yanaginagi - Zoetrope (TV Size) [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Kyuare

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-07-23T14:13:35+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mardi 13 janvier 2015 at 18:15:45

Artist: yanaginagi
Title: Zoetrope (TV Size)
Source: Amnesia
Tags: opening Geneon Universal Entertainment Shinya Saito shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
BPM: 79
Filesize: 3187kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:

NEL's Platter (3,1 stars, 200 notes)
NEL's Salad (1,96 stars, 174 notes)
Platter (3,3 stars, 262 notes)
Rain (4,1 stars, 278 notes)

Download: yanaginagi - Zoetrope (TV Size)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Please, please, re download if you download the map before 12/21/2014, change background
Spread:

NEL's salad by Takuneru

Platter by myself

NEL's platter by Takuneru

Rain by myself
Other CtB maps of mine :
Kitamura Eri - Birth
Jeff Williams - Red Like Roses

Thanks to these people !

Takuneru for modding, GD, stars and a lot of help !
LordRaika for star
Manuxz Sixx for modding
QHideaki13 for modding, star and help !
Genocide for modding and star
ZiRoX for modding
Sey for modding
pishifat for timing check

Last edited by Kyuare 2015-01-13T17:16:23+00:00, edited 47 times in total.

LordRaika

Elite Mapper

1,438 posts

Joined September 2013

LordRaika 2014-08-02T14:30:26+00:00

^^b
GL on Ranked

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-08-10T13:48:19+00:00

lordraika wrote:
^^b
GL on Ranked

Thanks =w=

Takuneru

97 posts

Joined November 2011

Takuneru 2014-08-13T21:32:47+00:00

Sup Kyu !
Let's get to modding !
-warning french-English ahead-
[General]
Met un preview point. (en haut, timing)
Pour le reste, le mapset sera assez équilibré si tu appliques mon mod (platter à 5.65 stars, soit quasi au milieu entre la salad et ma platter)
Ta rain peut sans doute être plus dure, sans abuser d'h-dash, jsuis sur qu'on peut en enlever certains.

[Platter]
Je vais pas modder ma platter ce serait débile, donc je vais modder la tienne huhu
Comme je t'ai dit, une plus simple serait cool, et c'est pas mal, c'est le cas '^'
Mais il y a des passages trop durs/space ou juste à modifier pour être mieux. En général tu as trop de h dash en 1/4. (ou simplement trop de 1/4)
Par contre sympa tes streams. ça change de mon style qui en utilise peu =w=.
so
HP 7. wowowowowowowo
met 5 ou 6 plutôt je pense, ta Rain fait déjà 6 !
00:18:868 (3,4,1) - je les ai placés différemment perso, le spacing me paraît trop brutal. J'ai aussi changé une note : http://puu.sh/aQU73/39bd87956d.jpg
00:30:575 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - changé le spacing de tout ces objets pour éviter des h dashes, il me paraissent soudains encore une fois : http://puu.sh/aQUwk/0350c353f0.jpg , http://puu.sh/aQUyx/5a813f259d.jpg
00:33:510 (3,1) - le h dash ici est pas gentil et pas joli ><
j'ai fait ça : http://puu.sh/aQUKe/dd891bf8aa.jpg l'idée est de rendre le petit slider plus simple d'accès.
00:34:977 (2) - enlève le whistle à la fin
00:35:303 (3) - place-le à x 212 for equal spacing
00:36:281 (5,6) - 5 à x 160 et 6 a x 420, plus sympa je pense et met un finish à 6
00:36:770 (1,2,3) - this way : http://puu.sh/aQVbC/2d560430e6.jpg
00:38:075 (6,1,2,3,4) - this way :http://puu.sh/aQVuD/23f975df44.jpg
00:39:868 (5,6,7,8) - again, like this : http://puu.sh/aQVB1/7f725d8471.jpg
ces changements sont faits pour que le flow soit meilleur (meilleur continuitée) et pour diminuer des spacings bizarres
00:43:944 (6) - clap
00:44:270 (1,2,3) - patterns trop méchantes ><. j'ai fait ça : http://puu.sh/aQVRd/3448163dba.jpg. un h-dash d'un seul coup en 1/4 c'est mal en platter, quand c'est fait comme ça ^^'
00:45:249 (4) - x 412
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - je les ais mis comme ça : http://puu.sh/aQW0E/2b5135280c.jpg car le 1 est encore une fois pas sympa en 1/4, soit plus gentil.
00:47:205 (1,2) - met les comme ça :http://puu.sh/aRdn9/facc86939e.jpg
00:48:509 (5,6,7) - met les comme ça (pour éviter un h-dash pas utile) : http://puu.sh/aRdpD/c5c820a3ea.jpg
00:49:488 (8) - Un cercle ici plutôt qu'un slide, avec un finish : je l'ai placé à x 168
00:49:814 (1,2,3,4) - j'ai modifié le spacing de ceux-là comme ça : (dashs pas utiles)
00:51:281 (5,6,7) - modifié en accordance avec ma modif du dessus, le dash est un peu moins long et les cercles ne sont plus statiques : http://puu.sh/aRdA6/e78489b5e8.jpg
00:52:749 (3) - j'ai changé un peu sa courbe comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdEe/9ee0f3f41b.jpg
00:53:238 (4,5) - 4 à 292 x et 5 à 512x
00:53:564 (6) - à 328x et j'ai raccourci le slider de sorte qu'il commence à ici : 00:53:890 (1) - (sinon le rythme est pas bon owo). j'ai laissé vide le tick blanc à 00:53:727-, je te conseille de le faire aussi
et j'ai placé le slider à x 208, il faut donc replacer les circles après
Beaucoup trop de notes après ! garde ce genre de note density pour des rain.
00:57:314 (6) - met une note à la place, et met un finish dessus
00:56:988 (2,3,4,5,6) - je l'ai changé comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdIm/12951c4b02.jpg à toi de voir
00:57:640 (7) - NC
00:57:966 (9) - enlève NC
la zone d'après, je l'ai modifiée pour moins de notes et un rythme plus facile : http://puu.sh/aRdSO/66f4af1af5.jpg
00:59:923 (1,2,3,4) - plutôt comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdVf/d82aeb7d68.jpg
01:00:901 (5,6,7) - ^:http://puu.sh/aRdWg/288f63b1f0.jpg
01:01:961 (2,3,4) - maladroit à mon sens. le jump me paraît wowowow pour une platter, donc je te conseille de placer le 2 à x 368 le 3 à x308 et le 4 à x252.
01:03:673 (4) - modifie le slider pour qu'il atterrisse sur le red tick, et enlève le circle
01:04:651 (2) - change les deux cercles par un slider en diagonale
01:05:792 (6) - x 240
01:05:955 (7) - enlève-le
01:06:933 (1,2,3,1,2) - je les ais modifiés comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRe5U/daafc8f661.jpg
01:08:075 (2,3,1) - ça aussi : http://puu.sh/aRebw/333ff2052f.jpg
01:09:542 (3,4,5,6) - changé les spacings : http://puu.sh/aRef0/254b1577b2.jpg
01:13:129 (1) - NC
01:13:292 (1) - remove NC
01:13:944 (4,5) - Jump trop tight ! met le 4 a x 248 et en le curvant un peu et 5 a x 380 avec une jolie courbe aussi : http://puu.sh/aRehP/caad4e09b9.jpg
01:15:086 (2) - allonge le slider et enlève le cercle après. oublie pas le whistle sur le tick rouge à la fin

01:20:955- enlève le cercle
01:21:933 (5) - x 168 pour enlever le h-dash est faire un jump sympa. Sinon rapproche-le un tout petit peu pour garder le h-dash mais amoindrir la distance
si tu prends ma solution alors 01:22:423 (6) - à x 248
01:26:499 (4) - à X 84
01:27:151 (2) - x 228
01:27:314 (3,4,5) - trop loin ><. bouge-les tous ensemble en les selectionnant et met 3 à 364 pour que tout soit bien aligné.
Okay pour la platter. la fin a peut-être un peu trop de whistle...

Ah, par contre je m'excuse mais pour modder ta rain, avec l'auto c'est beaucoup plus compliqué, il faudrait que je teste vraiment... Donc quand je serais re chez moi ^^'
So yeah pour l'instant que la platter, mais je reviendrait pour modder la rain ! je te donnerais des idées par IRC en attendant

. Je pense que niveau hitsounds tu peut faire plus sur la Rain.

Je te shoot deux stars pour mes deux difficultées, et une autre quand t'auras appliqué mon mod

let's Rank this. :3
PS : La plupart du mod a été fait offline haha

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-08-14T11:37:54+00:00

Cool, I was waiting for a CtB mapset from this song.

Poke me when you get this to Pending.

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-08-14T14:54:01+00:00

QHideaki13 wrote:
Cool, I was waiting for a CtB mapset from this song.

Poke me when you get this to Pending.

Ok !

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-08-15T09:32:52+00:00

Takuneru wrote:
Sup Kyu !
Let's get to modding !
-warning french-English ahead-
[General]
Met un preview point. (en haut, timing)
Pour le reste, le mapset sera assez équilibré si tu appliques mon mod (platter à 5.65 stars, soit quasi au milieu entre la salad et ma platter)
Ta rain peut sans doute être plus dure, sans abuser d'h-dash, jsuis sur qu'on peut en enlever certains.

