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Natteke desu

Joined August 2012

Natteke desu 2014-11-04T23:03:32+00:00

fixed second thing from SNB's mod, well, i can hear that 1/3s here, it's not really strong one but still exists
nothing from imoutosan's because i don't liked how it looks tbh
И все кроме од из мода Тика, ну оно как-то там не подходит, по моему мнению

SPOILER

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35,234,180930,1,2,0:1:0:0:
109,297,181111,6,0,P|199:290|248:352,1,159.999995117188,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
13,384,181657,2,0,P|6:342|5:302,1,79.9999975585938,4|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
31,176,182020,1,4,3:0:0:0:
110,297,182202,2,0,P|117:255|118:215,1,79.9999975585938,4|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,89,182565,1,4,3:0:0:0:
11,222,182748,2,0,P|4:182|2:142,1,79.9999975585938,4|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
29,14,183111,1,4,3:0:0:0:
198,70,183293,22,0,B|299:41|248:104|371:66,1,159.999995117188,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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364,269,184202,1,2,0:1:0:0:
471,340,184384,2,0,L|489:179,1,159.999995117188,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
463,19,184930,1,4,1:2:0:0:
463,19,185293,5,4,3:0:0:0:
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198,196,186566,2,0,L|-2:166,1,159.999995117188,0|4,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
299,139,187111,2,0,L|499:169,1,159.999995117188,4|4,1:2|3:0,0:0:0:0:
119,287,187657,5,4,1:0:0:0:
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155,370,188566,1,2,0:1:0:0:
40,323,188748,2,0,B|6:239|72:251|23:150,1,159.999995117188,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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311,305,190930,2,0,P|321:266|319:226,2,79.9999975585938,4|2|2,3:0|0:1|0:1,0:0:0:0:
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371,373,192202,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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482,319,192566,1,4,3:0:0:0:
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459,295,192930,1,2,0:1:0:0:
345,244,193111,1,4,3:0:0:0:
364,229,193293,1,2,0:1:0:0:
383,214,193475,1,2,0:1:0:0:
472,169,193657,6,0,L|288:189,1,159.999995117188,4|2,3:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
187,368,194202,2,0,L|371:348,1,159.999995117188,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,170,194748,2,0,L|-10:190,1,159.999995117188,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,296,195293,1,4,3:0:0:0:
132,278,195475,1,0,1:0:0:0:
210,263,195657,1,0,1:0:0:0:
491,329,195839,2,0,L|510:127,1,200.000007629395,6|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,87,196384,6,0,L|252:250,1,159.999995117188,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,168,196930,2,0,L|390:34,1,79.9999975585938,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
346,262,197293,1,2,0:1:0:0:
296,59,197475,2,0,P|208:33|116:67,1,159.999995117188,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,186,198020,1,4,1:2:0:0:
230,175,198202,1,0,0:0:0:0:
44,102,198384,1,2,0:1:0:0:
164,263,198566,6,0,L|349:248,1,159.999995117188,0|2,1:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
206,153,199111,1,4,1:2:0:0:
277,344,199293,1,0,3:0:0:0:
345,121,199475,1,4,3:0:0:0:
214,260,199657,2,0,P|130:232|111:143,1,159.999995117188,0|4,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
160,27,200202,1,4,1:2:0:0:
237,158,200384,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,93,200566,1,4,3:0:0:0:
308,103,200748,6,0,P|388:107|463:51,1,159.999995117188,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,191,201293,2,0,P|224:188|184:161,1,79.9999975585938,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
362,27,201657,1,2,0:1:0:0:
424,198,201839,2,0,L|406:360,1,159.999995117188,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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198,21,202748,1,2,0:1:0:0:
101,178,202930,22,0,P|86:104|20:35,1,159.999995117188,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
109,280,203475,2,0,P|137:322|197:340,1,79.9999975585938,4|2,1:2|0:1,0:0:0:0:
330,286,203839,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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301,92,205657,2,0,P|303:149|284:194,1,79.9999975585938,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
170,85,206020,1,2,0:1:0:0:
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117,358,206748,2,0,P|127:311|126:260,1,79.9999975585938,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
91,131,207111,1,2,0:1:0:0:
290,196,207293,6,0,P|357:156|460:164,1,159.999995117188,2|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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428,86,208748,1,4,3:0:0:0:
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481,221,209475,1,4,1:0:0:0:
493,237,210566,21,4,1:0:0:0:
503,258,211657,5,4,1:0:0:0:
256,192,211839,12,4,213839,0:0:0:0:

