1. NEL's Platter (3,1 stars, 200 notes)
2. NEL's Salad (1,96 stars, 174 notes)
3. Platter (3,3 stars, 262 notes)
4. Rain (4,1 stars, 278 notes)

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NEL's salad by Takuneru
Platter by myself
NEL's platter by Takuneru
Rain by myself

lordraika wrote:

^^b
GL on Ranked

QHideaki13 wrote:

Cool, I was waiting for a CtB mapset from this song.

Poke me when you get this to Pending.

Takuneru wrote:

Sup Kyu !
Let's get to modding !
-warning french-English ahead-
[General]
Met un preview point. (en haut, timing)
Pour le reste, le mapset sera assez équilibré si tu appliques mon mod (platter à 5.65 stars, soit quasi au milieu entre la salad et ma platter)
Ta rain peut sans doute être plus dure, sans abuser d'h-dash, jsuis sur qu'on peut en enlever certains.

[Platter]
Je vais pas modder ma platter ce serait débile, donc je vais modder la tienne huhu
Comme je t'ai dit, une plus simple serait cool, et c'est pas mal, c'est le cas '^'
Mais il y a des passages trop durs/space ou juste à modifier pour être mieux. En général tu as trop de h dash en 1/4. (ou simplement trop de 1/4)
Par contre sympa tes streams. ça change de mon style qui en utilise peu =w=.
so
HP 7. wowowowowowowo
met 5 ou 6 plutôt je pense, ta Rain fait déjà 6 !
00:18:868 (3,4,1) - je les ai placés différemment perso, le spacing me paraît trop brutal. J'ai aussi changé une note : http://puu.sh/aQU73/39bd87956d.jpg
00:30:575 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - changé le spacing de tout ces objets pour éviter des h dashes, il me paraissent soudains encore une fois : http://puu.sh/aQUwk/0350c353f0.jpg , http://puu.sh/aQUyx/5a813f259d.jpg
00:33:510 (3,1) - le h dash ici est pas gentil et pas joli ><
j'ai fait ça : http://puu.sh/aQUKe/dd891bf8aa.jpg l'idée est de rendre le petit slider plus simple d'accès.
00:34:977 (2) - enlève le whistle à la fin
00:35:303 (3) - place-le à x 212 for equal spacing
00:36:281 (5,6) - 5 à x 160 et 6 a x 420, plus sympa je pense et met un finish à 6
00:36:770 (1,2,3) - this way : http://puu.sh/aQVbC/2d560430e6.jpg
00:38:075 (6,1,2,3,4) - this way :http://puu.sh/aQVuD/23f975df44.jpg
00:39:868 (5,6,7,8) - again, like this : http://puu.sh/aQVB1/7f725d8471.jpg
ces changements sont faits pour que le flow soit meilleur (meilleur continuitée) et pour diminuer des spacings bizarres
00:43:944 (6) - clap
00:44:270 (1,2,3) - patterns trop méchantes ><. j'ai fait ça : http://puu.sh/aQVRd/3448163dba.jpg. un h-dash d'un seul coup en 1/4 c'est mal en platter, quand c'est fait comme ça ^^'
00:45:249 (4) - x 412
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - je les ais mis comme ça : http://puu.sh/aQW0E/2b5135280c.jpg car le 1 est encore une fois pas sympa en 1/4, soit plus gentil.
00:47:205 (1,2) - met les comme ça :http://puu.sh/aRdn9/facc86939e.jpg
00:48:509 (5,6,7) - met les comme ça (pour éviter un h-dash pas utile) : http://puu.sh/aRdpD/c5c820a3ea.jpg
00:49:488 (8) - Un cercle ici plutôt qu'un slide, avec un finish : je l'ai placé à x 168
00:49:814 (1,2,3,4) - j'ai modifié le spacing de ceux-là comme ça : (dashs pas utiles)
00:51:281 (5,6,7) - modifié en accordance avec ma modif du dessus, le dash est un peu moins long et les cercles ne sont plus statiques : http://puu.sh/aRdA6/e78489b5e8.jpg
00:52:749 (3) - j'ai changé un peu sa courbe comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdEe/9ee0f3f41b.jpg
00:53:238 (4,5) - 4 à 292 x et 5 à 512x
00:53:564 (6) - à 328x et j'ai raccourci le slider de sorte qu'il commence à ici : 00:53:890 (1) - (sinon le rythme est pas bon owo). j'ai laissé vide le tick blanc à 00:53:727-, je te conseille de le faire aussi
et j'ai placé le slider à x 208, il faut donc replacer les circles après
Beaucoup trop de notes après ! garde ce genre de note density pour des rain.
00:57:314 (6) - met une note à la place, et met un finish dessus
00:56:988 (2,3,4,5,6) - je l'ai changé comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdIm/12951c4b02.jpg à toi de voir
00:57:640 (7) - NC
00:57:966 (9) - enlève NC
la zone d'après, je l'ai modifiée pour moins de notes et un rythme plus facile : http://puu.sh/aRdSO/66f4af1af5.jpg
00:59:923 (1,2,3,4) - plutôt comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdVf/d82aeb7d68.jpg
01:00:901 (5,6,7) - ^:http://puu.sh/aRdWg/288f63b1f0.jpg
01:01:961 (2,3,4) - maladroit à mon sens. le jump me paraît wowowow pour une platter, donc je te conseille de placer le 2 à x 368 le 3 à x308 et le 4 à x252.
01:03:673 (4) - modifie le slider pour qu'il atterrisse sur le red tick, et enlève le circle
01:04:651 (2) - change les deux cercles par un slider en diagonale
01:05:792 (6) - x 240
01:05:955 (7) - enlève-le
01:06:933 (1,2,3,1,2) - je les ais modifiés comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRe5U/daafc8f661.jpg
01:08:075 (2,3,1) - ça aussi : http://puu.sh/aRebw/333ff2052f.jpg
01:09:542 (3,4,5,6) - changé les spacings : http://puu.sh/aRef0/254b1577b2.jpg
01:13:129 (1) - NC
01:13:292 (1) - remove NC
01:13:944 (4,5) - Jump trop tight ! met le 4 a x 248 et en le curvant un peu et 5 a x 380 avec une jolie courbe aussi : http://puu.sh/aRehP/caad4e09b9.jpg
01:15:086 (2) - allonge le slider et enlève le cercle après. oublie pas le whistle sur le tick rouge à la fin
01:20:955- enlève le cercle
01:21:933 (5) - x 168 pour enlever le h-dash est faire un jump sympa. Sinon rapproche-le un tout petit peu pour garder le h-dash mais amoindrir la distance
si tu prends ma solution alors 01:22:423 (6) - à x 248
01:26:499 (4) - à X 84
01:27:151 (2) - x 228
01:27:314 (3,4,5) - trop loin ><. bouge-les tous ensemble en les selectionnant et met 3 à 364 pour que tout soit bien aligné.
Okay pour la platter. la fin a peut-être un peu trop de whistle...

Ah, par contre je m'excuse mais pour modder ta rain, avec l'auto c'est beaucoup plus compliqué, il faudrait que je teste vraiment... Donc quand je serais re chez moi ^^'
So yeah pour l'instant que la platter, mais je reviendrait pour modder la rain ! je te donnerais des idées par IRC en attendant . Je pense que niveau hitsounds tu peut faire plus sur la Rain.

Je te shoot deux stars pour mes deux difficultées, et une autre quand t'auras appliqué mon mod
let's Rank this. :3
PS : La plupart du mod a été fait offline haha

Takuneru wrote:

It's time~ It's time to mod this ~ (oui, j'ai vraiment fredonné ça en ouvrant la map, pls don't judge me)
Anyway
Il est temps de passer au mod de ta rain, et de ton apocalypse ^^. Je peux modder la rain sans problème, pour l'apocalypse ça sera sûrement un peu plus restreint (comme tu le sais je viens de revenir, nooby skill more nooby =w=)

So without further ado...

[General]


[Rain]
You really improved it, though some parts are wowowow. Donc jev ais te dire les parts qui me paraissent changeables ou qui ne flow pas exactement bien, ou encore certaines parties qui peuvent être même mieux !