[Platter]
Je vais pas modder ma platter ce serait débile, donc je vais modder la tienne huhu
Comme je t'ai dit, une plus simple serait cool, et c'est pas mal, c'est le cas '^'
Mais il y a des passages trop durs/space ou juste à modifier pour être mieux. En général tu as trop de h dash en 1/4. (ou simplement trop de 1/4)
Par contre sympa tes streams. ça change de mon style qui en utilise peu =w=.
so
HP 7. wowowowowowowo
met 5 ou 6 plutôt je pense, ta Rain fait déjà 6 !
00:18:868 (3,4,1) - je les ai placés différemment perso, le spacing me paraît trop brutal. J'ai aussi changé une note : http://puu.sh/aQU73/39bd87956d.jpg
00:30:575 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - changé le spacing de tout ces objets pour éviter des h dashes, il me paraissent soudains encore une fois : http://puu.sh/aQUwk/0350c353f0.jpg , http://puu.sh/aQUyx/5a813f259d.jpg
00:33:510 (3,1) - le h dash ici est pas gentil et pas joli ><
j'ai fait ça : http://puu.sh/aQUKe/dd891bf8aa.jpg l'idée est de rendre le petit slider plus simple d'accès.
00:34:977 (2) - enlève le whistle à la fin
00:35:303 (3) - place-le à x 212 for equal spacing
00:36:281 (5,6) - 5 à x 160 et 6 a x 420, plus sympa je pense et met un finish à 6
00:36:770 (1,2,3) - this way : http://puu.sh/aQVbC/2d560430e6.jpg
00:38:075 (6,1,2,3,4) - this way :http://puu.sh/aQVuD/23f975df44.jpg
00:39:868 (5,6,7,8) - again, like this : http://puu.sh/aQVB1/7f725d8471.jpg
ces changements sont faits pour que le flow soit meilleur (meilleur continuitée) et pour diminuer des spacings bizarres
00:43:944 (6) - clap
00:44:270 (1,2,3) - patterns trop méchantes ><. j'ai fait ça : http://puu.sh/aQVRd/3448163dba.jpg. un h-dash d'un seul coup en 1/4 c'est mal en platter, quand c'est fait comme ça ^^'
00:45:249 (4) - x 412
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - je les ais mis comme ça : http://puu.sh/aQW0E/2b5135280c.jpg car le 1 est encore une fois pas sympa en 1/4, soit plus gentil.
00:47:205 (1,2) - met les comme ça :http://puu.sh/aRdn9/facc86939e.jpg
00:48:509 (5,6,7) - met les comme ça (pour éviter un h-dash pas utile) : http://puu.sh/aRdpD/c5c820a3ea.jpg
00:49:488 (8) - Un cercle ici plutôt qu'un slide, avec un finish : je l'ai placé à x 168
00:49:814 (1,2,3,4) - j'ai modifié le spacing de ceux-là comme ça : (dashs pas utiles)
00:51:281 (5,6,7) - modifié en accordance avec ma modif du dessus, le dash est un peu moins long et les cercles ne sont plus statiques : http://puu.sh/aRdA6/e78489b5e8.jpg
00:52:749 (3) - j'ai changé un peu sa courbe comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdEe/9ee0f3f41b.jpg
00:53:238 (4,5) - 4 à 292 x et 5 à 512x
00:53:564 (6) - à 328x et j'ai raccourci le slider de sorte qu'il commence à ici : 00:53:890 (1) - (sinon le rythme est pas bon owo). j'ai laissé vide le tick blanc à 00:53:727-, je te conseille de le faire aussi
et j'ai placé le slider à x 208, il faut donc replacer les circles après
Beaucoup trop de notes après ! garde ce genre de note density pour des rain.
00:57:314 (6) - met une note à la place, et met un finish dessus
00:56:988 (2,3,4,5,6) - je l'ai changé comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdIm/12951c4b02.jpg à toi de voir
00:57:640 (7) - NC
00:57:966 (9) - enlève NC
la zone d'après, je l'ai modifiée pour moins de notes et un rythme plus facile : http://puu.sh/aRdSO/66f4af1af5.jpg
00:59:923 (1,2,3,4) - plutôt comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRdVf/d82aeb7d68.jpg
01:00:901 (5,6,7) - ^:http://puu.sh/aRdWg/288f63b1f0.jpg
01:01:961 (2,3,4) - maladroit à mon sens. le jump me paraît wowowow pour une platter, donc je te conseille de placer le 2 à x 368 le 3 à x308 et le 4 à x252.
01:03:673 (4) - modifie le slider pour qu'il atterrisse sur le red tick, et enlève le circle
01:04:651 (2) - change les deux cercles par un slider en diagonale
01:05:792 (6) - x 240
01:05:955 (7) - enlève-le
01:06:933 (1,2,3,1,2) - je les ais modifiés comme ça : http://puu.sh/aRe5U/daafc8f661.jpg
01:08:075 (2,3,1) - ça aussi : http://puu.sh/aRebw/333ff2052f.jpg
01:09:542 (3,4,5,6) - changé les spacings : http://puu.sh/aRef0/254b1577b2.jpg
01:13:129 (1) - NC
01:13:292 (1) - remove NC
01:13:944 (4,5) - Jump trop tight ! met le 4 a x 248 et en le curvant un peu et 5 a x 380 avec une jolie courbe aussi : http://puu.sh/aRehP/caad4e09b9.jpg
01:15:086 (2) - allonge le slider et enlève le cercle après. oublie pas le whistle sur le tick rouge à la fin
01:20:955- enlève le cercle
01:21:933 (5) - x 168 pour enlever le h-dash est faire un jump sympa. Sinon rapproche-le un tout petit peu pour garder le h-dash mais amoindrir la distance
si tu prends ma solution alors 01:22:423 (6) - à x 248
01:26:499 (4) - à X 84
01:27:151 (2) - x 228
01:27:314 (3,4,5) - trop loin ><. bouge-les tous ensemble en les selectionnant et met 3 à 364 pour que tout soit bien aligné.
Okay pour la platter. la fin a peut-être un peu trop de whistle...

Ah, par contre je m'excuse mais pour modder ta rain, avec l'auto c'est beaucoup plus compliqué, il faudrait que je teste vraiment... Donc quand je serais re chez moi ^^'
So yeah pour l'instant que la platter, mais je reviendrait pour modder la rain ! je te donnerais des idées par IRC en attendant . Je pense que niveau hitsounds tu peut faire plus sur la Rain.

Je te shoot deux stars pour mes deux difficultées, et une autre quand t'auras appliqué mon mod
let's Rank this. :3
PS : La plupart du mod a été fait offline haha

J'ai tout appliqué, ça a donne un super flow maggle !
Thank you very much !
Aussi pour la rain j'attend avec impatience *q*

Takuneru

97 posts

Joined November 2011

Takuneru 2014-08-30T16:18:31+00:00

It's time~ It's time to mod this ~ (oui, j'ai vraiment fredonné ça en ouvrant la map, pls don't judge me)
Anyway
Il est temps de passer au mod de ta rain, et de ton apocalypse ^^. Je peux modder la rain sans problème, pour l'apocalypse ça sera sûrement un peu plus restreint (comme tu le sais je viens de revenir, nooby skill more nooby =w=)

So without further ado...

[General]

[Rain]
You really improved it, though some parts are wowowow. Donc jev ais te dire les parts qui me paraissent changeables ou qui ne flow pas exactement bien, ou encore certaines parties qui peuvent être même mieux !

00:01:499 (2) - Crée un H-dash ça fait cool

. ça met un peu de diff sans trop en donner. j'ai placé le 2 à x 448 perso.
00:15:414 (1) - Enlève le whistle sur le repeat
00:26:662 (4) - t'as mis un 3eme point pas utile, enlève le au clic droit (en mettant ton curseur sur le point) pour qu'il soit plus "normal" : http://puu.sh/be6JP/a47034e26b.jpg
00:29:923 (4) - Plus loin que les autres, il part trop vers la gauche. j'ai mis à x 40 perso
00:33:183 (7,8) - statique alors que y a du rythme en rain c'est space ^^'. j'ai mis 7 a x 128 et 8 a x 96
00:39:216 (2) - x 136 est mieux, car ça break le flow du reste si trop loin.
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,1) - ça ne va pas :/. C'est pas rain ça c'est deluge 2.0 xD. si tu veut garder la même pattern je te conseille ça : http://puu.sh/be8dG/1241154208.jpg. c à dire 3 a x 144, 4 a x 376, et 1 a x 144 aussi. Malgré tout je trouve ça pas hyper intuitif, je pense que tu peut faire autre chose, si tu planche je te dirais quoi ^^.
si tu fait ces changements, il faut changer la suite, car vu les h-dash d'avant, la suite est trop méchante !
00:47:042 (2) - x 248
00:47:205 (3) - x 316
00:47:531 (4) - x 204
tout ça aide à ce que la pattern d'avant ne sois pas trop troublante pour le reste.
00:48:183 (6) - J'aurais plutot mis ce slider comme ça :p : http://puu.sh/be9bk/60e42d15a3.jpg
00:52:586 (2) - en utilisant ma technique sure-kill (lol), je le place à x 180, c'est niquel perso.
00:54:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - J'aime beaucoup. J'ai pensé à un peu mieux, lookie : http://puu.sh/be9uN/3f31db9635.jpg
00:55:194 (5) - a x 416 pour créer un h-dash vers le triplet. bouge tout le triplet et place ainsi 6 a x 196
j'ai aussi bougé le reste pour que ça reste cohérent : 00:55:683 (9) - et 00:56:009 (1) - x 256 00:56:173 (2) - x 320
00:57:314 (8) - x 352 pour le mouvement.
00:57:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Je trouve ça brouillon vraiment... remplace soit par des sliders, soit regarde bien les distances et crée peut-être quelques h-dash, ou alors soit consistant dans tes jumps, là pas trop ^^'. ça fait un drôle de flow...
01:16:716 (3) - x 252
01:16:879 (4) - x 424 (crée un h-dash ainsi)
01:16:879 (4) - remove clap a la base
pas mal de changements ensuite : http://puu.sh/beajv/b5e05a5b91.jpg
01:19:488 (6) - j'ai remis le 6 ici et il est a x 216
01:19:814 (7) - x124
Pour la suite y a des dashs discutables, mais, même si je ne vais pas m'amuser à tout pointer, regarde bien; beaucoup de tes cercles à la fin sont durs car les distances varient en pleins triplet/stream ! C'est donc un peu random :/. Fait attention à ça.

