Thanks for the mod!pishifat wrote:
professionalbox
comboing pattern here in the beginning is kind of confusing. like i can't tell what the pattern is at all, unlike the others. looking at the rikih's part after this, it's pretty clear that he has 1 combo per barline (large white tick), and i think that would work pretty well on yours too. so look in the box if you wanna change it to that. if you don't want to, find something you think works well cuz right now it's very inconsistent Changed some of the NC
00:51:784 (6) - umm weird snapping. it would really be a lot better to just ignore the vocals there since they're not on precise beats and they contradict with the strong beats on 00:52:127 - and 00:52:298. (those two times should really have something mapped on them and not ignored like they are now) This was fixed in desperates mod!
00:53:156 (2,3,4,5,1) - star shape made out of this could be better (ctrlshiftDfanciness) Modified it to look better
01:05:327 (6) - probably should be parallel with 01:03:956 (3) - since i assume that's the effect you're going for Changed the position a bit
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Fixed almost all with Kenterz on Hard and fixed some things on Normal ! Thanks a lot !
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[General]
- I feel like the difficulty settings are a bit messed up, usually when you set the Ar, most ideal choice would be that hp and od would be 1 point below it so you could raise OD and HP on your Normal difficulty by 1, same goes for Hard.
ProfessionalBox;
- 00:44:241 (1) - Vaikka tää pelaa ihan siististi, ois silti ihan mukavaa jos tää sais normaalin etäisyyden muista. Ite tollanen pieni hyppy vaan häiritsee + se ei näytä visuaalisesti mitenkään parhaalta. Esimerkki miten ite tekisin;
- 00:45:956 (2) - Siirrä vähä enemmän oikealle / tee slideristä sellane söpö, kurvikas mikä blankettaa ykkösen, sopis varmaan paremmin?
- 00:46:298 (3) - Vaikka tääkin pelaa ihan hyvin, vokaaleja vois silti seurata paremmin. Nyt 00:45:441 (1) - tää seuraa niitä hyvin koska siin on vaan ''meeeee'' mut sit 00:46:298 (3) - tää slider seuraa atm ''no one's'' niin suosittelen tekemään 2x 1/2 slidereitä tai sit nuotteja sinne, varmaan tekee siitä mielenkiintosemman pelatakki c:
- 00:50:413 (3) - Blanket on ihan vähä auki tuolt alhaalt, korjaa jos haluut
- 00:59:156 (3) - Jos teet tällasia, yritä kattoo et se blankettaa sen hienosti, vaikkakin tiedän et tää on tarkotuksella tehty, niin uskon että jokin tällanen vois sopii paremmin;
JA että flow pysyis, laita 00:59:670 (4) - vitosen päälle? Tulis iha mukava c: - 01:02:584 (3,4) - Tää odotus seuraavaan nuottiin (3->4) on hirveen pitkä ja tylsä pelattavaks, voisit vaan tehdä kolmosesta 1/1 sliderin ?
RikiH;- 01:07:384 (1,2) - There isn't a single reason to do this, this doesn't follow the vocals properly and I think the white ticks might be a bit more powerful here, I can be mistaken, though.
- 01:10:127 (1,2) - ^
- 01:12:870 (1,2) - ^ And so on...
- 01:14:413 (1) - I think the slider is not that appealing to players, maybe if you would take the white point and move it more to the left (see picture), the curve would make it nice? Oh well, pic below
Katty Pie; - I'm a bit worried that this is the only part that might not fit into the collab since you're the only one who uses the symmetry-copy paste mapping style here. Some of the jumps are a bit unnecessary too and some of them don't play that well but I'm going to cover it in my suggestions~
- 01:28:813 (3,2) - I don't see any reason to ignore this blanket so you might want to make it perfect! (it's off from the start of the slider)
- 01:30:527 (4) - This should NOT end on the stanza since stanza is the tick that most of times (almost every time) has to be played, ignoring it sounds way too wrong AND because of this, you aren't able to start the 01:31:041 (1) - repeat slider on the strong beat and it's off too.
- 01:36:013 (4) - Basically the same here, it doesn't make that much sense for me... At least make the blanket perfect?
- 01:37:727 (1,4) - Maybe a bit harsh jump here but it plays alright, nothing to complain about it
- 01:38:756 (7) - Here again
- 01:39:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern doesn't work (for me) you have jumps mixed with antijumps, I was expecting that you have to keep your cursor moving in this pattern but then 01:39:956 (5,6,7) - this sudden, uncomfortable, unfitting antijump triplet came, why? In order this to play better, i'd suggest moving the 5,6 somewhere else;
- 01:41:498 (5) - Mhm, same stuff
- 01:44:241 (7) - ^
- 01:46:984 (7) - ^
- 01:49:727 (7) - ^
Mao; - 01:55:213 (5) - Try to even out the spacing between this, previous objects and next ones? I think that would play better; see pic
- Haha I'm impressed Mao, great job owo
Desperate-kun; - 02:13:898 (2,3) - I don't approve, the red ticks are kind of meh because white ticks follow the vocals better and white ticks are as strong as the red ones here so using white ticks should be nicer, and you could re-consider the placement of these because currently it doesn't play too nicely;
- 02:29:327 (4,1,2) - As I stated previously, the white ticks > red ticks, try to use them
- 01:07:384 (1,2) - There isn't a single reason to do this, this doesn't follow the vocals properly and I think the white ticks might be a bit more powerful here, I can be mistaken, though.
Secretpipe told me I should fix Riki's Parts as well so here we go.