00:01:499 (2) - Crée un H-dash ça fait cool . ça met un peu de diff sans trop en donner. j'ai placé le 2 à x 448 perso. k
00:15:414 (1) - Enlève le whistle sur le repeat k
00:26:662 (4) - t'as mis un 3eme point pas utile, enlève le au clic droit (en mettant ton curseur sur le point) pour qu'il soit plus "normal" : http://puu.sh/be6JP/a47034e26b.jpg Je l'avais pas vu ça xD
00:29:923 (4) - Plus loin que les autres, il part trop vers la gauche. j'ai mis à x 40 perso k
00:33:183 (7,8) - statique alors que y a du rythme en rain c'est space ^^'. j'ai mis 7 a x 128 et 8 a x 96 J'ai plutot mis 7 a 108 et 8 a 56, ça donne plus de forme (je crois o_o)
00:39:216 (2) - x 136 est mieux, car ça break le flow du reste si trop loin. Ouep t'as raison
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,1) - ça ne va pas :/. C'est pas rain ça c'est deluge 2.0 xD. si tu veut garder la même pattern je te conseille ça : http://puu.sh/be8dG/1241154208.jpg. c à dire 3 a x 144, 4 a x 376, et 1 a x 144 aussi. Malgré tout je trouve ça pas hyper intuitif, je pense que tu peut faire autre chose, si tu planche je te dirais quoi ^^. Ouais c'est vrai xD, j'ai penché pour ça : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991208
si tu fait ces changements, il faut changer la suite, car vu les h-dash d'avant, la suite est trop méchante !
00:47:042 (2) - x 248 k
00:47:205 (3) - x 316 k
00:47:531 (4) - x 204 k
tout ça aide à ce que la pattern d'avant ne sois pas trop troublante pour le reste.
00:48:183 (6) - J'aurais plutot mis ce slider comme ça :p : http://puu.sh/be9bk/60e42d15a3.jpg k
00:52:586 (2) - en utilisant ma technique sure-kill (lol), je le place à x 180, c'est niquel perso. J'ai carrement supprimer, j'ai vu que ça collai pas avec la musique, j'ai poser ça : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991225
00:54:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - J'aime beaucoup. J'ai pensé à un peu mieux, lookie : http://puu.sh/be9uN/3f31db9635.jpg Woo pomal
00:55:194 (5) - a x 416 pour créer un h-dash vers le triplet. bouge tout le triplet et place ainsi 6 a x 196
j'ai aussi bougé le reste pour que ça reste cohérent : 00:55:683 (9) - et 00:56:009 (1) - x 256 00:56:173 (2) - x 320 En tout ça me donne ça: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991280
00:57:314 (8) - x 352 pour le mouvement. k
00:57:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Je trouve ça brouillon vraiment... remplace soit par des sliders, soit regarde bien les distances et crée peut-être quelques h-dash, ou alors soit consistant dans tes jumps, là pas trop ^^'. ça fait un drôle de flow... Voilou: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991293
01:16:716 (3) - x 252 k
01:16:879 (4) - x 424 (crée un h-dash ainsi) k
01:16:879 (4) - remove clap a la base k
pas mal de changements ensuite : http://puu.sh/beajv/b5e05a5b91.jpg
01:19:488 (6) - j'ai remis le 6 ici et il est a x 216 k
01:19:814 (7) - x124 k
Pour la suite y a des dashs discutables, mais, même si je ne vais pas m'amuser à tout pointer, regarde bien; beaucoup de tes cercles à la fin sont durs car les distances varient en pleins triplet/stream ! C'est donc un peu random :/. Fait attention à ça. Ouki


[Apocalypse]
00:01:499 (2) - x 101 ça fait cool, je l'ai reverse comme ça : http://puu.sh/beata/ebefa59601.jpg
euh. par contre...
Beaucoup beaucoup de choses brouillons ;w;. ça serait long à modder..; je te pointerais certaines choses par IRC !

[Overall]
Nice nice Kyu ! En revanche peut-être qu'il faudra seulement link Apocalypse, il y a encore du travail à faire là-dessus je pense ^^'.
Good luck !
edit j'oublie des mots dans mes phrases, nice. ;w;

Manuxz Sixx wrote:

Hi owo/

NEL's Salad

00:27:966 (4) - Ctrl+G
00:28:618 (1) - Move to x:289
00:31:553 (1,2,3) - moves this to top that overlap with the previous notes and move this 00:31:553 (1) - to x:336
00:34:814 (4) - Move to x:384
00:35:303 (5) - Move to x:128
00:36:770 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - moves this to down that overlap with the previous notes -w-
00:37:586 (4,5) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhah6/f2b98f1a7e.jpg 00:37:586 (4) - x:368 and 00:37:912 (5) - x:144
00:46:716 (7) - Move to x:120
00:48:020 (4,5) - I recommend this http://puu.sh/bhaT0/8fa43e9153.jpg 00:48:020 (4) - x:176 and 00:48:346 (5) - x:161
00:54:216 (5) - Move to x:384 y:120
00:56:662 (3) - To be completely horizontal
01:01:227 (6) - Move to x:235
01:06:118 (2) - Ctrl+G?
01:07:096 (4) - Move to x:35
01:07:423 (5) - Move to x:256
01:13:944 (2,3,4) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhbTI/156cbbc914.jpg
01:18:020 (4) - Move to x:128
01:18:509 (5) - Move to x:288 and 01:18:673 (6) - x:224 and 01:18:999 (7) - x:384
01:21:933 (5) - Move to x:280
01:22:912 (8) - Move to x:193
01:25:520 (5) - Move to x:122

NEL's Platter

00:02:764 (4) - Move to x:160
00:09:631 (6) - try to do this slider http://puu.sh/bhdhd/1f05162bc3.jpg or http://puu.sh/bhdvr/4adfae580b.jpg and you could do more of those in the rest of the map xD
00:14:330 (7) - Move to x:176
00:21:406 (9) - Move to x:312
00:30:412 (4) - Move to x:256
00:32:531 (2) - ^
00:32:694 (3) - Move to x:72
00:38:075 (4) - Move to x:504
00:46:553 (2) - Move to x:107
00:50:792 (4) - To be completely horizontal
00:53:727 (6) - Move to x:166
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - all to be completely horizontal
00:59:923 (1,2,3) - Try other thing :s
01:00:901 (4,5) - ^
01:03:673 (4) - x:55 y:162
01:08:890 (4) - x:400
01:12:477 (6) - x:80
01:17:042 (3) - x:512
01:21:118 (3,4) - To be completely horizontal
01:21:933 (5,6) - Try to do this http://puu.sh/bhg6R/7e029a5e50.jpg


Platter

00:37:423 (4) - Move to x:196 y:272 Ok
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to use this patrion http://puu.sh/bhhE2/b0019a360f.jpg I had not thought of, thank you :3
00:53:727 (7) - Move to x:132 k
00:54:705 (1,2,3) - Consider adding jumps here >.< owo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1993348
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - 1) x:216 2) x:136 3) x:56 k
00:58:292 (4,5,6) - 4) x:136 5) x:215 6) x:294 k
00:58:944 (7,8,1) - 7) x:56 8) x:135 1) x:214 k
01:00:901 (5,6,7) - Ctrl+H thank you, I just learned a shortcut that will change my life
00:59:923 (1,2,3,4) - 1) x:364 2) x:310 3) x:256 4) x:309 k
01:09:542 (3,4,5,6) - Try to use this patrion http://puu.sh/bhjiT/9fe87f8842.jpg Ok
01:10:683 (3) - Move to x:256 k
01:21:933 (5) - Ctrl+G and move to x:160 thank you, I just learned a shortcut that will change my life

Rain

00:42:477 (2,3,4,5,6) - 2) x:208 3) x:352 4) x:160 5) x:304 6) x:208 Ok
00:43:292 (7) - Ctrl+G Ok *^*
00:46:390 (2) - Move to x:388 k
00:53:564 (5) - http://puu.sh/bhnwP/bb5e6f8878.jpg xD not how to explain in English but I think you get the picture D: Yup
01:01:961 (2) - Move to x:128?D: ok D:
01:07:749 (6) - Move to x:241 k
01:10:846 (4) - Move to x:224 k
01:11:009 (5) - Move to x:416 k
01:16:553 (2) - Move to x:300 k
01:27:803 (9) - Move to x:109 k
01:28:129 (1) - Move to x:192 k

Excellent diff, charm me owo Good luck to the guys map ^^

Manuxz Sixx wrote:

Hi owo/ Hi \owo

NEL's Salad

00:27:966 (4) - Ctrl+G I did, thank you !
00:28:618 (1) - Move to x:289 done
00:31:553 (1,2,3) - moves this to top that overlap with the previous notes and move this 00:31:553 (1) - to x:336 I reworked the pattern another way
00:34:814 (4) - Move to x:384 is fine the way it is =w=
00:35:303 (5) - Move to x:128 ^
00:36:770 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - moves this to down that overlap with the previous notes -w- I believe I've done what you mean =w=
00:37:586 (4,5) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhah6/f2b98f1a7e.jpg 00:37:586 (4) - x:368 and 00:37:912 (5) - x:144 did it and lowered the distances.
00:46:716 (7) - Move to x:120 silly meeeee
00:48:020 (4,5) - I recommend this http://puu.sh/bhaT0/8fa43e9153.jpg 00:48:020 (4) - x:176 and 00:48:346 (5) - x:161 I did it
00:54:216 (5) - Move to x:384 y:120 I did, slightly better, yes !
00:56:662 (3) - To be completely horizontal I prefer the way it is, sorry :/
01:01:227 (6) - Move to x:235 I did
01:06:118 (2) - Ctrl+G? I did and reworked the distance.
01:07:096 (4) - Move to x:35 I did
01:07:423 (5) - Move to x:256 silly me ~ thank you !
01:13:944 (2,3,4) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhbTI/156cbbc914.jpg hm... I prefer my pattern, sorry :/
01:18:020 (4) - Move to x:128 moved to x 116
01:18:509 (5) - Move to x:288 and 01:18:673 (6) - x:224 and 01:18:999 (7) - x:384 just reworked the distance of 7. seems fine to me
01:21:933 (5) - Move to x:280 I moved to x 320, I'd prefer a little jump here :p
01:22:912 (8) - Move to x:193 x 320 as well
01:25:520 (5) - Move to x:122 I moved it to 84 to shrink the distance.