[Apocalypse]
00:01:499 (2) - x 101 ça fait cool, je l'ai reverse comme ça : http://puu.sh/beata/ebefa59601.jpg
euh. par contre...
Beaucoup beaucoup de choses brouillons ;w;. ça serait long à modder..; je te pointerais certaines choses par IRC !

[Overall]
Nice nice Kyu ! En revanche peut-être qu'il faudra seulement link Apocalypse, il y a encore du travail à faire là-dessus je pense ^^'.
Good luck !
edit j'oublie des mots dans mes phrases, nice. ;w;

Last edited by Krah 2014-08-30T18:47:21+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-09-01T16:35:56+00:00

Takuneru wrote:
It's time~ It's time to mod this ~ (oui, j'ai vraiment fredonné ça en ouvrant la map, pls don't judge me)
Anyway
Il est temps de passer au mod de ta rain, et de ton apocalypse ^^. Je peux modder la rain sans problème, pour l'apocalypse ça sera sûrement un peu plus restreint (comme tu le sais je viens de revenir, nooby skill more nooby =w=)

So without further ado...

[General]

[Rain]
You really improved it, though some parts are wowowow. Donc jev ais te dire les parts qui me paraissent changeables ou qui ne flow pas exactement bien, ou encore certaines parties qui peuvent être même mieux !

00:01:499 (2) - Crée un H-dash ça fait cool . ça met un peu de diff sans trop en donner. j'ai placé le 2 à x 448 perso. k
00:15:414 (1) - Enlève le whistle sur le repeat k
00:26:662 (4) - t'as mis un 3eme point pas utile, enlève le au clic droit (en mettant ton curseur sur le point) pour qu'il soit plus "normal" : http://puu.sh/be6JP/a47034e26b.jpg Je l'avais pas vu ça xD
00:29:923 (4) - Plus loin que les autres, il part trop vers la gauche. j'ai mis à x 40 perso k
00:33:183 (7,8) - statique alors que y a du rythme en rain c'est space ^^'. j'ai mis 7 a x 128 et 8 a x 96 J'ai plutot mis 7 a 108 et 8 a 56, ça donne plus de forme (je crois o_o)
00:39:216 (2) - x 136 est mieux, car ça break le flow du reste si trop loin. Ouep t'as raison
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,1) - ça ne va pas :/. C'est pas rain ça c'est deluge 2.0 xD. si tu veut garder la même pattern je te conseille ça : http://puu.sh/be8dG/1241154208.jpg. c à dire 3 a x 144, 4 a x 376, et 1 a x 144 aussi. Malgré tout je trouve ça pas hyper intuitif, je pense que tu peut faire autre chose, si tu planche je te dirais quoi ^^. Ouais c'est vrai xD, j'ai penché pour ça : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991208
si tu fait ces changements, il faut changer la suite, car vu les h-dash d'avant, la suite est trop méchante !
00:47:042 (2) - x 248 k
00:47:205 (3) - x 316 k
00:47:531 (4) - x 204 k
tout ça aide à ce que la pattern d'avant ne sois pas trop troublante pour le reste.
00:48:183 (6) - J'aurais plutot mis ce slider comme ça :p : http://puu.sh/be9bk/60e42d15a3.jpg k
00:52:586 (2) - en utilisant ma technique sure-kill (lol), je le place à x 180, c'est niquel perso. J'ai carrement supprimer, j'ai vu que ça collai pas avec la musique, j'ai poser ça : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991225
00:54:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - J'aime beaucoup. J'ai pensé à un peu mieux, lookie : http://puu.sh/be9uN/3f31db9635.jpg Woo pomal
00:55:194 (5) - a x 416 pour créer un h-dash vers le triplet. bouge tout le triplet et place ainsi 6 a x 196
j'ai aussi bougé le reste pour que ça reste cohérent : 00:55:683 (9) - et 00:56:009 (1) - x 256 00:56:173 (2) - x 320 En tout ça me donne ça: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991280
00:57:314 (8) - x 352 pour le mouvement. k
00:57:477 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Je trouve ça brouillon vraiment... remplace soit par des sliders, soit regarde bien les distances et crée peut-être quelques h-dash, ou alors soit consistant dans tes jumps, là pas trop ^^'. ça fait un drôle de flow... Voilou: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1991293
01:16:716 (3) - x 252 k
01:16:879 (4) - x 424 (crée un h-dash ainsi) k
01:16:879 (4) - remove clap a la base k
pas mal de changements ensuite : http://puu.sh/beajv/b5e05a5b91.jpg
01:19:488 (6) - j'ai remis le 6 ici et il est a x 216 k
01:19:814 (7) - x124 k
Pour la suite y a des dashs discutables, mais, même si je ne vais pas m'amuser à tout pointer, regarde bien; beaucoup de tes cercles à la fin sont durs car les distances varient en pleins triplet/stream ! C'est donc un peu random :/. Fait attention à ça. Ouki

[Apocalypse]
00:01:499 (2) - x 101 ça fait cool, je l'ai reverse comme ça : http://puu.sh/beata/ebefa59601.jpg
euh. par contre...
Beaucoup beaucoup de choses brouillons ;w;. ça serait long à modder..; je te pointerais certaines choses par IRC !

[Overall]
Nice nice Kyu ! En revanche peut-être qu'il faudra seulement link Apocalypse, il y a encore du travail à faire là-dessus je pense ^^'.
Good luck !
edit j'oublie des mots dans mes phrases, nice. ;w;

Marki taku ! o/

Manuxz

642 posts

Joined July 2012

Manuxz 2014-09-01T20:27:45+00:00

Hi owo/

NEL's Salad

00:27:966 (4) - Ctrl+G
00:28:618 (1) - Move to x:289
00:31:553 (1,2,3) - moves this to top that overlap with the previous notes and move this 00:31:553 (1) - to x:336
00:34:814 (4) - Move to x:384
00:35:303 (5) - Move to x:128
00:36:770 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - moves this to down that overlap with the previous notes -w-
00:37:586 (4,5) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhah6/f2b98f1a7e.jpg 00:37:586 (4) - x:368 and 00:37:912 (5) - x:144
00:46:716 (7) - Move to x:120
00:48:020 (4,5) - I recommend this http://puu.sh/bhaT0/8fa43e9153.jpg 00:48:020 (4) - x:176 and 00:48:346 (5) - x:161
00:54:216 (5) - Move to x:384 y:120
00:56:662 (3) - To be completely horizontal
01:01:227 (6) - Move to x:235
01:06:118 (2) - Ctrl+G?
01:07:096 (4) - Move to x:35
01:07:423 (5) - Move to x:256
01:13:944 (2,3,4) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhbTI/156cbbc914.jpg
01:18:020 (4) - Move to x:128
01:18:509 (5) - Move to x:288 and 01:18:673 (6) - x:224 and 01:18:999 (7) - x:384
01:21:933 (5) - Move to x:280
01:22:912 (8) - Move to x:193
01:25:520 (5) - Move to x:122

NEL's Platter

00:02:764 (4) - Move to x:160
00:09:631 (6) - try to do this slider http://puu.sh/bhdhd/1f05162bc3.jpg or http://puu.sh/bhdvr/4adfae580b.jpg and you could do more of those in the rest of the map xD
00:14:330 (7) - Move to x:176
00:21:406 (9) - Move to x:312
00:30:412 (4) - Move to x:256
00:32:531 (2) - ^
00:32:694 (3) - Move to x:72
00:38:075 (4) - Move to x:504
00:46:553 (2) - Move to x:107
00:50:792 (4) - To be completely horizontal
00:53:727 (6) - Move to x:166
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - all to be completely horizontal
00:59:923 (1,2,3) - Try other thing :s
01:00:901 (4,5) - ^
01:03:673 (4) - x:55 y:162
01:08:890 (4) - x:400
01:12:477 (6) - x:80
01:17:042 (3) - x:512
01:21:118 (3,4) - To be completely horizontal
01:21:933 (5,6) - Try to do this http://puu.sh/bhg6R/7e029a5e50.jpg