Thank you really much for the mod <3Asphyxia wrote:
RikiH;Desperate-kun;
- 01:07:384 (1,2) - There isn't a single reason to do this, this doesn't follow the vocals properly and I think the white ticks might be a bit more powerful here, I can be mistaken, though. Well, I can see Riki followed the piano here and it sounds good to me ;w;
- 01:10:127 (1,2) - ^
- 01:12:870 (1,2) - ^ And so on... Same for these
- 01:14:413 (1) - I think the slider is not that appealing to players, maybe if you would take the white point and move it more to the left (see picture), the curve would make it nice? Oh well, pic below Done
- 02:13:898 (2,3) - I don't approve, the red ticks are kind of meh because white ticks follow the vocals better and white ticks are as strong as the red ones here so using white ticks should be nicer, and you could re-consider the placement of these because currently it doesn't play too nicely; In my opinion, the red ticks sliders follow the vocals much better here :3 Also, it plays fine to me, sorry ;w;
- 02:29:327 (4,1,2) - As I stated previously, the white ticks > red ticks, try to use them Again, following vocals here with red ticks. I don't really know why, but it just sounds better to me
In this box there are only 2 lines of code. Try searching them in the .osu-file and replace them :3
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Well, adjusted the blankets as good as I can.
@Asph: I don't know, I've tried to keep the whole spacing even here now but I didn't really do what you've shown in the Screenshot. I've tried it out but I think mine palys better and fits the structure better as well so I'll keep the concept of the pattern as it is for now.
@Asph: I don't know, I've tried to keep the whole spacing even here now but I didn't really do what you've shown in the Screenshot. I've tried it out but I think mine palys better and fits the structure better as well so I'll keep the concept of the pattern as it is for now.
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Asphyxia wrote:
ProfessionalBox;
00:44:241 (1) - Vaikka tää pelaa ihan siististi, ois silti ihan mukavaa jos tää sais normaalin etäisyyden muista. Ite tollanen pieni hyppy vaan häiritsee + se ei näytä visuaalisesti mitenkään parhaalta. Esimerkki miten ite tekisin; Pidän tost pls
Esimerkki
00:45:956 (2) - Siirrä vähä enemmän oikealle / tee slideristä sellane söpö, kurvikas mikä blankettaa ykkösen, sopis varmaan paremmin? Vaihdoin
Esimerkki
00:46:298 (3) - Vaikka tääkin pelaa ihan hyvin, vokaaleja vois silti seurata paremmin. Nyt 00:45:441 (1) - tää seuraa niitä hyvin koska siin on vaan ''meeeee'' mut sit 00:46:298 (3) - tää slider seuraa atm ''no one's'' niin suosittelen tekemään 2x 1/2 slidereitä tai sit nuotteja sinne, varmaan tekee siitä mielenkiintosemman pelatakki c: Muutin sitä kohtaa hieman
00:50:413 (3) - Blanket on ihan vähä auki tuolt alhaalt, korjaa jos haluut Korjasin
00:59:156 (3) - Jos teet tällasia, yritä kattoo et se blankettaa sen hienosti, vaikkakin tiedän et tää on tarkotuksella tehty, niin uskon että jokin tällanen vois sopii paremmin; Toi esimerkki näytti hyvältä, laitoin sillee
Esimerkki
JA että flow pysyis, laita 00:59:670 (4) - vitosen päälle? Tulis iha mukava c: jep
01:02:584 (3,4) - Tää odotus seuraavaan nuottiin (3->4) on hirveen pitkä ja tylsä pelattavaks, voisit vaan tehdä kolmosesta 1/1 sliderin ? Laitoin sinne yhen nuotin lisää
Topic Starter
Everything updated !
Katty , we're waiting for you !
Katty , we're waiting for you !
Some fixed. I used slider 1/1 bcz it good transit in music. If I will use rhythm 1/2 it will sounds OVERMAPED!
http://puu.sh/9QEhb.osu
http://puu.sh/9QEhb.osu
Could I have a reply on my mod, telling what you fixed and what you didn't (with a reason)?Katty Pie wrote:
Some fixed.
Thank you!
I'd appreciate that too ;w; Thanks :3Asphyxia wrote:
Could I have a reply on my mod, telling what you fixed and what you didn't (with a reason)?Katty Pie wrote:
Some fixed.
Thank you!
About sliders. It's good transit between parts in music. here not sounds 1/2 or something else. If I will start slider 1/1 on downbeat it will sounds just ugly and not rhtymicaly.Asphyxia wrote:
Katty Pie;
[*]I'm a bit worried that this is the only part that might not fit into the collab since you're the only one who uses the symmetry-copy paste mapping style here. Some of the jumps are a bit unnecessary too and some of them don't play that well but I'm going to cover it in my suggestions~
[*]01:28:813 (3,2) - I don't see any reason to ignore this blanket so you might want to make it perfect! (it's off from the start of the slider) <---fixed
[*]01:30:527 (4) - This should NOT end on the stanza since stanza is the tick that most of times (almost every time) has to be played, ignoring it sounds way too wrong AND because of this, you aren't able to start the 01:31:041 (1) - repeat slider on the strong beat and it's off too.
[*]01:36:013 (4) - Basically the same here, it doesn't make that much sense for me... At least make the blanket perfect?<----fixed[*]01:37:727 (1,4) - Maybe a bit harsh jump here but it plays alright, nothing to complain about it <---- changed this jump (stack a bit)
[*]01:38:756 (7) - Here again
[*]01:39:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern doesn't work (for me) you have jumps mixed with antijumps, I was expecting that you have to keep your cursor moving in this pattern but then 01:39:956 (5,6,7) - this sudden, uncomfortable, unfitting antijump triplet came, why? In order this to play better, i'd suggest moving the 5,6 somewhere else; <---- changed
[*]01:41:498 (5) - Mhm, same stuff
[*]01:44:241 (7) - ^
[*]01:46:984 (7) - ^
[*]01:49:727 (7) - ^
http://puu.sh/9Sdh2.osu (some updates)
Topic Starter
Updated ! :3
Small IRC with -Bakari-
We discussed some sliders' patterns. Good luck!
