Kuo Kyoka wrote:

And, this is my check too, i think Marirose doesnt have reduce score when this map got pop-bubble by creator! And Marirose didnt needs to rebubble it after 2nd BN's check!
Good luck for all! last day before the next month, yah, im 50% going to be kick on BN's group

YaHao wrote:

4K NM(Lv.7)
00:13:065 (13065|2,13236|1,13408|2,13751|2,13922|1,14093|2,14436|2,14608|1,14779|2) - CTRL+H一下，这样能和00:12:893 (12893|3) - 这颗note区分开来，一个是主音一个是snare drum，楼梯的话容易给人一种混在一起的感觉。而且换了之后00:14:436 (14436|2,14779|2,14951|3,15122|3) - 也不会太压在右手
00:22:665 (22665|2,22836|1) - 可以jack，感觉是同样pitch。而且毕竟是简化了1/4所以放在同一个col可以加强整体强度来体现那个感觉
00:38:265 (38265|1) - 我是不建议jack这颗note，相比这个部分其他的jacks （00:37:579 (37579|0,37751|0,37922|0,38436|1,38608|1,38951|1,39122|1) - ），都有带主音，唯独这颗没有（只有snare）。玩的时候会觉得突然怪一下
01:28:322 - 整体音乐是在01:29:693 - 之后才有减弱，提前进入break感觉不太好，建议吧01:28:665 - 01:29:008 - 01:29:351 - 都加个，这些音还是挺明显的
02:14:265 (134265|3,134436|3,134608|1,134779|1) - CTRL+J，也不是大问题就是同只手连续两个jacks有点不舒服

Critical_Star wrote:

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about the diff name i don't think bracket are necessary, try use 4K MX Lv.14 etc
deleted the Level number...emmm...

4K NM(Lv.7)
00:01:922 - till 00:14:265 - i see your intention but i would say the pattern should be swapped with the HD diff. HD is slightly easier to play compared to NM →Just want make NM different from HD. This pattern is not too hard for NM and HD is Generally harder than NM. So I want to keep it.
00:33:808 (33808|1,33979|2) - move to the left by 1? →no change
01:24:551 (84551|1) - move to 1 for consistent 1/1 jack note →OK

01:55:236 (115236|1) - feel a little off here, there is no noticeable broken stream for this part, would suggest make 1/2 stream here then, till 01:57:122 -
01:57:122 (117122|2,117465|0,117808|1,118151|2) - suggestion > 01:57:293 (117293|2,117636|0,117979|1,118322|2) - how about it?
02:06:379 - why not just continue the beats here, it is still noticeable

About this pattern...i just sync on the melody at the lower-layer. These melody sound form 01:53:008 - to 02:09:465 - is a little similar to 00:56:779 - . I've added some LN here to make here more explicit.

4K HD(Lv.12)
00:55:579 (55579|0,55665|1,55751|2,55922|0,56008|1,56093|2,56265|1,56351|2,56436|3,56608|1,56693|2) - suggestion > http://puu.sh/xn3RB/8009162492.png
→OK
01:06:893 - u could give a note for kick here as well →not syncing on kick sound in this section. So no change.
01:24:551 (84551|1) - like my suggestion before in NM, u could move to 1 →OK
01:55:065 (115065|1,115151|0,115236|1,115322|2,115408|3,115493|2,115579|1,115665|0) - suggestion > http://puu.sh/xn3VW/bac8e3ad44.png
→OK


4K MX(Lv.14)
00:18:379 - double for crash here won't hurt a lot →no change
00:24:551 - 00:26:951 - missing double note i assume, and so on with the similiar part, it does have the melody + beat here too like you did for the rest double here →no change
01:07:751 - add 1 more note at 2 could be nice →no change
02:14:179 (134179|3,134179|1,134265|2,134265|0,134351|3,134351|1,134436|0,134436|2,134522|1,134522|3,134608|2,134608|0,134693|3,134693|1,134779|0,134779|2,134865|1,134865|3) - suggestion > http://puu.sh/xn47D/c9dda8d9f2.png →OK

