17:24 GoldenWolf: kokoratu
17:24 GoldenWolf: you can be #2 now
17:25 Okoratu: man im so lazy it's unbelievable
17:25 Okoratu: bsdflk;;kljasd;flk
17:25 GoldenWolf: plssssssss
17:26 GoldenWolf: I mean look at yui's mod
p/440997617:26 Okoratu: it uses the same hitsound as
17:26 Okoratu: the thing that got a dq for that one
17:26 Okoratu: did you fix that stuff already
17:26 Okoratu: or
17:26 GoldenWolf: they should be fixed
17:26 GoldenWolf: I changed the whole hitsounding like last week
17:27 GoldenWolf: if only one hitsound isn't to the rules I will eat my pen
17:27 GoldenWolf: tablet pen
17:28 Okoratu: will doublecheck everything
17:28 Okoratu: i think the only thing i found annoying when playing it was
17:28 GoldenWolf: please do so
17:28 Okoratu: that there's a part where streamspacing constantly decreases
17:28 Okoratu: but sv stays same
17:28 Okoratu: why ;;
17:28 GoldenWolf: where?
17:43 Okoratu: 02:50:523 -
17:44 GoldenWolf: want me to decrease the sv?
17:45 Okoratu: towards the end of streamspacing decrease the sliders started to feel like wooosh after the more compressed streams
17:45 Okoratu: is that the intended effect or
17:46 GoldenWolf: it's kind of a weird part because the guitar goes higher in pitch but the drum pattern is lighter
17:47 GoldenWolf: so I reduced the spacing but kept the same sv to give a jump feeling when going from one stream to another
17:47 Okoratu: ended up playing jerky to me but might just be me then?
17:47 GoldenWolf: I can just reduce the sv
17:47 Okoratu: 03:07:872 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - also these were hate
17:47 GoldenWolf: the spacing between two streams will stay the same, but the sliders will be shorter
17:48 Okoratu: ur a meanie
17:48 GoldenWolf: pls no hate
17:48 GoldenWolf: only love
17:48 GoldenWolf: so should I decrease the sv or
17:49 Okoratu: it's nothing that would stop me from bubbling but i think it'd be more playerfriendly that way
17:49 Okoratu: i didn't exactly test it so
17:50 GoldenWolf: okay gonna do that then
17:50 Okoratu: btw 00:52:421 (4,5) - is there a reason for that
17:51 GoldenWolf: mh not really
17:51 GoldenWolf: I think I was trying out various patterns and spacing stuff back then
17:52 Okoratu: 00:38:054 (7,8) - could have more space like
17:52 GoldenWolf: so other than 00:52:602 (5) - is a snare, no real reason
17:52 Okoratu: every other doublet thing
17:52 Okoratu: in the map
17:52 Okoratu: lol
17:52 GoldenWolf: but muh triangle
17:55 Okoratu: perfect triangles are overrated anyway
17:56 GoldenWolf: triangles are love, triangles are life
18:12 Okoratu: blah
18:12 Okoratu: is the sb still there
18:12 GoldenWolf: yeah
18:12 Okoratu: al;skdfj;laksdf
18:12 GoldenWolf: did you re-dl for it?
18:13 GoldenWolf: I also changed the background
18:13 Okoratu: idk
18:13 GoldenWolf: well replaced it with a better version of the same
18:13 Okoratu: xd
18:13 Okoratu: u still have the black.png so it doesn't matter
18:13 Okoratu: loool
18:14 GoldenWolf: what do you mean?
18:14 Okoratu: a file to make the bg black
18:14 GoldenWolf: I do but
18:14 GoldenWolf: why doesn't it matter?
18:14 Okoratu: because you don't even
18:14 Okoratu: need
18:14 Okoratu: it
18:15 Okoratu: and they started mentioning unoptimized sbing in dq reasons
18:15 GoldenWolf: well no one ever told me that ;_;
18:15 Okoratu: i'll
18:15 Okoratu: just take a bit and rewrite your sb code in a way that makes the file obsolete and still does the same
18:16 Okoratu: btw 01:05:433 (7,8,9) - why
18:17 GoldenWolf: idk
18:17 GoldenWolf: I'll make it a triangle instead
18:18 GoldenWolf: or a diamond
18:19 Okoratu: btw
18:19 Okoratu: do you have any idea how i could get the latest -45 album
18:19 Okoratu: ;__;
18:20 Okoratu: literally all the previews sound awesome
18:20 GoldenWolf: also tell me how to black out a bg with a file ;_;
18:20 GoldenWolf: -45 ?