IRC mod (Russian langiage)
2014-07-03 18:27 AlexaBM: 01:28:127 (1,2,3) - вот это мне не очень нравится. тут была бы уместна форма пропеллера.. или как это объяснить
2014-07-03 18:28 AlexaBM: http://puu.sh/9VamR/6793485c41.jpg
2014-07-03 18:28 AlexaBM: что-то такое
2014-07-03 18:29 -Bakari-: кстати да, сам не додумался @.@
2014-07-03 18:29 AlexaBM: или что-то другое, но не нравится то, что было
2014-07-03 18:31 -Bakari-: Исправил :3/
2014-07-03 18:31 AlexaBM: 01:32:241 (1,2,3) - я бы сделала что-то [http://puu.sh/9Vavo/5d06f0c8c7.jpg такое]
2014-07-03 18:31 AlexaBM: тоже вентилятором xD
2014-07-03 18:32 -Bakari-: Сделано o/
2014-07-03 18:33 AlexaBM: 01:39:098 (1,2,3,4) - тут флоу ломается и вообще не смотрится.. сейчас подумаю, что тут можно
2014-07-03 18:33 -Bakari-: Сыграй, тут дроп-офф слайдеры вроде как
2014-07-03 18:33 AlexaBM: играла, как-то не пошло
2014-07-03 18:34 -Bakari-: Ну, тогда давай менять
2014-07-03 18:34 AlexaBM: а хотя.. ладно, пока оставь, может никто и не придирется
2014-07-03 18:35 AlexaBM: 01:41:841 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/9VaNs/32c926cde8.jpg
2014-07-03 18:36 AlexaBM: и вроде все
We discussed some sliders' patterns. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Updated !
Let's hunt BAT now~ \o3o/
Let's hunt BAT now~ \o3o/
modlog
00:42 *Secretpipe is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442245 Subformat - More (feat Charli Brix)]
00:45 grumd: first
00:45 grumd: at the beginning Normal sampleset sounds like shit
00:45 grumd: it should be Soft
00:45 grumd: 01:06:184 - and switched to Normal here
00:45 Secretpipe: You mean the Hitsounds ?
00:45 grumd: yes
00:46 *Secretpipe opens his ears
00:47 grumd: 01:29:498 (1,2) - and this is shit
00:47 Secretpipe: I just have to change it on Panel or I have to remake all the hitsounds ? o3o
00:47 grumd: i hate when people use spacing less than 1.0x in fast parts like this
00:47 Secretpipe: this is a blanket I guess
00:47 Secretpipe: xD
00:47 grumd: no
00:47 grumd: the spacing
00:47 grumd: it's shorter than the slider length
00:47 grumd: it breaks all the speed of the map
00:47 grumd: the speed of the pattern
00:48 Secretpipe: too close ?
00:48 grumd: 01:33:956 (2,3) - this looks like an anti-jump
00:48 grumd: yes
00:48 Secretpipe: Oh
00:48 grumd: it shouldn't be less than 1.0x
00:48 grumd: but it's 0.8x everywhere
00:48 grumd: 01:34:898 (6) - except of the streams, the stream is fine
00:48 Secretpipe: I see !
00:48 Secretpipe: yeah
00:48 grumd: 01:35:498 (3,4,5) - it's really too close
00:48 Secretpipe: short spacing breaks the flow overall
00:49 grumd: 01:41:327 (4,5) - this is better
00:49 grumd: 01:44:927 (2,3,4,5) - this is better
00:49 grumd: 01:45:956 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this is better
00:49 Secretpipe: yeah
00:49 grumd: 01:50:070 (1) - what's wrong with the comboing btw?
00:49 Secretpipe: it's not under 1.0x
00:50 grumd: about the hitsounds, just change first 4 green lines to Soft hitsounds
00:50 grumd: eh, yes, it's not under 1.0x that's why it's better
00:50 Secretpipe: I'll fix the Combo , my bad xD
00:50 Secretpipe: Okay for the greenlines
00:50 Secretpipe: in the Panel I guess !
00:50 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VDL2.png
00:51 grumd: yeah
00:51 grumd: press F6
00:51 Secretpipe: Yeah , I wanted to change the red line xD
00:51 Secretpipe: my bad
00:51 grumd: you can change red line too
00:51 grumd: that doesn't change anything
00:51 grumd: and if you want to keep your custom hitsounds
00:51 grumd: you'll have to make same copies for soft custom sampleset
00:52 Secretpipe: So
00:52 grumd: eh?
00:52 Secretpipe: I should put Soft sampleset for every diff ?
00:52 grumd: but you don't have custom hitsounds
00:52 Secretpipe: For Normal and Hard
00:52 grumd: yeah
00:52 Secretpipe: nah but I can add some
00:52 grumd: every diff should have S:C1 until 01:50:070 -
00:52 grumd: i mean
00:52 grumd: it's not bad that you don't have them
00:53 Secretpipe: lemme put S:C1
00:53 grumd: but you used N:C1 for all parts
00:53 Secretpipe: yeah but it's better to have
00:53 grumd: while you don't have any custom hitsounds
00:53 grumd: it's not really a problem
00:53 Secretpipe: yeah , pretty boring xD
00:53 grumd: it's just weird
00:53 grumd: i'd just use N
00:53 Secretpipe: Yeah
00:53 grumd: but since you have that soft-sliderslide
00:53 grumd: you should use S:C1
00:53 Secretpipe: Cause I wanted to add HS
00:53 grumd: at the beginning
00:53 Secretpipe: I have it !
00:54 grumd: yeah fine
00:54 grumd: 02:02:756 (2,3) - dat spacing...
00:54 grumd: i hope you don't change parts of the collab on your own
00:54 grumd: it should be done by respective mappers
00:54 Secretpipe: ofc yes
00:55 Secretpipe: I was PM-ing mappers
00:55 Secretpipe: yeah , so close
00:55 grumd: 02:32:584 (1) - this should be mapped
00:55 grumd: spinner is dumb
00:55 Secretpipe: but maybe the mapper don't wanted to put a looot of jump !
00:56 Secretpipe: Definitely agree
00:57 Secretpipe: I'll ask Desperate-kun , he mapped the end
00:57 Secretpipe: Also
00:57 Secretpipe: For the soft-sliderside
00:58 Secretpipe: For use it , I have to change greenlines !
