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ESTi - HELIX (Edit ver.) [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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Bearizm
Great concept and design. Love it, especially Oracle's diff and your EX diff as well (eventhough I really think yours don't play very well, it's still pretty cool). But I think there's a flaw in the spread.. Between Advanced and Insane. the gap's pretty big, considering there's several stream jumps in the "Insane". It needs another diff to compensate the huge gap. Just my opinion. and in fanzhen's diff, the end is just an unnecessarily huge difficulty spike. Kind of disappointed this is coming from fanzhen tbh but oh well I understand why he did it.

1 MORE THING.

fanzhen's diff has an different length of spinner in the end. others end at 02:18:517 - . his spinner ends at 02:19:888 - How did BNs miss this I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Good luck getting this ranked.
ktgster
Few notes.

[EX EX]
00:59:660 (1,2) -
01:04:631 (2,1) -


Basically, you cannot actually see the slider and due to the abundance of circles you play, you actually can't tell when there is a slider or not. It's very surprising to see on first play, and is just plain confusing to begin with.
Kayano

[ Madoka ] wrote:

fanzhen's diff has an different length of spinner in the end. others end at 02:18:517 - . his spinner ends at 02:19:888 - How did BNs miss this I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
Please learn more before you post here, QATs and BNs never restrict something like length or kiai IN GUEST DIFFS

Good luck HW
Bearizm

OniJAM wrote:

[ Madoka ] wrote:

fanzhen's diff has an different length of spinner in the end. others end at 02:18:517 - . his spinner ends at 02:19:888 - How did BNs miss this I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
Please learn more before you post here, QATs and BNs never restrict something like length or kiai IN GUEST DIFFS

Good luck HW
I just thought the other diffs has consistent length of spinner. And most of the difficulties here are GDs anyways, but they STILL follow the same length of spinner. It's something to be taken into consideration and I don't understand how no one pointed that out. It's a consistency problem.

EDIT: ACTUALLY, yes, they do. p/4086686

don't generalize like that. I mean, yes it's a GD but it's a GD in a MAPSET. They all should have the same length.
DeletedUser_3641262
Eh, may I ask the reasoning behind OD7 on EX EX diff? A difficulity at this level of play should have at least 8 imo, but I may be wrong, idk *~*
Lach

zivbu9 wrote:

Eh, may I ask the reasoning behind OD7 on EX EX diff? A difficulity at this level of play should have at least 8 imo, but I may be wrong, idk *~*
If the OD is too high some of the patterns become unreliable or excessively difficult to play. Normally for _hard map with jumps x dee_ od 8 or 9 is the go-to because it makes sense, but in this situation I would say it hinder the playability.

The real question is why hp3 lmao
Kodora

Kyubey wrote:

I'm not sure if that rule about delay works with such hitsounds like this. In one case, it's just an applause and shouldn't give any feedack. In other, rules are rules? And why is it .mp3 instead of .wav?
Actually 5ms is considered acceptable range for delay - .mp3 files often comes with it
Kyouren
BG is unrankable ;w;
Musty
HWs diff doesn't play well at least for me..
PatZar
EX EX E XEX EX EX EX lol
so hard
edit:
pray sepuh indo
xxxafiqxxx
Finnally ssed the overdose with HD
hope u wont update the map again
Natteke desu
no qualifino
btw, as far as i know animated avatars are not allowed by rules
Kyubey

Kodora wrote:

Kyubey wrote:

I'm not sure if that rule about delay works with such hitsounds like this. In one case, it's just an applause and shouldn't give any feedack. In other, rules are rules? And why is it .mp3 instead of .wav?
Actually 5ms is considered acceptable range for delay - .mp3 files often comes with it
But it's 50ms.
Lach

Kyubey wrote:

Kodora wrote:

Actually 5ms is considered acceptable range for delay - .mp3 files often comes with it
But it's 50ms.
Hitsounds can be categorized into two brackets. Active; provides feedback and aids with timing, and passive; just a sound that is there, not unlike the one used in this map with the large delay. It doesn't matter too much since it's the latter.
Xantaria
what the fuck? Spacing and slider velocity is wrong in almost every version.
Oracle
yayy!
Asphyxia
Hey Hollow Wings,

After internal discussion, need to disqualify this set for the following:

[General]

The spread from ZZH's Advanced to Yuki's Another is way too wide in its current state. ZZH's Advanced acts like a slightly harder hard, whereas Yuki's Another acts more like an Extra due to the massive amounts of 1/4 sliders. The difficulties themselves are well made, so it'd be the best if you would add a difficulty between them.

