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Congratz!!
Congrats!
哦哦哦
Gratz~
Gratz! smallboat 
yaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Great Muzukashii. And it's one of a few which provides breaks which makes it not too hard.
Spread is also really good. Happy to see such well working constellation between various mappers.
And Zeami, cool! Anyway, congratulations guys.
be honest people, some of you were frightened for some disqualification after seeing my name lol
Spread is also really good. Happy to see such well working constellation between various mappers.
And Zeami, cool! Anyway, congratulations guys.
be honest people, some of you were frightened for some disqualification after seeing my name lol
Ono's name is so dreaded lolol
Taiko song, yay
congrats~
Taiko song, yay
congrats~
Unfortunately, I have to disqualify the map due to the following:
[General]
The difficulty is heavily overmapped. Examples:
The map will be handled by BATs from now on. Sorry that it has to turn like this, and good luck on re-ranking.
[General]
- Please pick more relevant background. 8 different images with different characters from Touhou Project have absolutely nothing to do with Taiko no Tatsujin series or the song itself.
- 00:53:036 (1) - appears too soon after the spinner. It would be fine, but it's pretty much unexpectable, because it's on red tick
- 00:18:381 (2) - has incorrectly snapped repeats; should be 3x 1/6 instead of 4x 1/8
- 00:41:829 (1) - has one repeat less than necessary
- 01:01:312 (4) - is overmapped. Although there are sounds in the audio which you could possibly map to, they are in the background and weaker than the beats 01:00:795 (1) - is mapped to. In contrast, you did not map clear and loud 1/4s at 01:06:140
- 01:12:174 (5,6,1) - same kind of overmap, together with 01:13:036 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) -
- 01:24:760 (1,2,3,4) - same as above, the music doesn't call for such intense movements
The difficulty is heavily overmapped. Examples:
- 00:20:536 (3) -
- 00:21:571 (7) - and so on
- 00:24:416 (3,4) -
- Nearly all 1/4 beats and sliders on kiai, except things like 01:00:623 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) or 01:05:450 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - where you can clearly hear the beat
- 01:12:691 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
- 01:22:691 (5,6) -
- 01:33:036 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
- 01:35:105 (4,5,6,7) -
- 01:36:485 (5,6,7,8) -
The map will be handled by BATs from now on. Sorry that it has to turn like this, and good luck on re-ranking.
Sorry TicClick I have to reject all your mods. No change.
Overmap is not an unrankable issue.
And most of the 'overmap' you point out are some triplets, most of mappers also map like this, also yourself
And after kiai time, telling the truth that I copied most of the rhythm from Firce777's inner oni. It seems fine because OnosakiHito was already here and it plays well because I have already let several players to have a try on this.
So there is a beat, although it's not very clear, we cant map this?
we cant map 'overmapped' triplets?
The diff is more likely an Extra and these makes it play well.
Just that.
I wont rework it, and whether removing is decided on the mapper smallboat himself. If he decide to remove my diff, hue I will also accept that result.
Edit: Got some suggestions from Fycho, change some rhythm at 00:21:312 (6,1,2) - ,00:26:312 (4,5,6,1) - , remake one stream at 00:40:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - :
http://puu.sh/cNfFc/6f5dc2145c.rar
Overmap is not an unrankable issue.
And most of the 'overmap' you point out are some triplets, most of mappers also map like this, also yourself
And after kiai time, telling the truth that I copied most of the rhythm from Firce777's inner oni. It seems fine because OnosakiHito was already here and it plays well because I have already let several players to have a try on this.
So there is a beat, although it's not very clear, we cant map this?
we cant map 'overmapped' triplets?
The diff is more likely an Extra and these makes it play well.
Just that.
I wont rework it, and whether removing is decided on the mapper smallboat himself. If he decide to remove my diff, hue I will also accept that result.
Edit: Got some suggestions from Fycho, change some rhythm at 00:21:312 (6,1,2) - ,00:26:312 (4,5,6,1) - , remake one stream at 00:40:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - :
http://puu.sh/cNfFc/6f5dc2145c.rar
Topic Starter
TicClick wrote:
Unfortunately, I have to disqualify the map due to the following:
[General][Hard]
- Please pick more relevant background. 8 different images with different characters from Touhou Project have absolutely nothing to do with Taiko no Tatsujin series or the song itself. No need to change the background as it isn't unrankable. I use touhou images because they fit the music.,actually I don't like the taiko official website background,because they are in the same style
[Insane]
- 00:53:036 (1) - appears too soon after the spinner. It would be fine, but it's pretty much unexpectable, because it's on red tick
I will let wkyik to check his hard and will fixed itIt is not my hardI guess it has to be seriously reworked or taken out of the mapset. I don't think it is bad
- 00:18:381 (2) - has incorrectly snapped repeats; should be 3x 1/6 instead of 4x 1/8 Umm..agree fix this
- 00:41:829 (1) - has one repeat less than necessary Fix by another way
- 01:01:312 (4) - is overmapped. Although there are sounds in the audio which you could possibly map to, they are in the background and weaker than the beats 01:00:795 (1) - is mapped to. In contrast, you did not map clear and loud 1/4s at 01:06:140 Fix by another ways (I just not place 01:00:881 here),but I don't think it is overmapped there
- 01:12:174 (5,6,1) - same kind of overmap, together with 01:13:036 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - 01:12:174 (5,6) - these sounds are obvious enough to me so i don't really think they're overmapping, and 01:13:036 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - The same reason Yuki opinion (01:13:898 (2) - Slider head has a voice,not the overmapped)
- 01:24:760 (1,2,3,4) - same as above, the music doesn't call for such intense movements Still has the music there I think
The map will be handled by BATs from now on. Sorry that it has to turn like this, and good luck on re-ranking. Hope so
Asked to look at this map by smallboat; as far as I am concerned, this map will not move forward until the issues stated in TicClick's post are addressed and resolved. I've had a look at the diff in question, and I can confirm TicClick's suspicions.