00:58 Secretpipe: ?*
00:59 grumd: that little sound
01:00 grumd: is used all the time S:C1 is activated
01:00 grumd: so if you put S:C1 it will work after such green line
01:00 Secretpipe: yay ! I was right !
01:00 grumd: S:C2 is for soft2-sliderslide etc i think
01:00 grumd: S is for default
01:00 Secretpipe: yeah
01:01 Secretpipe: soft stuff
01:01 grumd: yep
01:01 grumd: maybe you would like to put storyboard with collaber names?
01:01 Secretpipe: Yeah
01:01 Secretpipe: Damnae wanted to do this
01:01 grumd: damnae? lol
01:01 Secretpipe: But he give up
01:01 Secretpipe: GUESS WHY
01:01 Secretpipe: xD
01:01 grumd: best storyboarder which i know
01:01 grumd: because katty?
01:01 Secretpipe: yeah , we're good friend
01:01 Secretpipe: Yes
01:01 Secretpipe: xD
01:02 Secretpipe: but offline atm
01:02 grumd: Hard
01:02 grumd: 00:44:241 (1) -
01:03 grumd: this is unrankable :3
01:03 Secretpipe: I knew it
01:03 grumd: fixxxx
01:03 Secretpipe: Yes !
01:03 Secretpipe: I'll do it
01:03 Secretpipe: more basic
01:03 grumd: 01:34:298 (4) - also what the fuck
01:04 grumd: use two points for the slider end
01:04 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VEQF.jpg
01:04 Secretpipe: Wanted to add more originality xD I never do that before
01:05 grumd: that's not originality but a crap
)))
01:05 grumd: rly
01:05 grumd: it does nothing but making the slider look uneven
01:05 Secretpipe: Yeah
01:05 grumd: 02:09:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this it too hard. so much 1/2 in a row is sometimes hard to click and will make many people fail
01:05 grumd: just add few sliders please
01:05 Secretpipe: Yeah , it's not my part here !
01:06 Secretpipe: I'd add a spinner
01:06 grumd: 02:11:327 (3) - didn't see any 1/4 before, strange
01:06 grumd: spinner? idk
01:07 Secretpipe: ²yeah
01:07 Secretpipe: some sliders would be awesome indeed !
01:07 grumd: ²²²²²²²²²²
01:07 *grumd is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442245 Subformat - More (feat Charli Brix) [Normal]]
01:07 grumd: 01:28:127 (1) -
01:07 Secretpipe: my keyboard sucks orz
01:07 grumd: this is too close after spinner
01:07 grumd: this is not allowed in Normal and Easy
01:07 Secretpipe: wow , nothing else in the Hard ?
01:07 grumd: you must have a break between spinner and a circle
01:07 grumd: i'm not modding like the shit our of it
01:08 grumd: just giving basic advices
01:08 grumd: on important things
01:08 Secretpipe: haha x) I see!
01:08 grumd: wow, second half of the kiai looks pretty hard
01:08 grumd: you added many rhythms
01:08 grumd: it was 1/1 all the time before
01:08 Secretpipe: maybe I can stop the spinner a bit earlier
01:09 grumd: 02:01:727 (3,4,5) - that's pretty hard as well
01:09 grumd: you should make Normal less complicated in terms of rhythm in this part
01:09 grumd: triples is cool but not that strange stuff
01:09 grumd: it fits the music but may be hard for newbie players
01:10 grumd: you know it's the easiest diff
01:11 Secretpipe: hm
01:11 Secretpipe: Should I extend (2) ?
01:11 grumd: i know
01:11 Secretpipe: I mean (3)
01:11 grumd: look
01:11 grumd: 01:50:070 (1,2,3) -
01:11 grumd: just replace a triple with a slider
01:12 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFtP.jpg
01:12 grumd: it makes all the stuff really easier (without that streams
01:12 grumd: )
01:12 grumd: and still keeps the rhythm
01:12 grumd: just make it like that in all similar patterns
01:12 grumd: with of course
01:12 Secretpipe: 01:50:070 (1,2,3) - So , this is a good rhythmic pattern ?
01:12 grumd: variety of palcement
01:12 Secretpipe: yeah
01:12 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFtP.jpg
01:12 grumd: this is
01:12 grumd: a good pattern
01:13 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFza.jpg
01:13 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFzM.jpg
01:13 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFAf.jpg
01:13 Secretpipe: 1/2 mapping ? =p
01:13 grumd: you can do many variations
01:13 Secretpipe: yeah
01:13 Secretpipe: It's why I added some variated sliders
01:13 grumd: yeah
01:13 grumd: seen
01:13 Secretpipe: I wanted to add some originality !
01:14 grumd: just make it a bit easier and it's good
01:14 grumd: gj
01:14 Secretpipe: :3
01:15 Secretpipe: Also
01:15 Secretpipe: 00:58:984 (1,2,3,4) -
01:15 Secretpipe: Is it a good placement ?
01:15 grumd: 01:59:670 (3,4,5) - this can be variated as this http://puu.sh/9VFLZ.jpg
01:16 Secretpipe: I can make a better square also
01:16 grumd: well it's actually not good
01:16 grumd: placement
01:16 grumd: but i didn't mind
01:16 grumd: the rhythm in that part is bad overall
01:16 grumd: you should have payed more attention to vocals
01:17 Secretpipe: yeah o.o
01:18 Secretpipe: anything else ?
01:18 Secretpipe: I wrote some things on a paper !
01:18 grumd: nah
01:18 Secretpipe: yay , I just hope it's good enough for a first time mapping with vocals !
01:18 Secretpipe: Go post the log , I'll KD you !
01:18 grumd: eeeeeeeeeeeh
01:19 grumd: kudosus suck
00:45 grumd: first
00:45 grumd: at the beginning Normal sampleset sounds like shit
00:45 grumd: it should be Soft
00:45 grumd: 01:06:184 - and switched to Normal here
00:45 Secretpipe: You mean the Hitsounds ?