[EX EX]

There are a few instances where the flow could be much better and not hurt the playability as much as it does now. My personal advice for these patterns would be to either stack the two notes, or continue the zig-zag movement to avoid such counter-intuitive flow that the pattern have currently. Please ensure patterns have comfortable flow to them! Examples:
  1. 00:26:403 (1,2) -
  2. 00:26:575 (2,1) -
  3. 00:26:918 (2,1) -
  4. 00:27:260 (2,1) -

The slow SV makes several spots almost impossible to read properly; while the slider appears on the playfield (not yet being clicked), the next objects are appearing as well, and so it gets unreadable. The sliders should be distinguishable from the abundance of circles. Examples:
  1. 00:59:660 (1,2) -
  2. 01:04:631 (2,1) -
[Irrelvis' EX]

Generally, this difficulty has several patterns which could benefit from further revision, to improve their flow and fittingness.

  • The notes are sorted in groups of 3 in the music, while they are sorted in groups of 4 in the map.
  1. 00:27:431 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -

    Many patterns' movements don't fit rest of the map, making it feel unnecessarily forced or unfitting. Examples:
  2. 00:40:117 (2,3,4,5) -
  3. 01:11:488 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2) -
  4. 02:10:288 (6,7) -
  5. 02:11:660 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
----

Please keep in mind that the above listed examples are just examples for the mentioned issues so that this generally applies to more than just these mentioned ones. In addition to all that, we highly recommend you to make the final spinner consistent in fanzhen's EX. Feels weird that it's the only difficulty that has a spinner spinner length among the other difficulties.

Good luck with the re-qualification!

###DM
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Hollow Wings
ok, thank you Asphyxia, i can accept this result.

anyone wanna mod this map, do as your wish.
Natteke desu

Asphyxia wrote:

[Irrelvis' EX]

Generally, this difficulty has several patterns which could benefit from further revision, to improve their flow and fittingness.

The notes are sorted in groups of 3 in the music, while they are sorted in groups of 4 in the map.
00:27:431 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
okay

Many patterns' movements don't fit rest of the map, making it feel unnecessarily forced or unfitting. Examples:
00:40:117 (2,3,4,5) -
Can i get an explanation? I don't see anything unfitting or forced there and i won't use 1/2 because in my opinion it gives not enough "speed" feeling when music is intense and since it's an extra diff i don't see anything what can cause problems
01:11:488 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2) -
And again, i can't agree with that because it goes well with the song in my opinion, but oh well i changed it a bit anyways
02:10:288 (6,7) -
changed it a bit as well
also i added some ncs and deleted one beat, thanks
HO
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_derp
unranked ;o
Orinoshi
But... What's wrong with spectator's map :( sad that it goes unranked too :(
Kyouren
I wish i can make Light Another ;w; :(
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings

Asphyxia wrote:

Hey Hollow Wings,

After internal discussion, need to disqualify this set for the following:

[General]

The spread from ZZH's Advanced to Yuki's Another is way too wide in its current state. ZZH's Advanced acts like a slightly harder hard, whereas Yuki's Another acts more like an Extra due to the massive amounts of 1/4 sliders. The difficulties themselves are well made, so it'd be the best if you would add a difficulty between them. alright, will add new diff.

