this map finaly got ranked...
that took long enough...
congratz HW!
that took long enough...
congratz HW!
Loctav where are youLoctav wrote:
The sole fact that you disregard the issues filed by the Quality Assurance Team as "this is just an opinion" makes me believe, that you forgot most portions of the very nice conversation we two once had.
You may think that "everyone has a different opinion", this is totally fine. But please consider, osu! is an online-game, moderated and maintained by the osu! staff. A "ranked beatmap" is no more and no less than a beatmap that is considered as "good to go by the osu!staff and therefore labeled as official osu! beatmap, granting it full online features and being counted into our official ranking algorithms". The QAT belongs to this staff. The QAT is entitled to decide, whether or not a beatmap should or should not be part of the "official osu! beatmaps". You are free to decide on your own, if you want to join these bunch of "official beatmaps" or not. But if you want to join them, you must meet our very subjective criteria of what is good and what not.
The QAT is entitled by the higher osu! staff to decide on their very own degree on that.
You all take this entire "joining the ranks of osu!'s official beatmap roster" for granted, even tho it's a privilege. It is fairly easy to join if you please the simple quality standards we hold up here, but you also risk to not join this ranks if you overdo it (according to this Disqualification post, this is the case).
As MilhioreF said, you are still free to map and do whatever you want. Poop all the circles across the playfield, go for it! But if we do not want this beatmaps to count into our official ranking algorithms, because we consider them as not "good enough", you have to deal with it.
You can stop arguing about what is subjective, what is objective, what is intersubjective and what would the map may look like if mapped by sprosive. That doesn't really matter at all. The Ranking Criteria itself is a formal guideline of "fundamental rules" that MUST be hold in in all circumstances. Everything else is on a "case by case" basis. This does NOT MEAN that mapping must ONLY obey the RC and nothing else. You still must map reasonable.
I looked on this map - and top tier players may like it, but as TicClick stated, this is NOT what we expect to join our official osu! rankings yet. It is unpolished, it is overdone, the music is not complimenting the map sufficiently (no one said, it must be a 1:1 copy of the music, but the degree it is syncing and pleasing the music is subpar).
And Hollow Wings, we discussed that already. You seem to forget partially that this is a game, after all. And I do not know who you let testplay, but I suggest you to find more testplayers, especially ones that do not run around your skirt and yell "oooh, HW-sama, you do so great", because that's how many people here talk. They lack of serious criticism.
If you fail to map beatmaps reasonably and stop trying to squeeze an abomination chimera of the big black, freedom dive and strange program on a 173bpm e-guitaresque song, where every normal person would use like 45% of the sum of all hitobjects used here instead, please do not try to get them approved - or at least don't be so pissed and butthurt about it, if you can not make it into the "Official osu! beatmaps".
If you continue to ignore this advise, this beatmap will be nuked. I won't repeat myself again.
Locked for now. PM me if you want to reply to this.
And please stop using "coz" "u" and "plz". Your English is already very difficult to read. Using fancy, pseudo-fluent abbreviations makes it look stupid. Just an advise from friend to friend :C
I didnt care before, but now its quite tempting. Thanks for.the heads up, Woddles.Woddles wrote:
garven dont you dare
Wow I guess reverse psychology actually does work :^)Garven wrote:
I didnt care before, but now its quite tempting. Thanks for.the heads up, Woddles.Woddles wrote:
garven dont you dare
AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Thank you and start mapping HW, stop copypaste
I saw this kind of post comingAsh Marley wrote:
Amai, you don't need to play it if you don't like it or are unable to FC it.
This is a map that many many people really like and wanted to be ranked, even when they know they can't pass it. This is a game, and games are played for the enjoyment. If you can't FC it, then so what? Lower difficulties can be made. Rhythm games should always have crazy hard maps.
this post is to show my (and not only) opinion about this map and perhaps some others which have been ranked recently.saying the constantly-repeated "if you don't like it, don't do it" phrase is out of place.
3/4 of maps are like thisAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
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can pass =/= can playAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
How can you like a map you can't play?Ash Marley wrote:
This is a map that many many people really like and wanted to be ranked, even when they know they can't pass it. This is a game, and games are played for the enjoyment.
If you have enough skill, being lucky is not requirement.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
but ranking a map where luck is required the most in order to get a full combo is unnecessary. I could even say it's plain wrong. Ranking introduces some kind of competition, but the competition in this case is as fair as watermelon splitting contest.
Beatmap Nominators are asking for testplays/opinions good players if they can't play the map (if not, they should lol, but I believe they do o.o)AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
What I'd like to ask is to put more heart into such maps and possibly cooperate with more over-average players. Call me an elitist, but I can't possibly trust that 6+ star should be ranked so easily when among beatmap nominators there are less than 5 capable players (who would at least pass this map here, for instance).
I'm strongly against maps which are ranked because hype.... hype led by people who know nothing about the game and mapping.
it's hard because you never dedicate yourself to mapping. If you do map, you'd understand that this is ridiculous. Stop crying over judgements, you're obviously a child if you really think judging is wrong. Judging is what humans do to excel and it's HILARIOUS to think that you won't get judgements or criticism from publishing something, even a map in a rhythm game.Alex Li wrote:
iif u don't like the map plz just vote 1 and don't play it
Plz don't judge the mapper
Mapping is a hard thing, and mappers put a lot of effort in every map, specially this mapper
Talking about FCing things and enjoyment.. Enjoyment is a very subjective matter, bringing that is definitely a no, and even if he can't FC it, what makes you think that he shouldn't criticize on the map and express what he believes in? You have 4 times less PP than him so don't talk about difficulty with him because you're in no way experienced enough to touch on this subject... He's seen and played more terrible maps than you do. I agree that rhythm games should always have crazy maps but not forced ones like this map.Ash Marley wrote:
Amai, you don't need to play it if you don't like it or are unable to FC it.
This is a map that many many people really like and wanted to be ranked, even when they know they can't pass it. This is a game, and games are played for the enjoyment. If you can't FC it, then so what? Lower difficulties can be made. Rhythm games should always have crazy hard maps.
you're obviously a child like you mention,just like a crazy always criticise.stop shitting post and get out plz jk[ Madoka ] wrote:
it's hard because you never dedicate yourself to mapping. If you do map, you'd understand that this is ridiculous. Stop crying over judgements, you're obviously a child if you really think judging is wrong. Judging is what humans do to excel and it's HILARIOUS to think that you won't get judgements or criticism from publishing something, even a map in a rhythm game.