grumd

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grumd 2014-11-04T23:33:03+00:00

Неожиданный мод от Тика, привет-привет. И большое спасибо :3

"TicClick"

[Generall]

Видео весит очень много. Попроси кого-нибудь ужать: Lach blissfulyoshi в процессе
3 и 4 цвета очень похожи, сделай один из них более циановым (но умоляю, НЕ бледным) сделал. вообще немного изменил цвета

[Insane]

00:53:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - дисбаланс по сравнению с коллабом, либо попроси автора соответствующей части влепить это туда, либо вырежи отсюда, поменяв на повторяющиеся слайдеры всегда эта часть не нравилась, изначально не было тут стримов, какой-то моддер посоветовал. с ДТ очень плохо играется оно. поставил тут слайдеры

[Hard]
CS больше, чем у медиума больше = сложнее, вроде всё ок
1. 01:04:384 (1,2,1) - не очень удобное место. Фиксится реверсом 2 и отражением 1 по вертикали. Спейсинг и угол сам подгонишь: http://puu.sh/cDjY9/0bea2d9eff.jpg вот тут не понимаю, почему не очень удобное место. выглядит всё ок
2. 01:21:293 (4) - чуть вправо подвинь, иначе начинает уходить за край при 4:3 теперь выглядит хуйпоймикак, но да, исправил
3. 01:30:020 (2) - чуть поближе к прошлому для баланса не знаю, как там было, сейчас 01:29:293 (3,1,2) - это чёткий треугольник
4. 02:43:111 (3) - чуть поближе к прошлому, пожалуйста. 1.5 хватит ну не знаю, тут везде полно джампов и по 2.0 и ничего страшного. сделал чутка меньше тут. 1.5 выглядит совсем мало, 1.7 оставил
5. 02:47:475 (2) - а тут — 1.7 я специально вставляю джампы между слайдерами с повторами, чтобы джампы слишком близко не были к стримам. не думаю, что тут большая проблема. но опять же на 0.1-0.2 меньше сделал на всякий случай. сделать 1.7 просто не могу из-за паттерна
[Medium]
1. 01:40:930 (2) - округлый красивей выглядит а мне такой нравится подходит к предыдущему. ну хз, дело вкуса
2. 03:03:293 (1,1) - коварный момент, даже несмотря на нк. Я бы стакнул вторую единичку со следующим слайдером
3. 03:21:111 (1) - ииии аналогично. Пусть это не нормал и не изи, такое лучше приберечь для дифок повыше
  симс легит, но я просто сделал из этих двух обычный мануал стак вместо того, что было. поставил, считай, один на второй. это должно быть вполне обычным паттерном
[Normal]
1. 01:02:566 (2) - я бы не ставил. Звук подразумевается, но его нет, могут промахнуться а могут и не промахнуться
  01:06:930 - раз уж тут не поставил, то и здесь уберу
2. 01:27:293 (1,2) - не надо резко менять ритм, лучше верни, как было вокруг: http://puu.sh/cDlhh/78fda6c942.jpg
  длинный слайдер хотел оставить, но сделал ритм более похожим на вокруг
3. 02:34:384 (4) - ужасный глухой звук. Верни нормал + софт финиш! Это не единственное место, кстати
  элвис делал хс и я вообще мало слышу подобные вещи. в эдиторе видно, что нормал+софт финиш звучат чуть лучше, но не будет ли однообразно? да и этих хс уже вагон целый, всё менять я запарюсь)
4. 02:45:293 (4) - свисток не в тему, вот если бы он был на треть раньше.. может, случайно вставил. не должно быть свистка и финиша одновременно
[Easy]
1. 00:39:293 (1) - продли, на нижних дифках лучше не делать оффбит, потому что его будет очень мало, и он будет бессмысленно выделяться, сбивая с толку. Лучше использовать полную длину
2. 01:49:111 (6) - нк? Хотя тут хорошо так уходит практически в точку змейка из нот я ставил тут нк во всех предыдущих дифках, пока читал мод, но сейчас решил убрать их везде, кроме коллаба. таки вот так
3. 02:08:748 (3, 5) - я бы так много подряд не ставил, расстановка комбо сбивается (алсо, этот кусочек на редкость беден на новые комбо, добавь парочку, пусть даже не на больших белых) насчёт много подряд проблем не вижу, а вот комбо надо бы добавить
4. 02:34:384 (2) - и опять глухие барабаны ну они должны бас подчёркивать или ещё что-то такое :с