Platter

00:37:423 (4) - Move to x:196 y:272
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to use this patrion http://puu.sh/bhhE2/b0019a360f.jpg
00:53:727 (7) - Move to x:132
00:54:705 (1,2,3) - Consider adding jumps here >.<
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - 1) x:216 2) x:136 3) x:56
00:58:292 (4,5,6) - 4) x:136 5) x:215 6) x:294
00:58:944 (7,8,1) - 7) x:56 8) x:135 1) x:214
01:00:901 (5,6,7) - Ctrl+H
00:59:923 (1,2,3,4) - 1) x:364 2) x:310 3) x:256 4) x:309
01:09:542 (3,4,5,6) - Try to use this patrion http://puu.sh/bhjiT/9fe87f8842.jpg
01:10:683 (3) - Move to x:256
01:21:933 (5) - Ctrl+G and move to x:160

Rain

00:42:477 (2,3,4,5,6) - 2) x:208 3) x:352 4) x:160 5) x:304 6) x:208
00:43:292 (7) - Ctrl+G
00:46:390 (2) - Move to x:388
00:53:564 (5) - http://puu.sh/bhnwP/bb5e6f8878.jpg xD not how to explain in English but I think you get the picture D:
01:01:961 (2) - Move to x:128?D:
01:07:749 (6) - Move to x:241
01:10:846 (4) - Move to x:224
01:11:009 (5) - Move to x:416
01:16:553 (2) - Move to x:300
01:27:803 (9) - Move to x:109
01:28:129 (1) - Move to x:192

Excellent diff, charm me owo Good luck to the guys map ^^

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-09-02T09:52:15+00:00

Manuxz Sixx wrote:
Hi owo/

NEL's Salad

00:27:966 (4) - Ctrl+G
00:28:618 (1) - Move to x:289
00:31:553 (1,2,3) - moves this to top that overlap with the previous notes and move this 00:31:553 (1) - to x:336
00:34:814 (4) - Move to x:384
00:35:303 (5) - Move to x:128
00:36:770 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - moves this to down that overlap with the previous notes -w-
00:37:586 (4,5) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhah6/f2b98f1a7e.jpg 00:37:586 (4) - x:368 and 00:37:912 (5) - x:144
00:46:716 (7) - Move to x:120
00:48:020 (4,5) - I recommend this http://puu.sh/bhaT0/8fa43e9153.jpg 00:48:020 (4) - x:176 and 00:48:346 (5) - x:161
00:54:216 (5) - Move to x:384 y:120
00:56:662 (3) - To be completely horizontal
01:01:227 (6) - Move to x:235
01:06:118 (2) - Ctrl+G?
01:07:096 (4) - Move to x:35
01:07:423 (5) - Move to x:256
01:13:944 (2,3,4) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhbTI/156cbbc914.jpg
01:18:020 (4) - Move to x:128
01:18:509 (5) - Move to x:288 and 01:18:673 (6) - x:224 and 01:18:999 (7) - x:384
01:21:933 (5) - Move to x:280
01:22:912 (8) - Move to x:193
01:25:520 (5) - Move to x:122

NEL's Platter

00:02:764 (4) - Move to x:160
00:09:631 (6) - try to do this slider http://puu.sh/bhdhd/1f05162bc3.jpg or http://puu.sh/bhdvr/4adfae580b.jpg and you could do more of those in the rest of the map xD
00:14:330 (7) - Move to x:176
00:21:406 (9) - Move to x:312
00:30:412 (4) - Move to x:256
00:32:531 (2) - ^
00:32:694 (3) - Move to x:72
00:38:075 (4) - Move to x:504
00:46:553 (2) - Move to x:107
00:50:792 (4) - To be completely horizontal
00:53:727 (6) - Move to x:166
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - all to be completely horizontal
00:59:923 (1,2,3) - Try other thing :s
01:00:901 (4,5) - ^
01:03:673 (4) - x:55 y:162
01:08:890 (4) - x:400
01:12:477 (6) - x:80
01:17:042 (3) - x:512
01:21:118 (3,4) - To be completely horizontal
01:21:933 (5,6) - Try to do this http://puu.sh/bhg6R/7e029a5e50.jpg

Platter

00:37:423 (4) - Move to x:196 y:272 Ok
00:46:227 (1,2,3,4,5) - Try to use this patrion http://puu.sh/bhhE2/b0019a360f.jpg I had not thought of, thank you :3
00:53:727 (7) - Move to x:132 k
00:54:705 (1,2,3) - Consider adding jumps here >.< owo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1993348
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - 1) x:216 2) x:136 3) x:56 k
00:58:292 (4,5,6) - 4) x:136 5) x:215 6) x:294 k
00:58:944 (7,8,1) - 7) x:56 8) x:135 1) x:214 k
01:00:901 (5,6,7) - Ctrl+H thank you, I just learned a shortcut that will change my life
00:59:923 (1,2,3,4) - 1) x:364 2) x:310 3) x:256 4) x:309 k
01:09:542 (3,4,5,6) - Try to use this patrion http://puu.sh/bhjiT/9fe87f8842.jpg Ok
01:10:683 (3) - Move to x:256 k
01:21:933 (5) - Ctrl+G and move to x:160 thank you, I just learned a shortcut that will change my life

Rain

00:42:477 (2,3,4,5,6) - 2) x:208 3) x:352 4) x:160 5) x:304 6) x:208 Ok
00:43:292 (7) - Ctrl+G Ok *^*
00:46:390 (2) - Move to x:388 k
00:53:564 (5) - http://puu.sh/bhnwP/bb5e6f8878.jpg xD not how to explain in English but I think you get the picture D: Yup
01:01:961 (2) - Move to x:128?D: ok D:
01:07:749 (6) - Move to x:241 k
01:10:846 (4) - Move to x:224 k
01:11:009 (5) - Move to x:416 k
01:16:553 (2) - Move to x:300 k
01:27:803 (9) - Move to x:109 k
01:28:129 (1) - Move to x:192 k

Excellent diff, charm me owo Good luck to the guys map ^^

Excellent mod, charm me owo, THANK YOU MANU !

Takuneru

97 posts

Joined November 2011

Takuneru 2014-09-02T12:34:10+00:00

Manuxz Sixx wrote:
Hi owo/ Hi \owo

NEL's Salad

00:27:966 (4) - Ctrl+G I did, thank you !
00:28:618 (1) - Move to x:289 done
00:31:553 (1,2,3) - moves this to top that overlap with the previous notes and move this 00:31:553 (1) - to x:336 I reworked the pattern another way
00:34:814 (4) - Move to x:384 is fine the way it is =w=
00:35:303 (5) - Move to x:128 ^
00:36:770 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - moves this to down that overlap with the previous notes -w- I believe I've done what you mean =w=
00:37:586 (4,5) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhah6/f2b98f1a7e.jpg 00:37:586 (4) - x:368 and 00:37:912 (5) - x:144 did it and lowered the distances.
00:46:716 (7) - Move to x:120 silly meeeee
00:48:020 (4,5) - I recommend this http://puu.sh/bhaT0/8fa43e9153.jpg 00:48:020 (4) - x:176 and 00:48:346 (5) - x:161 I did it
00:54:216 (5) - Move to x:384 y:120 I did, slightly better, yes !
00:56:662 (3) - To be completely horizontal I prefer the way it is, sorry :/
01:01:227 (6) - Move to x:235 I did
01:06:118 (2) - Ctrl+G? I did and reworked the distance.
01:07:096 (4) - Move to x:35 I did
01:07:423 (5) - Move to x:256 silly me ~ thank you !
01:13:944 (2,3,4) - try to do this http://puu.sh/bhbTI/156cbbc914.jpg hm... I prefer my pattern, sorry :/
01:18:020 (4) - Move to x:128 moved to x 116
01:18:509 (5) - Move to x:288 and 01:18:673 (6) - x:224 and 01:18:999 (7) - x:384 just reworked the distance of 7. seems fine to me
01:21:933 (5) - Move to x:280 I moved to x 320, I'd prefer a little jump here :p
01:22:912 (8) - Move to x:193 x 320 as well
01:25:520 (5) - Move to x:122 I moved it to 84 to shrink the distance.

NEL's Platter

00:02:764 (4) - Move to x:160 moved to x 116
00:09:631 (6) - try to do this slider http://puu.sh/bhdhd/1f05162bc3.jpg or http://puu.sh/bhdvr/4adfae580b.jpg and you could do more of those in the rest of the map xD I prefer my own speciment of slide haha
00:14:330 (7) - Move to x:176 done
00:21:406 (9) - Move to x:312 done
00:30:412 (4) - Move to x:256 I remember why I did that but actually x 256 is better
00:32:531 (2) - ^ done
00:32:694 (3) - Move to x:72 done
00:38:075 (4) - Move to x:504 I feel it's cool the way it is...
00:46:553 (2) - Move to x:107 I changed things. Thank you !
00:50:792 (4) - To be completely horizontal I kept a slight curve still, but it's more horizontal now.
00:53:727 (6) - Move to x:166 reworked the distances
00:57:640 (1,2,3) - all to be completely horizontal I prefer them to have a slight curve
00:59:923 (1,2,3) - Try other thing :s hm... I'm not sure, I like it, but if somebody else points it, I'll change.
01:00:901 (4,5) - ^ ^
01:03:673 (4) - x:55 y:162 I normalized all distances. how careless of me not to have checked that...
01:08:890 (4) - x:400 done. Thank you.
01:12:477 (6) - x:80 a small jump here is cool, so I only moved it to x 68 :3
01:17:042 (3) - x:512 changed some distances. I'm so random it hurts how careless I can be.
01:21:118 (3,4) - To be completely horizontal Slightly more horizontal. I like them the way they are right now.
01:21:933 (5,6) - Try to do this http://puu.sh/bhg6R/7e029a5e50.jpg Works like a charm ! Thank you very much

Excellent diff, charm me owo Good luck to the guys map ^^ Thank you !

