,9) - questo mi ha confuso abbastanza
15:27 [-MrSergio-]: Per il fatto che sono impilate le ultime 3 note?
15:27 [-MrSergio-]: Sistemato (y)
15:27 ThEBonzi: probabilmente perchè c'è il 6 diviso dalle altre 3
15:27 ThEBonzi: esatto
15:28 ThEBonzi: poi
15:28 ThEBonzi: 02:21:498 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - mi ha colto molto di sorpresa
15:29 [-MrSergio-]: Non dirlo a me =.="
15:29 [-MrSergio-]: Non mi piaceva, ma credevo che si riuscisse a fare lo stesso
15:29 ThEBonzi: ho la netta sensazione che sarà un punto di fail per molta gente xD
15:29 [-MrSergio-]: Anche secondo me
15:30 [-MrSergio-]: Meglio cambiarlo
15:30 [-MrSergio-]: Anche se ho poca fantasia al momento
15:30 ThEBonzi: ovviamente oltre l'ultimo stream
15:30 [-MrSergio-]: Si;, certo
15:30 [-MrSergio-]: Infatti ho fatto una cosa che rende la map unrankabile
15:31 ThEBonzi: vabbè che là difficolta aumenti all'ultimo la gente se lo aspetta, quindi l'ultimo stream non é proprio un problema xD
15:31 [-MrSergio-]: No, quello lo so. Ma rimane il fatto che ho nascosto troppo quello slider
15:32 ThEBonzi: ah, ultima cosa, ho trovato 02:43:441 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - particolarmente complicato da fare, ma probabilmente sono solo io
15:32 [-MrSergio-]: Apoosto, sistemato quello di prima
15:33 [-MrSergio-]: Francamente avevo dubbi sul quel pattern
15:33 [-MrSergio-]: (il secondo)
15:34 [-MrSergio-]: So che non e' interamente giusto, ma non ho idea di come migliorarlo
15:34 [-MrSergio-]: O meglio: non so dove sia l'errore di fondo
15:34 ThEBonzi: aspè ti stai riferendo a:
15:34 ThEBonzi: 02:21:498 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ?
15:34 [-MrSergio-]: nope
15:35 [-MrSergio-]: All'ultimo che hai linkato
15:35 [-MrSergio-]: 02:21:498 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - L'ho gia' canbiato
15:35 [-MrSergio-]: Era sbagliato proprio
15:36 [-MrSergio-]: 02:43:441 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Questo per ora lo lascio cosi' sicocme non ho appigli per modificarlo :3
15:36 [-MrSergio-]: Anche se so che non e' completamente giusto =.=
15:37 [-MrSergio-]: Comunque mi e' stato utile :3
15:38 [-MrSergio-]: Mi hai dato importanti conferme su alcuni pezzi che ritenevo ostici :3
15:38 [-MrSergio-]: Posta pure sul topic questa mod ;)
15:38 ThEBonzi: okay, non c'è di chè :3
15:39 [-MrSergio-]: Thanks :3
Kyuuten
272 posts
Joined June 2013
Kyuuten
Woah, this song is amazing! :3
If you need something -- like a mod for your future diff or better, an GD -- you are free to say it to me :3
By the wayyy... Good luck with the map! :)







( ^o^) mogege.
Seijiro
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Topic Starter
Seijiro

Kamanezu wrote:

Woah, this song is amazing! :3
If you need something -- like a mod for your future diff or better, an GD -- you are free to say it to me :3
By the wayyy... Good luck with the map! :)

Thanks Kamanezu, but I don't need GD for this mapset: I wanted to make a personal mapset to test my mapping skills.

When I'll be done with the other diffs I'll let you know for a mod :3
Secretpipe
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Secretpipe
I'm sure you know it but the timing is kinda weird.

Notes arrived a bit late imo
Seijiro
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Secretpipe wrote:

I'm sure you know it but the timing is kinda weird.

Notes arrived a bit late imo
My bad I didn't write this in the first post, but I changed the mp3 file.
I think re-downloading should fix it. If they are still out of rhythm, then it means that I really suck at this xD
Sawe
37 posts
Joined December 2012
Sawe
completly out of timing
Seijiro
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Seijiro

Sawe wrote:

completly out of timing
Seriously o.O?

Sorry, but I checked a few times my timing before starting to map, so I don't think it's wrong xD
- Marco -
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- Marco -
Sergio is back \:D/

AIBat v3.1 wrote:

[General]
Background
city-birds-clouds-sun-anime.jpg is 1228x767, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768.

[All .osu Files]
Kiai
Inconsistency in Kiai Times:

- [Hard] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:22:224, ends on 00:22:310
Kiai #2: Starts on 00:55:139, ends on 00:55:224
Kiai #3: Starts on 01:11:596, ends on 01:17:082
Kiai #4: Starts on 01:18:453, ends on 01:18:539
Kiai #5: Starts on 01:33:539, ends on 01:39:024
Kiai #6: Starts on 02:00:967, ends on 02:01:053
Kiai #7: Starts on 02:11:939, ends on 02:12:024
Kiai #8: Starts on 02:17:424, ends on 02:22:824
Kiai #9: Starts on 02:22:910, ends on 02:22:996
Kiai #10: Starts on 02:33:882, ends on 02:33:967
Kiai #11: Starts on 02:39:367, ends on 02:44:853

- [Insane] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:22:224, ends on 00:22:310
Kiai #2: Starts on 00:55:139, ends on 00:55:224
Kiai #3: Starts on 01:11:596, ends on 01:17:082
Kiai #4: Starts on 01:18:453, ends on 01:18:539
Kiai #5: Starts on 01:33:539, ends on 01:39:024
Kiai #6: Starts on 02:00:967, ends on 02:01:053
Kiai #7: Starts on 02:11:939, ends on 02:12:024
Kiai #8: Starts on 02:17:424, ends on 02:22:824
Kiai #9: Starts on 02:22:910, ends on 02:22:996
Kiai #10: Starts on 02:33:882, ends on 02:33:967
Kiai #11: Starts on 02:39:367, ends on 02:44:853

- [Normal] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:55:139, ends on 01:17:082
Kiai #2: Starts on 01:33:539, ends on 01:39:024
Kiai #3: Starts on 02:22:910, ends on 02:44:853

- [Slave] :
Kiai #1: Starts on 00:22:224, ends on 00:22:310
Kiai #2: Starts on 00:55:139, ends on 00:55:224
Kiai #3: Starts on 01:11:596, ends on 01:17:082
Kiai #4: Starts on 01:18:453, ends on 01:18:539
Kiai #5: Starts on 01:33:539, ends on 01:39:024
Kiai #6: Starts on 02:00:967, ends on 02:01:053
Kiai #7: Starts on 02:11:939, ends on 02:12:024
Kiai #8: Starts on 02:17:424, ends on 02:22:824
Kiai #9: Starts on 02:22:910, ends on 02:22:996
Kiai #10: Starts on 02:33:882, ends on 02:33:967
Kiai #11: Starts on 02:39:367, ends on 02:44:853

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[Hard]
Breaks
Consider adding a break before 01:30:282.

