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-NanoRIPE-
Please ranked this map :>

Red : Unrankable thing
Bold : Recommended to fix it
Black : Normal suggestion

[General]
- i think white color combo is unrankable :3


[Easy]
00:18:881 (3,1) - too close D:
00:29:747 (2,4) - stacked pls :>
00:35:889 (1,2) - the shape between this two sliders slider not same ~
01:01:637 (2,3,4,5) - i'm disagree about this pattern ~ ( i think 1/1 beat is better at all ) and why u follow vocal here? since you follow instrument here 01:08:015 (1,2,3,4)
01:16:519 (2,3,4) - fix blanket
01:19:354 (1) - remove NC

[Normal]
00:18:409 (2,2) - overlap ;)
00:47:464 (2,4) - bad overlap for me
00:49:117 (1,1) - stacked or avoid overlap
00:59:984 (7) - NC and then remove NC the next one
01:02:346 (6) - NC (to reduce the combo)
01:05:889 - add circle here (for consistent pattern)
01:06:125 (4) - NC (same as before the reason)
01:09:905 (5) - ^
01:13:448 - circle (same as before)
01:13:684 - NC (you know what i mean right? )
01:17:228 - add circle here (since she still singing the next lyric here)

[Hard]
00:10:141 (3) - remove whistle sound
00:27:858 (2,4) - overlap please
00:41:322 (4,5,6) - i think follow vocal here its not a right choice ~ maybe remove 00:41:322 (5) this slider and add 1 circle then 1/2 slider instead ~
do same with 00:42:267 (7)
00:45:810 (6) - NC?
00:52:897 (1) - remove NC
01:00:928 (2,3) - bad flow :>

GL ~ with your mapset ~
Topic Starter
Rtyzen
-NanoRIPE-

-NanoRIPE- wrote:

Please ranked this map :>

Red : Unrankable thing
Bold : Recommended to fix it
Black : Normal suggestion

[General]
- i think white color combo is unrankable :3 idk nobody else mentioned it before I think it's fine


[Easy]
00:18:881 (3,1) - too close D: I think it's fine D:
00:29:747 (2,4) - stacked pls :> Done
00:35:889 (1,2) - the shape between this two sliders slider not same ~ Fixed
01:01:637 (2,3,4,5) - i'm disagree about this pattern ~ ( i think 1/1 beat is better at all ) and why u follow vocal here? since you follow instrument here 01:08:015 (1,2,3,4) Changed 2,3
01:16:519 (2,3,4) - fix blanket can't make the blanket better with the same shape
01:19:354 (1) - remove NC It's ok because it's long

[Normal]
00:18:409 (2,2) - overlap ;) The first one will be gone before the second one appears
00:47:464 (2,4) - bad overlap for me Fixed
00:49:117 (1,1) - stacked or avoid overlap Fixed
00:59:984 (7) - NC and then remove NC the next one No NC is on big white line
01:02:346 (6) - NC (to reduce the combo) ^
01:05:889 - add circle here (for consistent pattern) Uh it's consistent with 00:56:676 (1,2,3) -
01:06:125 (4) - NC (same as before the reason)
01:09:905 (5) - ^
01:13:448 - circle (same as before)
01:13:684 - NC (you know what i mean right? )
01:17:228 - add circle here (since she still singing the next lyric here) ^ All of these same reason

[Hard]
00:10:141 (3) - remove whistle sound It should be there
00:27:858 (2,4) - overlap please Not too sure whatt you mean
00:41:322 (4,5,6) - i think follow vocal here its not a right choice ~ maybe remove 00:41:322 (5) this slider and add 1 circle then 1/2 slider instead ~
do same with 00:42:267 (7) Done
00:45:810 (6) - NC? Not really necessary
00:52:897 (1) - remove NC I think it's fine cuz of big white line
01:00:928 (2,3) - bad flow :> Eh

GL ~ with your mapset ~

Thanks alot!
Aeril
I've been told many times that pure white/black combo colours are unrankable so to check I asked a bunch of mappers/BNs/QATs for their opinions.
The data shows that 1/2 say its unrankable and the other 1/2 say its unrankable in certain situations which in this case, sometimes it is, other times it isn't so I'd say it's a smart idea to change the white combo colours c; If I feel like it later I might toss in an actual mod after this but it probably might not happen.
(no kds)
Topic Starter
Rtyzen