красотааааааааа
напиши, когда будет готово напишу, когда видео будет

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-11-05T12:11:23+00:00

22 < 24. Ура!

grumd

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grumd 2014-11-05T17:31:32+00:00

TicClick wrote:
22 < 24. Ура!

спасибо-спасибо-спасибо

немножко ужали размер видео, в основном благодаря тому, что в старом видео я не вырезал аудио (похоже, мне совсем плевать было). и я очень горжусь тем, что lach смог сделать 720р, теперь видяшка вообще красиво смотрится очень.

и ещё раз спасибо

Natteke desu

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Natteke desu 2014-11-06T15:56:57+00:00

а еще напиши чей коллаб плез, вдруг я забуду

Aka

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Aka 2014-11-06T16:51:37+00:00

я тоже могу забыть, да

grumd

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grumd 2014-11-06T17:35:58+00:00

EvilElvis wrote:
а еще напиши чей коллаб плез, вдруг я забуду

Aka wrote:
я тоже могу забыть, да

только плакать тут не надо

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Aka 2014-11-06T17:49:38+00:00

03:03:293 (1) - 03:13:657 (1) - 03:22:930 (1) - 03:30:566 (1) - в коллабе серыекомбоцвета появились, должны быть только на слоудауновских слайдерах, пофикси перед ранком

grumd

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grumd 2014-11-06T18:24:11+00:00

Aka wrote:
03:03:293 (1) - 03:13:657 (1) - 03:22:930 (1) - 03:30:566 (1) - в коллабе серыекомбоцвета появились, должны быть только на слоудауновских слайдерах, пофикси перед ранком

почему-то одно нк куда-то пропало, я его вернул и цвета встали в норму, спасиб

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TicClick 2014-11-07T16:59:38+00:00

rebubbled after background change and a small colorhax fix

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2014-11-08T19:25:38+00:00

Hi there o/ Checking bubbled map!

[Easy]

01:47:475 (3,4,5,6) - Although the distance between each notes is equal in the timeline , the spacing is decreasing for none reason. Consider to fix it cause it could be hard for beginners to play it.
02:08:202 (2) - About the same thing here too. Consider to fix the spacing :3
02:24:020 (1) - I guess it's fine for this note but try to avoid these stacked notes cause of the spread.
03:03:839 (1,3) - Maybe consider to add some symmetry for keeping some variety in your diff :3
03:08:748 (2,4) - Eh , I think this overlap can be confusing for beginners.