[Normal]
Snapping

Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
00:37:620 - snap to 00:37:653

[Slave]
Breaks
Consider adding a break before 01:30:282.
Sawe
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Sawe
Why u removed the long streams -.-?
Now the map is way to easy... [ I play this map very often ]
Seijiro
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Sawe wrote:

Why u removed the long streams -.-?
Now the map is way to easy... [ I play this map very often ]

They were completely out of rhythm from my point of view, so I tried to give them more "movement"
zkf_old
21 posts
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zkf_old
IRC Mod for the [Hard].

SPOILER
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: lul
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: I remember when me and Takoki or something spammed #spectator of somebody with talk about politics
2014-12-27 03:04 [-MrSergio-]: At the moment I have o mapsets done, but I have a map with an Hard and an Extra done
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: that was so hilarious
2014-12-27 03:04 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: You know what I say about that?
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/147327 A*Teens - Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (Nightcore Mix)]
2014-12-27 03:04 [-MrSergio-]: ?
2014-12-27 03:05 zkf: Gimme gimme gimme <3
2014-12-27 03:05 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:05 zkf: Or is it not submitted?
2014-12-27 03:05 [-MrSergio-]: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/474468 Feint - Tower of Heaven (You are Slaves)]
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: yay
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: Uh.
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: That's a full mapset isn't it? O:
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: My mapsets end up being done only half xD
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Nope xD
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: Oh wait.
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Half of them are empty
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: You said only the insane and extra are done
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: Ah.
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Or almost
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: I see
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Hard*
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: and extra
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: imma play em first
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: The others are just starting
2014-12-27 03:07 zkf: hard and extra are done?
2014-12-27 03:07 zkf: k
2014-12-27 03:07 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:08 zkf: Wow that song.
2014-12-27 03:08 zkf: Good choice man, this song rocks.
2014-12-27 03:08 [-MrSergio-]: It was even more crazy before
2014-12-27 03:08 [-MrSergio-]: The map I mean
2014-12-27 03:09 [-MrSergio-]: But I had to make it more understandable
2014-12-27 03:09 [-MrSergio-]: There was a huge stream in the middle :/
2014-12-27 03:10 [-MrSergio-]: Anyway. If you can't mod much it doesn't matter. For the moemnt I'm jsut trying to finish the mapset xD
2014-12-27 03:10 zkf: lol
2014-12-27 03:11 [-MrSergio-]: To be honest I've met a few people willing to see this map finished so I have to end it no matter what xD
2014-12-27 03:11 [-MrSergio-]: But my mapping times are horrible =.=
2014-12-27 03:11 [-MrSergio-]: I can take an entire day for just 3 secs
2014-12-27 03:11 zkf: Actually
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: That's why it took me 2 months to do the Extra
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: How much time do you have right now=?
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Well...
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: NOthing to do
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: Nothin to do?
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: Time for my first IRC mod I heard?
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Yep x
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: xD
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Alright then :3
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: Let's do this shiez
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: It's my first one, so I might be a bit slow
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: :3
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Don't worry
2014-12-27 03:13 [-MrSergio-]: I'm not in a hurry :3
2014-12-27 03:13 zkf: If you got other things to do at one point, say so and I'll open notepad
2014-12-27 03:13 zkf: Alright, we'll start with the Hard k?
2014-12-27 03:13 [-MrSergio-]: Fine :3
2014-12-27 03:13 zkf: 00:00:282 (1) - I think I'd end the slider where the 3 starts - makes a good blanket directly at the start
2014-12-27 03:13 [-MrSergio-]: Maybe this mod will give me some creativity to end the other diffs xD
2014-12-27 03:14 [-MrSergio-]: Oh, I see what you mean
2014-12-27 03:14 [-MrSergio-]: A moment
2014-12-27 03:14 zkf: 00:08:510 (1) - This feels a little bit "forced" for a hard imo. The beat isn't that strong, and players on that level could easily be confused by that
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: First done
2014-12-27 03:15 zkf: But it's your choice if you want to keep it
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah, that was tricky :/
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: 00:07:482 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Probably I'll chenga all of this
2014-12-27 03:15 zkf: 00:13:996 (2) - I'd say put the note directly behind the end of 1, makes it look a bit better
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: change*
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: Hm, maybe throw in a slider somewhere there.
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: 00:10:224 (1) - Here. Yep.
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: Might feel good to have a slider there
2014-12-27 03:16 [-MrSergio-]: In the Extra there's a slider there
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: Yeah, and I think it feels more nice there
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: I'll change it with all the pattern before
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: Not sure if you want to change the pattern before that
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: Sicne I have to think about a good pattern
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: The notes there feel good imo.
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: Those circles are too random :/
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: Sometimes randomness is needed.
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah, but I feel like I need more order
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: At least that's what I think lol.
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: I'll keep in mind both solutions anyway :3
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: Too much randomness and you end up wtih #BLAME<NAME>2014 LOL
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: you know that map?
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: And I agree with you on that :3
2014-12-27 03:18 [-MrSergio-]: Yep xD
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: it's like somebody just puked in the editor
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: it's horrific
2014-12-27 03:18 [-MrSergio-]: He's my friend xD
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: anyhow
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: LOL
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: 00:22:910 (4) - No need to break the flow here :P that means that the following note has to be adjusted tho
2014-12-27 03:19 [-MrSergio-]: So Ctrl + G I suppose..?
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Yeah.
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: But the next note needs to be adjusted
2014-12-27 03:19 [-MrSergio-]: Nice
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Oh.
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Simple fix.
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Put 00:23:253 (1) - over 00:22:739 (3) -
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: Actually
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: Crap, that's DS2 too.
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: Over 00:22:053 (2) - might fit.
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: nah these notes are too close. Dammit.
2014-12-27 03:21 [-MrSergio-]: how about 00:22:567 (2) - ?
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: That's DS2.7