00:45 grumd: yes
00:46 *Secretpipe opens his ears
00:47 grumd: 01:29:498 (1,2) - and this is shit
00:47 Secretpipe: I just have to change it on Panel or I have to remake all the hitsounds ? o3o
00:47 grumd: i hate when people use spacing less than 1.0x in fast parts like this
00:47 Secretpipe: this is a blanket I guess
00:47 Secretpipe: xD
00:47 grumd: no
00:47 grumd: the spacing
00:47 grumd: it's shorter than the slider length
00:47 grumd: it breaks all the speed of the map
00:47 grumd: the speed of the pattern
00:48 Secretpipe: too close ?
00:48 grumd: 01:33:956 (2,3) - this looks like an anti-jump
00:48 grumd: yes
00:48 Secretpipe: Oh
00:48 grumd: it shouldn't be less than 1.0x
00:48 grumd: but it's 0.8x everywhere
00:48 grumd: 01:34:898 (6) - except of the streams, the stream is fine
00:48 Secretpipe: I see !
00:48 Secretpipe: yeah
00:48 grumd: 01:35:498 (3,4,5) - it's really too close
00:48 Secretpipe: short spacing breaks the flow overall
00:49 grumd: 01:41:327 (4,5) - this is better
00:49 grumd: 01:44:927 (2,3,4,5) - this is better
00:49 grumd: 01:45:956 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this is better
00:49 Secretpipe: yeah
00:49 grumd: 01:50:070 (1) - what's wrong with the comboing btw?
00:49 Secretpipe: it's not under 1.0x
00:50 grumd: about the hitsounds, just change first 4 green lines to Soft hitsounds
00:50 grumd: eh, yes, it's not under 1.0x that's why it's better
00:50 Secretpipe: I'll fix the Combo , my bad xD
00:50 Secretpipe: Okay for the greenlines
00:50 Secretpipe: in the Panel I guess !
00:50 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VDL2.png
00:51 grumd: yeah
00:51 grumd: press F6
00:51 Secretpipe: Yeah , I wanted to change the red line xD
00:51 Secretpipe: my bad
00:51 grumd: you can change red line too
00:51 grumd: that doesn't change anything
00:51 grumd: and if you want to keep your custom hitsounds
00:51 grumd: you'll have to make same copies for soft custom sampleset
00:52 Secretpipe: So
00:52 grumd: eh?
00:52 Secretpipe: I should put Soft sampleset for every diff ?
00:52 grumd: but you don't have custom hitsounds
00:52 Secretpipe: For Normal and Hard
00:52 grumd: yeah
00:52 Secretpipe: nah but I can add some
00:52 grumd: every diff should have S:C1 until 01:50:070 -
00:52 grumd: i mean
00:52 grumd: it's not bad that you don't have them
00:53 Secretpipe: lemme put S:C1
00:53 grumd: but you used N:C1 for all parts
00:53 Secretpipe: yeah but it's better to have
00:53 grumd: while you don't have any custom hitsounds
00:53 grumd: it's not really a problem
00:53 Secretpipe: yeah , pretty boring xD
00:53 grumd: it's just weird
00:53 grumd: i'd just use N
00:53 Secretpipe: Yeah
00:53 grumd: but since you have that soft-sliderslide
00:53 grumd: you should use S:C1
00:53 Secretpipe: Cause I wanted to add HS
00:53 grumd: at the beginning
00:53 Secretpipe: I have it !
00:54 grumd: yeah fine
00:54 grumd: 02:02:756 (2,3) - dat spacing...
00:54 grumd: i hope you don't change parts of the collab on your own
00:54 grumd: it should be done by respective mappers
00:54 Secretpipe: ofc yes
00:55 Secretpipe: I was PM-ing mappers
00:55 Secretpipe: yeah , so close
00:55 grumd: 02:32:584 (1) - this should be mapped
00:55 grumd: spinner is dumb
00:55 Secretpipe: but maybe the mapper don't wanted to put a looot of jump !
00:56 Secretpipe: Definitely agree
00:57 Secretpipe: I'll ask Desperate-kun , he mapped the end
00:57 Secretpipe: Also
00:57 Secretpipe: For the soft-sliderside
00:58 Secretpipe: For use it , I have to change greenlines !
00:58 Secretpipe: ?*
00:59 grumd: that little sound
01:00 grumd: is used all the time S:C1 is activated
01:00 grumd: so if you put S:C1 it will work after such green line
01:00 Secretpipe: yay ! I was right !
01:00 grumd: S:C2 is for soft2-sliderslide etc i think
01:00 grumd: S is for default
01:00 Secretpipe: yeah
01:01 Secretpipe: soft stuff
01:01 grumd: yep
01:01 grumd: maybe you would like to put storyboard with collaber names?
01:01 Secretpipe: Yeah
01:01 Secretpipe: Damnae wanted to do this
01:01 grumd: damnae? lol
01:01 Secretpipe: But he give up
01:01 Secretpipe: GUESS WHY
01:01 Secretpipe: xD
01:01 grumd: best storyboarder which i know
01:01 grumd: because katty?
01:01 Secretpipe: yeah , we're good friend
01:01 Secretpipe: Yes
01:01 Secretpipe: xD
01:02 Secretpipe: but offline atm
01:02 grumd: Hard
01:02 grumd: 00:44:241 (1) -
01:03 grumd: this is unrankable :3
01:03 Secretpipe: I knew it
01:03 grumd: fixxxx
01:03 Secretpipe: Yes !
01:03 Secretpipe: I'll do it
01:03 Secretpipe: more basic
01:03 grumd: 01:34:298 (4) - also what the fuck
01:04 grumd: use two points for the slider end
01:04 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VEQF.jpg
01:04 Secretpipe: Wanted to add more originality xD I never do that before
01:05 grumd: that's not originality but a crap
)))01:05 grumd: rly
01:05 grumd: it does nothing but making the slider look uneven
01:05 Secretpipe: Yeah
01:05 grumd: 02:09:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this it too hard. so much 1/2 in a row is sometimes hard to click and will make many people fail
01:05 grumd: just add few sliders please
01:05 Secretpipe: Yeah , it's not my part here !