Aeril wrote:

I've been told many times that pure white/black combo colours are unrankable so to check I asked a bunch of mappers/BNs/QATs for their opinions.
The data shows that 1/2 say its unrankable and the other 1/2 say its unrankable in certain situations which in this case, sometimes it is, other times it isn't so I'd say it's a smart idea to change the white combo colours c; If I feel like it later I might toss in an actual mod after this but it probably might not happen.
(no kds)
Wow thanks alot for the help

I never heard anything about white combo colors before but I'm just gonna change it to be safe
Monstrata
Refractions

00:07:543 (1,1) - Aesthetically, the overlaps kinda mess up what you want to do here.
00:09:905 (2,3,4) - make the spacing more consistent. its slightly different
00:14:393 (4,5) - make this the same spacing as 00:13:921 (3,4) - . no reason to give this such a big jump when 00:13:684 (2,3) - isnt even as big.
00:15:574 (2,3) - Could give this a jump since you made 00:13:684 (2,3) - a jump. just be a bit more consistent with what sounds you create jumps to
00:16:991 (1,2,3) - here for example, you don't jump from 2>3 so the kick on 3 doesn't feel consistently emphasized. maybe its better if you just dont put jumps until later tbh
00:17:700 (3,4,5) - make spacing more similar
00:19:590 (3,4) - Why the large jump
00:24:078 (5,1) - This jump is really small. could use a bigger spacing tbh
00:26:440 (1,2) - no need to overlap, you can space it more
00:30:928 (3) - weird place to put the circle. and overlaps the previous slider unnecessarily. find a neater place for it maybe
00:32:818 (3) - this shape could be more even tbh lol
00:45:220 - add another circle here (triplet)
00:47:228 (1,2,3,4) - blanket patterns could be cleaner here
00:48:881 - not going to map the vocal?
00:51:952 (4) - you can make this a 1/2 slider tbh its really empty here and the spacing from 4>5 is quite small so it makes ppl think there isn't much time in between the notes (when there really is a 3/4 gap)
00:58:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - see if you can make the pattern more cohesive. right now 4 is kinda randomly up there lol
01:00:928 (3) - Shorten this to a 1/4 slider, then add a circle to 01:01:165 -
01:03:054 (4,5) - okay wtf this jump is huge lol.
01:11:795 (1) - shorten this to 1/2 and add a circle on 01:12:149 - basically refer to ur rhythm on 00:56:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which is good.
01:14:393 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this rhythm is wrong xP. use this rhythm, then remap tbh, if you want it to be 100% fuzzy wuzzy approved
01:16:283 (4) - same, shorten to 1/2 slider and then add a circle on 01:16:637 - stacking it on the next slider's head
01:21:716 (3) - same as earlier, shorten this to a 1/4 slider and add a circle on 01:21:952 - stackde to the next slider's head so you get that jump on the vocal. it doesn't actually follow the vocal that much, but it helps emphasize the slider-head too

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you don't have to apply everything, just give me your reasoning if you dont want to change anything and ya
Lasse
00:05:653 - 00:09:432 - wtf happened with your mp3, why is it suddenly so loud lol
mp3 is only 128kbps and has really noticeable clipping, why not replace it with the 192 one all the ranked maps of the tv size use?


also 01:17:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - what is this? it completely ignores rhythm of the song ... things like 01:18:172 (4,5) - make so sense since everything in the song switches to blue ticks. i think something like https://i.imgur.com/nhwYCF4.jpg could keep the general idea of the pattern while actually fitting the song much better
Topic Starter
Rtyzen

Monstrata wrote:

Refractions
00:58:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - see if you can make the pattern more cohesive. right now 4 is kinda randomly up there lol Not sure what I can change tho
01:16:283 (4) - same, shorten to 1/2 slider and then add a circle on 01:16:637 - stacking it on the next slider's head I prefer to keep this for the dragging sound in the vocal
Fixed everything except these 2

Lasse wrote:

00:05:653 - 00:09:432 - wtf happened with your mp3, why is it suddenly so loud lol
mp3 is only 128kbps and has really noticeable clipping, why not replace it with the 192 one all the ranked maps of the tv size use? I changed the mp3, but the sudden loudness seems worse on the new one


also 01:17:464 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - what is this? it completely ignores rhythm of the song ... things like 01:18:172 (4,5) - make so sense since everything in the song switches to blue ticks. i think something like https://i.imgur.com/nhwYCF4.jpg could keep the general idea of the pattern while actually fitting the song much better Fixed
Thanks a lot ! :)
neonat
SPOILER
2018-01-26 01:46 neonat: 00:42:914 (4,1) - can you adjust 1 so no overlapping?
2018-01-26 01:46 neonat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/910780 Yasuda Rei - Mirror -TV edit- [Emilia's Easy]]
2018-01-26 01:48 Rtyzen: ok i rotated it abit
2018-01-26 01:48 neonat: should there be a whistle on the start of 01:16:930 (2) - ?
2018-01-26 01:48 neonat: also 01:18:820 (4) -
2018-01-26 01:49 Rtyzen: i dont think so
2018-01-26 01:49 Rtyzen: its on 01:16:694 -
2018-01-26 01:49 Rtyzen: but no note
2018-01-26 01:49 Rtyzen: but actually should i add it so it sounds better
2018-01-26 01:49 neonat: well at least cuz 01:18:820 (4) - sounds the same as 01:03:702 (4) -
2018-01-26 01:49 neonat: the earlier one maybe it was like the end of 01:00:867 (1) -
2018-01-26 01:51 Rtyzen: but the end of 01:00:867 (1) - doesnt have whistle either
2018-01-26 01:51 neonat: I'm just working the reasoning out as I go, yes it does not have
2018-01-26 01:52 Rtyzen: so u saying both should have?
2018-01-26 01:52 neonat: nah don't have to
2018-01-26 01:53 Rtyzen: ok
2018-01-26 01:54 Rtyzen: ok i just realized the preview point is weird i changed it alr
2018-01-26 01:55 neonat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/910782 Yasuda Rei - Mirror -TV edit- [Normal]]
2018-01-26 01:55 neonat: 00:14:332 (2) - the whistle on sliderstart
2018-01-26 01:55 neonat: 00:16:221 (2) -
2018-01-26 01:56 Rtyzen: fixed
2018-01-26 01:56 neonat: 00:19:292 (1,2) -
2018-01-26 01:56 neonat: 00:21:182 (1,2) -
2018-01-26 01:56 Rtyzen: ok wtf
2018-01-26 01:59 Rtyzen: ok theres like a bunch of useless green lines
2018-01-26 02:00 neonat: there's some long parts, maybe for 01:07:009 (5,6,7) - change it to a circle at 01:07:009 - and a slider from 01:07:245 - 01:07:717 - would also match up to the vocals
2018-01-26 02:01 Rtyzen: does that not sound off when compared to the rest of the chorus
2018-01-26 02:01 neonat: 01:18:820 (6) - add a whistle to the end
2018-01-26 02:01 neonat: then you can edit 01:03:229 (6,7) - as well
2018-01-26 02:02 neonat: waiot
2018-01-26 02:03 neonat: no changing that is just fine, it's not sounding the same as the other parts of the chorus
2018-01-26 02:03 Rtyzen: edit?
2018-01-26 02:04 neonat: the closest other part in the chorus to 1:07:009 is 01:21:654 (1,2) -
2018-01-26 02:04 neonat: which is also red line based
2018-01-26 02:04 neonat: 01:23:072 (3) - remove the finish
2018-01-26 02:04 Rtyzen: I changed this part 01:06:536 (4,5) - to your suggestion alr
2018-01-26 02:04 Rtyzen: seems ok
2018-01-26 02:07 Rtyzen: ok i removed the finish at 01:23:072 - for all diffs alr
2018-01-26 02:08 neonat: forgot in easy, NC this? 00:55:198 (5) -
2018-01-26 02:08 neonat: it's out of the 8 beat phrase
2018-01-26 02:09 neonat: just note that this is just 4 beats NC 01:19:765 (1) - idk if that's intentional, it's the only one
2018-01-26 02:10 neonat: that leads me to the Normal, verse is all 4 beat, chorus is 8 beat except for 01:19:765 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - so not sure what is the pattern you are going for
2018-01-26 02:10 Rtyzen: fixed both
2018-01-26 02:10 Rtyzen: fixed also
2018-01-26 02:14 neonat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/919587 Yasuda Rei - Mirror -TV edit- [Hard]]
2018-01-26 02:14 neonat: 00:14:332 (3) - whistle on start
2018-01-26 02:14 neonat: 00:16:221 (3) -
2018-01-26 02:14 Rtyzen: ok on hard theres also alot of missing whistles
2018-01-26 02:14 Rtyzen: i fixed them alr
2018-01-26 02:14 Rtyzen: like i recently realized how to check hitsounds by lowering volume to like 15%
2018-01-26 02:15 Rtyzen: so im doing that for the diffs now
2018-01-26 02:16 neonat: 00:51:654 (2) - some of the sliderborder is out of the client
2018-01-26 02:17 Rtyzen: fixed