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: For a hard, I don't think that's good. LOL
2014-12-27 03:21 [-MrSergio-]: Hm...
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: I think you possibly need to remap a short part there. I can't find a quick solution :/
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: Or just wait for a different mod.
2014-12-27 03:22 [-MrSergio-]: yeah, I notice
2014-12-27 03:22 [-MrSergio-]: noticed*
2014-12-27 03:22 [-MrSergio-]: I'll put a bookmark and I'll think out
2014-12-27 03:22 zkf: For fucks sake, I lost the other thing I wanted to note.
2014-12-27 03:22 zkf: I suck at IRC modding, kill me.
2014-12-27 03:23 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:23 [-MrSergio-]: Don't worry too much
2014-12-27 03:23 zkf: 00:26:339 (1,2,3) - Skipping the red ticks feels a bit weird. I pressed 2 at the first red tick out of listening to the music, maybe making it some short singletaps might feel good
2014-12-27 03:23 zkf: Just not too spaced
2014-12-27 03:25 [-MrSergio-]: 00:26:853 - I added a note just here
2014-12-27 03:25 zkf: Maybe like this. It feels a bit hard, so maybe a bit smaller
2014-12-27 03:25 zkf: http://puu.sh/dKM7U/ab4ce2ff4e.jpg
2014-12-27 03:25 [-MrSergio-]: Since 00:26:510 - was too close
2014-12-27 03:25 [-MrSergio-]: I thought about the same thing
2014-12-27 03:26 [-MrSergio-]: But 5 feels awkward..
2014-12-27 03:26 zkf: Hm, not so sure. Maybe I'm just the guy who listens too much to the music itself. LOL
2014-12-27 03:26 zkf: Anyhow
2014-12-27 03:27 zkf: 00:41:082 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - Putting the yellow 3 under a previous stream could fuck with a player on that level really hard
2014-12-27 03:27 [-MrSergio-]: Hm....
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: Possible fixc
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: Replace 00:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1) - with a straight slide from 1 to 1
2014-12-27 03:28 [-MrSergio-]: Alright, I did a strange curve xD
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: Oh wait.
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: That overlaps with the slider
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: So maybe move 00:42:796 (1) - to the slider start
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: and then apply the fix
2014-12-27 03:30 zkf: Like this: http://puu.sh/dKMs0/e5f7c7d2a2.jpg
2014-12-27 03:30 [-MrSergio-]: I wanted to keep that curve, so I did like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2392894 this]
2014-12-27 03:30 zkf: Something really minor that I however noticed while playing
2014-12-27 03:31 zkf: 00:49:653 (2,3,4) - The distance between 2,3 and 3,4 isn't equal
2014-12-27 03:31 zkf: Astethics are a pretty big point in easy maps as a lot of them are used as warmup
2014-12-27 03:31 zkf: Looks good.
2014-12-27 03:32 [-MrSergio-]: I thought I had put it well enough those sliders...let me re-check...
2014-12-27 03:32 zkf: 00:57:539 (5,3) - A litte overlap, although not that noticable
2014-12-27 03:32 zkf: If you want just ignore it and fix it if anybody else notices lol
2014-12-27 03:32 zkf: #thelazyway
2014-12-27 03:33 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: 00:59:767 (4,5) - Putting these notes over the same place doesn't go with the music imp
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: imo*
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: The music says "jump" for me at that point
2014-12-27 03:33 [-MrSergio-]: Fixed, the previooud overlap
2014-12-27 03:33 [-MrSergio-]: previous*
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: Also 01:00:110 (5) - being unmapped throws me off for some reason
2014-12-27 03:34 [-MrSergio-]: That's right
2014-12-27 03:34 zkf: Maybe a slider from 00:59:939 - to 01:00:110 - ?
2014-12-27 03:35 zkf: 01:00:110 (5,1) - Overlap here o:
2014-12-27 03:35 zkf: Every hidden player will hit this on the white tick I think.
2014-12-27 03:36 [-MrSergio-]: Yep, I fixed it alreay
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: yeah
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: just moving it to the white one
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: fixes it
2014-12-27 03:36 [-MrSergio-]: But that slider feels off, since I used the bass as the base instrument
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: Could add a note at the now free red tick.
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: Right above the start of the slider.
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: If puu.sh would upload..
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: http://puu.sh/dKMQS/57787e6e21.jpg
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: 01:07:139 (4) - That's so mean to hidden players w/o followpoints xD
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: Literally dozens were affected.
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: Sorry elysion!
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: Althogh I don't think at that level anybody uses a special skin.
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: So I think you can leave it in
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: FoI remember from my playtest that I hit this in opposite direction because it fits more with the flow
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: Oh
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: 01:08:339 (4,5) -
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: I meant this. LOL. forgot the copy.
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: Just reverse 4 and 5 and it should be good
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: 'Actually I hated that
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: Hm?
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: I'll remove the 4 from under the slider
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: Ctrl + H
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: ?
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: On what note?
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: Oh on the pattern?
2014-12-27 03:40 zkf: Sure I guess.
2014-12-27 03:40 [-MrSergio-]: 01:08:339 (4,5) - ']
2014-12-27 03:40 [-MrSergio-]: 5 will remain udner his slider
2014-12-27 03:40 [-MrSergio-]: under*
2014-12-27 03:40 zkf: Like this?http://puu.sh/dKN2N/72eed7eb39.jpg
2014-12-27 03:40 zkf: Not so sure what you mean
2014-12-27 03:41 [-MrSergio-]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2392922
2014-12-27 03:41 zkf: 01:11:596 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Imo just spamming reverse sliders in kiai doesn't transmit the "kiai" feeling
2014-12-27 03:41 zkf: Oh yeah that looks good.
2014-12-27 03:42 zkf: Really good.
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: I knew it xD
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: Those repeats are ubearable
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: But I had nothing better to put there xD
2014-12-27 03:42 zkf: I think the entire kiai needs to be remapped there
2014-12-27 03:42 zkf: One sec, I'll think of something quickly okay.
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: I thought "Hey, an easy part. Let's make it with sliders"
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:43 [-MrSergio-]: Worst decision ever xD
2014-12-27 03:43 zkf: Note at 01:11:596 -
2014-12-27 03:43 zkf: Slider from 01:11:767 - to 01:11:939 -
2014-12-27 03:44 zkf: Reverse slider at 01:12:024 - to 01:12:196 - with reverse point 01:12:110 -
2014-12-27 03:44 zkf: Note at 01:12:282 -
2014-12-27 03:44 zkf: Same timed reversed slider at 01:12:453 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: Note at 01:12:796 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: 01:12:882 - and 01:12:967 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: Short 1/4 slider at 01:13:139 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: actually no, 1/2 slider there
2014-12-27 03:46 zkf: or a reverser, your decision.
2014-12-27 03:46 zkf: 01:13:396 - 1/4 slider 2x reversed
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: copy + move the just created slider to 01:13:396 -
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: uh
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: i meant
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: 01:13:739 -
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: sorry
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: simple note at 01:14:167 -
2014-12-27 03:48 [-MrSergio-]: Hm....it's a good rhythm
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: and my ideas are running out
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: but you get the idea
2014-12-27 03:48 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: break it up a bit