01:06 Secretpipe: I'd add a spinner
01:06 grumd: 02:11:327 (3) - didn't see any 1/4 before, strange
01:06 grumd: spinner? idk
01:07 Secretpipe: ²yeah
01:07 Secretpipe: some sliders would be awesome indeed !
01:07 grumd: ²²²²²²²²²²
01:07 *grumd is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/442245 Subformat - More (feat Charli Brix) [Normal]]
01:07 grumd: 01:28:127 (1) -
01:07 Secretpipe: my keyboard sucks orz
01:07 grumd: this is too close after spinner
01:07 grumd: this is not allowed in Normal and Easy
01:07 Secretpipe: wow , nothing else in the Hard ?
01:07 grumd: you must have a break between spinner and a circle
01:07 grumd: i'm not modding like the shit our of it
01:08 grumd: just giving basic advices
01:08 grumd: on important things
01:08 Secretpipe: haha x) I see!
01:08 grumd: wow, second half of the kiai looks pretty hard
01:08 grumd: you added many rhythms
01:08 grumd: it was 1/1 all the time before
01:08 Secretpipe: maybe I can stop the spinner a bit earlier
01:09 grumd: 02:01:727 (3,4,5) - that's pretty hard as well
01:09 grumd: you should make Normal less complicated in terms of rhythm in this part
01:09 grumd: triples is cool but not that strange stuff
01:09 grumd: it fits the music but may be hard for newbie players
01:10 grumd: you know it's the easiest diff
01:11 Secretpipe: hm
01:11 Secretpipe: Should I extend (2) ?
01:11 grumd: i know
01:11 Secretpipe: I mean (3)
01:11 grumd: look
01:11 grumd: 01:50:070 (1,2,3) -
01:11 grumd: just replace a triple with a slider
01:12 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFtP.jpg
01:12 grumd: it makes all the stuff really easier (without that streams
01:12 grumd: )
01:12 grumd: and still keeps the rhythm
01:12 grumd: just make it like that in all similar patterns
01:12 grumd: with of course
01:12 Secretpipe: 01:50:070 (1,2,3) - So , this is a good rhythmic pattern ?
01:12 grumd: variety of palcement
01:12 Secretpipe: yeah
01:12 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFtP.jpg
01:12 grumd: this is
01:12 grumd: a good pattern
01:13 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFza.jpg
01:13 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFzM.jpg
01:13 grumd: http://puu.sh/9VFAf.jpg
01:13 Secretpipe: 1/2 mapping ? =p
01:13 grumd: you can do many variations
01:13 Secretpipe: yeah
01:13 Secretpipe: It's why I added some variated sliders
01:13 grumd: yeah
01:13 grumd: seen
01:13 Secretpipe: I wanted to add some originality !
01:14 grumd: just make it a bit easier and it's good
01:14 grumd: gj
01:14 Secretpipe: :3
01:15 Secretpipe: Also
01:15 Secretpipe: 00:58:984 (1,2,3,4) -
01:15 Secretpipe: Is it a good placement ?
01:15 grumd: 01:59:670 (3,4,5) - this can be variated as this http://puu.sh/9VFLZ.jpg
01:16 Secretpipe: I can make a better square also
01:16 grumd: well it's actually not good
01:16 grumd: placement
01:16 grumd: but i didn't mind
01:16 grumd: the rhythm in that part is bad overall
01:16 grumd: you should have payed more attention to vocals
01:17 Secretpipe: yeah o.o
01:18 Secretpipe: anything else ?
01:18 Secretpipe: I wrote some things on a paper !
01:18 grumd: nah
01:18 Secretpipe: yay , I just hope it's good enough for a first time mapping with vocals !
01:18 Secretpipe: Go post the log , I'll KD you !
01:18 grumd: eeeeeeeeeeeh
01:19 grumd: kudosus suck
hi
just added some basic adviced on the important things
Topic Starter
Thanks for the awesome mod !
I'll call the mappers for improve the quality of the mapset !
I'll try tomorrow to fix the rhythm mistakes also !
I'll call the mappers for improve the quality of the mapset !
I'll try tomorrow to fix the rhythm mistakes also !
Topic Starter
Yeah but it's Mao's part so I wanted to ask him first !
And I dunno if grumd was trolling lol ! Why did he post a bubble.png ?xD
And I dunno if grumd was trolling lol ! Why did he post a bubble.png ?xD
Applied pretty much everything grumd mentioned. Changed DS, improved flow, re-arranged a couple of patterns.
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Topic Starter
Fixed some things on Normal and Hard !
SB names added on Collab Insane tho !
Please Re-DL !
SB names added on Collab Insane tho !
Please Re-DL !
its amazing good luck on ranking.
Good luck with the ranking of your map.
Topic Starter
Thanks Gabe \o3o/Gabe wrote:
Good luck with the ranking of your map.
Amazing mapset! I spotted no issues with the mapset.
Therefore I decided to give this map a chance! Map bubbled!
Therefore I decided to give this map a chance! Map bubbled!
Topic Starter
BeatofIke wrote:
Amazing mapset! I spotted no issues with the mapset.
Therefore I decided to give this map a chance! Map bubbled!
Thank you Ike <3
Woohoo Ike o/
Only briefly looked at the normal and I know I'd pop over those notes after spinners. Give more recovery time.
[General]
Really minor, but please add a period after feat. -> (feat. Charli Brix)
[Normal]
Insane has the tag "Collab" but this doesn't?
00:48:870 (3,4) - Any reason in particular on why this breaks spacing and the rest of the part doesn't?
01:16:470 (3,4) - I believe this should be parallel?
01:44:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pretty sure this combo can be structured better to be easier to read/more flexible to play.
01:50:584 (2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these four notes be used to place emphasis on the synth? (currently 3,4,5,1)
02:18:013 (2) - How about this?
02:19:384 (2) - This doesn't fit with the music.
[Insane]
02:26:927 (1,2,3,4,5) - Remove 5, move the entire combo to begin on white tick.
02:28:470 (1) - Bridging from the above statement, this can now follow the same slider position as 1,3.
