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Moeri

Dexus wrote:

To get higher accuracy it's better to IGNORE the hit error bar (one less thing to look at/worry about while playing). Instead focus on what the hitsounds relate to in the music and time it in sync with them. Also fixing your UO takes priority over messing with LO. The only time you really need to mess with the LO is when the map is clearly and painfully out of sync; the couple ms inaccuracy are acceptable because windows itself fluctuates plus I don't think anyone can hit a stable -1/+1 every time they play. If you're seeing that on EVERY map you're playing that you hit early or late then it's commonly 2 things: 1) your UNIVERSAL offset is wrong 2) you're not listening to the music.

To fix your universal offset simply go download the offset wizard song by peppy and put these sounds into your skin [ http://puu.sh/9BkRs.zip ] Then go into the options and open up the offset wizard (Have the offset wizard song by peppy playing). Stop the music and raise the offset to +10 or +20 and then start it; every tick try and lower it by 1ms until the sound shifts to a deeper almost muted kind of sound. From there go further about 3ms and you should be fine. If you're uncertain about it you should be able to hit stop and then play, the metronome ticks should sound the same as before you stopped the music. I use -5ms on my laptop, -3ms on my desktop. Commonly I see computers be within this range.
I don't think ignoring hit error bar is a very good idea because it DOES work as it should and it's for you to diagnose(not sure how to spell) between your click timings and the actual song, rather than the beatmap itself, because it's the beatmap that's mostly not right.

And I'm not sure why but universal offset never really worked for me, I still get same delay even if I put -15ms comparing to put -15ms manually.
nrl

Lach wrote:

More like +/- 5. I've had quite a few maps changed online by 6-7ms in the past.
This work of art has an online offset of 15ms.
Vuelo Eluko

NarrillNezzurh wrote:

Lach wrote:

More like +/- 5. I've had quite a few maps changed online by 6-7ms in the past.
This map has an online offset of 15ms.
I believe "Map" is a rather exaggerated term for this.
nrl
You're right, edited.
Dexus
Its like you read the first sentence and ignored the rest of what I wrote.
lolcubes

Kousaka Tenshi wrote:

Any how, I already listed a few factors that affects your accuracy:
- Keyboard delay
- Song timed incorrectly
- Your skin's hitsound could have delays
You're missing the soundcard.
Some soundcards are really terrible for this game, USB soundcards have really weird response and my xonar has a pretty large input lag.
Rockmin

SupaWolfTiga wrote:

Mathsma wrote:

I wouldn't do it because I am lazy and there are simply too many songs to even bother.
Topic Starter
Moeri

Dexus wrote:

Its like you read the first sentence and ignored the rest of what I wrote.
No, I did not ignore the rest of what you wrote.
I just didn't want to comment on it because I didn't want to. Also, it seems that actually you ignored what I wrote. Universal offset does not work for everybody, and I'm one of them. Only way for me is to manually set offset if needed.

Sure, some people might think hit error bar is annoying, but let's be honest, there is even an option to resize it, how hard can it be?


And all the lazy people, you're most likely just trashposting.
Topic Starter
Moeri

pooptartsonas wrote:

I change my offset fairly often, but honestly I wouldn't recommend it unless you're consistent enough to know for sure that your misplaying is due to the song being mistimed, rather than your own inconsistency. If you're an accuracy player though, on OD10 it really does make quite the difference; I think you guys are underestimating how many maps are out there that are mistimed enough to actually affect play.
I know what you mean, if you have stable accuracy but still getting lots of 100s, then it's the offset/timing issue.
buny

Kousaka Tenshi wrote:

Dexus wrote:

Its like you read the first sentence and ignored the rest of what I wrote.
No, I did not ignore the rest of what you wrote.
I just didn't want to comment on it because I didn't want to. Also, it seems that actually you ignored what I wrote. Universal offset does not work for everybody, and I'm one of them. Only way for me is to manually set offset if needed.

Sure, some people might think hit error bar is annoying, but let's be honest, there is even an option to resize it, how hard can it be?


And all the lazy people, you're most likely just trashposting.
Honestly, you play low OD maps so even if the beat is off by 10ms, you are still easily in range to get a 300
Topic Starter
Moeri

buny wrote:

Honestly, you play low OD maps so even if the beat is off by 10ms, you are still easily in range to get a 300
Yes, but it does not change the fact that I see the accuracy balance isn't very close to the ideal balance(middle).
Dexus
In my post I show you how to set the offset correctly though.
nooblet

Kousaka Tenshi wrote:

buny wrote:

Honestly, you play low OD maps so even if the beat is off by 10ms, you are still easily in range to get a 300
Yes, but it does not change the fact that I see the accuracy balance isn't very close to the ideal balance(middle).
Sorry, but judging from your page you're clearly an SS player but like he said, those are all low OD songs. Have you tried anything OD9, or even 10? A 300 can easily become a 100 or even 50 with high OD, so how do you cope with that? Maybe some will land in the 300 range, but sorry I still kinda doubt you have enough experience with accuracy to write a guide for others. Frankly, it's a bit misleading and only your own method.