2014-12-27 03:48 [-MrSergio-]: But i need some time to think about the patterns xD
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: 01:15:710 (1) - this part here is perfect.
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: fits really good.
2014-12-27 03:49 zkf: just don't try to end it there, you can simply move it - its right before a break
2014-12-27 03:49 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:49 [-MrSergio-]: Bookmarked this one too
2014-12-27 03:49 zkf: 01:22:567 (1,2,3) - Ouchies, that overlap doesn't fit with the song at all imo
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: I wanted to make something different xD
2014-12-27 03:50 zkf: 01:25:310 (1,2) - I'd say repeat the previous timing, just a different pattern
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: Anyway, gotta change it
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: Pretty ugly :v ^
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: I mean, my option is pretty ugly
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: It's not ugly.
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: No
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: It's really well placed actually, like a proper overlap should be
2014-12-27 03:51 [-MrSergio-]: No, I really hate them since they stand out too much xD
2014-12-27 03:51 [-MrSergio-]: 01:25:310 (1,2) -
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: Hm?
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: Oh you mean these.
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: OH
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: I was referring to those sliders
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: :P
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: God dammit.
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: I thought youre tlaking about 01:22:567 (1,2,3) -
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: LOL
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: That's why I linked thetiming xD
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: Yeah these are...
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: uh
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: like I said
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: Repeat the previous timing with a different pattern
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: and you're fine
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: 01:32:510 (2,3) - No need to break the flow here, switch em on the timeline
2014-12-27 03:53 zkf: 01:33:539 (1) - Again the reverser spam doesn't fit until 01:37:653 (1) -
2014-12-27 03:53 zkf: You'll probaly need to bookmark and do this later.
2014-12-27 03:54 zkf: I can't give you directions for that, you need to find your own style
2014-12-27 03:54 [-MrSergio-]: Yes, absolutely
2014-12-27 03:54 zkf: 01:54:110 (1,2) - Feels a bit "too" curvy imo
2014-12-27 03:54 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:55 [-MrSergio-]: Again my creativity xD
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: 02:03:367 (5) - Elysions small brother says fuck you xD
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: jk
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: Hidden notes under sliders, we both love them.
2014-12-27 03:55 [-MrSergio-]: Well...I paly always HD so these notes look normal for me, that's why xD
2014-12-27 03:55 [-MrSergio-]: play*
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: Yeah, but don't worry about it.
2014-12-27 03:56 zkf: Maps are judged based on the default skin which has followpoints.
2014-12-27 03:56 zkf: If somebody removes followpoints these notes are their own problem.
2014-12-27 03:56 zkf: 02:03:710 (1,3) - I'd say rotate 3 a bit more
2014-12-27 03:56 [-MrSergio-]: yep, it doens't stand out enough
2014-12-27 03:57 zkf: 02:09:539 (2) - Blanket time? http://puu.sh/dKO41/e3cb9a025d.jpg
2014-12-27 03:58 zkf: Just need to adjust 3 and 4 a bit then. Move 3 to the end of 3, and then Ctrl+G on 3&4
2014-12-27 03:58 [-MrSergio-]: It was already a blanket with the other sliders xD
2014-12-27 03:59 zkf: Crap I alrady playtested
2014-12-27 03:59 zkf: Undohistory gone.
2014-12-27 03:59 zkf: Gotta redl
2014-12-27 04:00 [-MrSergio-]: 3 & 4 were meant to make a blanket with both side sliders
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: The original blanket doesn't stand out imp
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: imo+
2014-12-27 04:00 [-MrSergio-]: 3 blankets 2 and 4 balnkets 1
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: Yeah I see, but it doesn't stand out too much imo
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: Maybe make 1 and 2 more curvy?
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: Like, shorter and more to the sides
2014-12-27 04:00 [-MrSergio-]: Hm...
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: and then readjust the existing blanket
2014-12-27 04:01 zkf: 02:13:996 (3,4,5) - My completely own opinion: Switch 4&5 on the timeline, then make the now existing 4 on the other side of the "triangle"
2014-12-27 04:01 zkf: imo that flows a bit better
2014-12-27 04:02 [-MrSergio-]: The exact flow of the previous triangle
2014-12-27 04:02 [-MrSergio-]: (y)
2014-12-27 04:02 zkf: What previous triangle?
2014-12-27 04:02 [-MrSergio-]: ops, wrong thing xD
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: 02:14:682 (1,2,3) - Either make all sliders curvy or all straight, throwing a straight one in the middle feels clunky
2014-12-27 04:03 [-MrSergio-]: 01:08:167 (3,4,5) -
2014-12-27 04:03 [-MrSergio-]: it's similar to this
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: Didn't you do this differently?
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: You modified this locally and screenshotted it
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: and I don't think that was a triangle was it
2014-12-27 04:04 [-MrSergio-]: In the end, it was xD
2014-12-27 04:04 zkf: well, it doesn't matter if it's the same
2014-12-27 04:04 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: just do what you think feels good, but somehow get rid of the hidden note under the slider I think
2014-12-27 04:05 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah :/
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: 02:17:397 - I think I don't need to say anything o:
2014-12-27 04:05 [-MrSergio-]: I didn;t consider this when I mapped it
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: Same part as the other reversers
2014-12-27 04:05 [-MrSergio-]: I'll search for the other hidden notes
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: Everything after 02:21:539 (1) - is fine again
2014-12-27 04:06 zkf: Hidden note at 02:25:139 (4) - is fine btw
2014-12-27 04:06 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah, taht part was something that was really random
2014-12-27 04:06 zkf: feels good with the flow
2014-12-27 04:08 zkf: 02:25:653 (1,2,3,4) - a) Select the entire 1-4 pattern. b) Move it so 2 starts at the previous pink 4. c) Move the start of 3 to the start of 1, and the start of 4 to the start of 2 d) Instant 300 bpm Freedom dive deathst-wrong part of the internet
2014-12-27 04:09 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 04:09 [-MrSergio-]: I love the last part xD
2014-12-27 04:09 zkf: 02:27:539 (3,1) - Dem overlaps doe. Just copy the slider from 02:29:082 (2) - and move it to 1 so the start/end point is the same
2014-12-27 04:10 zkf: 02:29:767 (1,2) - A straight jump down feels too stale here I think
2014-12-27 04:11 zkf: Possible fix : http://puu.sh/dKOOo/6d079ba455.jpg
2014-12-27 04:12 [-MrSergio-]: I did the same thing xD
2014-12-27 04:12 zkf: 02:37:653 (4) - I'd say move this like that: http://puu.sh/dKORH/ebeb45a3c2.jpg
2014-12-27 04:12 [-MrSergio-]: Even without the screenshot xD
2014-12-27 04:12 zkf: 02:39:367 (1) - You know what to do
2014-12-27 04:12 zkf: until 02:43:482 (1) -
2014-12-27 04:13 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 04:13 [-MrSergio-]: Already bookmarked
2014-12-27 04:13 zkf: 02:49:996 (1,2,3) - Imo remove 1&2, move the slider to the previous 1, and extend it 2x
2014-12-27 04:14 zkf: Maybe just extend it 1x instead of 2x
2014-12-27 04:14 zkf: And put a note at the last tick
2014-12-27 04:14 zkf: Like 02:47:596 (2) -
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: yep
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: I did that
2014-12-27 04:15 zkf: 02:55:653 (6) - DS2.5 to next note. u_u
2014-12-27 04:15 zkf: 02:58:224 (1) - Another point for a "remove the last slider tick and put a note"
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: Fixed xD
2014-12-27 04:16 zkf: and I think we're done with the hard
2014-12-27 04:16 [-MrSergio-]: (y)
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zkf wrote:

IRC Mod for the [Hard].

SPOILER
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: lul
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: I remember when me and Takoki or something spammed #spectator of somebody with talk about politics
2014-12-27 03:04 [-MrSergio-]: At the moment I have o mapsets done, but I have a map with an Hard and an Extra done
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: that was so hilarious
2014-12-27 03:04 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: You know what I say about that?
2014-12-27 03:04 zkf: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/147327 A*Teens - Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (Nightcore Mix)]
2014-12-27 03:04 [-MrSergio-]: ?
2014-12-27 03:05 zkf: Gimme gimme gimme <3
2014-12-27 03:05 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:05 zkf: Or is it not submitted?
2014-12-27 03:05 [-MrSergio-]: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/474468 Feint - Tower of Heaven (You are Slaves)]
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: yay
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: Uh.
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: That's a full mapset isn't it? O:
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: My mapsets end up being done only half xD
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Nope xD
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: Oh wait.
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Half of them are empty
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: You said only the insane and extra are done
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: Ah.
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Or almost
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: I see
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: Hard*
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: and extra
2014-12-27 03:06 zkf: imma play em first
2014-12-27 03:06 [-MrSergio-]: The others are just starting
2014-12-27 03:07 zkf: hard and extra are done?
2014-12-27 03:07 zkf: k
2014-12-27 03:07 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:08 zkf: Wow that song.
2014-12-27 03:08 zkf: Good choice man, this song rocks.
2014-12-27 03:08 [-MrSergio-]: It was even more crazy before
2014-12-27 03:08 [-MrSergio-]: The map I mean
2014-12-27 03:09 [-MrSergio-]: But I had to make it more understandable
2014-12-27 03:09 [-MrSergio-]: There was a huge stream in the middle :/
2014-12-27 03:10 [-MrSergio-]: Anyway. If you can't mod much it doesn't matter. For the moemnt I'm jsut trying to finish the mapset xD
2014-12-27 03:10 zkf: lol
2014-12-27 03:11 [-MrSergio-]: To be honest I've met a few people willing to see this map finished so I have to end it no matter what xD
2014-12-27 03:11 [-MrSergio-]: But my mapping times are horrible =.=
2014-12-27 03:11 [-MrSergio-]: I can take an entire day for just 3 secs
2014-12-27 03:11 zkf: Actually
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: That's why it took me 2 months to do the Extra
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: How much time do you have right now=?
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Well...
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: NOthing to do
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: Nothin to do?
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: Time for my first IRC mod I heard?
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Yep x
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: xD
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Alright then :3
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: Let's do this shiez
2014-12-27 03:12 zkf: It's my first one, so I might be a bit slow
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: :3
2014-12-27 03:12 [-MrSergio-]: Don't worry
2014-12-27 03:13 [-MrSergio-]: I'm not in a hurry :3
2014-12-27 03:13 zkf: If you got other things to do at one point, say so and I'll open notepad
2014-12-27 03:13 zkf: Alright, we'll start with the Hard k?
2014-12-27 03:13 [-MrSergio-]: Fine :3
2014-12-27 03:13 zkf: 00:00:282 (1) - I think I'd end the slider where the 3 starts - makes a good blanket directly at the start
2014-12-27 03:13 [-MrSergio-]: Maybe this mod will give me some creativity to end the other diffs xD
2014-12-27 03:14 [-MrSergio-]: Oh, I see what you mean
2014-12-27 03:14 [-MrSergio-]: A moment
2014-12-27 03:14 zkf: 00:08:510 (1) - This feels a little bit "forced" for a hard imo. The beat isn't that strong, and players on that level could easily be confused by that
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: First done
2014-12-27 03:15 zkf: But it's your choice if you want to keep it
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah, that was tricky :/
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: 00:07:482 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Probably I'll chenga all of this
2014-12-27 03:15 zkf: 00:13:996 (2) - I'd say put the note directly behind the end of 1, makes it look a bit better
2014-12-27 03:15 [-MrSergio-]: change*
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: Hm, maybe throw in a slider somewhere there.
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: 00:10:224 (1) - Here. Yep.
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: Might feel good to have a slider there
2014-12-27 03:16 [-MrSergio-]: In the Extra there's a slider there
2014-12-27 03:16 zkf: Yeah, and I think it feels more nice there
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: I'll change it with all the pattern before
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: Not sure if you want to change the pattern before that
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: Sicne I have to think about a good pattern
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: The notes there feel good imo.
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: Those circles are too random :/
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: Sometimes randomness is needed.
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah, but I feel like I need more order
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: At least that's what I think lol.
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: I'll keep in mind both solutions anyway :3
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: Too much randomness and you end up wtih #BLAME<NAME>2014 LOL
2014-12-27 03:17 zkf: you know that map?
2014-12-27 03:17 [-MrSergio-]: And I agree with you on that :3
2014-12-27 03:18 [-MrSergio-]: Yep xD
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: it's like somebody just puked in the editor
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: it's horrific
2014-12-27 03:18 [-MrSergio-]: He's my friend xD
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: anyhow
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: LOL
2014-12-27 03:18 zkf: 00:22:910 (4) - No need to break the flow here :P that means that the following note has to be adjusted tho
2014-12-27 03:19 [-MrSergio-]: So Ctrl + G I suppose..?
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Yeah.
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: But the next note needs to be adjusted
2014-12-27 03:19 [-MrSergio-]: Nice
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Oh.
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Simple fix.
2014-12-27 03:19 zkf: Put 00:23:253 (1) - over 00:22:739 (3) -
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: Actually
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: Crap, that's DS2 too.
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: Over 00:22:053 (2) - might fit.
2014-12-27 03:20 zkf: nah these notes are too close. Dammit.
2014-12-27 03:21 [-MrSergio-]: how about 00:22:567 (2) - ?
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: That's DS2.7
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: For a hard, I don't think that's good. LOL
2014-12-27 03:21 [-MrSergio-]: Hm...
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: I think you possibly need to remap a short part there. I can't find a quick solution :/
2014-12-27 03:21 zkf: Or just wait for a different mod.
2014-12-27 03:22 [-MrSergio-]: yeah, I notice
2014-12-27 03:22 [-MrSergio-]: noticed*
2014-12-27 03:22 [-MrSergio-]: I'll put a bookmark and I'll think out