LordRaika's 5K NM(Lv.9)
01:18:893 (78893|3,79236|4,79579|3,79922|4,80265|3,80608|4,80951|3,81293|4) - it is 1/2 length →OK
01:21:979 (81979|2,82322|1,82665|3,83008|0,83351|4) - ^ →no change
01:52:665 (112665|4,112751|3,112836|2,112922|1) - 1/2 stream will work better here →no change

5K HD(Lv.12)
00:56:093 (56093|3,56093|0,56265|2,56351|3,56436|4,56608|1,56693|2) - suggest a full 1/4 stream here →OK

5K MX(Lv.15)
01:07:751 - u can add 1 more note at 4 →no change

Mentholzzz wrote:

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I think the song name should be "First Gate OVERDRIVE" instead becasue of cytus score sharing system in twitter, this and this

Minseo2000 wrote:

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perhaps a better quality BG might make the map better?

juankristal wrote:

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I mean, I hate being rude and all that but there are serious playable issues here and I dont think this is ready yet.













Just to name some examples. I know the map is old and all that but this is just a big enough flag for me to pop this bubble.

That and the spread is a big issue here. It needs to be fixed.

For the 5K difficulties even though there is some sort of symetry concept applied its not pitch relevant, its anchor heavy and the music doesnt really support such concepts enough to justify the way its executed. The symetry can still be done but should be done in a more reasonable way (trying to avoid some anchors at leasts and maybe even trying to be pitch relevant).

The 4K difficulties have weird anchors again and it doesnt help that most of the jumptrills used are split handed. That creates a huge spike compared to the previous difficulty and makes it overall really annoying and awkward to play instead of challenging or fun. I dont really see reasons of why the map should be teh way it is because its not following any clear path (at least in my eyes).

Of course, if you can explain all this choices yourself I will look at them and reconsider my thoughts but for now I think the map is not quite there yet.

Kawawa wrote:

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Hello!! I saw the map coincidentally.
This is an opinion.
It based on what Juan said.

[5K OVERDRIVE]
The part Image
It's kinda true that the bursket is uncomfortable to mostly player.
but let's change the idea.
as the bursket pattern is maintained It can gives a practice way though various chart.
It actually does not provide a reason that It's done unreasoably.
like 8K Xeus - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/529212 // chart - https://puu.sh/xnOvk/d8766a3031.jpg
And the most desirable way is few suggestions to here, as not just a comment it.
Feedback :: Image

Another bursket Image
I think the repetition of the trill did not convey the feeling well how it goes feel for the music. but up to you. It's valid to me at least.
Feedback :: Image

The jack part Image1 Image2
I think this works pretty well. after triple-jack, a space gives a break time for the next jacks.
And the structure of this map is that it showed early jack-hammer. It is really rationally constructed.
I think that this is not a problem because I have a skill that can reasonably judge this.
In my opinion, It's just a different on each thinking how it will be accepted to others. as one of player.
This is a my opinion for this anyway.

[4K MX]
I agree to juan about Image
The first is I also don't think it is necessary to honestly have the meaning to abuse Trill.
It did not convey a good feeling to me. It actually can provide a better way.
Feedback :: Image

Image The second is, It doesn't really make much meaning.
Anyway the fact that the pattern is too biased in the right hand. would be better If it balanced.

I hope it helpful to you.

Thank you for your mod! It's very useful.

biemote wrote:

Minseo2000 wrote:

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perhaps a better quality BG might make the map better?

????200*133???Are you sure???

Minseo2000 wrote:

it's 2048x1366??? Wikia for some reason gives you a small thumbnail on the first load on some browsers but it should properly show a 2048x1366 image on reload.

w/e
here's a 1799x1200 version so you don't have to go through the hassle of downsizing it

biemote wrote:

Mentholzzz wrote:

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I think the song name should be "First Gate OVERDRIVE" instead becasue of cytus score sharing system in twitter, this and this

About this title...imo just keeping this is OK. I've searched for the true title for this song. But it's regretful that there's only the originnal First Gate on NeLiME's soundcloud.
And the song name on rayark's share system is still in doubt cuz cytus never write their song name probably. emmm...

Mentholzzz wrote:

well, where did u get this name (First Gate ~OVERDRIVE~) , "First Gate OVERDRIVE" is used in the old twitter share system which is automatically text from the game , so the song name should be the official one imo