NEL's Platter

00:02:764 (4) - Move to x:160 moved to x 116
00:09:631 (6) - try to do this slider http://puu.sh/bhdhd/1f05162bc3.jpg or http://puu.sh/bhdvr/4adfae580b.jpg and you could do more of those in the rest of the map xD I prefer my own speciment of slide haha
00:14:330 (7) - Move to x:176 done
00:21:406 (9) - Move to x:312 done
00:30:412 (4) - Move to x:256 I remember why I did that but actually x 256 is better
00:32:531 (2) - ^ done
00:32:694 (3) - Move to x:72 done
00:38:075 (4) - Move to x:504 I feel it's cool the way it is...
00:46:553 (2) - Move to x:107 I changed things. Thank you !
00:50:792 (4) - To be completely horizontal I kept a slight curve still, but it's more horizontal now.
00:53:727 (6) - Move to x:166 reworked the distances
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - all to be completely horizontal I prefer them to have a slight curve
00:59:923 (1,2,3) - Try other thing :s hm... I'm not sure, I like it, but if somebody else points it, I'll change.
01:00:901 (4,5) - ^ ^
01:03:673 (4) - x:55 y:162 I normalized all distances. how careless of me not to have checked that...
01:08:890 (4) - x:400 done. Thank you.
01:12:477 (6) - x:80 a small jump here is cool, so I only moved it to x 68 :3
01:17:042 (3) - x:512 changed some distances. I'm so random it hurts how careless I can be.
01:21:118 (3,4) - To be completely horizontal Slightly more horizontal. I like them the way they are right now.
01:21:933 (5,6) - Try to do this http://puu.sh/bhg6R/7e029a5e50.jpg Works like a charm ! Thank you very much

Excellent diff, charm me owo Good luck to the guys map ^^ Thank you !

1. Add "opening", "Geneon Universal Entertainment" and "Shinya Saito" to the tags
2. Untick "Enable Countdown" because it is not triggering, "Widescreen Support" because you don't have any SB, and also "Letterbox during breaks" because you don't have break time in all of the difficulty.

• 
  Settings:

1. Since this is the easiest difficulty in the mapset, you can use simple beats and jumps
2. Quadruplets (four chained circle) actually works well as a challenging pattern
3. 00:57:314 - 00:59:270 You can use spinner here as an interchange before entering the kiai
4. Various music feedback can be found on this song, so you have several alternatives for placing the beat
5. Keep the spacing and distance safe
   
   
   Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)

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1. 00:19:806 (1) - Slightly increase the distance to the left (If you apply this, then move 00:21:006 (2) - to the right for some flow)
2. 00:26:988 (3) - Move to 00:26:825 -, there is a beat that can be heard here instead of 00:26:988 -
3. 00:28:618 (1,2) - A single circle for each one of them should be fine
4. 00:30:575 (1) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider
5. 00:31:879 (1) - A single 1/1 slider for this one, since there is no beat if a repeated 1/1 is used
6. 00:33:673 - The next beat starts here after 00:33:346 (2) -
7. 00:35:792 (4) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider
8. 00:37:586 (5) - ^
9. 00:49:406 (1) - Move this to the white line, the beat suits better
10. 00:56:173 - Add a circle here, there is a beat here
11. 01:01:716 (1) - Remove this and place a circle at 01:01:879 -, the beat starts there
12. 01:09:542 (3,4) - If you prefer to follow the vocal, replace this two with a single slider
13. 01:13:618 (3) - This slider should end at the red tick (01:13:781 -)
14. 01:14:433 (1) - This slider should end at the white tick (01:14:596 -)
15. 01:14:759 (1) - ^ (01:14:923 -)

1. 00:00:957 - 00:21:895 You should take a look at Kyuare's Platter for the correct beat placement, some of them sounds a bit off
2. 00:26:825 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
3. 00:28:455 - You can add a circle as well
4. 00:29:433 - ^
5. 00:29:923 - Remove the circle, there is no beat here
6. 00:31:064 - Add a circle here since there is a beat
7. 00:32:205 (1,2) - You can remove these two and place a slider at 00:32:042 - until 00:32:368 -
8. 00:32:694 - ^
9. 00:43:781 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
10. 01:20:140 (11) - Move to 01:19:977 - instead
11. 01:21:444 (4) - Move this to 01:21:607 -
12. 01:22:749 - Add a circle here
13. 01:23:075 - ^
14. 01:23:401 - The current timeline is a bit harsh in my opinion (but I like it for some reason). Try this:
    
    SPOILER

    

1. 00:03:848 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make the same as your Platter
   (Also, why did you make a hyperdash at 00:00:957 (1,2) - , it is a calm part ;w;)
2. 00:16:679 (3) - Slider ends at 00:17:583 -, (If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:17:944 -)
3. 00:30:249 (5) - You can shorten the slider to 00:30:412 -, so that the slider tail can emphasize the beat at this part
   (If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:30:575 -)
4. 00:39:216 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
5. 00:44:107 (2) - ^
6. 00:45:249 (5) - Try this timeline? It suits your pattern.
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 00:47:042 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
8. 00:54:950 (3) - Remove the circle, and add a circle at 00:55:113 -, the beat was supposed to be there
9. 00:55:439 (7) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
10. 00:56:743 (4) - Remove the circle, the actual stream starts at 00:56:825 -, which is the next one
11. 01:01:716 (5) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
12. 01:05:792 (5) - Remove the slider, and you have 3 choices here:
    
    SPOILER

    • 
      (1) Make a repeated 1/2 slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
      (2) Extend the slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
      (3) Add a circle here
13. 01:12:232 - You can add a circle here to make the stream more consistent
14. 01:15:412 (1) - If you want to make a repeated 1/1 slider, it actually begins at 01:15:575 - until 01:16:227 -
    (If you apply this, then add a circle at 01:15:412 - and also 01:16:390 -)
15. 01:18:020 (3) - This slider begins at 01:18:102 -, so if you apply this, then add a circle at 01:18:020 -

QHideaki13 wrote:

Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

Sorry for the late. Let's do this.

[General]

1. Add "opening", "Geneon Universal Entertainment" and "Shinya Saito" to the tags
2. Untick "Enable Countdown" because it is not triggering, "Widescreen Support" because you don't have any SB, and also "Letterbox during breaks" because you don't have break time in all of the difficulty.

[NEL's Salad]
Your patterns are fine, but the problem is the beat placement, which is very important in the element of rhythm.
So, I would suggest you to take a look at my take as your guide to improve your difficulty. Feel free to use any of the patterns, as long as you are comfortable with it.

• 
  Settings:

1. Since this is the easiest difficulty in the mapset, you can use simple beats and jumps
2. Quadruplets (four chained circle) actually works well as a challenging pattern
3. 00:57:314 - 00:59:270 You can use spinner here as an interchange before entering the kiai
4. Various music feedback can be found on this song, so you have several alternatives for placing the beat
5. Keep the spacing and distance safe
   
   
   Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)

   osu file format v13
   
   [General]
   AudioFilename: Zoetrope.mp3
   AudioLeadIn: 0
   PreviewTime: 36770
   Countdown: 1
   SampleSet: Normal
   StackLeniency: 0.7
   Mode: 2
   LetterboxInBreaks: 1
   WidescreenStoryboard: 1
   
   [Editor]
   Bookmarks: 62205
   DistanceSpacing: 1.6
   BeatDivisor: 4
   GridSize: 16
   TimelineZoom: 1
   
   [Metadata]
   Title:Zoetrope (TV Size)
   TitleUnicode:Zoetrope (TV Size)
   Artist:yanaginagi
   ArtistUnicode:yanaginagi
   Creator:Kyuare
   Version:Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)
   Source:Amnesia
   Tags:shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
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[Platter]
The kiai lacks of hyperdash jumps (I remember there is only one before the end), also try to avoid continuous hyperdash jumps during non-kiai like at 00:45:575 (5,1,2,3,4,5) -, this is too difficult for Platter level (but suitable for Rain difficulty).
I did a better job of preparing before this pattern for make it softer, I want to keep this pattern, sorry >w<