2018-01-26 02:18 neonat: 01:19:528 (1,2) - this is weird because of 01:20:001 (2) - starting on the off beat
2018-01-26 02:18 neonat: you can just use actual triplets at 01:19:528 (1) - and fit in the slider on the on beat instead
2018-01-26 02:19 Rtyzen: yea i was thinking of changing it to that
2018-01-26 02:19 Rtyzen: nc on the white line right
2018-01-26 02:19 neonat: yea
2018-01-26 02:20 neonat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1258871 Yasuda Rei - Mirror -TV edit- [Insane]]
2018-01-26 02:20 neonat: 00:03:938 (9,1) - better to no stack them
2018-01-26 02:20 neonat: 00:03:229 (6,4) - these dont
2018-01-26 02:21 neonat: 00:12:442 (3) - out of field
2018-01-26 02:22 Rtyzen: the gap is just 1/2 so stack is not that bad
2018-01-26 02:22 neonat: I'd say it's odd one out
2018-01-26 02:23 Rtyzen: these dont what
2018-01-26 02:23 neonat: these dont stack with the previous
2018-01-26 02:23 Rtyzen: 00:07:717 (9,1) - this one is the same
2018-01-26 02:23 neonat: unstack too then
2018-01-26 02:23 Rtyzen: oh ok
2018-01-26 02:23 Rtyzen: I mean 00:07:717 (9,1) - is different
2018-01-26 02:24 Rtyzen: i thought u were just referring to 1/2
2018-01-26 02:26 neonat: 00:52:127 (3,4,5) -
2018-01-26 02:26 neonat: mainly 00:52:481 (5) - cuz 00:52:363 (4) - is a hold
2018-01-26 02:27 Rtyzen: wait what do you want me to do
2018-01-26 02:28 neonat: remove that circle, have the slider start there and extend
2018-01-26 02:28 Rtyzen: oh yeah that makes more sense
2018-01-26 02:30 neonat: 01:11:143 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - make the spacing from slider more even to the stream
2018-01-26 02:31 Rtyzen: fixed
2018-01-26 02:36 neonat: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/516000 Yasuda Rei - Mirror -TV edit- [Refraction]]
2018-01-26 02:36 neonat: 00:10:552 (3,4) - kinda close, given it's the 1/2 and not 1/4
2018-01-26 02:36 neonat: maybe shift 00:09:843 (1,2) - slightly closer too
2018-01-26 02:38 Rtyzen: I shifted 00:51:772 (2) - to 317|292
2018-01-26 02:40 neonat: 00:20:473 (4,5) - kinda close
2018-01-26 02:40 neonat: 00:24:489 (5) - NC
2018-01-26 02:41 Rtyzen: i think by that time they will be used to the pattern and be able to read it just fine
2018-01-26 02:41 Rtyzen: why nc
2018-01-26 02:42 neonat: 00:36:064 - ignores the vocal here by leaving it blank
2018-01-26 02:43 neonat: the sv changes everywhere god lol
2018-01-26 02:44 Rtyzen: the change isnt that big
2018-01-26 02:45 Rtyzen: i just added a circle 00:36:064 -
2018-01-26 02:47 neonat: 01:12:914 (3,6) - ew that unstack lol
2018-01-26 02:49 Rtyzen: whoops
2018-01-26 02:52 neonat: 00:59:686 (4,5) - the only 1/4 stack it seems in the kiai
2018-01-26 02:53 Rtyzen: well theres 01:22:363 (4,5) - but ill change it
2018-01-26 02:55 neonat: could change that one too, that's lkike the peak
2018-01-26 02:56 neonat: update so I can check the hitsounds lol
2018-01-26 02:56 Rtyzen: changed both
2018-01-26 02:56 Rtyzen: yep was gonna ask u to double check the hs
2018-01-26 02:59 Rtyzen: updated
2018-01-26 03:05 Rtyzen: shit i missed a whistle
2018-01-26 03:05 Rtyzen: highest diff 01:22:363 (4) -
2018-01-26 03:06 neonat: go ahead and update that, I havent reached it
2018-01-26 03:09 neonat: the clap on 01:05:355 (3) - in insane is kinda odd
2018-01-26 03:10 Rtyzen: it follows the same pattern as the other parts
2018-01-26 03:10 Rtyzen: just no clap on 01:05:119 -
DeRandom Otaku
[Normal]
  1. 01:02:757 (5,6,7,8) - Feels like a totally random stream of 1/2 sliders, its neither emphasizing drums not the vocals properly. it honestly looks like a filler rhythm, would be better if something more appropriate is used
  2. 01:11:497 (8,1) - Blanket!!
  3. 01:17:639 - Same beat as 01:02:520 (4) - so ya map it as well since it has the vocal too
  4. 01:17:875 (4,5,6,7) - same rhythm thing as firstp oint
[Hard]
  1. 00:38:662 (2,3) - Would be much better if rhythm similar to something like 00:45:276 (4,1) - is used cuz ya the cymbal sound on 00:38:898 - is important ya but ignoring the vocal at 00:39:017 - is just meh considering you distinctively followed vocals before
[Insane]
  1. 01:26:851 (5,6,1) - more spacing for one is gonna be nicer because it has much more intensity
[Ex]
  1. 00:16:812 - The sounds here are pretty strong ,try mapping them with circles. Also you had circles here in insane too so yea
  2. AR 9 is gonna be better for reading since the map is mostly full of alt patterns
call me back!!
hehe
!!!!
Topic Starter
Rtyzen

