I think this will be a bad idea for 1-2 mode players... But still a good idea for showing who's the best for all of the gamemodes...
I think it's kind of the opposite - this will be motivating for players to play other mods too! Main division into ranking systems depending on the game mode will remain anyway, so I think that there are no real upsides from having it and it would definitely benefit community and players!
Tanomoshii Nekojou wrote:I think this will be a bad idea for 1-2 mode players... But still a good idea for showing who's the best for all of the gamemodes...
Wow. This one is also a good idea...
Scarlet Evans wrote:But after you said that, I think that Ranking boards could be even more improved, to please 2-3 mode players too, i.e. aside of the Total (Cumultative) Rank, there should be an option to simply "filter" Ranking Boards with some criteria, where the most basic ones we can think of are: game modes.
What I mean here is allowing to choose which modes exactly we want to see, so someone could check top ranks from mania+CTB, taiko+CTB+mania, std+mania etc. Of course, you would be able to check your own rank too.
Edgar_Figaro wrote:(Standard PP + Taiko PP + CTB PP + Mania PP) - (standard deviation * 2) = Cumulative PP ranking
I don't get why this is necessary to make cumulative ranking work. I guess I can understand making "omnithlon" active on their account so people who don't want to see it don't have to (don't really get why it's a problem but OK) but I don't get why people would need to select it each time they play, FC maps twice, or have a penalty like NF. I completely agree PP needs to be normalized or weighted in some way as the whole point of this would be to showcase players who are good in multiple modes and not just having a ton of PP in a mode that awards alot more than the others (<cough>Mania<cough>)
Citremi wrote:The first option is to, instead of make omnithlon a mode you have to select, just make it an option somewhere that you want to make this score count for your omnithlon score. This would let people who play the game more casually not get frustrated by having to FC the map twice, and I like this option best as it avoids other possible frustrations the players might get if the second option is chosen.
The second option is to stick to the idea of how NF is handled, and give the user a penalty for submitting a score for omnithlon while having a different game mode selected, but give them the option anyway at the score screen. You could go to the extreme with this and just prevent the score for counting for omnithlon if that mode isn't selected, but then you would have to FC a map twice if you like to polish both your main ranking and your omnithlon ranking.
Oh, I didn't think about just having active rank in multiple game modes. I guess that is another way to handle it.
Edgar_Figaro wrote:I personally think anyone who has active rank in 2+ modes should be added to the cumulative ranking and it should be normalized in a way so an extremely skilled player in Taiko & Standard is equal to an extremely skilled player in CTB & Mania. I will admit the method I made using standard deviation is still not a perfect system as it doesn't account for difficulty to achieve certain PP values, but it is alot better than a straight addition as it prevents single mode players from being extremely highly ranked.