18:20 Okoratu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT5mrUiFNxU18:22 GoldenWolf: ehhh idk, have you checked on what.cd or sth
18:22 Okoratu: wat
18:24 GoldenWolf: wat
18:24 Okoratu: idk how to search for that stuff
18:25 Okoratu: so im asking people if they know
18:25 Okoratu: all i found is a file with a terrible fadeout at around 3 mins
18:25 GoldenWolf: uhhh I usually just use google
18:25 GoldenWolf: or some private trackers
18:31 Okoratu: since your bg is not standard resolutions, i assume osu just
18:31 Okoratu: keeps height and stretches it to 1366?
18:34 GoldenWolf: I have no idea
18:39 Okoratu: lmao
18:45 Okoratu: figured it out
18:47 Okoratu: does
18:47 Okoratu:
http://puu.sh/jvcli/d7d4705836.txt18:47 Okoratu: still do the same as your old osb
18:47 Okoratu: without using the black file
18:47 Okoratu: can't compare because i forgot backup
18:48 Okoratu: ok
18:48 Okoratu: prolly not xD
18:48 GoldenWolf: prolly not?
18:48 Okoratu: bg
18:48 Okoratu: give me the times
18:48 Okoratu: where
18:48 Okoratu: it is not
18:48 Okoratu: visible at all
18:48 Okoratu: 02:34:439 -
18:48 Okoratu: to
18:48 Okoratu: ?
18:49 Okoratu: 02:44:740 -
18:49 Okoratu: i guess
18:49 GoldenWolf: yeah
18:49 Okoratu: any other section where that is the case
18:49 GoldenWolf: well
18:49 GoldenWolf:
http://puu.sh/jvctV/24ab7fb395.txt18:50 GoldenWolf: all the black.jpg
18:50 Okoratu: doesn't
18:50 Okoratu:
http://puu.sh/jvcws/27dfd95153.png18:50 Okoratu: trigger it off for ever
18:50 Okoratu: i mean the 2nd line
18:50 GoldenWolf: wtf
18:50 GoldenWolf: uh no
18:51 GoldenWolf: it goes off at 00:12:482 -
18:51 GoldenWolf: where it's supposed to
18:52 Okoratu: are there any other sections with completel black bg
18:52 Okoratu: except the one i just mentioned
18:53 GoldenWolf: well
18:53 GoldenWolf: 01:45:643 - to 01:47:632 -
18:53 GoldenWolf: but it doesn't go black instantly, but gradually
18:54 GoldenWolf: like
18:54 GoldenWolf: 01:45:553 - from there to 01:45:643 - there
18:54 GoldenWolf: uhh
18:54 GoldenWolf: wouldn't it be more simple for you to check the .txt with the black.jpg thingy
18:55 Okoratu: i dunno how to compare these as i can't just test both at once
18:55 Okoratu: --
18:56 GoldenWolf: ehhh
18:56 GoldenWolf: well
18:57 Okoratu: well imma check this by just renaming the files like mad
18:57 Okoratu: whenever i want to compare what they do
18:57 Okoratu: lol
18:57 GoldenWolf: gonna go eat now, so uhm, I'll check after
18:57 GoldenWolf: k
19:14 Okoratu: ok
19:14 Okoratu: i think i figured that out
19:15 Okoratu:
http://puu.sh/jvdSx/45680a1357.txt19:33 GoldenWolf: > V,0,-519,355221,0.6671875,0.625
19:33 GoldenWolf: what's this line for?
19:33 Okoratu: scaling the background to a 16:9 format
19:33 Okoratu: height gets scaled by 0.625
19:42 GoldenWolf: okay perfect
19:42 GoldenWolf: guess I'll use that now
19:42 GoldenWolf: anything else?