Thank you very much for modding ! It was very helpful

I did some personal changes along with your modding on both difficulties. I sent the two updated .osu to Kyuare and he will update shortly.

QHideaki13

Global Moderator

455 posts

Joined March 2011

QHideaki13 2014-09-16T15:00:54+00:00

Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

Sorry for the late. Let's do this.

[General]

Add "opening", "Geneon Universal Entertainment" and "Shinya Saito" to the tags
Untick "Enable Countdown" because it is not triggering, "Widescreen Support" because you don't have any SB, and also "Letterbox during breaks" because you don't have break time in all of the difficulty.

[NEL's Salad]
Your patterns are fine, but the problem is the beat placement, which is very important in the element of rhythm.
So, I would suggest you to take a look at my take as your guide to improve your difficulty. Feel free to use any of the patterns, as long as you are comfortable with it.

Settings:

Since this is the easiest difficulty in the mapset, you can use simple beats and jumps
Quadruplets (four chained circle) actually works well as a challenging pattern
00:57:314 - 00:59:270 You can use spinner here as an interchange before entering the kiai
Various music feedback can be found on this song, so you have several alternatives for placing the beat

Keep the spacing and distance safe

Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Zoetrope.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 36770
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 62205
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
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TitleUnicode:Zoetrope (TV Size)
Artist:yanaginagi
ArtistUnicode:yanaginagi
Creator:Kyuare
Version:Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)
Source:Amnesia
Tags:shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:6.5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

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//Background and Video events
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
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//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
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[Platter]
The kiai lacks of hyperdash jumps (I remember there is only one before the end), also try to avoid continuous hyperdash jumps during non-kiai like at 00:45:575 (5,1,2,3,4,5) -, this is too difficult for Platter level (but suitable for Rain difficulty).

00:19:806 (1) - Slightly increase the distance to the left (If you apply this, then move 00:21:006 (2) - to the right for some flow)
00:26:988 (3) - Move to 00:26:825 -, there is a beat that can be heard here instead of 00:26:988 -
00:28:618 (1,2) - A single circle for each one of them should be fine
00:30:575 (1) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider
00:31:879 (1) - A single 1/1 slider for this one, since there is no beat if a repeated 1/1 is used
00:33:673 - The next beat starts here after 00:33:346 (2) -
00:35:792 (4) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider
00:37:586 (5) - ^
00:49:406 (1) - Move this to the white line, the beat suits better
00:56:173 - Add a circle here, there is a beat here
01:01:716 (1) - Remove this and place a circle at 01:01:879 -, the beat starts there
01:09:542 (3,4) - If you prefer to follow the vocal, replace this two with a single slider
01:13:618 (3) - This slider should end at the red tick (01:13:781 -)
01:14:433 (1) - This slider should end at the white tick (01:14:596 -)
01:14:759 (1) - ^ (01:14:923 -)

[NEL's Platter]
Same comment as Kyuare's Platter. Also, try to avoid double hyperdash like at 01:21:933 (5,6,7) - as it is too hard for Platter level.

00:00:957 - 00:21:895 You should take a look at Kyuare's Platter for the correct beat placement, some of them sounds a bit off
00:26:825 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
00:28:455 - You can add a circle as well
00:29:433 - ^
00:29:923 - Remove the circle, there is no beat here
00:31:064 - Add a circle here since there is a beat
00:32:205 (1,2) - You can remove these two and place a slider at 00:32:042 - until 00:32:368 -
00:32:694 - ^
00:43:781 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
01:20:140 (11) - Move to 01:19:977 - instead
01:21:444 (4) - Move this to 01:21:607 -
01:22:749 - Add a circle here
01:23:075 - ^
01:23:401 - The current timeline is a bit harsh in my opinion (but I like it for some reason). Try this:
SPOILER

[Rain]
This can be improved. But at the same time be cautious especially at 01:20:955 (4,5,6) - , as some player might miss at that part.

00:03:848 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make the same as your Platter
(Also, why did you make a hyperdash at 00:00:957 (1,2) - , it is a calm part ;w;)
00:16:679 (3) - Slider ends at 00:17:583 -, (If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:17:944 -)
00:30:249 (5) - You can shorten the slider to 00:30:412 -, so that the slider tail can emphasize the beat at this part
(If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:30:575 -)
00:39:216 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
00:44:107 (2) - ^
00:45:249 (5) - Try this timeline? It suits your pattern.
SPOILER
00:47:042 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
00:54:950 (3) - Remove the circle, and add a circle at 00:55:113 -, the beat was supposed to be there
00:55:439 (7) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
00:56:743 (4) - Remove the circle, the actual stream starts at 00:56:825 -, which is the next one
01:01:716 (5) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here
01:05:792 (5) - Remove the slider, and you have 3 choices here:
SPOILER
- (1) Make a repeated 1/2 slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
  (2) Extend the slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
  (3) Add a circle here
01:12:232 - You can add a circle here to make the stream more consistent
01:15:412 (1) - If you want to make a repeated 1/1 slider, it actually begins at 01:15:575 - until 01:16:227 -
(If you apply this, then add a circle at 01:15:412 - and also 01:16:390 -)
01:18:020 (3) - This slider begins at 01:18:102 -, so if you apply this, then add a circle at 01:18:020 -

[]

Another issues found on this mapset is the SV spread, which need to be fix. All difficulty with 2.0x SV is very painful. Trust me, I have tried this before on my first mapset, and the feedback was the same as I said for now (which is not as I expected). ;_;

Suggestions for the SV spread:
1.4x - 1.7x - 1.7x - 2.0x
1.4x - 1.6x - 1.8x - 2.0x

(NEL's Salad - Platter - NEL'S Platter - Rain)

Remember to frequently check the AIMod after changing the SV. It is still not too late to rearrange the pattern (You can improve it and make it better!).

Last but not least, always check your NCs. Keep the new combo less than 10 if possible (I usually go for 8). Higher combo will stack the fruits on the plate and eventually block the players sight for catching.

Most importantly, I'm not going to override your style or something. Consider each of the suggestions given and think carefully before declining. You have the basic of mapping, which is a good start before moving further. I believe you guys can do your best and make your way to be the best!

That's all from me.
Kindly PM me if you didn't understand any part of my mod or you need to discuss something with me.
Again, I apologize for being late. Take a star from me.
Best of luck~

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-09-17T17:27:24+00:00

QHideaki13 wrote:
Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

Sorry for the late. Let's do this.

[General]
Add "opening", "Geneon Universal Entertainment" and "Shinya Saito" to the tags
Untick "Enable Countdown" because it is not triggering, "Widescreen Support" because you don't have any SB, and also "Letterbox during breaks" because you don't have break time in all of the difficulty.
[NEL's Salad]
Your patterns are fine, but the problem is the beat placement, which is very important in the element of rhythm.
So, I would suggest you to take a look at my take as your guide to improve your difficulty. Feel free to use any of the patterns, as long as you are comfortable with it.