[Normal]

01:08:202 (2) - This stack is breaking the flow in my opinion. You may move it anywhere.
01:12:566 (2,3) - Not gonna critic cause of my mapping style dw but feels like the curves aren't fitting well for readeability here.
01:24:020 (3) - Same as 01:08:202 (2) - . You may move this object further.
01:43:657 (3,4) - Feels like you could fill the timeline with a slider instead of two circles. It'll perfectly match the rhythm imo!
02:52:930 (2,3) - Same as 01:12:566 (2,3) - , these overlaps hurts.
02:56:748 (1) - Cmon , you could do a better sliderwave :p
03:04:930 (4,1) - it hurts D:

[Medium]

Feels like the diff name is inconsistent with other diffs ;~; I remember Priti's thread about this topic. Can't found the link
Otherwise , great diff!

Also , I'm a bit annoyed of the Collab cause I think there's some rhythm issues but I guess it's fine.

Call me back after you fix these things o/

grumd

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grumd 2014-11-08T23:04:47+00:00

Secretpipe

Hi there o/ Checking bubbled map!

[Easy]

01:47:475 (3,4,5,6) - Although the distance between each notes is equal in the timeline , the spacing is decreasing for none reason. Consider to fix it cause it could be hard for beginners to play it. "none reason" is wrong, the reason is the music pitch and volme decreasing. i've changed it to slider pattern with less spacing changes to make it easier to play though
02:08:202 (2) - About the same thing here too. Consider to fix the spacing :3 ohh you caught me, my mistake
02:24:020 (1) - I guess it's fine for this note but try to avoid these stacked notes cause of the spread. i don't see a stack here..
03:03:839 (1,3) - Maybe consider to add some symmetry for keeping some variety in your diff :3 that's my own type of symmetry
03:08:748 (2,4) - Eh , I think this overlap can be confusing for beginners. it will not be. because the (2) disappears even earlier than you hit (3). not even saying that a plenty of time has passed before you have to hit (4)

[Normal]

01:08:202 (2) - This stack is breaking the flow in my opinion. You may move it anywhere. i placed it to add a bit of variety here. will be boring without stacks
01:12:566 (2,3) - Not gonna critic cause of my mapping style dw but feels like the curves aren't fitting well for readeability here. yeah, you're right, readability sucks because this shit is too cluttered. changed pattern. (if you'll be checking: i can't stack (4) on (1) end because of 1.0x spacing
01:24:020 (3) - Same as 01:08:202 (2) - . You may move this object further. i don't want to remove all the stacks since i like em
01:43:657 (3,4) - Feels like you could fill the timeline with a slider instead of two circles. It'll perfectly match the rhythm imo! again: it's for the variety. i don't want this map to be all the same shit all over. so i'm making some variety in the patterns. it doesn't make the rhythm 10 times worse, so it's fine as long as it fits
02:52:930 (2,3) - Same as 01:12:566 (2,3) - , these overlaps hurts. this is not that bad imo. will keep the pattern, but will change the angle of it just a bit
02:56:748 (1) - Cmon , you could do a better sliderwave :p why the fuck do people always complain?.. when i was mapping BT song someone told me that my wave slider was not symmetrical. and now look at the screenshot: http://puu.sh/cIL4y.jpg
the thing is... IT IS INTENDED! i didn't want to make it all symmetrical! geez..
03:04:930 (4,1) - it hurts D: ooh no, i'm not fixing this, haha it's glorious! best pattern in the whole diff

[Medium]

Feels like the diff name is inconsistent with other diffs ;~; I remember Priti's thread about this topic. Can't found the link well, i couldn't think about anything other than that. i was thinking about beginner-easy-normal-hard-insane, but my current "normal" diff is too hard to be called "easy". and the best possible name for a diff right in the middle of the spread was in my opinion "medium". medium=middle lol. well, rules don't say you can't place a name like this. it only says that a diff name should show the difficulty. and it does
Otherwise , great diff! thanks

Also , I'm a bit annoyed of the Collab cause I think there's some rhythm issues but I guess it's fine. it had to be at least a bit different from Insane. though i don't think it has solid issues, maybe some questionable things, but not more than that. collab is fun and easy to play yet challenging. cool diff imo

Call me back after you fix these things o/

Thankies, Pipe