2014-12-27 03:22 zkf: For fucks sake, I lost the other thing I wanted to note.
2014-12-27 03:22 zkf: I suck at IRC modding, kill me.
2014-12-27 03:23 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:23 [-MrSergio-]: Don't worry too much
2014-12-27 03:23 zkf: 00:26:339 (1,2,3) - Skipping the red ticks feels a bit weird. I pressed 2 at the first red tick out of listening to the music, maybe making it some short singletaps might feel good
2014-12-27 03:23 zkf: Just not too spaced
2014-12-27 03:25 [-MrSergio-]: 00:26:853 - I added a note just here
2014-12-27 03:25 zkf: Maybe like this. It feels a bit hard, so maybe a bit smaller
2014-12-27 03:25 zkf: http://puu.sh/dKM7U/ab4ce2ff4e.jpg
2014-12-27 03:25 [-MrSergio-]: Since 00:26:510 - was too close
2014-12-27 03:25 [-MrSergio-]: I thought about the same thing
2014-12-27 03:26 [-MrSergio-]: But 5 feels awkward..
2014-12-27 03:26 zkf: Hm, not so sure. Maybe I'm just the guy who listens too much to the music itself. LOL
2014-12-27 03:26 zkf: Anyhow
2014-12-27 03:27 zkf: 00:41:082 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - Putting the yellow 3 under a previous stream could fuck with a player on that level really hard
2014-12-27 03:27 [-MrSergio-]: Hm....
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: Possible fixc
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: Replace 00:42:110 (1,2,3,4,1) - with a straight slide from 1 to 1
2014-12-27 03:28 [-MrSergio-]: Alright, I did a strange curve xD
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: Oh wait.
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: That overlaps with the slider
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: So maybe move 00:42:796 (1) - to the slider start
2014-12-27 03:28 zkf: and then apply the fix
2014-12-27 03:30 zkf: Like this: http://puu.sh/dKMs0/e5f7c7d2a2.jpg
2014-12-27 03:30 [-MrSergio-]: I wanted to keep that curve, so I did like [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2392894 this]
2014-12-27 03:30 zkf: Something really minor that I however noticed while playing
2014-12-27 03:31 zkf: 00:49:653 (2,3,4) - The distance between 2,3 and 3,4 isn't equal
2014-12-27 03:31 zkf: Astethics are a pretty big point in easy maps as a lot of them are used as warmup
2014-12-27 03:31 zkf: Looks good.
2014-12-27 03:32 [-MrSergio-]: I thought I had put it well enough those sliders...let me re-check...
2014-12-27 03:32 zkf: 00:57:539 (5,3) - A litte overlap, although not that noticable
2014-12-27 03:32 zkf: If you want just ignore it and fix it if anybody else notices lol
2014-12-27 03:32 zkf: #thelazyway
2014-12-27 03:33 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: 00:59:767 (4,5) - Putting these notes over the same place doesn't go with the music imp
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: imo*
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: The music says "jump" for me at that point
2014-12-27 03:33 [-MrSergio-]: Fixed, the previooud overlap
2014-12-27 03:33 [-MrSergio-]: previous*
2014-12-27 03:33 zkf: Also 01:00:110 (5) - being unmapped throws me off for some reason
2014-12-27 03:34 [-MrSergio-]: That's right
2014-12-27 03:34 zkf: Maybe a slider from 00:59:939 - to 01:00:110 - ?
2014-12-27 03:35 zkf: 01:00:110 (5,1) - Overlap here o:
2014-12-27 03:35 zkf: Every hidden player will hit this on the white tick I think.
2014-12-27 03:36 [-MrSergio-]: Yep, I fixed it alreay
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: yeah
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: just moving it to the white one
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: fixes it
2014-12-27 03:36 [-MrSergio-]: But that slider feels off, since I used the bass as the base instrument
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: Could add a note at the now free red tick.
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: Right above the start of the slider.
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: If puu.sh would upload..
2014-12-27 03:36 zkf: http://puu.sh/dKMQS/57787e6e21.jpg
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: 01:07:139 (4) - That's so mean to hidden players w/o followpoints xD
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: Literally dozens were affected.
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: Sorry elysion!
2014-12-27 03:37 zkf: Althogh I don't think at that level anybody uses a special skin.
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: So I think you can leave it in
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: FoI remember from my playtest that I hit this in opposite direction because it fits more with the flow
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: Oh
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: 01:08:339 (4,5) -
2014-12-27 03:38 zkf: I meant this. LOL. forgot the copy.
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: Just reverse 4 and 5 and it should be good
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: 'Actually I hated that
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: Hm?
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: I'll remove the 4 from under the slider
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: Ctrl + H
2014-12-27 03:39 [-MrSergio-]: ?
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: On what note?
2014-12-27 03:39 zkf: Oh on the pattern?
2014-12-27 03:40 zkf: Sure I guess.
2014-12-27 03:40 [-MrSergio-]: 01:08:339 (4,5) - ']
2014-12-27 03:40 [-MrSergio-]: 5 will remain udner his slider
2014-12-27 03:40 [-MrSergio-]: under*
2014-12-27 03:40 zkf: Like this?http://puu.sh/dKN2N/72eed7eb39.jpg
2014-12-27 03:40 zkf: Not so sure what you mean
2014-12-27 03:41 [-MrSergio-]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2392922
2014-12-27 03:41 zkf: 01:11:596 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Imo just spamming reverse sliders in kiai doesn't transmit the "kiai" feeling
2014-12-27 03:41 zkf: Oh yeah that looks good.
2014-12-27 03:42 zkf: Really good.
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: I knew it xD
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: Those repeats are ubearable
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: But I had nothing better to put there xD
2014-12-27 03:42 zkf: I think the entire kiai needs to be remapped there
2014-12-27 03:42 zkf: One sec, I'll think of something quickly okay.
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: I thought "Hey, an easy part. Let's make it with sliders"
2014-12-27 03:42 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:43 [-MrSergio-]: Worst decision ever xD
2014-12-27 03:43 zkf: Note at 01:11:596 -
2014-12-27 03:43 zkf: Slider from 01:11:767 - to 01:11:939 -
2014-12-27 03:44 zkf: Reverse slider at 01:12:024 - to 01:12:196 - with reverse point 01:12:110 -
2014-12-27 03:44 zkf: Note at 01:12:282 -
2014-12-27 03:44 zkf: Same timed reversed slider at 01:12:453 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: Note at 01:12:796 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: 01:12:882 - and 01:12:967 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: Short 1/4 slider at 01:13:139 -
2014-12-27 03:45 zkf: actually no, 1/2 slider there
2014-12-27 03:46 zkf: or a reverser, your decision.
2014-12-27 03:46 zkf: 01:13:396 - 1/4 slider 2x reversed
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: copy + move the just created slider to 01:13:396 -
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: uh
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: i meant
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: 01:13:739 -
2014-12-27 03:47 zkf: sorry
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: simple note at 01:14:167 -
2014-12-27 03:48 [-MrSergio-]: Hm....it's a good rhythm
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: and my ideas are running out
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: but you get the idea
2014-12-27 03:48 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: break it up a bit
2014-12-27 03:48 [-MrSergio-]: But i need some time to think about the patterns xD
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: 01:15:710 (1) - this part here is perfect.
2014-12-27 03:48 zkf: fits really good.
2014-12-27 03:49 zkf: just don't try to end it there, you can simply move it - its right before a break