Settings:
Since this is the easiest difficulty in the mapset, you can use simple beats and jumps
Quadruplets (four chained circle) actually works well as a challenging pattern
00:57:314 - 00:59:270 You can use spinner here as an interchange before entering the kiai
Various music feedback can be found on this song, so you have several alternatives for placing the beat
Keep the spacing and distance safe
Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Zoetrope.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 36770
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 62205
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Zoetrope (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:Zoetrope (TV Size)
Artist:yanaginagi
ArtistUnicode:yanaginagi
Creator:Kyuare
Version:Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)
Source:Amnesia
Tags:shoujo bishonens otome anime Takuneru
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:6.5
ApproachRate:6.5
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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448,192,2402,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,2764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,3125,2,0,L|80:192,1,70
240,192,3848,2,0,L|336:192,1,70
368,192,4390,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,4932,5,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,5294,2,0,L|416:192,1,70
448,192,5836,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,6378,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,6740,2,0,L|42:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,7824,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,8185,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,8547,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,192,8908,6,0,L|192:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,9631,2,0,L|304:192,1,70
176,192,10354,2,0,L|16:192,2,140,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,12161,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,12523,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,12885,2,0,L|186:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,13607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,13969,5,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,14330,2,0,L|432:192,1,70
192,192,15053,2,0,L|96:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,16137,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,16499,2,0,L|64:192,1,70
448,192,17583,5,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,17944,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,18306,2,0,L|48:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,19431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,19806,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,20206,2,0,L|208:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,192,21006,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,21406,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,22058,12,0,26010,0:0:0:0:
144,192,26499,6,0,L|48:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,27151,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,192,27477,2,0,L|352:192,1,70
208,192,27966,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,28292,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,28455,2,0,L|208:192,1,70
336,192,28944,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,29270,2,0,L|64:192,1,70
256,192,29760,5,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,30086,2,0,L|378:192,3,70,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,30901,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,31064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,31227,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,31553,2,0,L|134:192,3,70,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,32368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,32694,6,0,L|304:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,33183,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,33510,2,0,L|464:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,34162,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,34488,2,0,L|160:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,34977,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,35303,6,0,L|198:192,3,70,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,36118,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,36281,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,36444,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,36770,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,36933,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,37096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,37260,2,0,L|470:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,37912,2,0,L|128:192,1,70
352,192,38401,2,0,L|224:192,1,105.000004005432
64,192,39053,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,39379,6,0,L|336:192,1,140,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,40031,2,0,L|464:96,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,40520,2,0,L|320:112,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,192,41009,2,0,L|16:192,1,175
208,192,41662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,41988,6,0,L|454:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,192,42477,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,42640,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,42803,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,43129,2,0,L|144:192,1,70
256,192,43618,2,0,L|400:192,1,140
144,192,44270,2,0,L|288:192,1,140,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,44923,5,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,45249,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,45575,2,0,B|80:192|80:192|144:192,1,140
256,192,46390,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,46553,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,46716,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,46879,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,47205,6,0,L|32:192,2,140,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,48183,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,48509,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,48836,2,0,L|304:192,1,140,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,49488,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,49814,6,0,L|480:192,2,154.000004699707,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,192,50792,2,0,L|240:192,1,154.000004699707
352,192,51444,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,51770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,52096,2,0,L|64:192,1,175
256,192,52749,5,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,53075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,53401,2,0,L|335:192,1,175
464,192,54053,2,0,L|256:192,1,175
160,192,54705,6,0,L|55:192,1,105.000004005432
256,192,55194,2,0,L|151:192,1,105.000004005432,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,55683,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,56009,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,56336,2,0,L|112:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,57314,12,0,59270,0:0:0:0:
112,192,59923,5,0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,60086,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,60249,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,60412,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,60901,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,61064,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,61227,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,61390,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,61879,2,0,L|208:192,1,140,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,62531,6,0,L|464:192,1,90.9999958343508,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,62857,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,63020,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,63183,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,63509,2,0,L|240:192,1,181.999991668702
320,192,63999,2,0,L|416:192,2,90.9999958343508,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,192,64651,5,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,64814,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,64977,2,0,L|368:192,1,90.9999958343508
96,192,65466,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,65792,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,66118,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,192,66281,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,66444,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,66770,5,0,0:0:0:0:
208,192,66933,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,67096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,192,67259,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,67423,2,0,L|80:192,1,181.999991668702
304,192,68075,5,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,68401,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,68727,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,192,68890,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,69053,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,69379,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,69542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,192,69868,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,70031,6,0,L|32:192,2,90.9999958343508,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,70683,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,71009,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,71336,1,0,0:0:0:0:
32,192,71499,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,71662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,71988,5,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,72151,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,72314,2,0,L|480:192,1,181.999991668702
288,192,72966,5,0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,73129,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,73292,2,0,L|80:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,73944,2,0,L|480:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,74433,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,74759,2,0,L|208:192,1,140
432,192,75412,2,0,L|336:192,1,70
144,192,75901,5,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,76227,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,76553,2,0,L|48:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,77205,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,77368,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,77694,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,77857,2,0,L|208:192,1,140
64,192,78509,6,0,L|160:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,78999,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,79325,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,79651,2,0,L|80:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,80303,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,80466,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,192,80629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,80792,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,81118,6,0,L|192:192,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,81607,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81933,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,192,82259,2,0,L|496:192,2,70,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,82912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,192,83075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,83401,6,0,L|352:112,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,83890,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,84216,2,0,L|448:192,4,70,0|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,85194,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,192,85520,2,0,L|126:192,3,77.0000023498536,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,192,86336,2,0,L|400:192,1,105.000004005432
160,192,86825,2,0,L|48:192,1,105.000004005432
256,192,87314,5,0,0:0:0:0:
448,192,87640,2,0,L|336:192,1,105.000004005432,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,88129,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,192,88292,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,192,88455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
[Platter]
The kiai lacks of hyperdash jumps (I remember there is only one before the end), also try to avoid continuous hyperdash jumps during non-kiai like at 00:45:575 (5,1,2,3,4,5) -, this is too difficult for Platter level (but suitable for Rain difficulty).
I did a better job of preparing before this pattern for make it softer, I want to keep this pattern, sorry >w<
00:19:806 (1) - Slightly increase the distance to the left (If you apply this, then move 00:21:006 (2) - to the right for some flow) oooh yes :3
00:26:988 (3) - Move to 00:26:825 -, there is a beat that can be heard here instead of 00:26:988 - ok
00:28:618 (1,2) - A single circle for each one of them should be fine I agree
00:30:575 (1) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider Ok *-*
00:31:879 (1) - A single 1/1 slider for this one, since there is no beat if a repeated 1/1 is used k
00:33:673 - The next beat starts here after 00:33:346 (2) - oooh :3
00:35:792 (4) - You can replace this with a triplet or a repeated 1/1 slider ok
00:37:586 (5) - ^ k
00:49:406 (1) - Move this to the white line, the beat suits better Ok
00:56:173 - Add a circle here, there is a beat here I have not noticed o_o
01:01:716 (1) - Remove this and place a circle at 01:01:879 -, the beat starts there Ok
01:09:542 (3,4) - If you prefer to follow the vocal, replace this two with a single slider Fine
01:13:618 (3) - This slider should end at the red tick (01:13:781 -) ok
01:14:433 (1) - This slider should end at the white tick (01:14:596 -) ok
01:14:759 (1) - ^ (01:14:923 -)
Ok ok

[NEL's Platter]
Same comment as Kyuare's Platter. Also, try to avoid double hyperdash like at 01:21:933 (5,6,7) - as it is too hard for Platter level.

00:00:957 - 00:21:895 You should take a look at Kyuare's Platter for the correct beat placement, some of them sounds a bit off
00:26:825 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
00:28:455 - You can add a circle as well
00:29:433 - ^
00:29:923 - Remove the circle, there is no beat here
00:31:064 - Add a circle here since there is a beat
00:32:205 (1,2) - You can remove these two and place a slider at 00:32:042 - until 00:32:368 -
00:32:694 - ^
00:43:781 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard
01:20:140 (11) - Move to 01:19:977 - instead
01:21:444 (4) - Move this to 01:21:607 -
01:22:749 - Add a circle here
01:23:075 - ^
01:23:401 - The current timeline is a bit harsh in my opinion (but I like it for some reason). Try this:
SPOILER
[Rain]
This can be improved. But at the same time be cautious especially at 01:20:955 (4,5,6) - , as some player might miss at that part. I made sure that this passage is softer, but I want to keep this pattern, sorry >w<

00:03:848 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make the same as your Platter k
(Also, why did you make a hyperdash at 00:00:957 (1,2) - , it is a calm part ;w;) Ooh >w<
00:16:679 (3) - Slider ends at 00:17:583 -, (If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:17:944 -) k
00:30:249 (5) - You can shorten the slider to 00:30:412 -, so that the slider tail can emphasize the beat at this part k
(If you apply this, then add a circle at 00:30:575 -) owo
00:39:216 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here ok
00:44:107 (2) - ^ k
00:45:249 (5) - Try this timeline? It suits your pattern. oooh, ok :3
SPOILER
00:47:042 (2) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here k
00:54:950 (3) - Remove the circle, and add a circle at 00:55:113 -, the beat was supposed to be there k
00:55:439 (7) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here k
00:56:743 (4) - Remove the circle, the actual stream starts at 00:56:825 -, which is the next one Ok
01:01:716 (5) - Remove the circle, since there is no beat here k
01:05:792 (5) - Remove the slider, and you have 3 choices here:
SPOILER

(1) Make a repeated 1/2 slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
(2) Extend the slider from 01:05:466 (4) -
(3) Add a circle here
ok owo
01:12:232 - You can add a circle here to make the stream more consistent ok *-*
01:15:412 (1) - If you want to make a repeated 1/1 slider, it actually begins at 01:15:575 - until 01:16:227 - k
(If you apply this, then add a circle at 01:15:412 - and also 01:16:390 -) owo
01:18:020 (3) - This slider begins at 01:18:102 -, so if you apply this, then add a circle at 01:18:020 -
ok :3

[]

Another issues found on this mapset is the SV spread, which need to be fix. All difficulty with 2.0x SV is very painful. Trust me, I have tried this before on my first mapset, and the feedback was the same as I said for now (which is not as I expected). ;_;

Suggestions for the SV spread:
1.4x - 1.7x - 1.7x - 2.0x
1.4x - 1.6x - 1.8x - 2.0x

(NEL's Salad - Platter - NEL'S Platter - Rain)

Remember to frequently check the AIMod after changing the SV. It is still not too late to rearrange the pattern (You can improve it and make it better!).

Last but not least, always check your NCs. Keep the new combo less than 10 if possible (I usually go for 8). Higher combo will stack the fruits on the plate and eventually block the players sight for catching.

Most importantly, I'm not going to override your style or something. Consider each of the suggestions given and think carefully before declining. You have the basic of mapping, which is a good start before moving further. I believe you guys can do your best and make your way to be the best!