No offence, and I may be wrong, but I kinda doubt you can tell the difference between 10ms yet while you're playing (not saying I can, but some of the people who have posted can easily tell 5ms). Actually 10ms shouldn't even make a difference on the maps you're submitting scores on. If you could tell, you wouldn't need to rely on the hit error bar this much; you would be able to hear that you're early or late. The bar is just there for confirmation or checking parts that might be timed wrong or have irregularities.

Try some OD 9+ on maps that are time well, and you'll realize offset won't always save you.
Vuelo Eluko
i can still get an A on an OD9 map with an offset of like +/- 20
it doesnt matter
get better accuracy

you guys are so hung up on offset do you play without hitsounds? turn them on and focus on them like you're supposed to anyway.
Dexus
OH you changed your name, I was wondering who the hell you were. I knew your shitposting was familiar. Why do you still get D ranks then?
Vuelo Eluko

Dexus wrote:

OH you changed your name, I was wondering who the hell you were. I knew your shitposting was familiar. Why do you still get D ranks then?
what does me getting D's have to do with anything I said? I know your posts well enough that you never actually read anything you try to reply to, but try a little harder.
Martell
Better get aim and speed
Dexus
i can still get an A on an OD9 map with an offset of like +/- 20
it doesnt matter
get better accuracy
what does me getting D's have to do with anything I said?
Hypocrite
Vuelo Eluko
calling this thread "Getting Higher Accuracy" would be like making a thread called "Get Better Aim" where he tells you to buy a tablet and has a picture of cookiezi. It's a placebo as far as I see it and makes it seem like this is an alternative to practicing which is certainly the impression some people, especially new people wanting to get better are going to see it as. This is not what should be happening, this thread is not something that should be. Surely you can see that. Having everyone fiddling with their offset with a 200 unstable rate is pointless. It's like I've said, you're going to hit later or earlier in a song at different times for a variety of reasons. If the song is too fast you'll hit late if it's really slow or is hard to read, you're more likely to hit early. So just because the error meter is more on one side than the other doesn't indicate a mistimed song.

if someone can play fast maps and slow maps to absolute perfection and feel the difference 5 MS makes, they definitely know what offset is already and this thread is worthless to them. Nor would they even click bother clicking a thread titled "Getting Higher Accuracy" to get advice on it.

dont see what that has to do with me getting D's. At all. Unless getting a low A on OD9 makes me seem like im bragging but trust me i know its not bragworthy. i just brought it up because od9 seems like it would be quite affected by a +/- 20 offset but if you're listening to hitsound interval properly [i.e playing accurately] it really doesnt matter.

perhaps im doing it wrong if the offset doesnt change how i play. i remember setting my offset to like +60 once to fuck around in a multiplayer game with a friend on a really weird bad map to see what would happen and i forgot about it for a week and didnt even notice it and my accuracy pretty much didn't change that whole time.

maybe im doing it wrong. maybe thats not how you you're supposed to play by eye and hitsounds, maybe i should play with hidden and hitsounds turned off, because thats the only way I can see offset making such an impact on my accuracy.

i and everyone else who needs better accuracy, needs to play more. That's all there is to it.

this post was way too long but i needed to really put my 3 cents in.
f i z i k

Riince wrote:

perhaps im doing it wrong if the offset doesnt change how i play. i remember setting my offset to like +60 once to fuck around in a multiplayer game with a friend on a really weird bad map to see what would happen and i forgot about it for a week and didnt even notice it and my accuracy pretty much didn't change that whole time.
yeah dude,that just means you cant play accurate for shit. i played with an offset of 50 for 3 minutes and noticed i was completely off,because I somewhat have accuracy. honestly your shitposting is so god damn retarded,you literally whore for attention everywhere. your word your advice like you are one of the best players,even though you are,and my excuses to other players of similiar skill to you who arent dicks,shit. i am shit too by the way,yet i try to give advice from a different point,which is my own and not acting like a top 50 hdhr god (in this case). and after even trying,you had to include "i can get an A on this and that blabla" for whatever reason. as dexus said it:


Dexus wrote:

i can still get an A on an OD9 map with an offset of like +/- 20
it doesnt matter
get better accuracy
what does me getting D's have to do with anything I said?
Hypocrite
now that im done ranting over you,here's some advice that is the best for getting better accuracy:
1. dont fumble around offset unless you know what the fuck you are doing (so unless you are lewa just leave it at 0 unless it's so terribly off that you might want to buy a new soundcard)
2. i cant find the exact response anymore but it was literally like this: feel like fucking shit if you hit a 100. feel terrible,try harder to get a 300 next time. learn how rhythm works,understand music. play high OD so you can even feel more like shit so it gets better faster. one day it will make click and you get better accuracy,now grind away and every day youll get better
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