1. 00:19:806 (1) - Slightly increase the distance to the left (If you apply this, then move 00:21:006 (2) - to the right for some flow) oooh yes :3
2. 00:26:988 (3) - Move to 00:26:825 -, there is a beat that can be heard here instead of 00:26:988 - ok
3. 00:28:618 (1,2) - A single circle for each one of them should be fine I agree
4. 00:30:575 (1) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider Ok *-*
5. 00:31:879 (1) - A single 1/1 slider for this one, since there is no beat if a repeated 1/1 is used k
6. 00:33:673 - The next beat starts here after 00:33:346 (2) - oooh :3
7. 00:35:792 (4) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider ok
8. 00:37:586 (5) - ^ k
9. 00:49:406 (1) - Move this to the white line, the beat suits better Ok
10. 00:56:173 - Add a circle here, there is a beat here I have not noticed o_o
11. 01:01:716 (1) - Remove this and place a circle at 01:01:879 -, the beat starts there Ok
12. 01:09:542 (3,4) - If you prefer to follow the vocal, replace this two with a single slider Fine
13. 01:13:618 (3) - This slider should end at the red tick (01:13:781 -) ok
14. 01:14:433 (1) - This slider should end at the white tick (01:14:596 -) ok
15. 01:14:759 (1) - ^ (01:14:923 -)

Ok ok

[NEL's Platter]
Same comment as Kyuare's Platter. Also, try to avoid double hyperdash like at 01:21:933 (5,6,7) - as it is too hard for Platter level.

1. 00:00:957 - 00:21:895 You should take a look at Kyuare's Platter for the correct beat placement, some of them sounds a bit off
2. 00:26:825 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
3. 00:28:455 - You can add a circle as well
4. 00:29:433 - ^
5. 00:29:923 - Remove the circle, there is no beat here
6. 00:31:064 - Add a circle here since there is a beat
7. 00:32:205 (1,2) - You can remove these two and place a slider at 00:32:042 - until 00:32:368 -
8. 00:32:694 - ^
9. 00:43:781 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
10. 01:20:140 (11) - Move to 01:19:977 - instead
11. 01:21:444 (4) - Move this to 01:21:607 -
12. 01:22:749 - Add a circle here
13. 01:23:075 - ^
14. 01:23:401 - The current timeline is a bit harsh in my opinion (but I like it for some reason). Try this:
    
    SPOILER

    

[Rain]
This can be improved. But at the same time be cautious especially at 01:20:955 (4,5,6) - , as some player might miss at that part. I made sure that this passage is softer, but I want to keep this pattern, sorry >w<

1. 00:03:848 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make the same as your Platter k
   (Also, why did you make a hyperdash at 00:00:957 (1,2) - , it is a calm part ;w;) Ooh >w<
2. 00:16:679 (3) - Slider ends at 00:17:583 -, (If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:17:944 -) k
3. 00:30:249 (5) - You can shorten the slider to 00:30:412 -, so that the slider tail can emphasize the beat at this part k
   (If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:30:575 -) owo
4. 00:39:216 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here ok
5. 00:44:107 (2) - ^ k
6. 00:45:249 (5) - Try this timeline? It suits your pattern. oooh, ok :3
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 00:47:042 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here k
8. 00:54:950 (3) - Remove the circle, and add a circle at 00:55:113 -, the beat was supposed to be there k
9. 00:55:439 (7) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here k
10. 00:56:743 (4) - Remove the circle, the actual stream starts at 00:56:825 -, which is the next one Ok
11. 01:01:716 (5) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here k
12. 01:05:792 (5) - Remove the slider, and you have 3 choices here:
    
    SPOILER

    • 
      (1) Make a repeated 1/2 slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
      (2) Extend the slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
      (3) Add a circle here
    ok owo
    
13. 01:12:232 - You can add a circle here to make the stream more consistent ok *-*
14. 01:15:412 (1) - If you want to make a repeated 1/1 slider, it actually begins at 01:15:575 - until 01:16:227 - k
    (If you apply this, then add a circle at 01:15:412 - and also 01:16:390 -) owo
15. 01:18:020 (3) - This slider begins at 01:18:102 -, so if you apply this, then add a circle at 01:18:020 -

ok :3

[]

Another issues found on this mapset is the SV spread, which need to be fix. All difficulty with 2.0x SV is very painful. Trust me, I have tried this before on my first mapset, and the feedback was the same as I said for now (which is not as I expected). ;_;

Suggestions for the SV spread:
1.4x - 1.7x - 1.7x - 2.0x
1.4x - 1.6x - 1.8x - 2.0x

(NEL's Salad - Platter - NEL'S Platter - Rain)

Remember to frequently check the AIMod after changing the SV. It is still not too late to rearrange the pattern (You can improve it and make it better!).

Last but not least, always check your NCs. Keep the new combo less than 10 if possible (I usually go for 8). Higher combo will stack the fruits on the plate and eventually block the players sight for catching.

Most importantly, I'm not going to override your style or something. Consider each of the suggestions given and think carefully before declining. You have the basic of mapping, which is a good start before moving further. I believe you guys can do your best and make your way to be the best!

That's all from me.
Kindly PM me if you didn't understand any part of my mod or you need to discuss something with me.
Again, I apologize for being late. Take a star from me.
Best of luck~

Kyuare wrote:

QHideaki13 wrote:

Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

Kyuare wrote:

Genocide wrote:

[Rain]
00:07:282 (3) - 296 fixed
00:10:354 - add note here x48 fixed
00:14:691 (5) - ctrl+ g and move to 220 fixed
00:15:414 (1) - move to 392 fixed
00:16:499 (2) - 68 fixed
00:16:679 (3) - 244 it's will be good place fixed

00:29:596 (3) - ctrl+ g and move to 224 OK

[NEL's platter]
00:10:354 - note here x52

[Platter]
00:10:354 - note here x216 fixed

Nice platter

salad is fine for me

good luck for rank111!!!oneoneone

-Gnc

QHideaki13 wrote:

Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

Sorry for the late. Let's do this.

[General]

1. Add "opening", "Geneon Universal Entertainment" and "Shinya Saito" to the tags applied
2. Untick "Enable Countdown" because it is not triggering, "Widescreen Support" because you don't have any SB, and also "Letterbox during breaks" because you don't have break time in all of the difficulty.applied

[NEL's Salad]
Your patterns are fine, but the problem is the beat placement, which is very important in the element of rhythm.
So, I would suggest you to take a look at my take as your guide to improve your difficulty. Feel free to use any of the patterns, as long as you are comfortable with it. I changed several things. In comparision to yours is mine is VERY bad... But I still kept the original spirit I mapped with

• 
  Settings:

1. Since this is the easiest difficulty in the mapset, you can use simple beats and jumps I simplified it
2. Quadruplets (four chained circle) actually works well as a challenging pattern
3. 00:57:314 - 00:59:270 You can use spinner here as an interchange before entering the kiai I prefer keeping the pattern I have... But the idea is good as expected and I may add this in the future if people prefer it
4. Various music feedback can be found on this song, so you have several alternatives for placing the beat
5. Keep the spacing and distance safe
   
   
   Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)

   osu file format v13
   
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   ArtistUnicode:yanaginagi
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   Source:Amnesia
   Tags:shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
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   272,192,81118,6,0,L|192:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   48,192,81607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   256,192,81933,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   416,192,82259,2,0,L|496:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   192,192,82912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   128,192,83075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   352,192,83401,6,0,L|352:112,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   160,192,83890,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   352,192,84216,2,0,L|448:192,4,70,0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   224,192,85194,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   48,192,85520,2,0,L|126:192,3,77.0000023498536,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   288,192,86336,2,0,L|400:192,1,105.000004005432
   160,192,86825,2,0,L|48:192,1,105.000004005432
   256,192,87314,5,0,0:0:0:0:
   448,192,87640,2,0,L|336:192,1,105.000004005432,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   144,192,88129,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   64,192,88292,1,0,0:0:0:0:
   144,192,88455,1,0,0:0:0:0:

[NEL's Platter]
Same comment as Kyuare's Platter. Also, try to avoid double hyperdash like at 01:21:933 (5,6,7) - as it is too hard for Platter level. changed it... too bad I liked it :'( btw, I didn't change too much kiai time mapping, as I believe even though it has less hyperdashes, I put a lot of strain at kiai times, and I believe it's enough to justify the kiai.