[EX EX]

There are a few instances where the flow could be much better and not hurt the playability as much as it does now. My personal advice for these patterns would be to either stack the two notes, or continue the zig-zag movement to avoid such counter-intuitive flow that the pattern have currently. Please ensure patterns have comfortable flow to them! Examples:no change here for the pattern's designed like this. further more it can emphasis different tracks in stack-bigjump way better than just give simple zig-zag jumps without any changes.
  1. 00:26:403 (1,2) -
  2. 00:26:575 (2,1) -
  3. 00:26:918 (2,1) -
  4. 00:27:260 (2,1) -

The slow SV makes several spots almost impossible to read properly; while the slider appears on the playfield (not yet being clicked), the next objects are appearing as well, and so it gets unreadable. The sliders should be distinguishable from the abundance of circles. Examples: i didn't overlap any slider's track, you can clearly read the slider without any trouble because it appears completely. but well i can give compromise to this point because the sliders' really too short. expend sliders like this, checked the whole diff and fixed the rest as well.
  1. 00:59:660 (1,2) -
  2. 01:04:631 (2,1) -
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Please keep in mind that the above listed examples are just examples for the mentioned issues so that this generally applies to more than just these mentioned ones. In addition to all that, we highly recommend you to make the final spinner consistent in fanzhen's EX. Feels weird that it's the only difficulty that has a spinner spinner length among the other difficulties. agree with those example talking thou, idk if i've fixed everything inappropriate.
fixed fanzhen's EX's length differences.
fixed hs file issue thou i don't think that's an issue because hs is made for tapping feedback, which that hs won't do that anyway. also converted format into .wav because i don't wanna get into trouble with so called doubts of reason from nowhere.


Good luck with the re-qualification!
thx for modding!
ziin

gokugohan12468 wrote:

BG is unrankable ;w;
background is fine.
Background images must be at a maximum of 1024x768 pixels for 4:3, 1366x768 pixels for 16:9. Although 1366x768 (16:9) is recommended, most background ratios that are 4:3 or 16:9 should also work reasonably well (for example, 800x600 or 852x480). Using an image with a different ratio is fine, but will result in letterboxing (black bars at the top/bottom of the screen) or upscaling (resized image to fill the whole screen).
Crystal
[Hyper]
00:32:060 (1,2) - Swap NC?
01:03:088 (1) - 这边节奏好像没什么不一样 为什么不像其他的一样弄成1/2啊
01:21:431 (4,5,6,7) - 打哭了OVQ 考虑4 5不要stack?


好像没了 no kd if it is not worth that
liangv587
[Hyper]
00:10:631 (4) - 怎么不叠尾巴
00:25:374 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉这组可以分开,00:26:746 (1,2,3,4) - 这组也是
00:30:174 (1,2,3,4) - 这个梗略难,由于太神,也不知道怎么弄简单些,大概不要完全遮住吧
01:21:431 (4,5,6,7) - 容易造成误读,01:18:688 (4,5,6) - 就模仿这里吧?
02:12:688 (4,1,2) - 这样试试http://puu.sh/hAZdA.jpg
简直不要太水
Irreversible

Orinoshi wrote:

But... What's wrong with spectator's map :( sad that it goes unranked too :(
It's not possible to unrank specific diffs, that's why everything has to be pulled out of the qualified section.


Asphyxia wrote:

Hey Hollow Wings + Irreversible + EvilElvis,

[Irrelvis' EX]

Generally, this difficulty has several patterns which could benefit from further revision, to improve their flow and fittingness.

  • The notes are sorted in groups of 3 in the music, while they are sorted in groups of 4 in the map.
  1. 00:27:431 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -

    Many patterns' movements don't fit rest of the map, making it feel unnecessarily forced or unfitting. Examples:
  2. 00:40:117 (2,3,4,5) -
  3. 01:11:488 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2) - Adjusted the spacing. Elvis, that's my part baka xD
  4. 02:10:288 (6,7) -
  5. 02:11:660 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Yeah, agreeing that this wasn't optimal. I replaced those with fast sliders, since it seems like a good finish-off to the kiai to me.
I've sent the diff to HW ingame.
Kite
Had a quick look through on the new Hyper difficulty in IRC