That's all from me.
Kindly PM me if you didn't understand any part of my mod or you need to discuss something with me.
Again, I apologize for being late. Take a star from me.
Best of luck~

Thank you very much, I was right to be patient to receive a quality mod from you *q*

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2014-09-25T10:44:47+00:00

Kyuare wrote:
QHideaki13 wrote:
Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

[Rain]
00:07:282 (3) - 296
00:10:354 - add note here x48
00:14:691 (5) - ctrl+ g and move to 220
00:15:414 (1) - move to 392
00:16:499 (2) - 68
00:16:679 (3) - 244 it's will be good place

00:29:596 (3) - ctrl+ g and move to 224

[NEL's platter]
00:10:354 - note here x52

[Platter]
00:10:354 - note here x216

Nice platter

salad is fine for me

good luck for rank111!!!oneoneone

-Gnc

Kyuare

228 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

Kyuare 2014-09-26T11:42:29+00:00

Kyuare wrote:
Genocide wrote:
[Rain]
00:07:282 (3) - 296 fixed
00:10:354 - add note here x48 fixed
00:14:691 (5) - ctrl+ g and move to 220 fixed
00:15:414 (1) - move to 392 fixed
00:16:499 (2) - 68 fixed
00:16:679 (3) - 244 it's will be good place fixed

00:29:596 (3) - ctrl+ g and move to 224 OK

[NEL's platter]
00:10:354 - note here x52

[Platter]
00:10:354 - note here x216 fixed

Nice platter

salad is fine for me

good luck for rank111!!!oneoneone

-Gnc

Thank you very much for this mod, a little short, but made the start better

Takuneru

97 posts

Joined November 2011

Takuneru 2014-10-12T19:16:14+00:00

Hello, after all the inactivity, I'm more or less back again, at least a lil bit more online (and holidays soon, so yeah)
I haven't applied everything, I will put this sentence on strike when done. For now only the platter has been edited, and the salad is still undergoing the SV changes. And because I'm not finished yet, I'll finish some personal re-working I wanted done on my platter, and maybe on my salad too.
All done. I will send the changes to Kyuare. Sorry for all the delay... I did some personal re-adjustments on the platter, and reworked the salad with SV and other stuff, overall actually easier and more salad-like...

QHideaki13 wrote:
Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

Sorry for the late. Let's do this.

[General]
Add "opening", "Geneon Universal Entertainment" and "Shinya Saito" to the tags applied
Untick "Enable Countdown" because it is not triggering, "Widescreen Support" because you don't have any SB, and also "Letterbox during breaks" because you don't have break time in all of the difficulty.applied

[NEL's Salad]
Your patterns are fine, but the problem is the beat placement, which is very important in the element of rhythm.
So, I would suggest you to take a look at my take as your guide to improve your difficulty. Feel free to use any of the patterns, as long as you are comfortable with it. I changed several things. In comparision to yours is mine is VERY bad... But I still kept the original spirit I mapped with

Settings:
Since this is the easiest difficulty in the mapset, you can use simple beats and jumps I simplified it
Quadruplets (four chained circle) actually works well as a challenging pattern
00:57:314 - 00:59:270 You can use spinner here as an interchange before entering the kiai I prefer keeping the pattern I have... But the idea is good as expected and I may add this in the future if people prefer it
Various music feedback can be found on this song, so you have several alternatives for placing the beat
Keep the spacing and distance safe
Q-H's Salad (No Hitsounds)
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Zoetrope.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 36770
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
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[NEL's Platter]
Same comment as Kyuare's Platter. Also, try to avoid double hyperdash like at 01:21:933 (5,6,7) - as it is too hard for Platter level. changed it... too bad I liked it :'( btw, I didn't change too much kiai time mapping, as I believe even though it has less hyperdashes, I put a lot of strain at kiai times, and I believe it's enough to justify the kiai.
00:00:957 - 00:21:895 You should take a look at Kyuare's Platter for the correct beat placement, some of them sounds a bit off ah, yeah. Some were a bit off, reworked them
00:26:825 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard done
00:28:455 - You can add a circle as well done
00:29:433 - ^ I prefer not to here.
00:29:923 - Remove the circle, there is no beat here did it and removed the next circle
00:31:064 - Add a circle here since there is a beat done
00:32:205 (1,2) - You can remove these two and place a slider at 00:32:042 - until 00:32:368 - I kept my patterns, sorry I prefer it this way...
00:32:694 - ^ ^
00:43:781 - Add a circle here, a beat can be heard I prefer my pattern, Keep the timeline clean and it appears nice to my hears with those hitsounds
01:20:140 (11) - Move to 01:19:977 - instead done, thanks
01:21:444 (4) - Move this to 01:21:607 - I prefer the way it is, I don't understand why you wanted that ?
01:22:749 - Add a circle here hmm, no, because it's the same spaced circles on the timeline as before
01:23:075 - ^
01:23:401 - The current timeline is a bit harsh in my opinion (but I like it for some reason). Try this: kept my patterns for now
SPOILER

Another issues found on this mapset is the SV spread, which need to be fix. All difficulty with 2.0x SV is very painful. Trust me, I have tried this before on my first mapset, and the feedback was the same as I said for now (which is not as I expected). ;_;

Suggestions for the SV spread:
1.4x - 1.7x - 1.7x - 2.0x
1.4x - 1.6x - 1.8x - 2.0x <We will take that

(NEL's Salad - Platter - NEL'S Platter - Rain)

Remember to frequently check the AIMod after changing the SV. It is still not too late to rearrange the pattern (You can improve it and make it better!).

Last but not least, always check your NCs. Keep the new combo less than 10 if possible (I usually go for 8). Higher combo will stack the fruits on the plate and eventually block the players sight for catching.

Most importantly, I'm not going to override your style or something. Consider each of the suggestions given and think carefully before declining. You have the basic of mapping, which is a good start before moving further. I believe you guys can do your best and make your way to be the best!

That's all from me.
Kindly PM me if you didn't understand any part of my mod or you need to discuss something with me.
Again, I apologize for being late. Take a star from me.
Best of luck~

Last edited by Takuneru 2014-10-31T15:33:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Takuneru

97 posts

Joined November 2011

Takuneru 2014-10-31T15:22:02+00:00

Genocide wrote:
Hi there~
CTB Mod as promised.

[NEL's platter]
00:10:354 - note here x52 done Thanks !

Nice platter

salad is fine for me

good luck for rank111!!!oneoneone

-Gnc

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2014-11-08T16:16:35+00:00

[General]

Some things:

Check tags between diffs, AiMod reports some conflicts
There's no Storyboard, so Widescreen Support shouldn't be enabled. Check this on all difs
There are countdown conflicts between diffs, check this!

[

NEL's Salad]

Timeline and Patterns

00:10:354 - There's a note missing here. I'd add it like this:
SPOILER
00:15:776 (6) - I wouldn't hurt to have a bit more distance here, so move it a bit to the right (x:172 seems good)
00:26:988 (2,3) - Increase distance on this part for some more movement. To keep next pattern almost intact, move 00:27:477 (3,4) - together to x:192.
00:32:694 (3,4) - Increase distance on this part for a bit more movement. Putting it to x:228 seems okay, as it doesn't increase the distance to (5) too much.
00:34:814 (2) - Move it to x:404, it reduces the jump a bit to the point it's catchable without dashing, but it requires precision so newer players will still dash.
00:37:096 (2,3,4) - I find these jumps a bit to excessive for a Salad. I would reduce the distance between them, maybe like this:
SPOILER
00:50:466 (3,4) - It's better to map it to the vocals, as it's more intuitive to play because it follows what you've done in previous parts. So, I'd map the timeline like this:
SPOILER
I also think 00:51:444 (5,6) - should be moved to increase movement. I suggest putting it on x:208. Overall, I would do this:
SPOILER
01:05:466 (1,2) - Add distance between these two, it's the Kiai Time!
01:11:009 (2) - If you stack it with (5) you make these part a bit more interesting

New Combo

00:03:848 (6) - Add NC
00:08:908 (6) - Add NC
00:13:969 (4) - Add NC
00:15:053 (5) - Add NC
00:45:575 (4) - Add NC
00:50:629 (4) - Add NC
00:53:238 (4) - Add NC
01:03:836 (3) - Add NC
01:05:466 (1) - Remove NC
01:06:118 (2) - Add NC
01:09:379 (3) - Add NC
01:11:662 (5) - Add NC
01:14:270 (3) - Add NC
01:24:868 (4) - Add NC
01:27:314 (5) - Add NC

[

Platter]

Song Settings

Try AR8.2 to do magic with this stream: 01:11:743 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

Timeline and Patterns

00:29:433 (2,3) - Increase distance a bit, x:192 creates a better movement.
00:37:423 (4,5) - Same idea, separate them a bit. Setting (5) at x:76 plays fine.
00:42:803 (3,4,5,6) - I would increase distance in this part. How about this?
SPOILER
00:51:281 (5,6,7) - Jump should be at (5,6) instead of (6,7), because of higher vocal.
01:02:857 (2,3) - Add distance to fit the stronger vocal at 01:03:183 - . To keep the patterns intact, move this all together 01:02:857 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - to the left.
01:06:118 (1,2,1) - Hyperdashing these two might be a good idea. One way is this:
SPOILER
01:08:727 (1,2) - This part can also have a higher distance
01:16:553 (1,2) - ^
01:24:542 (4) - You can split it into two circles to make a jump that fits the vocals at 01:24:705 -
01:25:846 (8) - ^