1. 00:00:957 - 00:21:895 You should take a look at Kyuare's Platter for the correct beat placement, some of them sounds a bit off ah, yeah. Some were a bit off, reworked them
2. 00:26:825 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard done
3. 00:28:455 - You can add a circle as well done
4. 00:29:433 - ^ I prefer not to here.
5. 00:29:923 - Remove the circle, there is no beat here did it and removed the next circle
6. 00:31:064 - Add a circle here since there is a beat done
7. 00:32:205 (1,2) - You can remove these two and place a slider at 00:32:042 - until 00:32:368 - I kept my patterns, sorry I prefer it this way...
8. 00:32:694 - ^ ^
9. 00:43:781 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard I prefer my pattern, Keep the timeline clean and it appears nice to my hears with those hitsounds
10. 01:20:140 (11) - Move to 01:19:977 - instead done, thanks
11. 01:21:444 (4) - Move this to 01:21:607 - I prefer the way it is, I don't understand why you wanted that ?
12. 01:22:749 - Add a circle here hmm, no, because it's the same spaced circles on the timeline as before
13. 01:23:075 - ^
14. 01:23:401 - The current timeline is a bit harsh in my opinion (but I like it for some reason). Try this: kept my patterns for now
    
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Another issues found on this mapset is the SV spread, which need to be fix. All difficulty with 2.0x SV is very painful. Trust me, I have tried this before on my first mapset, and the feedback was the same as I said for now (which is not as I expected). ;_;

Suggestions for the SV spread:
1.4x - 1.7x - 1.7x - 2.0x
1.4x - 1.6x - 1.8x - 2.0x <We will take that

(NEL's Salad - Platter - NEL'S Platter - Rain)

Remember to frequently check the AIMod after changing the SV. It is still not too late to rearrange the pattern (You can improve it and make it better!).

Last but not least, always check your NCs. Keep the new combo less than 10 if possible (I usually go for 8). Higher combo will stack the fruits on the plate and eventually block the players sight for catching.

Most importantly, I'm not going to override your style or something. Consider each of the suggestions given and think carefully before declining. You have the basic of mapping, which is a good start before moving further. I believe you guys can do your best and make your way to be the best!

That's all from me.
Kindly PM me if you didn't understand any part of my mod or you need to discuss something with me.
Again, I apologize for being late. Take a star from me.
Best of luck~

Genocide wrote:

Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

[NEL's platter]
00:10:354 - note here x52 done Thanks !

Nice platter

salad is fine for me

good luck for rank111!!!oneoneone

-Gnc

ZiRoX wrote:

[General]

Some things:

1. Check tags between diffs, AiMod reports some conflicts
2. There's no Storyboard, so Widescreen Support shouldn't be enabled. Check this on all difs
3. There are countdown conflicts between diffs, check this!

Yes

[ NEL's Salad]

Timeline and Patterns

1. 00:10:354 - There's a note missing here. I'd add it like this:
   
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2. 00:15:776 (6) - I wouldn't hurt to have a bit more distance here, so move it a bit to the right (x:172 seems good)
3. 00:26:988 (2,3) - Increase distance on this part for some more movement. To keep next pattern almost intact, move 00:27:477 (3,4) - together to x:192.
4. 00:32:694 (3,4) - Increase distance on this part for a bit more movement. Putting it to x:228 seems okay, as it doesn't increase the distance to (5) too much.
5. 00:34:814 (2) - Move it to x:404, it reduces the jump a bit to the point it's catchable without dashing, but it requires precision so newer players will still dash.
6. 00:37:096 (2,3,4) - I find these jumps a bit to excessive for a Salad. I would reduce the distance between them, maybe like this:
   
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7. 00:50:466 (3,4) - It's better to map it to the vocals, as it's more intuitive to play because it follows what you've done in previous parts. So, I'd map the timeline like this:
   
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   I also think 00:51:444 (5,6) - should be moved to increase movement. I suggest putting it on x:208. Overall, I would do this:
   
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8. 01:05:466 (1,2) - Add distance between these two, it's the Kiai Time!
9. 01:11:009 (2) - If you stack it with (5) you make these part a bit more interesting

New Combo

1. 00:03:848 (6) - Add NC
2. 00:08:908 (6) - Add NC
3. 00:13:969 (4) - Add NC
4. 00:15:053 (5) - Add NC
5. 00:45:575 (4) - Add NC
6. 00:50:629 (4) - Add NC
7. 00:53:238 (4) - Add NC
8. 01:03:836 (3) - Add NC
9. 01:05:466 (1) - Remove NC
10. 01:06:118 (2) - Add NC
11. 01:09:379 (3) - Add NC
12. 01:11:662 (5) - Add NC
13. 01:14:270 (3) - Add NC
14. 01:24:868 (4) - Add NC
15. 01:27:314 (5) - Add NC

[ Platter]

Song Settings

1. Try AR8.2 to do magic with this stream: 01:11:743 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

Timeline and Patterns

• I had not thought of, thank you

1. 00:29:433 (2,3) - Increase distance a bit, x:192 creates a better movement. Indeed
2. 00:37:423 (4,5) - Same idea, separate them a bit. Setting (5) at x:76 plays fine. Ok
3. 00:42:803 (3,4,5,6) - I would increase distance in this part. How about this? Good idea, I grow a little more distance
   
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4. 00:51:281 (5,6,7) - Jump should be at (5,6) instead of (6,7), because of higher vocal. Yes
5. 01:02:857 (2,3) - Add distance to fit the stronger vocal at 01:03:183 - . To keep the patterns intact, move this all together 01:02:857 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - to the left. Yes, thanks
6. 01:06:118 (1,2,1) - Hyperdashing these two might be a good idea. One way is this: Nice
   
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7. 01:08:727 (1,2) - This part can also have a higher distance Ok
8. 01:16:553 (1,2) - ^ Ok
9. 01:24:542 (4) - You can split it into two circles to make a jump that fits the vocals at 01:24:705 - Yes
10. 01:25:846 (8) - ^

New Combo

1. 00:15:414 (4) - Add NC
2. 00:35:792 (4) - Add NC
3. 00:38:075 (6) - Add NC
4. 00:38:401 (1) - Remove NC
5. 00:39:053 (3) - Add NC
6. 00:40:683 (8) - Add NC
7. 00:41:009 (1) - Remove NC
8. 00:48:020 (4) - Add NC
9. 00:50:629 (3) - Add NC
10. 00:53:401 (5) - Add NC
11. 01:14:433 (6) - Add NC
12. 01:15:575 (9) - Add NC
13. 01:24:868 (5) - Add NC

Ok

[ NEL's Platter]

Timeline and Patterns

1. 00:10:716 (1,2,3) - I would increase distance between these objects to keep the same spacing as 00:10:354 (7,1) -. One option is this:
   
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2. 00:18:306 (3,4) - Increase distance a bit.
3. 00:21:406 (9) - End this on the blue tick.
4. 00:28:618 (7) - Increase the distance here to create a jump, due to the strong beat. Around x:192 is fine.
5. 00:30:575 (3,4) - This distance is too large, move (4) to x:288 to decrease the distance and have a not-so-hard jump to (5).
6. 00:40:846 (7,8) - This jump doesn't fit. If you listen closely, the stronger vocal is on (7)'s tail, so I would split the slider and create a small jump on the new notes. Something like this:
   
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7. 00:49:977 (2) - This feels weird as a 1/1 slider because there's a strong vocal in the middle of it. Change it to a 1/2 repeat slider. This creates an hyperdash, check it if you like it:
   
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8. 00:52:586 (3) - This one doesn't sound right. Make it a 1/2 slider starting on the white tick at 00:52:749 -
9. 00:56:009 (10) - This one should start on the white tick at 00:56:009 - . Note that, because of the SV change, it will break it. I suggest this:
   
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10. 01:03:673 (4,5,6) - Replace them with a 1/2 repeat slider to add some variety (it looks like a 1/2 spam) and to follow vocals better. Like this:
    
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11. 01:11:336 (3,4,5,6) - I'd replace this part with this timeline, it follows vocal better:
    
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12. Same suggestions apply for the second part of the Kiai Time.

New Combo

1. 00:03:848 (7) - Add NC
2. 00:09:631 (6) - Add NC
3. 00:10:716 (1) - Remove NC
4. 00:12:523 (4) - Add NC
5. 00:15:776 (7) - Add NC
6. 00:17:583 (1) - Remove NC
7. 00:18:306 (3) - Add NC
8. 00:28:618 (7) - Add NC
9. 00:29:596 (1) - Remove NC
10. 00:40:357 (5) - Add NC
11. 00:44:270 (7) - Add NC
12. 00:53:401 (5) - Add NC
13. 00:56:009 (6) - Add NC
14. 01:03:673 (4) - Add NC
15. 01:09:053 (5) - Add NC
16. 01:14:270 (4) - Add NC
17. 01:18:183 (6) - Add NC
18. 01:21:933 (6) - Add NC
19. 01:24:705 (5) - Add NC
20. 01:27:314 (5) - Add NC

[ Rain]

Timeline and Patterns

1. 00:15:414 (1,2,3) - I would move these three to the right, (1) because it is too close to the previous object and (2,3) to keep the distance with previous slider. Ok
2. 00:28:455 (6,7,8) - Replace them with a circle at 00:28:618 -. This is to create more variety and because adding 1/1 jumps is easy. Indeed, thanks
3. 00:30:575 (6,7) - This hyperdash doesn't really fit well. I suggest removing it. Yes, I took the opportunity to move the next slider
4. 00:40:194 (5,6) - I don't think that 1/4 hyperdash is really fitting. Make (5) a 1/2 slider. I wanted to keep it there, but you're right
5. 00:43:537 (9) - Remove it, it creates an hyperdash that's extremely hard. If you want to keep the hyperdash, move 00:43:618 (1) - to the left border. Ok
6. 01:26:173 (3,4,1) - Replace (4) with two circles: place the first one closer to (3) than actual (4)'s head. Place the second circle around x:96 to create an hyperdash. Like this: Ooh nice
   
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7. 01:28:455 (3) - Add a finishing hyperdash

Yes

I'm still unsure about some parts, but I'll let them pass for now.