SPOILER
13:53 Kite: nooooooooooooooooo
13:53 Kite: your map disqualified ;_;
13:54 Kite: they really want you to make another difficulty?..
13:54 Hollow Wings: lol
13:54 Hollow Wings: do you have time to mod the new diff?
13:54 Kite: i can irc mod
13:54 Hollow Wings: yeah it's already done and seeking mod now
13:54 Hollow Wings: sure
13:54 Kite: but 2 lazy for forum
13:54 Kite: brb
13:54 Hollow Wings: :3
13:55 Kite: Hyper?
14:02 Kite: stop crashing
14:02 Kite: !
14:02 Hollow Wings: ;w;
14:03 Kite: 00:12:003 (2,4) - these overlaps seem random and ugly to me D: i think if you placed 2 on the slidertick of 3 it would look a lot better and had some reasoning
14:03 Kite: 4 can be on slidertick of 1 i guess
14:04 Kite: x158 y185
14:04 Kite: 157 186*
14:05 Hollow Wings: i moved 2 to 200,222
14:05 Hollow Wings: and 4 to 281,224
14:05 Hollow Wings: to avoid overlap
14:05 Hollow Wings: i thnk it'll be fine now :3
14:06 Kite: 00:30:174 (1,2,3,4) - move these to the right? helps for readability
14:07 Hollow Wings: hmm... it's a bit hard to read thou, it's ok to keep imo 0.0
14:08 Kite: you have 3 combos in a row overlapping here
14:08 Kite: =/
14:08 Kite: but your choice :P
14:08 Hollow Wings: lol i've done patterns like that in lots of my maps :P
14:10 Kite: 00:55:031 (2) - x316 y191 flow from previous stream
14:10 Kite: but guess it kills your next pattern a bit
14:10 Kite: =/
14:11 Hollow Wings: hmm already locked organization at 00:55:031 (2,2,2) -
14:11 Hollow Wings: lol yeah, i consider flow really less :P
14:13 Kite: 01:04:888 (5) - feels more pleasant to play when you remove this here (I know it's in the music)
14:14 Hollow Wings: ok, but i'll remove 01:05:403 (10) - as well
14:15 Kite: o01:27:774 (1) - love this part
14:16 Kite: reminds me of the song sin
14:16 Hollow Wings: lol, sin's created by esti as well www
14:16 Kite: yea
14:16 Kite: map it
14:16 Kite: please
14:16 Kite: sin the last scene
14:16 Kite: ;_;
14:16 Kite: 01:37:374 (1) - could probably improve the shape a bit if you want
14:17 Hollow Wings: orz need to finish this map 1st :P
14:17 Hollow Wings: see dat slider's control point xP
14:17 Kite: yeah but it looks kinda odd
14:18 Kite: and stream goes downward
14:18 Kite: slider starts going upward
14:18 Hollow Wings: HAHA well... that's done on some kind of purpose orz
14:18 Hollow Wings: naughty
14:19 Hollow Wings: yeah there's really sudden break in the song so i wanna give anti-flow to emphasis that
14:20 Kite: 01:37:374 (1) -
14:20 Kite: with 0.5 sv section
14:20 Kite: would be
14:20 Kite: better for anti flow
14:20 Kite: stream fast -> slider slow
14:20 Kite: idk
14:20 Kite: ;_;
14:22 Kite: rest seems all good to me
14:22 Hollow Wings: tried 0.5x version and both of them seems ok to me
14:22 Hollow Wings: so i choose keep here
14:22 Hollow Wings: good <3
14:22 Kite: sry noob mod
14:22 Hollow Wings: post log to thread then www
14:23 Hollow Wings: nope lol you still pointed out somewhere i changed
14:23 Hollow Wings: you know that's not easy to let me change something XP
14:25 Kite: oh wow
14:25 Kite: i
14:25 Kite: didnt link the screenshot
14:25 Kite: before
14:26 Hollow Wings: what screenshot
14:26 Kite: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3089053
14:26 Kite: it didnt copy
14:26 Kite: with the 0,5sv section thingy
14:26 Hollow Wings: hmm alright let me try yours :3
14:27 Kite: sorry didnt notice earlier
14:27 Hollow Wings: lol that's ok :3
14:28 Hollow Wings: alright used 0.5sv now
14:28 Hollow Wings: but sldier's shape's not same to your version :3
zyoi
[Hyper]
01:05:831 (1) - 這條綠線我覺得不需要
01:18:688 (4) - 尾clap,01:19:203 (6) - 頭clap
01:21:431 (4) - ^ ,01:21:946 (7) - ^
01:24:174 (4) - ^ ,01:24:688 (6) - ^
01:27:088 (5) - 頭clap
01:27:431 (6) - ^
00:24:688 (1,3) - 00:25:374 (1,3) - 1的clap去掉 3+上去 聽起來比較均勻..
00:33:946 (3) - 00:36:689 (3) - 00:39:432 (3) - 加clap,
01:03:088 (1) - 滑條中間和尾加個clap
02:10:974 (1) - 這裡加個slidertick什麼的吧

