Better get aim and speed
i can still get an A on an OD9 map with an offset of like +/- 20
it doesnt matter
get better accuracy
what does me getting D's have to do with anything I said?Hypocrite
yeah dude,that just means you cant play accurate for shit. i played with an offset of 50 for 3 minutes and noticed i was completely off,because I somewhat have accuracy. honestly your shitposting is so god damn retarded,you literally whore for attention everywhere. your word your advice like you are one of the best players,even though you are,and my excuses to other players of similiar skill to you who arent dicks,shit. i am shit too by the way,yet i try to give advice from a different point,which is my own and not acting like a top 50 hdhr god (in this case). and after even trying,you had to include "i can get an A on this and that blabla" for whatever reason. as dexus said it:Riince wrote:
perhaps im doing it wrong if the offset doesnt change how i play. i remember setting my offset to like +60 once to fuck around in a multiplayer game with a friend on a really weird bad map to see what would happen and i forgot about it for a week and didnt even notice it and my accuracy pretty much didn't change that whole time.
now that im done ranting over you,here's some advice that is the best for getting better accuracy:Dexus wrote:
i can still get an A on an OD9 map with an offset of like +/- 20
it doesnt matter
get better accuracywhat does me getting D's have to do with anything I said?Hypocrite
that makes more sense, your original wording made it sounds quite to the contrary, but as you're german that's fine. Thanks for clarifying.f i z i k wrote:
I am trying to say you behave like you are on of the best players. It's god damn annoying to see you giving advice on things you aren't even doing well as if you are doing them well. Does that make it clear?
Then allow me to be more clear and less verbose on behalf of my fellow posters. If you're playing to the rhythm and using proper hitsounds, changing your universal offset makes a world of difference whether you realize it or not, end of story.Riince wrote:
Apologies, now it's my turn to be more clear and hopefully less verbose
How is it misleading? You mean, the usage of local offsets is bad and makes the player bad? Why would it even exist then?Riince wrote:
do you see it now? this thread doesn't offer new or interesting information to those who can use it properly, and can only serve to mislead those still learning to be accurate players. That is a BAD thing.
Offset improves accuracy if set to fit your needs, be it "correct" or not. I don't consider myself a very accurate player (at least not anymore because I don't play this game for over a year now), but on almost all OD9+ maps I played, I used a local offset. Local offset is there to be used, and not to be ignored and "be a better player" without it.Riince wrote:
It's been stated before me that offset does not improve accuracy, to which examples such as "Well if you can feel 5ms or less difference".
There are these magical things called ears. People experienced in timing will notice it by ear, even if watching auto. You don't need insane playing abilities to be able to tell a map is wrongly timed.Riince wrote:
And what I mean by that is, noone can be absolutely sure a song is mistimed unless they can accurately play hard to read, slow, and fast maps all at once and already have a double digit unstable rate.
Even if it is placebo, if you get higher accuracy, why not do it?Riince wrote:
And this thread does nothing but give a placebo effect, as i've stated in the post i made before my previous one.
Not to nitpick, but it would actually be easier to tell watching auto.lolcubes wrote:
even if watching auto
Also, going slightly OT a bit here, the reason older players have much better accuracy than new ones is not only the playcount or practice, it's the maps themselves. Today you mostly see maps with OD7 and 2:1 slider to hitcircle ratio. Your accuracy will always be bad if you play maps like that. Back in the days, you had maps which have 4:1 circle to slider ratio with high OD, and those are the good maps to play to train on(djpop or soulfear maps for example).djpop = god
I can tell difference by those tiny milliseconds, because it DOES matter.nooblet wrote:
Sorry, but judging from your page you're clearly an SS player but like he said, those are all low OD songs. Have you tried anything OD9, or even 10? A 300 can easily become a 100 or even 50 with high OD, so how do you cope with that? Maybe some will land in the 300 range, but sorry I still kinda doubt you have enough experience with accuracy to write a guide for others. Frankly, it's a bit misleading and only your own method.
No offence, and I may be wrong, but I kinda doubt you can tell the difference between 10ms yet while you're playing (not saying I can, but some of the people who have posted can easily tell 5ms). Actually 10ms shouldn't even make a difference on the maps you're submitting scores on. If you could tell, you wouldn't need to rely on the hit error bar this much; you would be able to hear that you're early or late. The bar is just there for confirmation or checking parts that might be timed wrong or have irregularities.
Try some OD 9+ on maps that are time well, and you'll realize offset won't always save you.
Actually accuracy is more important than them.Martell wrote:
Better get aim and speed
Well, Riince is right in this case. You're not an accurate player, how are you supposed to guide them on accuracy?Riince wrote:
what does me getting D's have to do with anything I said? I know your posts well enough that you never actually read anything you try to reply to, but try a little harder.Dexus wrote:
OH you changed your name, I was wondering who the hell you were. I knew your shitposting was familiar. Why do you still get D ranks then?