19:43 Okoratu: delete the black file
19:43 Okoratu: im in a trounamentt XDD
19:43 GoldenWolf: already done
19:43 GoldenWolf: wtfff
19:43 Okoratu: They
19:43 Okoratu: put
19:43 Okoratu: my
19:43 Okoratu: pizza rolls diff
19:44 Okoratu: in the fucking mappool
19:44 Okoratu: i want to die
19:44 GoldenWolf: oh that one
19:44 Okoratu: yes that one
19:44 Okoratu: AND THEN VINXIS PICKS IT
19:44 Okoratu: AND SWAPS WITH ME
19:44 GoldenWolf: the meme lord
19:44 Okoratu: "here play your regrets"
19:49 Okoratu:
http://puu.sh/jvfPP/29409810ec.txt19:50 GoldenWolf: what the fuck
19:50 GoldenWolf: is going on
19:51 Okoratu: i said that i should have asked nozhomi to delete the pizza rolls set
19:51 Okoratu: last year
19:51 Okoratu: delete it now
19:51 Okoratu: btw your name means eye of rat
19:51 Okoratu: in whatever language
19:51 Okoratu: ok then fuck you too
19:52 GoldenWolf: w-what
19:52 GoldenWolf: s-so
19:52 GoldenWolf: w-well
19:52 GoldenWolf: c-can I update the map now
19:52 Okoratu: they were pissing me off by being rude about me in general
19:52 Okoratu: our opponents, that is
19:53 Okoratu: do you have any idea
19:53 Okoratu: why i get
19:53 *Okoratu is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/539811 nao - Rave:tech(^_^)New;world]
19:53 Okoratu: when searching demetori
19:54 GoldenWolf: it's in the tags
19:54 GoldenWolf: does the song have a guitar solo
19:54 Okoratu: i think
19:54 Okoratu: it does
19:54 Okoratu: but anyway
19:55 Okoratu: i'd be a lot happier if 03:07:872 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - wasn't such a combobreaker
19:55 Okoratu: idk
19:56 GoldenWolf: mh
19:56 GoldenWolf: I got the hang of that pattern since
19:56 GoldenWolf: and I don't break on it anymore
19:56 GoldenWolf: so idk
19:56 GoldenWolf: it used to feel weird
19:56 GoldenWolf: but not anymore now
19:56 Okoratu: if you're playing it the first time
19:56 Okoratu: what would you expect the pattern to feel like
19:56 Okoratu: i think people are gonna hate that but w/e
19:56 Okoratu: 02:52:601 -
19:57 Okoratu: cant dis have whistle
19:57 Okoratu: sss
19:57 GoldenWolf: ssss
19:57 GoldenWolf: can't
19:57 GoldenWolf: because there is a snare there
19:57 Okoratu: ik
19:57 Okoratu: so it cant
19:57 GoldenWolf: 03:07:872 (1) - what exactly breaks the combo there
19:58 Okoratu: cuz everything else seems to have whistle
19:58 GoldenWolf: I'm okay to fix anything but I need to know where the poop is hitting the fan
19:58 Okoratu: if yo uassume most people play 1/4 sliders like circles
19:58 Okoratu: this suddenly is a whole lot easier to fuck up on
19:59 GoldenWolf: it is more spaved
19:59 GoldenWolf: spaced
20:00 GoldenWolf: mhhh
20:00 Okoratu: it is, indeed but compared to 03:12:209 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
20:00 Okoratu: it's like
20:00 Okoratu: 100% linear
20:00 GoldenWolf: so
20:00 GoldenWolf: more back n forth stuff?