New Combo

1. 00:18:306 (6) - Add NC
2. 00:19:618 (1) - Remove NC
3. 00:19:806 (2) - Add NC
4. 00:29:923 (4) - Add NC
5. 00:32:531 (5) - Add NC
6. 00:33:510 (1) - Remove NC
7. 00:40:194 (5) - Add NC
8. 00:42:966 (6) - Add NC
9. 00:48:183 (5) - Add NC
10. 00:50:629 (4) - Add NC
11. 00:52:423 (1) - Remove NC
12. 00:53:564 (4) - Add NC
13. 01:03:836 (4) - Add NC
14. 01:04:325 (1) - Remove NC
15. 01:04:977 (3) - Add NC
16. 01:06:118 (1) - Remove NC
17. 01:06:444 (2) - Add NC
18. 01:12:314 (7) - Add NC
19. 01:16:879 (5) - Add NC
20. 01:19:488 (6) - Add NC
21. 01:27:314 (5) - Add NC Ok

1. I am not too sure about the timing. Sometimes the vocals do not start on a tick and a bit later/earlier, as for example at 00:16:679. It would be great if you get some timing validation by another BAT/QAT.
2. Combo Colour 1 and 4 are pretty much the same, there's no need to keep both of them, so erase the 4th one in each difficulty.
3. Weird background size. Use a 4:3 or 16:9 ratio. I recommend 1024x768 or 1366x768 since it's the most commonly used wallpaper size.
4. There is some inconsistency in Tags. Use this as reference:
   
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   - [NEL's Platter] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [NEL's Salad] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [Platter] : shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [Rain] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
5. There are some unsnapped green lines in all your diffs. Not sure why you did it like that, but you can snap them all to a tick without any problem. Use this for reference:
   
   SPOILER

   NEL's Salad and NEL's Platter:
   00:21:242 - snap to 00:21:206
   00:29:184 - snap to 00:29:189
   
   Platter and Rain:
   00:21:242 - snap to 00:21:206

1. 00:21:406 (7,1) - For a Salad a 1/4 distance before the spinner appears is very low because a newbie barely has time to react on that. I even recommend to keep a 1/1 distance in a Salad.
2. 00:30:901 (4) - This should be a triplet slider as you did at 00:27:966 (4) - , otherwise it skips the beat at 00:27:966 (4) - .
3. 00:37:586 (3,4) - These claps feel out of place because you didn't use them on similar sections as 00:40:520 (4,5,6) - , too. Please use a consistent hitsounding for these sections.
4. 00:44:923 (2,3) - This feels a little wrong to the rhythm, I would definitely follow the vocals. So use a 1/1 slider that goes 00:44:923 - until 00:45:249 - :
   
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5. 00:54:542 (6) - This slider can be mapped differently, even though you wanted to map on vocals. I think it would be nicer to emphasize the drum beats by using this timeline:
   
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6. 00:59:596 - Add a note. I know you wanted to keep a short break but the Piano appears, so this feels empty right now.
7. 00:59:923 (1,2) - You mapped all 4 drum beats at 01:00:901 (3,4) - but you didn't do it at 00:59:923 (1,2) - . Please keep them consistent. In case you do not know what I mean I prepared some screenshot for you:
   
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8. 01:03:509 (2,3) - This timeline is wrong. If you listen very closely there is no beat at 01:03:673 - . Sure it can be argued that it follows the vocals but during gameplay that's barely noticeable. To improve the feeling for it use the following timeline:
   
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9. 01:17:368 (3) - There is no real beat on the reverse arrow, use a simple 1/1 slider from 01:17:368 - until 01:17:694 - instead.
10. 01:19:162 - I wouldn't put any break here. Please add some notes. Or you can think about adding a spinner that starts at 01:18:183 - already.
11. 01:27:966 (3,4) - This could be a small dash, creates a better ending feeling. Right now it's possible to catch without any dash at all.

1. HS needs improvement here. Often you simply skipped important 1/1 main beats without giving them any clap or other appropriate hitsounds at all. And sometimes it seems you used too many... It's quite pointless to mention all these in my mods but I advice you to check out NEL's difficulties. The hitsounding in her/his difficulties is quite decent and maybe you get some more ideas. If you really have no idea how to do that alone call me back.
2. Use way more NCs, sometimes the Plate gets too full. For example at 01:02:531 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . I normally use NCs every stanza but this is up to you. Anyways, go throughout your whole diff and use more of them.
3. 00:03:848 (1) - This slider doesn't follow the timing, there's nothing really on the 1/4 tick. Instead do the following:
   
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4. 00:10:354 (2) - Erase that note, there clearly isn't any beat. And if there was it's barely audible.
5. 00:16:679 (3) - Well I already mentioned that in 'general'... The vocal appear slightly later, so this slider is off-timed. Instead maybe do something similar as I suggested in NEL's Platter because she/he did a similar mistake.
6. 00:21:406 (3,1) - Quite a short distance between spinner and note, at least 1/2 would be nice.
7. 00:45:575 (5,1) - 1/4 Hypers are pretty much not allowed in Platters. Erase it and keep this Pattern more simple and cleaner. They are sometimes ok on lower BPM (below 130-140 more or less) but BPM 184 is definitely too high already.
8. 00:52:096 - From this point this totally lacks of hitsounds, you used some claps before but here all in a sudden... there's nothing at all ._.
9. 00:51:607 (5,1) - Some dash would be nice, fits the vocals.
10. 00:54:705 (1,2,3) - This really plays awkward. There actually should be a Hyper at 00:53:890 (4,1) - but definitely not at 00:54:705 (1,2) - , it's not fitting because the drum before is much louder than this one.
11. 00:57:232 (5,6) - Pretty much unrankable again. These 1/4 Hypers cannot be allowed in this Platter.
12. 01:13:944 (4,5) - ^
13. Well thing is, this Platter isn't my style at all. The patterns aren't very clean, there's no logic flow I can find in it, pretty much anything looks randomly... It's probably your style, maybe some other BATs will see that differently to me, so definitely try to consult another BAT for some 2nd thought.

1. 00:10:354 (2) - Erase that note, there clearly isn't any beat. And if there was it's barely audible.
2. 00:16:679 (4) - Not sure if that's a timing issue, but the vocals start slightly later if you listen carefully on 25% playback rate. To solve this issue you need to erase 00:16:679 (4) - unfortunately, or find an extra timing section that follows the vocals properly.
3. 00:21:406 (4,1) - For a Platter a 1/4 distance before a spinner is quite short, at least use 1/2.
4. 00:31:064 (6,7) - Somehow this jumps feels a bit harsh, might be because it's 1/1 and they feel ugly in general. Please move (7) to x: 100 more or less.
5. 00:46:390 (1,2,3) - I'd say increase distance between these notes a bit, that plays a bit lame. I thought about this:
   
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6. 00:59:596 - Add a note due to the piano, dunno... Not a fan that you guys skipped these beats... (I already mentioned that in the Salad)
7. 00:59:923 (1) - This is really boring for a Platter, instead how about something like...:
   
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8. 01:00:901 (2,3,4,5,6) - And this might be a little extreme, I would keep patterns like that for a Rain, but not a Platter. Simplify it in a similar way as I already suggested at 00:59:923.
9. 01:07:749 - From here should be a long slider similar as you did at 01:05:140 (8) - to have both parts consistent. Otherwise you follow one time the drums and one time the vocals, which makes this part surprising.
10. 01:23:564 (2,3) - Why is there even a hyper? There is no loud drum or anything. Erase it. Instead there SHOULD BE Hypers HERE to follow the cymbal sounds: 01:24:216 (4,1) - , 01:25:683 (4,1) - , 01:26:988 (4,1) -
11. 01:26:662 - Erase the finish hitsounds, this is not a new stanza or anything. It's in the middle of it. Same for 01:27:966 - .
12. 01:28:455 (4) - Erase that slider and use two single notes to have a Hyper on the second last note to emphasize the last cymbal at 01:28:618 - .