To elaborate, 5 in its current state doesn't flow well. It leaves the player expecting another slider but is left with a note to go into another combo.
Really minor, but please add a period after feat. -> (feat. Charli Brix)
[Normal]
[Hard]Garven wrote:
Only briefly looked at the normal and I know I'd pop over those notes after spinners. Give more recovery time.
Insane has the tag "Collab" but this doesn't?
00:48:870 (3,4) - Any reason in particular on why this breaks spacing and the rest of the part doesn't?
01:16:470 (3,4) - I believe this should be parallel?
01:44:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pretty sure this combo can be structured better to be easier to read/more flexible to play.
01:50:584 (2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these four notes be used to place emphasis on the synth? (currently 3,4,5,1)
02:18:013 (2) - How about this?
02:19:384 (2) - This doesn't fit with the music.
[Insane]
02:26:927 (1,2,3,4,5) - Remove 5, move the entire combo to begin on white tick.
02:28:470 (1) - Bridging from the above statement, this can now follow the same slider position as 1,3.
To elaborate, 5 in its current state doesn't flow well. It leaves the player expecting another slider but is left with a note to go into another combo.
[Insane]
- A common problem with collaborations where each mapper only gets one part is that if you pass that thin line that separates each of your mapping preferences, you end up with something like this - five 20 second maps of a relative difficulty level played back to back. Transitions between each mapper's parts have to be better thought out, and I can come up with some suggestions if you need it.
- 01:01:384 (3) - The length of this slider effectively makes the spacing of (3,1,2) very uncomfortable. The cursor just hangs at (3) with no clear direction since (1) is 3/2 away from the start of (3). A possible solution could be to reverse (3) and add (4) around 400;345.
- 01:04:641 (5) - The cursor hangs here too, but much, much more awkwardly due to the low spacing of (5,1).
- 01:24:698 (4,5) - These feel like they're in this shape just because you want them to be in this shape. It provides no cohesion; much better if you simply remove the anchors from both of them.
- 01:27:784 (1) - The right pattern would be to space this at 1.60x. Otherwise, remove the new combo. You'll also want to add a Clap here to mark the high end of the cadence; without it, the hitsounds kinda go somewhere but nowhere.
- 01:34:898 (6) - Unnecessary, has a random feel to it, since you don't do this anywhere else. Also the music doesn't suggest that you map a circle here.
- 02:24:870 (2) - After you play this, the cursor hangs with nothing to do. Fill the next white in.
- 02:27:613 (3) - Unexpected is probably the only fair word to explain this. Since each one of you in this want to kinda do your own thing, this leads to my next piece of advice:
When you're doing a collab, an important thing to remember is to try to find a way for your way of mapping to complement a previous mapper's mapping. For example, 02:27:613 (3) - can be avoided if you instead approached this section similar to the part starting 01:03:270 (1) - .
This can be difficult if the mapper(s) before you didn't do any planning, since it is likely difficult to try to transition from something that appears to be random.
Topic Starter
Fixed the spinners on Normal and fixed all with Kenterz on Hard ! We're waiting for Mao's part !
Thanks a lot dkun for modding !
Also , a huge thanks to those who modded the Insane as well !
Thanks a lot dkun for modding !
Also , a huge thanks to those who modded the Insane as well !
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dkun wrote:
[Insane]
02:26:927 (1,2,3,4,5) - Remove 5, move the entire combo to begin on white tick.
02:28:470 (1) - Bridging from the above statement, this can now follow the same slider position as 1,3.
To elaborate, 5 in its current state doesn't flow well. It leaves the player expecting another slider but is left with a note to go into another combo.
What you wrote about the rhythm would mess up the rhythm completely. We've been all following vocals throughout the collab (we even used red-tick-sliders ending on the big white line to do this), so not doing it here would break the consistency completely. Also, I disagreed that the player expects another slider. I understand what you mean, but then every pattern like star patterns or squares or something else should continue until infinity, you always expect it to go on. The transition 02:28:127 (4,5,1) was breaking the flow a bit, that's right, but many patterns that are used to emphasize things these days break the flow, that's what they are supposed to do. Anything with harsh direction changes in it breaks the flow in my opinion, but it's meant to do it and it feels fitting when used on the correct beats of the song. This here is representing the pick-up to the following measure and that is usually pretty emphasized stuff so I decided to go with it like it was. Also, I don't even know if you can talk about "excepting" a slider here, since there was enough time-space to read this properly for Insane players.
Anyways, I changed this pattern completely (made something different) due to many people disagreeing with it.
Thank you for the good mods, I really appreciate it. This was not meant to be offensive, and if it is, I'm very sorry honestly.those wrote:
[Insane]
- A common problem with collaborations where each mapper only gets one part is that if you pass that thin line that separates each of your mapping preferences, you end up with something like this - five 20 second maps of a relative difficulty level played back to back. Transitions between each mapper's parts have to be better thought out, and I can come up with some suggestions if you need it. Other collabs mostly use breaks as transitions or spinners. That was not really possible here. And if you look at other collabs where the parts directly follow each other, you'll see it's the same or worse than here. For specifics:
01:05:841 (3,1) - Stacked. And it's completely intuitive; anti-jumps have been used before.
01:27:784 (1,1) - I think the low spacing fits the song perfectly. The small flow break, to slow down here, fits the sudden gap after the stream perfectly. The song kind of implicates this flow break
01:49:727 (5,1,2) - Basic movement in combination with a harsh direction change to emphasize the start of the new section more
02:11:670 (7,1) - Pretty basic movement as well. We could argue about the movement to the right after (7) now, which is intuitive in my opinion, since a clockwise movement after 02:11:498 (6,7) is natural, but I just changed the position of this slider 02:12:013 (1) to be placed more upwards from (7) instead of at the right.- 02:24:870 (2) - After you play this, the cursor hangs with nothing to do. Fill the next white in. Well, it seems to be that you have problems with some kinds of anti-jumps (as you also pointed out similiar things in the other parts), but they've been getting common since 2012 and I think they have an awesome effect on the movement of the player, especially when a white tick, which you'd expect to be the most emphasized in most music, is left out. And if I mapped that white tick as you suggested, it would kind of break my rhythm consistency here, since I rarely mapped those white ticks when the vocals weren't there.
