Shurelia wrote:

Found another Bug from "EX EX" diff.

Try to convert it to CtB and you'll find this.

ziin wrote:

Shurelia wrote:

Found another Bug from "EX EX" diff.

Try to convert it to CtB and you'll find this.

what is this? Pictures don't speak 1000 words if you can't read them.

Shurelia wrote:

Found another Bug from "EX EX" diff.

Try to convert it to CtB and you'll find this.

Mazzerin wrote:

and how didnt these 'issues' get noticed in the first dq?

Fycho wrote:

Random space streams

1. 02:13:717 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) –It’s creative, but it doesn’t have playability, and it doesn’t fit the music.

Fycho wrote:

Please keep in mind that stuff listed above are just examples. These should be generally applied on the difficulty thoroughly so as to avoid further disqualification. For further assistance, please contact BNG members. Good luck.
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uNable wrote:

good thing this sh** isn't ranked

Kiiwa wrote:

uNable wrote:

good thing this sh** isn't ranked

wut

Bakuenjin wrote:

he is right. all the 5*+ maps (I haven't played the easier maps yet, since I don't really care about them), except Oracle's Expert (and this diff is average) are simply bad mapped. The song has way more potential than what these mappers created. I am not trying to hate anybody, but all the diffs have to be polished ALOT before this deserves to be ranked. Since I am not that experienced with mapping or modding, I can't really point out what exactly is bad, but I played enough to say, that there are alot of things that has to be improved.

Hedgeturtle wrote:

Well you should try the 5* map then (Yuki's Another), I think it's the best map in this mapset.

I kinda agree on others, the next four difficulties feel like they slowly progress into Hollow Wings' EX EX.

Can't say anything bad about Spec's diff, except the map doesn't feel that "Spectator-ish" for some reason.
Really wish this song would be ranked, I love the song.

Fycho wrote:

Hello, your map has to be taken away from the Qualified section by the QAT due to the following justifications:

1. Overdone ”EX EX “difficulty which causes gameplay issues, examples will be listed below. no gameplay issue exists in this map.

[EX EX]
nothing is unplayble/unreadble/unrankble in this map, no change.

general reply: every patterns follow different tracks of the song (contain flow/"distance"/sv/etc.), i think that's all mappers do with their maps. anyone can ask my explanation for every detail of the map's pattern one by one.

Chaotic/Unreasonable spacing usage

1. 00:16:460 (1,2)
   
2. 00:25:374 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2)
3. 00:29:831 (1,2)
4. 01:00:003 (1,2,3)
5. 01:05:146 (1,2,3,1,2,3)
6. 01:26:917 (1,2,3,4,5)
7. 01:32:917 (3,4) - , 01:35:317 (1,2,3,4)
8. 01:37:289 (8,1)

Abrupt speed-down sliders

1. 00:43:546 (1)
2. 01:15:260 (4) – comparing with 01:19:546 (1) -01:22:288 (1) -01:25:031 (1) -, it’s so random.
3. 01:37:374 (1)
4. 02:08:231 (1)

Inconsistent spaces when SV changes

1. 01:20:574 (2,1)

Unreadable patterns

1. 01:15:603 (3) what???

Random space streams

1. 02:13:717 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) –It’s creative, but it doesn’t have playability, and it doesn’t fit the music. idk why this doesn't have playability when people can play it.

Unreasonable 1/8 sliders

1. 00:31:717 (2,3) –Let’s say, 1/4s fit much better changed this.

Please keep in mind that stuff listed above are just examples. These should be generally applied on the difficulty thoroughly so as to avoid further disqualification. For further assistance, please contact BNG members. Good luck.

###MG

Fycho wrote:

Hello, your map has to be taken away from the Qualified section by the QAT due to the following justifications:

1. Overdone ”EX EX “difficulty which causes gameplay issues, examples will be listed below.

[EX EX]

Chaotic/Unreasonable spacing usage

1. 00:16:460 (1,2)
   
2. 00:25:374 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2)
3. 00:29:831 (1,2)
4. 01:00:003 (1,2,3)
5. 01:05:146 (1,2,3,1,2,3)
6. 01:26:917 (1,2,3,4,5)
7. 01:32:917 (3,4) - , 01:35:317 (1,2,3,4)
8. 01:37:289 (8,1)

Abrupt speed-down sliders

1. 00:43:546 (1)
2. 01:15:260 (4) – comparing with 01:19:546 (1) -01:22:288 (1) -01:25:031 (1) -, it’s so random.
3. 01:37:374 (1)
4. 02:08:231 (1)

Inconsistent spaces when SV changes

1. 01:20:574 (2,1)

Unreadable patterns

1. 01:15:603 (3)

Random space streams

1. 02:13:717 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) –It’s creative, but it doesn’t have playability, and it doesn’t fit the music.

Unreasonable 1/8 sliders

1. 00:31:717 (2,3) –Let’s say, 1/4s fit much better

Please keep in mind that stuff listed above are just examples. These should be generally applied on the difficulty thoroughly so as to avoid further disqualification. For further assistance, please contact BNG members. Good luck.

###MG

Chewin wrote:

I can't understand why so much people are complaining about the DQ of this mapset.
Being a player and mapper and even an old staff member I totally agree with this DQ. The EX EX diff looks cool in editor but well, it's full of unreadable and random spaced patterns. Map can be cool as much as you want but being a map for rank it must be playable as well. Actually, that diff is for nothing playable. I just can see random placed elements, with random and inconsistant spacing in the 95% of the map. Eww if the EX EX diff gets ranked in this status I guess every map with random spacing and placed elements should be ranked as well.

RikiH_ wrote:

Just passing by.
I'm quite a noob player, I need NF in order to pass EX EX diff, but I'd like to help.

I tried the map for the first time and this is the only pattern that I could not read. this challenges your reading skill exactly. what i've said "technically readble" is like if you have enough time or ability to react, you can find those notes and sliders are easy to be recognized clearly.

well, that's some kind of explanation from a mapping view, if you wanna some playing advise, my answer will be like this: look at every obj's app circle ONLY, and while playing, don't be too disturbed by other stuffs like another app circle/slider track/cursor itself, focus on when and where you should hit the current obj, force yourself do that when playing at every single moment. (thou that's really difficult to do if you don't have enough aiming or streaming skill.

01:04:631 (2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) -

I didn't read the whole topic, but I can't stand people who can't play the diff because they are not good at reading stuff and complain about it. If you follow the rhythm you don't have any problem at it.

I love this map, I hope it gets qualified again. It's a pity that boring, mainstream maps are getting qualified while creative maps like this don't.

I wish you the best thank you rikih :3

Karen wrote:

altho i need to put NF for passing the highest diff, i think there are no such unreadable patterns which were mentioned in the dq post, those patterns fit the music well in my point of view.
So here is the Rebubble

Karen wrote:

altho i need to put NF for passing the highest diff

Fycho wrote:

Random space streams

1. 02:13:717 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) –It’s creative, but it doesn’t have playability, and it doesn’t fit the music.

Krah wrote:

I don't get the idea of HP3 on EX EX and 4 on Irrelvis' EX.
There is basically nothing who justify it apart the fact that more guys will clear your diffs. To have this kind of settings on airman was clearly a mistake let's not do it again.

Krah wrote:

I don't get the idea of HP3 on EX EX and 4 on Irrelvis' EX.
There is basically nothing who justify it apart the fact that more guys will clear your diffs. To have this kind of settings on airman was clearly a mistake let's not do it again. i used to set lower hp to avoid what i'm afraid of, but i can totally agree with you now, changed EX EX's hp to 6, and Irrelvis' EX's hp to 7.