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Hard]
  1. 00:38:662 (2,3) - Would be much better if rhythm similar to something like 00:45:276 (4,1) - is used cuz ya the cymbal sound on 00:38:898 - is important ya but ignoring the vocal at 00:39:017 - is just meh considering you distinctively followed vocals before
    I can't really find a rhythm that would map the blue tick without sounding weird, because the vocal is not exactly on the blue tick either. In gameplay hitting the red tick would sound like it follows the vocals
[Ex]
  1. AR 9 is gonna be better for reading since the map is mostly full of alt patterns AR9 seems too high but i increased it to 8.5
Fixed everything else, thanks a lot!
DeRandom Otaku

Rtyzen wrote:

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Ex]
  1. AR 9 is gonna be better for reading since the map is mostly full of alt patterns AR9 seems too high but i increased it to 8.5
The ar was 8.7 before and i asked you to increase, not decrease!!
Topic Starter
Rtyzen
Sorry I misread the mod. Insane is 8.3, Highest diff is 9 now
jcjc

handsome wrote:

!!!!
DeRandom Otaku
yes!
Topic Starter
Rtyzen

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

yes!

handsome wrote:

!!!!
sinn
mind if i ask why is there still taku in the tags even though his difficulty got removed?
Fycho

Rtyzen wrote:

there's an extra tag (taku) from before I deleted his GD

thanks neonat
disqualified to fix the tag issue


Edit: requalified.
Topic Starter
Rtyzen
fixed the tags
hehe

Hobbes2 wrote:

Placeholder for m4m!

Easy

Normal

Hard

Refraction

Insane
jcjc

handsome wrote:

Hobbes2 wrote:

Placeholder for m4m!

Easy

Normal

Hard

Refraction

Insane
perfect set
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