1. 00:01:499 (2) - Move this a bit more to the left. The move is a little too rough.
2. 00:03:848 (1) - The vocal isn't ending on the 1/4 tick, so this is off-timed again. Another time where it seems the timing is wrong. Please get some timing confirm. By now keep a reverse arrow on the 1/2 tick, as I suggested above already.
3. 00:16:499 (2) - Why does this note have Drum Sample? It sounds weird, keep "Auto" as on any other note.
4. 00:16:679 (3) - Same as above, vocals start later. See Platter what i suggested as timeline.
5. 00:30:656 (4) - Move this to more or less x: 280 to create a simple triplet pattern. The inconsistent spacing feels awkward to play.
6. 00:34:162 (2) - Move this slightly to the left, dashes after Hypers can be a pain. x: 280 for 00:34:162 (2) - , x: 328 for 00:34:488 (3).
7. 00:46:716 (4,1) - Hyper could be fitting due to the cymbal, just if you like.
8. 00:57:232 (8,9) - No, just no. Not a Hyper DIRECTLY in front of a spinner, this is a pain to play. And after that Hyper you hardly pass that spinner. Instead do the following:
   
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9. 01:11:662 (2,3) - Remove that Hyper, the vocals are too low for that. Even though this is the Kiai there's no need to exaggerate that much.
10. 01:16:553 (4,5,1) - I just don't like it... Super small Hypers... and then so many in a row, anyway, it's your thing, just wanted to say that I dislike it. lol

Sey wrote:

Hi, mod from my queue. And I am quite late, sorry about that.

[General]

1. I am not too sure about the timing. Sometimes the vocals do not start on a tick and a bit later/earlier, as for example at 00:16:679. It would be great if you get some timing validation by another BAT/QAT. ok, I'll ask other people
2. Combo Colour 1 and 4 are pretty much the same, there's no need to keep both of them, so erase the 4th one in each difficulty.
3. Weird background size. Use a 4:3 or 16:9 ratio. I recommend 1024x768 or 1366x768 since it's the most commonly used wallpaper size. I'll see it with takuneru
4. There is some inconsistency in Tags. Use this as reference:
   
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   - [NEL's Platter] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [NEL's Salad] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [Platter] : shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru i forgot >w<
   - [Rain] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
5. There are some unsnapped green lines in all your diffs. Not sure why you did it like that, but you can snap them all to a tick without any problem. Use this for reference:
   
   SPOILER

   NEL's Salad and NEL's Platter:
   00:21:242 - snap to 00:21:206
   00:29:184 - snap to 00:29:189
   
   Platter and Rain: yes thanks
   00:21:242 - snap to 00:21:206

[NEL's Salad]

1. 00:21:406 (7,1) - For a Salad a 1/4 distance before the spinner appears is very low because a newbie barely has time to react on that. I even recommend to keep a 1/1 distance in a Salad.
2. 00:30:901 (4) - This should be a triplet slider as you did at 00:27:966 (4) - , otherwise it skips the beat at 00:27:966 (4) - .
3. 00:37:586 (3,4) - These claps feel out of place because you didn't use them on similar sections as 00:40:520 (4,5,6) - , too. Please use a consistent hitsounding for these sections.
4. 00:44:923 (2,3) - This feels a little wrong to the rhythm, I would definitely follow the vocals. So use a 1/1 slider that goes 00:44:923 - until 00:45:249 - :
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:54:542 (6) - This slider can be mapped differently, even though you wanted to map on vocals. I think it would be nicer to emphasize the drum beats by using this timeline:
   
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6. 00:59:596 - Add a note. I know you wanted to keep a short break but the Piano appears, so this feels empty right now.
7. 00:59:923 (1,2) - You mapped all 4 drum beats at 01:00:901 (3,4) - but you didn't do it at 00:59:923 (1,2) - . Please keep them consistent. In case you do not know what I mean I prepared some screenshot for you:
   
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8. 01:03:509 (2,3) - This timeline is wrong. If you listen very closely there is no beat at 01:03:673 - . Sure it can be argued that it follows the vocals but during gameplay that's barely noticeable. To improve the feeling for it use the following timeline:
   
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9. 01:17:368 (3) - There is no real beat on the reverse arrow, use a simple 1/1 slider from 01:17:368 - until 01:17:694 - instead.
10. 01:19:162 - I wouldn't put any break here. Please add some notes. Or you can think about adding a spinner that starts at 01:18:183 - already.
11. 01:27:966 (3,4) - This could be a small dash, creates a better ending feeling. Right now it's possible to catch without any dash at all.

[Platter]

1. HS needs improvement here. Often you simply skipped important 1/1 main beats without giving them any clap or other appropriate hitsounds at all. And sometimes it seems you used too many... It's quite pointless to mention all these in my mods but I advice you to check out NEL's difficulties. The hitsounding in her/his difficulties is quite decent and maybe you get some more ideas. If you really have no idea how to do that alone call me back.
   OK, I'll try to do as those of the rain, I hope you like it
2. Use way more NCs, sometimes the Plate gets too full. For example at 01:02:531 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - . I normally use NCs every stanza but this is up to you. Anyways, go throughout your whole diff and use more of them. oh, nice
3. 00:03:848 (1) - This slider doesn't follow the timing, there's nothing really on the 1/4 tick. Instead do the following:
   
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   ok
4. 00:10:354 (2) - Erase that note, there clearly isn't any beat. And if there was it's barely audible. yes
5. 00:16:679 (3) - Well I already mentioned that in 'general'... The vocal appear slightly later, so this slider is off-timed. Instead maybe do something similar as I suggested in NEL's Platter because she/he did a similar mistake.
6. 00:21:406 (3,1) - Quite a short distance between spinner and note, at least 1/2 would be nice. i see
7. 00:45:575 (5,1) - 1/4 Hypers are pretty much not allowed in Platters. Erase it and keep this Pattern more simple and cleaner. They are sometimes ok on lower BPM (below 130-140 more or less) but BPM 184 is definitely too high already. thank you, I will don't again this error
8. 00:52:096 - From this point this totally lacks of hitsounds, you used some claps before but here all in a sudden... there's nothing at all ._. yes, I will remake all HS >w<
9. 00:51:607 (5,1) - Some dash would be nice, fits the vocals. nice
10. 00:54:705 (1,2,3) - This really plays awkward. There actually should be a Hyper at 00:53:890 (4,1) - but definitely not at 00:54:705 (1,2) - , it's not fitting because the drum before is much louder than this one. i agree
11. 00:57:232 (5,6) - Pretty much unrankable again. These 1/4 Hypers cannot be allowed in this Platter. ok
12. 01:13:944 (4,5) - ^
13. Well thing is, this Platter isn't my style at all. The patterns aren't very clean, there's no logic flow I can find in it, pretty much anything looks randomly... It's probably your style, maybe some other BATs will see that differently to me, so definitely try to consult another BAT for some 2nd thought.

sorry for mapping a unpleasant platter to you ;w;

[NEL's Platter]

1. 00:10:354 (2) - Erase that note, there clearly isn't any beat. And if there was it's barely audible.
2. 00:16:679 (4) - Not sure if that's a timing issue, but the vocals start slightly later if you listen carefully on 25% playback rate. To solve this issue you need to erase 00:16:679 (4) - unfortunately, or find an extra timing section that follows the vocals properly.
3. 00:21:406 (4,1) - For a Platter a 1/4 distance before a spinner is quite short, at least use 1/2.
4. 00:31:064 (6,7) - Somehow this jumps feels a bit harsh, might be because it's 1/1 and they feel ugly in general. Please move (7) to x: 100 more or less.
5. 00:46:390 (1,2,3) - I'd say increase distance between these notes a bit, that plays a bit lame. I thought about this:
   
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6. 00:59:596 - Add a note due to the piano, dunno... Not a fan that you guys skipped these beats... (I already mentioned that in the Salad)
7. 00:59:923 (1) - This is really boring for a Platter, instead how about something like...:
   
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8. 01:00:901 (2,3,4,5,6) - And this might be a little extreme, I would keep patterns like that for a Rain, but not a Platter. Simplify it in a similar way as I already suggested at 00:59:923.
9. 01:07:749 - From here should be a long slider similar as you did at 01:05:140 (8) - to have both parts consistent. Otherwise you follow one time the drums and one time the vocals, which makes this part surprising.
10. 01:23:564 (2,3) - Why is there even a hyper? There is no loud drum or anything. Erase it. Instead there SHOULD BE Hypers HERE to follow the cymbal sounds: 01:24:216 (4,1) - , 01:25:683 (4,1) - , 01:26:988 (4,1) -
11. 01:26:662 - Erase the finish hitsounds, this is not a new stanza or anything. It's in the middle of it. Same for 01:27:966 - .
12. 01:28:455 (4) - Erase that slider and use two single notes to have a Hyper on the second last note to emphasize the last cymbal at 01:28:618 - .