20:01 Okoratu: dunno, i think backnforth is probably much easier to comprehend with all the triangles you have going on everywhere anyway
20:01 Okoratu: s
20:01 GoldenWolf: mh
20:01 Okoratu: like most of the map isn't that linear at all
20:02 GoldenWolf: I'll try to find a way to rearrange that pattern
20:02 Okoratu: the end is super cool
20:03 Okoratu: somehow looks like the map was made in 2 sessions with a break inbetween though
20:03 Okoratu: idk why
20:03 GoldenWolf: lol yes
20:03 GoldenWolf: there is before and after solo
20:03 Okoratu: first part is like im testing out patterns or something
20:03 Okoratu: and 2nd part is likemore defined idk
20:04 Okoratu: both are ok for rank etc but that's wat it looked like to me
20:04 GoldenWolf: there is a 7 months break between the two
20:04 GoldenWolf: that's probably accurate
20:04 Okoratu: so that is actually accurate
20:04 Okoratu: loool
20:05 GoldenWolf: I like the first part for what it is though, it has a quite unique signature
20:05 GoldenWolf: hence why I didn't remap it
20:05 Okoratu: yes it does
20:05 Okoratu: im not gonna remap one of my collab parts on symmetric rose from half a year ago for that reason
20:07 GoldenWolf:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/351035020:10 Okoratu: btw
20:10 Okoratu: the way to avoid using black images
20:10 Okoratu: is literally making the background a storyboard object
20:11 Okoratu: and then fading it up and down
20:11 Okoratu: the other way around as with the black images
20:11 GoldenWolf: I see
20:12 GoldenWolf: and it decreases the sb load?
20:12 Okoratu: u need one image less
20:12 Okoratu: and the parts that are black by default
20:12 Okoratu: are 0.0x load
20:12 GoldenWolf: o
20:12 GoldenWolf: nice
20:12 Okoratu: instead of 2.66
20:12 Okoratu: so yes it reduces load lol
20:12 GoldenWolf: 2.66 load for a simple black image tho
20:12 Okoratu: nah
20:13 Okoratu: one full screen image is 1.33x load
20:13 Okoratu: and the bg is 1.33x as well
20:13 GoldenWolf: wtf
20:13 Okoratu: by fading the bg out osu doesn't have to load the black image
20:13 Okoratu: and the bg
20:13 GoldenWolf: o
20:13 Okoratu: actually saving the load of 2 full screen images
20:13 GoldenWolf: optimisation nice
20:14 Okoratu: did yui check the hitsounds
20:14 Okoratu: because i kinda want to lazy
20:14 GoldenWolf: I don't think he did
20:15 Okoratu: MMMAN
20:15 GoldenWolf: well he checked the ingame stuff
20:15 GoldenWolf: but not if each file had no extra ms at beginning n stuff
20:21 Okoratu: update the map again
20:21 Okoratu: i just redl'd and had an update bug
20:21 GoldenWolf: a
20:21 GoldenWolf: stuck at creating package
20:21 GoldenWolf: nice
20:22 GoldenWolf: brb have to restart osu!
20:23 GoldenWolf: updating
20:24 GoldenWolf: done
20:26 Okoratu: yay
20:26 Okoratu: that pattern works way better for me
20:27 GoldenWolf: yay
20:27 Okoratu: there are people who hate high combo numbers
20:27 Okoratu: but just like your last map i think they make sense
20:27 GoldenWolf: I know
20:28 Okoratu: do you mind explaining different combo length in 04:10:041 -
20:28 Okoratu: this part tho
20:28 GoldenWolf: based on the guitar
20:28 GoldenWolf: which breaks down into patterns too
20:28 Okoratu: i would somehow
20:28 Okoratu: nc 04:17:270 (11) -
20:28 Okoratu: for example
20:29 Okoratu: and am asking myself why
20:29 GoldenWolf: I get why
20:29 GoldenWolf: I think it's fair enough
20:29 Okoratu: the other were making sense based on guitar but the last one seemed long
20:30 Okoratu: 04:06:788 (16,1) - do u space or no
20:30 Okoratu: emphasis etc lol
20:30 GoldenWolf: wtf
20:30 GoldenWolf: why is it so close
20:30 GoldenWolf: I think
20:30 GoldenWolf: I accidentaly moved it
20:31 GoldenWolf: and didn't notice