2014-12-27 03:49 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:49 [-MrSergio-]: Bookmarked this one too
2014-12-27 03:49 zkf: 01:22:567 (1,2,3) - Ouchies, that overlap doesn't fit with the song at all imo
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: I wanted to make something different xD
2014-12-27 03:50 zkf: 01:25:310 (1,2) - I'd say repeat the previous timing, just a different pattern
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: Anyway, gotta change it
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: Pretty ugly :v ^
2014-12-27 03:50 [-MrSergio-]: I mean, my option is pretty ugly
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: It's not ugly.
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: No
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: It's really well placed actually, like a proper overlap should be
2014-12-27 03:51 [-MrSergio-]: No, I really hate them since they stand out too much xD
2014-12-27 03:51 [-MrSergio-]: 01:25:310 (1,2) -
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: Hm?
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: Oh you mean these.
2014-12-27 03:51 zkf: OH
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: I was referring to those sliders
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: :P
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: God dammit.
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: I thought youre tlaking about 01:22:567 (1,2,3) -
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: LOL
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: That's why I linked thetiming xD
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: Yeah these are...
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: uh
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: like I said
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: Repeat the previous timing with a different pattern
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: and you're fine
2014-12-27 03:52 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 03:52 zkf: 01:32:510 (2,3) - No need to break the flow here, switch em on the timeline
2014-12-27 03:53 zkf: 01:33:539 (1) - Again the reverser spam doesn't fit until 01:37:653 (1) -
2014-12-27 03:53 zkf: You'll probaly need to bookmark and do this later.
2014-12-27 03:54 zkf: I can't give you directions for that, you need to find your own style
2014-12-27 03:54 [-MrSergio-]: Yes, absolutely
2014-12-27 03:54 zkf: 01:54:110 (1,2) - Feels a bit "too" curvy imo
2014-12-27 03:54 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 03:55 [-MrSergio-]: Again my creativity xD
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: 02:03:367 (5) - Elysions small brother says fuck you xD
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: jk
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: Hidden notes under sliders, we both love them.
2014-12-27 03:55 [-MrSergio-]: Well...I paly always HD so these notes look normal for me, that's why xD
2014-12-27 03:55 [-MrSergio-]: play*
2014-12-27 03:55 zkf: Yeah, but don't worry about it.
2014-12-27 03:56 zkf: Maps are judged based on the default skin which has followpoints.
2014-12-27 03:56 zkf: If somebody removes followpoints these notes are their own problem.
2014-12-27 03:56 zkf: 02:03:710 (1,3) - I'd say rotate 3 a bit more
2014-12-27 03:56 [-MrSergio-]: yep, it doens't stand out enough
2014-12-27 03:57 zkf: 02:09:539 (2) - Blanket time? http://puu.sh/dKO41/e3cb9a025d.jpg
2014-12-27 03:58 zkf: Just need to adjust 3 and 4 a bit then. Move 3 to the end of 3, and then Ctrl+G on 3&4
2014-12-27 03:58 [-MrSergio-]: It was already a blanket with the other sliders xD
2014-12-27 03:59 zkf: Crap I alrady playtested
2014-12-27 03:59 zkf: Undohistory gone.
2014-12-27 03:59 zkf: Gotta redl
2014-12-27 04:00 [-MrSergio-]: 3 & 4 were meant to make a blanket with both side sliders
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: The original blanket doesn't stand out imp
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: imo+
2014-12-27 04:00 [-MrSergio-]: 3 blankets 2 and 4 balnkets 1
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: Yeah I see, but it doesn't stand out too much imo
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: Maybe make 1 and 2 more curvy?
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: Like, shorter and more to the sides
2014-12-27 04:00 [-MrSergio-]: Hm...
2014-12-27 04:00 zkf: and then readjust the existing blanket
2014-12-27 04:01 zkf: 02:13:996 (3,4,5) - My completely own opinion: Switch 4&5 on the timeline, then make the now existing 4 on the other side of the "triangle"
2014-12-27 04:01 zkf: imo that flows a bit better
2014-12-27 04:02 [-MrSergio-]: The exact flow of the previous triangle
2014-12-27 04:02 [-MrSergio-]: (y)
2014-12-27 04:02 zkf: What previous triangle?
2014-12-27 04:02 [-MrSergio-]: ops, wrong thing xD
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: 02:14:682 (1,2,3) - Either make all sliders curvy or all straight, throwing a straight one in the middle feels clunky
2014-12-27 04:03 [-MrSergio-]: 01:08:167 (3,4,5) -
2014-12-27 04:03 [-MrSergio-]: it's similar to this
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: Didn't you do this differently?
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: You modified this locally and screenshotted it
2014-12-27 04:03 zkf: and I don't think that was a triangle was it
2014-12-27 04:04 [-MrSergio-]: In the end, it was xD
2014-12-27 04:04 zkf: well, it doesn't matter if it's the same
2014-12-27 04:04 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: just do what you think feels good, but somehow get rid of the hidden note under the slider I think
2014-12-27 04:05 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah :/
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: 02:17:397 - I think I don't need to say anything o:
2014-12-27 04:05 [-MrSergio-]: I didn;t consider this when I mapped it
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: Same part as the other reversers
2014-12-27 04:05 [-MrSergio-]: I'll search for the other hidden notes
2014-12-27 04:05 zkf: Everything after 02:21:539 (1) - is fine again
2014-12-27 04:06 zkf: Hidden note at 02:25:139 (4) - is fine btw
2014-12-27 04:06 [-MrSergio-]: Yeah, taht part was something that was really random
2014-12-27 04:06 zkf: feels good with the flow
2014-12-27 04:08 zkf: 02:25:653 (1,2,3,4) - a) Select the entire 1-4 pattern. b) Move it so 2 starts at the previous pink 4. c) Move the start of 3 to the start of 1, and the start of 4 to the start of 2 d) Instant 300 bpm Freedom dive deathst-wrong part of the internet
2014-12-27 04:09 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 04:09 [-MrSergio-]: I love the last part xD
2014-12-27 04:09 zkf: 02:27:539 (3,1) - Dem overlaps doe. Just copy the slider from 02:29:082 (2) - and move it to 1 so the start/end point is the same
2014-12-27 04:10 zkf: 02:29:767 (1,2) - A straight jump down feels too stale here I think
2014-12-27 04:11 zkf: Possible fix : http://puu.sh/dKOOo/6d079ba455.jpg
2014-12-27 04:12 [-MrSergio-]: I did the same thing xD
2014-12-27 04:12 zkf: 02:37:653 (4) - I'd say move this like that: http://puu.sh/dKORH/ebeb45a3c2.jpg
2014-12-27 04:12 [-MrSergio-]: Even without the screenshot xD
2014-12-27 04:12 zkf: 02:39:367 (1) - You know what to do
2014-12-27 04:12 zkf: until 02:43:482 (1) -
2014-12-27 04:13 [-MrSergio-]: Yep
2014-12-27 04:13 [-MrSergio-]: Already bookmarked
2014-12-27 04:13 zkf: 02:49:996 (1,2,3) - Imo remove 1&2, move the slider to the previous 1, and extend it 2x
2014-12-27 04:14 zkf: Maybe just extend it 1x instead of 2x
2014-12-27 04:14 zkf: And put a note at the last tick
2014-12-27 04:14 zkf: Like 02:47:596 (2) -
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: yep
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: I did that
2014-12-27 04:15 zkf: 02:55:653 (6) - DS2.5 to next note. u_u
2014-12-27 04:15 zkf: 02:58:224 (1) - Another point for a "remove the last slider tick and put a note"
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: lol
2014-12-27 04:15 [-MrSergio-]: Fixed xD
2014-12-27 04:16 zkf: and I think we're done with the hard
2014-12-27 04:16 [-MrSergio-]: (y)
Thanks a lot. It was really helpful since we pointed out a lot of basic errors I tend to commit xD
Kyuuten
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Kyuuten
Slave:



no please

btw good luck (another time) with the map
Seijiro
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Seijiro

Kamanezu wrote:

Slave:



no please

btw good luck (another time) with the map
Why not? ._.
uNable
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uNable
hi, please adjust your offset

offset: 232
Seijiro
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Seijiro
Hm....are you sure?

I checked it a lot and a lot of people tested it without saying anything on this (some were ex BATs and some are still BN, so...)

Sorry, the timing is correct from my point of view, so no change on this
uNable
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uNable
um, i don't know what kind of "BATs" are you talking about because that offset sounds really delayed, well it is up to you to change it ^^

edit: i got the old mp3, now i redownloaded and it sounds good, sorry! :(
Cloudless
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Hey
Only modding Slave i guess



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There is are some hitsound inconsistency, Idk if this is intentional but are all of 00:57:196 (1,2,3,4,5) that rhythm suppose to have a clap on 1,3 and 5?
00:12:967 (2) - DS snap this
00:40:396 (3) - Shouldnt this slider look like 00:34:910 (3) and 00:29:424 (1) ?
00:43:482 (1) - I think a stream here to that slider with the reverse arrow would have been more appropriate here
00:47:767 (3) - I would make this a straight slider and make it parallel with (4)
From 00:57:196 (1) - to 01:11:596 (1) - There are these 5 beat rhythm that constantly occur. Sooo, you have been using 2 different ways to express this rhythm, One being the simple 5 hitcircles and the other having 2 sliders and a hitcircle. But the problem I think is that they are put in randomly. What I would recommend for this part is to alternate between them especially at the beginning part. This kind of introduces the player to the 2 different rhythm you will be using throughout the whole beatmap. Now it would be pretty redundant to have this consistent alternating pattern through to whole song so I would constantly being using JUST one of the rhythms from 01:18:453 (2) to 01:33:367 (1) and so on, using a the other rhythm you didnt choose for every section that is similar with that part of the song, which are the parts after that have the Kiai time that shows up for a second. There is also isnt a set pattern for the triplet rhythm like 00:56:339 (1,2,3) . Whether it is stacked or not, whether it is expressed with a slider or hitcircle. It seems as if they were just randomly picked.
00:55:824 (1,2,3,4,5) - Replace this with a copy of 00:55:310 (2,3,4,5,6) and rotate it, it is a bit uneven
00:57:710 (1,2,3) - DS the triplet
01:01:310 (1,2,3,4,5) - I dont agree with the stacking when you already established a theme of NOT stacking these streams, and if you followed what I talked about with the 2 different ways of expressing this part and alternating, i should be 2 sliders and 1 hitcircle here
01:21:882 (1,2,3,4,5) - why stack?
01:49:996 (1) - I would remove clap
01:52:739 (1) - ^
01:54:110 (1) - ^
01:58:910 (1,2,3,4) - This should be replaced with 01:58:224 (1,2,3,4) but just DSed and Ctrl + G and maybe Rotated
02:14:510 (1,2,3,4) - You should place this around the map more, Its a nice change of pace and you wouldnt be using something like 02:33:710 (1,2,3,4,5) literally through the whole map set. There is a clear line between consistency and redundancy.

Hopefully this helps :D
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