有些空拍聽起來好奇怪唉

抄罰抄嘍:o
Streliteela
papapapapapapapa

[Hyper]
00:14:574 (2,1) - blanket,强迫症看着这地方有点难受
00:40:460 (1,2,3,4) - 总感觉1->4->3->2顺手一些
00:48:688 (1,2) - 看着和打着都觉得不太舒服,试试这样?
00:51:431 (1,2,1) - 这里也是,感觉挺别手,这样试试?
00:55:546 (1,2,3) - 打起来有点别扭,但为了pattern的话你就留着这个吧。但不得不说,这个pattern打起来的效果真的不是很舒服
01:40:803 (3) - blanket,我知道你故意的

嗯后面挺好,加油吧~
超级大水摸orz
smallboat
幾天沒摸圖了來賺個分數

[Hyper]
01:04:631 (2,3,4,5,6) - Compare with Yuki's Another rhythm,seems a bit hard here (5 notes),also can change here (3 notes + 1 1/2 slider? )
01:21:860 (6) - Compare with the same part also can remove this note here.
01:36:688 (1) - Same as first suggestion,also can use this rhythm : 咦 ZZH這邊怎會是1/6 是1/4啊
02:00:003 (5) - Feel this combo so long by QAT viewpoint,add NC?
02:02:575 (8,1) - Feel this flow so bad imo
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings

Crystal wrote:

[Hyper]
00:32:060 (1,2) - Swap NC? better indeed, changed.
01:03:088 (1) - 这边节奏好像没什么不一样 为什么不像其他的一样弄成1/2啊 因为感觉,无它。
01:21:431 (4,5,6,7) - 打哭了OVQ 考虑4 5不要stack? 嗯好,分出来了。


好像没了 no kd if it is not worth that

liangv587 wrote:

[Hyper]
00:10:631 (4) - 怎么不叠尾巴 叠尾巴不好。
00:25:374 (1,2,3,4) - 感觉这组可以分开,00:26:746 (1,2,3,4) - 这组也是 这边还是简单一些都stack好了。
00:30:174 (1,2,3,4) - 这个梗略难,由于太神,也不知道怎么弄简单些,大概不要完全遮住吧 这真心不想改。
01:21:431 (4,5,6,7) - 容易造成误读,01:18:688 (4,5,6) - 就模仿这里吧? 改掉了已经。
02:12:688 (4,1,2) - 这样试试http://puu.sh/hAZdA.jpg 那个note和slider的跳没必要那么大柑橘。
简直不要太水

- E n j u - wrote:

[Hyper]
01:05:831 (1) - 這條綠線我覺得不需要 这边还是小小的调整一下hs比较好。
01:18:688 (4) - 尾clap,01:19:203 (6) - 頭clap 这边的clap我就加了3拍的部分。
01:21:431 (4) - ^ ,01:21:946 (7) - ^
01:24:174 (4) - ^ ,01:24:688 (6) - ^
01:27:088 (5) - 頭clap
01:27:431 (6) - ^
00:24:688 (1,3) - 00:25:374 (1,3) - 1的clap去掉 3+上去 聽起來比較均勻.. 这里的clap加了是为了合主旋律的。
00:33:946 (3) - 00:36:689 (3) - 00:39:432 (3) - 加clap,fixed.
01:03:088 (1) - 滑條中間和尾加個clap 就加了尾的。
02:10:974 (1) - 這裡加個slidertick什麼的吧 算了啦。