20:31 GoldenWolf: and updated
20:31 GoldenWolf: l0l
20:31 GoldenWolf: yeah I did
20:31 Okoratu: good thing im doublechecking all the shit
20:31 Okoratu: xd
20:31 GoldenWolf: it's supposed to be a part of a diamond pattern
20:31 GoldenWolf: fixed
20:31 GoldenWolf: ty based lord koratu
20:33 Okoratu: 02:03:716 (7,8,9) - idk this is intentional and stuff but based on what all the other stuff is u could ask yourself why this one is so small
20:33 Okoratu: do you have reason
20:34 GoldenWolf: no real reason other than it plays quite nicely
20:34 Okoratu: and 02:16:186 (9,10,11,12,1) - is literally only instance that is stacked isntead of spaces daskl;fasjdf
20:34 Okoratu: for these
20:34 GoldenWolf: ye I know
20:35 Okoratu: i assume u know
20:35 Okoratu: u know a lot about your own maps
20:35 Okoratu: lol
20:35 GoldenWolf: a moving stream there didn't feel good
20:35 Okoratu: LIKE BASICALLY everyone who knows how to map
20:35 GoldenWolf: or at least I didn't find any shape that would fit in this place and plays nicely
20:35 GoldenWolf: so a stacked stream felt the best
20:35 Okoratu: o ok
20:36 Okoratu: it didn't feel weird but these 2 things sticked out pretty much
20:36 Okoratu: because they would indicate that these places are somewhat special
20:36 Okoratu: and i wanted to know why special
20:36 GoldenWolf: as long as it plays nice I'm fine with it
20:36 GoldenWolf: nah nothing special
20:36 GoldenWolf: just using what feels the best to play
20:37 GoldenWolf: this map is quite player-friendly compared to my other maps xd
20:37 Okoratu: it is
20:37 Okoratu: i like that
20:37 Okoratu: part about it
20:40 Okoratu: ok
20:40 Okoratu: so now i'll just doublecheck the annoying shit
20:40 GoldenWolf: or
20:40 Okoratu: and then post a summary of this
20:40 Okoratu: or
20:40 Okoratu: OR?
20:40 GoldenWolf: ok or
20:40 GoldenWolf: ok or at u
20:41 Okoratu: im dead
20:41 GoldenWolf: your name is english
20:41 GoldenWolf: not japanese
20:41 Okoratu: im dead
20:41 GoldenWolf: you aren't a weeboo
20:41 GoldenWolf: but a westaboo
20:42 Okoratu: weeboo
20:42 GoldenWolf: +a
20:42 Okoratu: a+
20:42 Okoratu: idk am i a weeb lol
20:42 GoldenWolf: my map is a+
20:42 *GoldenWolf runs
20:42 GoldenWolf: your name is okoratu
20:42 Okoratu: your name is goldenwolf
20:42 GoldenWolf: I'm glad you noticed
20:42 Okoratu: same
20:43 GoldenWolf: now check the annoying stuff
20:43 GoldenWolf: I'll reward you with one kd
20:43 Okoratu: i wanna dinner first
20:43 GoldenWolf: afsadsdadsa
20:46 Okoratu: do you play in 4:3
20:46 Okoratu: does the bg there look like it used to
20:47 GoldenWolf: I play on 1440*900
20:47 GoldenWolf: so no
20:47 GoldenWolf: 1680*1050*
20:47 GoldenWolf: 1280*1024 is 4:3 right?
20:48 Okoratu: dats 5:4
20:48 Okoratu: the res noone plays
20:48 GoldenWolf: 1024*768?
20:48 Okoratu: maps have to be not shit in 4:3 and 16:9
20:48 Okoratu: 1024x768 is 4:3
20:49 Okoratu: so by default it seems to cut off hand
20:49 Okoratu: in that res
20:49 GoldenWolf: this is
20:49 GoldenWolf: small
20:49 GoldenWolf: jesus
20:49 GoldenWolf: yes it does
20:49 Okoratu: do u care about that
20:49 Okoratu: i don't think it's the fault of the sb doing it
20:50 Okoratu: because preview image is also cut the same way
20:50 GoldenWolf: who plays in 4:3
20:50 Okoratu: idk Ringating would hate u again
20:50 Okoratu: xd
20:50 Okoratu: xdddddd
20:50 GoldenWolf: who dat
20:51 Okoratu:
p/436985820:51 GoldenWolf: wait
20:51 GoldenWolf: again?
20:51 GoldenWolf: .
20:51 GoldenWolf: anyway no I don't care about that
20:51 GoldenWolf: most people use 16:9
20:52 Okoratu: ok then cool
20:52 Okoratu: dinnerss
20:52 GoldenWolf: yes
20:57 GoldenWolf: updated the map n stuff
20:57 GoldenWolf: i'll be on league
21:48 Okoratu: a