You really don't get it.Riince wrote:
calling this thread "Getting Higher Accuracy" would be like making a thread called "Get Better Aim" where he tells you to buy a tablet and has a picture of cookiezi. It's a placebo as far as I see it and makes it seem like this is an alternative to practicing which is certainly the impression some people, especially new people wanting to get better are going to see it as. This is not what should be happening, this thread is not something that should be. Surely you can see that. Having everyone fiddling with their offset with a 200 unstable rate is pointless. It's like I've said, you're going to hit later or earlier in a song at different times for a variety of reasons. If the song is too fast you'll hit late if it's really slow or is hard to read, you're more likely to hit early. So just because the error meter is more on one side than the other doesn't indicate a mistimed song.
if someone can play fast maps and slow maps to absolute perfection and feel the difference 5 MS makes, they definitely know what offset is already and this thread is worthless to them. Nor would they even click bother clicking a thread titled "Getting Higher Accuracy" to get advice on it.
dont see what that has to do with me getting D's. At all. Unless getting a low A on OD9 makes me seem like im bragging but trust me i know its not bragworthy. i just brought it up because od9 seems like it would be quite affected by a +/- 20 offset but if you're listening to hitsound interval properly [i.e playing accurately] it really doesnt matter.
perhaps im doing it wrong if the offset doesnt change how i play. i remember setting my offset to like +60 once to fuck around in a multiplayer game with a friend on a really weird bad map to see what would happen and i forgot about it for a week and didnt even notice it and my accuracy pretty much didn't change that whole time.
maybe im doing it wrong. maybe thats not how you you're supposed to play by eye and hitsounds, maybe i should play with hidden and hitsounds turned off, because thats the only way I can see offset making such an impact on my accuracy.
i and everyone else who needs better accuracy, needs to play more. That's all there is to it.
this post was way too long but i needed to really put my 3 cents in.
nedia wrote:
hey op can you post a picture of your unstable rate so we can see how good your accuracy actually is
hey this is actually fairly meh lol, like very common, not something I'd expect from someone who can hear innacuracies to the millisecond :^)Kousaka Tenshi wrote:
OD 7 map
I'm not one of the top players at accuracy but I can say that I'm far more accurate than many playersGoldenWolf wrote:
nvm he got the pentahey this is actually fairly meh lol, like very common, not something I'd expect from someone who can hear innacuracies to the millisecond :^)Kousaka Tenshi wrote:
OD 7 map
Speed becomes irrelevant once you have enough for the map in question. Aim becomes irrelevant when you FC the map. Accuracy doesn't become relevant until both of those conditions are true. It is in no way more important than either aim or speed.Kousaka Tenshi wrote:
Actually accuracy is more important than them.
OD9NarrillNezzurh wrote:
Speed becomes irrelevant once you have enough for the map in question. Aim becomes irrelevant when you FC the map. Accuracy doesn't become relevant until both of those conditions are true. It is in no way more important than either aim or speed.Kousaka Tenshi wrote:
Actually accuracy is more important than them.
As for your own accuracy, you still haven't proven that you have any. I'll grant you that most of osu!'s player base isn't sitting at 100%, but remember that most of osu!'s playerbase is terrible at osu!. SSing a bunch of OD6 hards is a non-achievement.
I'm not really talking about you though. But those others who doesn't actually know what they are talking about and keep denying to that offset helps even if the song is timed correctly. I'm sure I can beat most Riince's score with higher accuracy if I tried enough.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
I won't speak for others, but I've never argued against proper offsets. Quite the contrary, I've argued for them, though I wouldn't advise for a new player to fiddle with them unless they're 100% sure something's wrong.
Obviously we look down on you because your top scores are normals/hards, normals and hards are easy. You should expect to be looked down on until you do something worthy of better, that's how being a new player works.
i don't think you can, and besides what do you even mean offset improves accuracy even if the song is timed correctly? that makes no sense to me.Kousaka Tenshi wrote:
I'm not really talking about you though. But those others who doesn't actually know what they are talking about and keep denying to that offset helps even if the song is timed correctly. I'm sure I can beat most Riince's score with higher accuracy if I tried enough.
If you actually cared to read what I wrote before trashposting, that would be good.Riince wrote:
i don't think you can, and besides what do you even mean offset improves accuracy even if the song is timed correctly?Kousaka Tenshi wrote:
I'm not really talking about you though. But those others who doesn't actually know what they are talking about and keep denying to that offset helps even if the song is timed correctly. I'm sure I can beat most Riince's score with higher accuracy if I tried enough.