有些空拍聽起來好奇怪唉 噗。

抄罰抄嘍:o

Streliteela wrote:

papapapapapapapa

[Hyper]
00:14:574 (2,1) - blanket,强迫症看着这地方有点难受 这里不blanket。
00:40:460 (1,2,3,4) - 总感觉1->4->3->2顺手一些 行。
00:48:688 (1,2) - 看着和打着都觉得不太舒服,试试这样?其实一样的,就这样吧。
00:51:431 (1,2,1) - 这里也是,感觉挺别手,这样试试? 要的就是大跳+anti-flow。
00:55:546 (1,2,3) - 打起来有点别扭,但为了pattern的话你就留着这个吧。但不得不说,这个pattern打起来的效果真的不是很舒服 学反震,摆形状,裱flow。
01:40:803 (3) - blanket,我知道你故意的 罪恶感油然而生。

嗯后面挺好,加油吧~
超级大水摸orz

smallboat wrote:

[Hyper]
01:04:631 (2,3,4,5,6) - Compare with Yuki's Another rhythm,seems a bit hard here (5 notes),also can change here (3 notes + 1 1/2 slider? ) yeah already changed.
01:21:860 (6) - Compare with the same part also can remove this note here. nope for wanna follow that special track.
01:36:688 (1) - Same as first suggestion,also can use this rhythm : actually current version's easier than yours, thou still good suggestion. 咦 ZZH這邊怎會是1/6 是1/4啊 zzb也是笨蛋噗。
02:00:003 (5) - Feel this combo so long by QAT viewpoint,add NC? ok.
02:02:575 (8,1) - Feel this flow so bad imo anti-flow's fine here imo.
thx for modding!
P A N
[Hyper]
  1. 00:08:231 (1,3) - considering the spacing you use before on 00:02:745 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) or whatever, I feel like change SV on both slider to 0.75x is more fit. I tried playing it and yea, I feel like slider is a bit too fast compared to my cursor's movement on the beginning.
  2. 00:14:403 (1,1 and go on) - I tried to think but tbh, I can't think the reason to NC such here, it would ruin the drain imo. but if you really consider to do it this way, what about NC on 00:29:488 (5)
  3. 01:03:088 - I know what you are following here but here is another option, http://puu.sh/hBdvK/a5192b91d6.jpg
    because compared this one long reverse slider to the rest, it's weird, it's like... too easy. but up to you tho, it fit well but just too easy to me.
yea, the rest is good. that's all for me, good luck with re-qualified :3
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings

P A N wrote:

[Hyper]
  1. 00:08:231 (1,3) - considering the spacing you use before on 00:02:745 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) or whatever, I feel like change SV on both slider to 0.75x is more fit. I tried playing it and yea, I feel like slider is a bit too fast compared to my cursor's movement on the beginning. ok, changed sv into 0.75x.
  2. 00:14:403 (1,1 and go on) - I tried to think but tbh, I can't think the reason to NC such here, it would ruin the drain imo. but if you really consider to do it this way, what about NC on 00:29:488 (5) fixed nc issue at later part.
  3. 01:03:088 - I know what you are following here but here is another option, http://puu.sh/hBdvK/a5192b91d6.jpg
    because compared this one long reverse slider to the rest, it's weird, it's like... too easy. but up to you tho, it fit well but just too easy to me. for others also mentioned this, changed. and totally agree with your idea about rhythm, really awesome job :3
yea, the rest is good. that's all for me, good luck with re-qualified :3 P A N, i wanna say these to you here: after so long time i still think you are a really great modder to me.
thx for modding!
P A N

Hollow Wings wrote:

yea, the rest is good. that's all for me, good luck with re-qualified :3 P A N, i wanna say these to you here: after so long time i still think you are a really great modder to me.
<3
Rizia
[yuki, oracle,]
00:10:974 (1) - 1/6

看看是不是1/6
Topic Starter
Hollow Wings

Kawaiwkyik wrote:

[yuki, oracle,]
00:10:974 (1) - 1/6 chenked and fixed.

看看是不是1/6
Rizia
rebubble
Karen
Placeholder for requalify tmr

Re-Qualified~!
Spectator
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