- 02:27:613 (3) - Unexpected is probably the only fair word to explain this. Already fixed with dkun's mod, maybe you could read that wall of text (not really) as well.
Since each one of you in this want to kinda do your own thing, this leads to my next piece of advice:
When you're doing a collab, an important thing to remember is to try to find a way for your way of mapping to complement a previous mapper's mapping. For example, 02:27:613 (3) - can be avoided if you instead approached this section similar to the part starting 01:03:270 (1) - .
This can be difficult if the mapper(s) before you didn't do any planning, since it is likely difficult to try to transition from something that appears to be random.
It makes me kind of sad that you wrote this referring to my section. Consistency is a very important thing, probably the most important one when mapping, and I focus much on this when modding. Before I mapped my part, I looked at the other parts and tried to understand the aspects of mapping that the others used there.
Most important thing for me was that they have often followed vocals. Normally I don't use sliders which end on the big white line, since they break the stanza a bit and don't follow the drums well. Here I didn't use my style for rhythm, but instead I used the one that was applied throughout the collab.
Then usually, my maps flow much different than this part. I tried to implement the feeling that was used before more.
Then, I didn't use nearly as much straight sliders as I use normally.
I didn't use as much symmetry as I use normally.
I didn't use as many jumps as I'd normally do for such a section in the song, instead I used a pretty high spacing but less jumps.
I tried to NC it like the others did with their parts.
Basically, I changed my style really much to fit as good as possible in this collab.
But you say that I don't "find a way for your way of mapping to complement a previous mapper's mapping", because I used a repeating pattern together with some overlaps for readability (because if I'd stack these it would be unreadable)
I thought the song was kind of special for that part, because of the rhythmic-repeated emphasized vocals, so I decided to use something like this.
Anyways, it is changed now, so everybody should be happy hopefully ;w;
Also fixing Riki's part, since he's away~
those wrote:
[Insane]
- 01:24:698 (4,5) - These feel like they're in this shape just because you want them to be in this shape. It provides no cohesion; much better if you simply remove the anchors from both of them. Changed
- 01:27:784 (1) - The right pattern would be to space this at 1.60x. Otherwise, remove the new combo. You'll also want to add a Clap here to mark the high end of the cadence; without it, the hitsounds kinda go somewhere but nowhere. Removed NC and added clap
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Thanks for the mod those ^^!
Mod changes
[quote="those"]
01:01:384 (3) - The length of this slider effectively makes the spacing of (3,1,2) very uncomfortable. The cursor just hangs at (3) with no clear direction since (1) is 3/2 away from the start of (3). A possible solution could be to reverse (3) and add (4) around 400;345. I made the slider into a repeat slider and moved it a bit
01:04:641 (5) - The cursor hangs here too, but much, much more awkwardly due to the low spacing of (5,1). This antijump is intentional and is made to emphasize the synth sounds
01:01:384 (3) - The length of this slider effectively makes the spacing of (3,1,2) very uncomfortable. The cursor just hangs at (3) with no clear direction since (1) is 3/2 away from the start of (3). A possible solution could be to reverse (3) and add (4) around 400;345. I made the slider into a repeat slider and moved it a bit
01:04:641 (5) - The cursor hangs here too, but much, much more awkwardly due to the low spacing of (5,1). This antijump is intentional and is made to emphasize the synth sounds
Thanks for the Mod <3dkun wrote:
02:18:013 (2) - How about this? k
02:19:384 (2) - This doesn't fit with the music. I'm sure it fits the music here. The 1/4 is in the music and it was intuitive to me :/ And it was also mapped in the Insane by someone else after I've mapped it so there are other people agreeing with me on that. :<
Code
223,253,138013,1,2,0:2:0:0:
132,324,138184,2,0,L|48:312,1,80
Thank you <3dkun wrote:
[Hard]
00:48:870 (3,4) - Any reason in particular on why this breaks spacing and the rest of the part doesn't? Nope, fixed
01:16:470 (3,4) - I believe this should be parallel? Fixed
01:50:584 (2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't these four notes be used to place emphasis on the synth? (currently 3,4,5,1) It seems better, Fixed
Topic Starter
Everything updated ! :3
Thank you for pointing that overmapped beat out, fixed that! @those
To quickly elaborate:
This is an anti-jump. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/177916
This is an anti-jump. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/417232
What's common between these two is that there's no pause between the two objects. Much like in a jump, there isn't a pause before you make a jump, and naturally, there isn't a pause before you make an anti-jump. What you have in your map is an awkward break, and causes the cursor to hang uncomfortably. I can help you think of better alternatives, if you need the help.
This is an anti-jump. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/177916
This is an anti-jump. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/417232
What's common between these two is that there's no pause between the two objects. Much like in a jump, there isn't a pause before you make a jump, and naturally, there isn't a pause before you make an anti-jump. What you have in your map is an awkward break, and causes the cursor to hang uncomfortably. I can help you think of better alternatives, if you need the help.
Well, the thing we are using here is a pretty common mapping technique I guess...
There are also the SeibeiStyle Anti-Jumps which is way closer to the stuff in the Diff:
And that should be what we are doing here; Having a low DS (stack in our case) but a 1/1 Gap on the timeline.
There are also the SeibeiStyle Anti-Jumps which is way closer to the stuff in the Diff:
As we can read in the quote this kind of Anti-Jump describes a low spaced/spaced as it was 1/2 or less Object having a bigger distance on the timeline.
Nominated by Seibei4211. Consists of a beat stream with a few beats with the same spacing further apart on the timeline than the others in the same combo.
And that should be what we are doing here; Having a low DS (stack in our case) but a 1/1 Gap on the timeline.
But that spacing is still nonzero, which gives the cursor the ability to decelerate (transition) into a lower speed.