New Combo

00:15:414 (4) - Add NC
00:35:792 (4) - Add NC
00:38:075 (6) - Add NC
00:38:401 (1) - Remove NC
00:39:053 (3) - Add NC
00:40:683 (8) - Add NC
00:41:009 (1) - Remove NC
00:48:020 (4) - Add NC
00:50:629 (3) - Add NC
00:53:401 (5) - Add NC
01:14:433 (6) - Add NC
01:15:575 (9) - Add NC
01:24:868 (5) - Add NC

[

NEL's Platter]

Timeline and Patterns

00:10:716 (1,2,3) - I would increase distance between these objects to keep the same spacing as 00:10:354 (7,1) -. One option is this:
SPOILER
00:18:306 (3,4) - Increase distance a bit.
00:21:406 (9) - End this on the blue tick.
00:28:618 (7) - Increase the distance here to create a jump, due to the strong beat. Around x:192 is fine.
00:30:575 (3,4) - This distance is too large, move (4) to x:288 to decrease the distance and have a not-so-hard jump to (5).
00:40:846 (7,8) - This jump doesn't fit. If you listen closely, the stronger vocal is on (7)'s tail, so I would split the slider and create a small jump on the new notes. Something like this:
SPOILER
00:49:977 (2) - This feels weird as a 1/1 slider because there's a strong vocal in the middle of it. Change it to a 1/2 repeat slider. This creates an hyperdash, check it if you like it:
SPOILER
00:52:586 (3) - This one doesn't sound right. Make it a 1/2 slider starting on the white tick at 00:52:749 -
00:56:009 (10) - This one should start on the white tick at 00:56:009 - . Note that, because of the SV change, it will break it. I suggest this:
SPOILER
01:03:673 (4,5,6) - Replace them with a 1/2 repeat slider to add some variety (it looks like a 1/2 spam) and to follow vocals better. Like this:
SPOILER
01:11:336 (3,4,5,6) - I'd replace this part with this timeline, it follows vocal better:
SPOILER
Same suggestions apply for the second part of the Kiai Time.

New Combo

00:03:848 (7) - Add NC
00:09:631 (6) - Add NC
00:10:716 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:523 (4) - Add NC
00:15:776 (7) - Add NC
00:17:583 (1) - Remove NC
00:18:306 (3) - Add NC
00:28:618 (7) - Add NC
00:29:596 (1) - Remove NC
00:40:357 (5) - Add NC
00:44:270 (7) - Add NC
00:53:401 (5) - Add NC
00:56:009 (6) - Add NC
01:03:673 (4) - Add NC
01:09:053 (5) - Add NC
01:14:270 (4) - Add NC
01:18:183 (6) - Add NC
01:21:933 (6) - Add NC
01:24:705 (5) - Add NC
01:27:314 (5) - Add NC

[

Rain]

Timeline and Patterns

00:15:414 (1,2,3) - I would move these three to the right, (1) because it is too close to the previous object and (2,3) to keep the distance with previous slider.
00:28:455 (6,7,8) - Replace them with a circle at 00:28:618 -. This is to create more variety and because adding 1/1 jumps is easy.
00:30:575 (6,7) - This hyperdash doesn't really fit well. I suggest removing it.
00:40:194 (5,6) - I don't think that 1/4 hyperdash is really fitting. Make (5) a 1/2 slider.
00:43:537 (9) - Remove it, it creates an hyperdash that's extremely hard. If you want to keep the hyperdash, move 00:43:618 (1) - to the left border.
01:26:173 (3,4,1) - Replace (4) with two circles: place the first one closer to (3) than actual (4)'s head. Place the second circle around x:96 to create an hyperdash. Like this:
SPOILER
01:28:455 (3) - Add a finishing hyperdash

I'm still unsure about some parts, but I'll let them pass for now.

New Combo

00:18:306 (6) - Add NC
00:19:618 (1) - Remove NC
00:19:806 (2) - Add NC
00:29:923 (4) - Add NC
00:32:531 (5) - Add NC
00:33:510 (1) - Remove NC
00:40:194 (5) - Add NC
00:42:966 (6) - Add NC
00:48:183 (5) - Add NC
00:50:629 (4) - Add NC
00:52:423 (1) - Remove NC
00:53:564 (4) - Add NC
01:03:836 (4) - Add NC
01:04:325 (1) - Remove NC
01:04:977 (3) - Add NC
01:06:118 (1) - Remove NC
01:06:444 (2) - Add NC
01:12:314 (7) - Add NC
01:16:879 (5) - Add NC
01:19:488 (6) - Add NC
01:27:314 (5) - Add NC

Takuneru

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Takuneru 2014-11-08T20:27:04+00:00

[quote="ZiRoX"][General]

Some things:

Check tags between diffs, AiMod reports some conflicts
There's no Storyboard, so Widescreen Support shouldn't be enabled. Check this on all difs
There are countdown conflicts between diffs, check this!

I will tell Kyu about this; It's his Platter that conflicts.

[

NEL's Salad]

Timeline and Patterns

00:10:354 - There's a note missing here. I'd add it like this:
SPOILER
> I'd prefer not to add it there on the salad, I believe the current dash and pause is okay.
00:15:776 (6) - I wouldn't hurt to have a bit more distance here, so move it a bit to the right (x:172 seems good) > Did so, you're right, thanks.
00:26:988 (2,3) - Increase distance on this part for some more movement. To keep next pattern almost intact, move 00:27:477 (3,4) - together to x:192. > Yeah, the current seemed actually a tad awkward. increased the distance and changed the 3,4
00:32:694 (3,4) - Increase distance on this part for a bit more movement. Putting it to x:228 seems okay, as it doesn't increase the distance to (5) too much. > did so
00:34:814 (2) - Move it to x:404, it reduces the jump a bit to the point it's catchable without dashing, but it requires precision so newer players will still dash. > Reduced the jump, I was being mean to new players D:
00:37:096 (2,3,4) - I find these jumps a bit to excessive for a Salad. I would reduce the distance between them, maybe like this:
SPOILER
> Done
00:50:466 (3,4) - It's better to map it to the vocals, as it's more intuitive to play because it follows what you've done in previous parts. So, I'd map the timeline like this:
SPOILER
> Done
I also think 00:51:444 (5,6) - should be moved to increase movement. I suggest putting it on x:208. Overall, I would do this:
SPOILER
> Done
01:05:466 (1,2) - Add distance between these two, it's the Kiai Time! > KIAI TIME
01:11:009 (2) - If you stack it with (5) you make these part a bit more interesting

> You're so right... How come I haven't done that.

New Combo

00:03:848 (6) - Add NC
00:08:908 (6) - Add NC
00:13:969 (4) - Add NC
00:15:053 (5) - Add NC
00:45:575 (4) - Add NC
00:50:629 (4) - Add NC
01:09:379 (3) - Add NC
01:11:662 (5) - Add NC
01:27:314 (5) - Add NC

(all of the NC that remains are those that I applied)

[

NEL's Platter]

Timeline and Patterns

00:10:716 (1,2,3) - I would increase distance between these objects to keep the same spacing as 00:10:354 (7,1) -. One option is this:
SPOILER
> I rather not, it's made to be calm.
00:18:306 (3,4) - Increase distance a bit. > yup, better
00:21:406 (9) - End this on the blue tick. > Doesn't it sound good the way it is ?
00:28:618 (7) - Increase the distance here to create a jump, due to the strong beat. Around x:192 is fine. > Moved a bit
00:30:575 (3,4) - This distance is too large, move (4) to x:288 to decrease the distance and have a not-so-hard jump to (5).
00:40:846 (7,8) - This jump doesn't fit. If you listen closely, the stronger vocal is on (7)'s tail, so I would split the slider and create a small jump on the new notes. Something like this:
SPOILER
> Reorganized the pattern
00:49:977 (2) - This feels weird as a 1/1 slider because there's a strong vocal in the middle of it. Change it to a 1/2 repeat slider. This creates an hyperdash, check it if you like it:
SPOILER
changed some things to make the overall gameplay better
00:52:586 (3) - This one doesn't sound right. Make it a 1/2 slider starting on the white tick at 00:52:749 -
00:56:009 (10) - This one should start on the white tick at 00:56:009 - . Note that, because of the SV change, it will break it. I suggest this:
SPOILER
01:03:673 (4,5,6) - Replace them with a 1/2 repeat slider to add some variety (it looks like a 1/2 spam) and to follow vocals better. Like this:
SPOILER
> You're right, it looks like I spammed 1/2 sliders there.
01:11:336 (3,4,5,6) - I'd replace this part with this timeline, it follows vocal better:
SPOILER

did tweaks and modifications toward the end to make it more challenging and more fun
Same suggestions apply for the second part of the Kiai Time.

New Combo

00:03:848 (7) - Add NC
00:09:631 (6) - Add NC
00:10:716 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:523 (4) - Add NC
00:15:776 (7) - Add NC
00:17:583 (1) - Remove NC
00:18:306 (3) - Add NC
00:28:618 (7) - Add NC
00:29:596 (1) - Remove NC
00:40:357 (5) - Add NC
00:44:270 (7) - Add NC
00:53:401 (5) - Add NC
00:56:009 (6) - Add NC
01:03:673 (4) - Add NC
01:09:053 (5) - Add NC
01:14:270 (4) - Add NC
01:18:183 (6) - Add NC
01:21:933 (6) - Add NC
01:24:705 (5) - Add NC
01:27:314 (5) - Add NC
> I forgot to post and did some NC tweaks along with yours. teehee

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