[Rain]

1. 00:01:499 (2) - Move this a bit more to the left. The move is a little too rough. Ok
2. 00:03:848 (1) - The vocal isn't ending on the 1/4 tick, so this is off-timed again. Another time where it seems the timing is wrong. Please get some timing confirm. By now keep a reverse arrow on the 1/2 tick, as I suggested above already. yes
3. 00:16:499 (2) - Why does this note have Drum Sample? It sounds weird, keep "Auto" as on any other note. I forgot to remove this one o_o
4. 00:16:679 (3) - Same as above, vocals start later. See Platter what i suggested as timeline. yes
5. 00:30:656 (4) - Move this to more or less x: 280 to create a simple triplet pattern. The inconsistent spacing feels awkward to play. ok
6. 00:34:162 (2) - Move this slightly to the left, dashes after Hypers can be a pain. x: 280 for 00:34:162 (2) - , x: 328 for 00:34:488 (3). ok !
7. 00:46:716 (4,1) - Hyper could be fitting due to the cymbal, just if you like. I prefer to increase the distance without creating H dash
8. 00:57:232 (8,9) - No, just no. Not a Hyper DIRECTLY in front of a spinner, this is a pain to play. And after that Hyper you hardly pass that spinner. Instead do the following: I will pay more attention to spinners now, ok
   
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9. 01:11:662 (2,3) - Remove that Hyper, the vocals are too low for that. Even though this is the Kiai there's no need to exaggerate that much. ok
10. 01:16:553 (4,5,1) - I just don't like it... Super small Hypers... and then so many in a row, anyway, it's your thing, just wanted to say that I dislike it. lol

haha, I change the pattern, it is true that it makes a little "overdose" for me ^^"

Not gonna touch too much on Rain, but I guess it needs a lot of improvement anyway. But still the best diff in this mapset I guess... so I don't want to destroy it too much.
All in all this whole mapset needs a lot of improvement and many more modders. But I see some good ideas already, so I am sure it will become better if you are willed to find more people to check it.
a very good mod for me, it allows me to see otherwise my Beatmap.. THANK YOU VERY MUCH !
PS: I will update when takuneru will finish.
Good luck!

Sey wrote:

Hi, mod from my queue. And I am quite late, sorry about that.

[General]

1. I am not too sure about the timing. Sometimes the vocals do not start on a tick and a bit later/earlier, as for example at 00:16:679. It would be great if you get some timing validation by another BAT/QAT. > Talked with Kyu on that matter, we'll ask feedback from other people
2. Combo Colour 1 and 4 are pretty much the same, there's no need to keep both of them, so erase the 4th one in each difficulty. done
3. Weird background size. Use a 4:3 or 16:9 ratio. I recommend 1024x768 or 1366x768 since it's the most commonly used wallpaper size. ah, you're right. Didn't check with Kyu on that, my bad... (BG's been resized by me, will send the changes to Kyu)
4. There is some inconsistency in Tags. Use this as reference:
   
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   - [NEL's Platter] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [NEL's Salad] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [Platter] : shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
   - [Rain] : opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
5. There are some unsnapped green lines in all your diffs. Not sure why you did it like that, but you can snap them all to a tick without any problem. Use this for reference:
   
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   NEL's Salad and NEL's Platter:
   00:21:242 - snap to 00:21:206
   00:29:184 - snap to 00:29:189
   oh my, didn't see those. Thank you !
   
   Platter and Rain:
   00:21:242 - snap to 00:21:206

[NEL's Salad]

1. 00:21:406 (7,1) - For a Salad a 1/4 distance before the spinner appears is very low because a newbie barely has time to react on that. I even recommend to keep a 1/1 distance in a Salad. Removed the slider, now a circle only that leaves a 1/1 distance.
2. 00:30:901 (4) - This should be a triplet slider as you did at 00:27:966 (4) - , otherwise it skips the beat at 00:27:966 (4) - . did a slider repeat as you advised. Changed the distances so it still makes sense.
3. 00:37:586 (3,4) - These claps feel out of place because you didn't use them on similar sections as 00:40:520 (4,5,6) - , too. Please use a consistent hitsounding for these sections. Wanted feedback on these... They DO feel out of place then. removed and used another hitsound technique.
4. 00:44:923 (2,3) - This feels a little wrong to the rhythm, I would definitely follow the vocals. So use a 1/1 slider that goes 00:44:923 - until 00:45:249 - :
   
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   Yeah, actually the slider sounds kind of weird... did a long slider as suggested, removed the note.
5. 00:54:542 (6) - This slider can be mapped differently, even though you wanted to map on vocals. I think it would be nicer to emphasize the drum beats by using this timeline: For this... I am aware of that, but I prefer this way, because it's easier and intuitive imo.
   
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6. 00:59:596 - Add a note. I know you wanted to keep a short break but the Piano appears, so this feels empty right now. it does a bit, you're right, but I believe for the salad it is fine for a short break to leave it empty. Will see how others feel about it.
7. 00:59:923 (1,2) - You mapped all 4 drum beats at 01:00:901 (3,4) - but you didn't do it at 00:59:923 (1,2) - . Please keep them consistent. In case you do not know what I mean I prepared some screenshot for you:
   
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   don't worry, I know . did simple notes at first mapped on all 4 drums, then leaved the two sliders as is.
8. 01:03:509 (2,3) - This timeline is wrong. If you listen very closely there is no beat at 01:03:673 - . Sure it can be argued that it follows the vocals but during gameplay that's barely noticeable. To improve the feeling for it use the following timeline:
   
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   Did as the timeline you provided.
9. 01:17:368 (3) - There is no real beat on the reverse arrow, use a simple 1/1 slider from 01:17:368 - until 01:17:694 - instead. extended it, thanks, goes very well !
10. 01:19:162 - I wouldn't put any break here. Please add some notes. Or you can think about adding a spinner that starts at 01:18:183 - already.
    Added some drum slides.
11. 01:27:966 (3,4) - This could be a small dash, creates a better ending feeling. Right now it's possible to catch without any dash at all.
    enhanced a little bit the movement required. I don't want it THAT hard, as it's reverse. But difficult to catch without dashing (a salad-player will not normally be able to move exactly at the right time anyway)

[NEL's Platter]

1. 00:10:354 (2) - Erase that note, there clearly isn't any beat. And if there was it's barely audible. Not to contradict you but, I still hear a vocal there (pretty clearly, even)... But maybe that would be better not to map it ? Will leave as is for now.
2. 00:16:679 (4) - Not sure if that's a timing issue, but the vocals start slightly later if you listen carefully on 25% playback rate. To solve this issue you need to erase 00:16:679 (4) - unfortunately, or find an extra timing section that follows the vocals properly.
   You're right on that, will talk further about it with Kyu and see what we'll do about those kind of problems. (I did notice that while mapping...)
3. 00:21:406 (4,1) - For a Platter a 1/4 distance before a spinner is quite short, at least use 1/2. Moved the spinner
4. 00:31:064 (6,7) - Somehow this jumps feels a bit harsh, might be because it's 1/1 and they feel ugly in general. Please move (7) to x: 100 more or less.
   Was on purpose, but you're right it's just awfully bad. is now way easier and feel better actually.
5. 00:46:390 (1,2,3) - I'd say increase distance between these notes a bit, that plays a bit lame. I thought about this:
   
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   done !
6. 00:59:596 - Add a note due to the piano, dunno... Not a fan that you guys skipped these beats... (I already mentioned that in the Salad) done something better. But may be a bit extreme... will gather feedback.
7. 00:59:923 (1) - This is really boring for a Platter, instead how about something like...:
   
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   Done
8. 01:00:901 (2,3,4,5,6) - And this might be a little extreme, I would keep patterns like that for a Rain, but not a Platter. Simplify it in a similar way as I already suggested at 00:59:923.
   did some remapping there
9. 01:07:749 - From here should be a long slider similar as you did at 01:05:140 (8) - to have both parts consistent. Otherwise you follow one time the drums and one time the vocals, which makes this part surprising.
   Revamped the part.
10. 01:23:564 (2,3) - Why is there even a hyper? There is no loud drum or anything. Erase it. Instead there SHOULD BE Hypers HERE to follow the cymbal sounds: 01:24:216 (4,1) - , 01:25:683 (4,1) - , 01:26:988 (4,1) -
    changed.
11. 01:26:662 - Erase the finish hitsounds, this is not a new stanza or anything. It's in the middle of it. Same for 01:27:966 - .
    the effect isn't exactly what Iwanted but I will follow your idea, as it still makes it more consistent.
12. 01:28:455 (4) - Erase that slider and use two single notes to have a Hyper on the second last note to emphasize the last cymbal at 01:28:618 - .

done ~

Not gonna touch too much on Rain, but I guess it needs a lot of improvement anyway. But still the best diff in this mapset I guess... so I don't want to destroy it too much.
All in all this whole mapset needs a lot of improvement and many more modders. But I see some good ideas already, so I am sure it will become better if you are willed to find more people to check it.
We will find more people and make it better. Thank you very much for your mod, it was very helpful.

Good luck!