From the ranking criteria guidelines:
Call me if you need any help in particular.
From the ranking criteria guidelines:
All hitcircles and the starting point of any sliders should be snapped to be a beat in the music. Slider end points should be snapped to a beat in the music, or the end of a prolonged note where appropriate. Adding hitobjects where there is no musical cue to justify them can result in confusing patterns which are difficult to follow and incongruent with the backing track.Sure this is not directly unrankable, but that is not a suitable enough defense. Anything can be unranked with enough warrant for it (in this case, I believe there is a suitable amount of need for it to be unqualified).
Call me if you need any help in particular.
Had a little discussion with the mapper, fix some rhythm issue during IRC. (Sorry I miss the log ;_;)
Rebubbled.
Rebubbled.
Talked with mapper, fixed the following issues:
Edit: sorry I forgot to put the chat log here
- cut off 10ms delay in the head of soft-hitclap.wav
- fixed the unsnapped notes in Yuki's Extra diff
- changed the size of bg8.jpg from 1228x767 to 1228x768
Edit: sorry I forgot to put the chat log here
SPOILER
2015-01-04
Kuroko 19:57:36
船业啊
Kuroko 19:57:48
Flask泡你的那张图
Kuroko 19:57:59
clap有10ms延迟
Kuroko 20:01:03
你会自己切掉多余的部分吗
会的话切好了叫我我给你点了 不会的话等我回寝室了切一个给你你更新
smallboat 20:12:12
不會切耶
smallboat 20:12:17
0.0
smallboat 20:12:37
換這個應該只能reb 不能點吧
Kuroko 20:15:19
你这我戳也可以啊 你选吧
Kuroko 20:20:03
觉得没啥必要
smallboat 20:22:41
對啊沒啥必要
smallboat 20:22:43
0.0
smallboat 20:22:55
你是新BAT還沒一周呢?
Kuroko 20:25:11
才一天 不过也没人说不能点啊 我记得乐园也是一两天就干活了
Kuroko 20:26:30
你那图ono都发话了 std taiko该改的都改了 general我也查了 就音效改改直接飞了
smallboat 20:34:20
ok 那幫麻煩clap改一下 謝謝歐尼醬
smallboat 20:34:39
改了一樣還是聲音沒差別?
Kuroko 20:34:43
你9点半左右还在线吧 我那时候回寝室
Kuroko 20:34:58
自然 我只是把空白的前10ms切掉
smallboat 20:34:58
恩9點半在
Kuroko 20:35:11
还是那个鼓音
smallboat 20:37:35
好
Kuroko 20:40:19
我回去重新确认一下tic说的overmapped的那里 粗看没问题可能细看会有点最好改了的 抱歉今天可能刚上有点兴奋没注意双击查看原图
Kuroko 20:40:35
我到时候也找yuki谈谈
smallboat 20:41:13
行
Kuroko 20:42:45
flask昨天要你改了些啥啊
smallboat 20:43:32
只改了之前他提到的一個折返
Kuroko 20:44:13
。
smallboat 20:44:53
我等下也確認看看
Kuroko 22:21:37
船业啊
Kuroko 22:21:51
Yuki's Extra有几个很明显的unsnap
Kuroko 22:21:57
AIMod都报了
smallboat 22:22:03
?
Kuroko 22:22:14
还有几个1ms unsnap
smallboat 22:22:15
還真
Kuroko 22:22:21
比如01:31:053 (7,8,9,10) -
Kuroko 22:22:27
我osu掉了
smallboat 22:22:46
不知道有沒有人注意到
Kuroko 22:22:50
我现在去切一下clap传给你
smallboat 22:23:03
好
smallboat 22:23:12
你電腦用到幾點
smallboat 22:23:16
233
Kuroko 22:23:24
2点之前都有电
Kuroko 22:23:32
元旦过后不断电了
smallboat 22:23:54
哦哦
Kuroko 22:24:29
对方已成功接收了您发送的离线文件“soft-hitclap.wav”(93.39KB)。
smallboat 22:25:10
已收
Kuroko 22:25:39
嗯
smallboat 22:26:18
可能再叫F醬泡一次
Kuroko 22:26:26
嗯
Kuroko 22:26:40
你找他reb吧
Kuroko 22:42:58
bg8.jpg is 1228x767, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768.
改成1228x768比较好
D: sorry for my careless... rebubbled again lol
you forgot the backgrounds
not to mention horrid slider jumps on extra that are mapped to basically nothing
not to mention horrid slider jumps on extra that are mapped to basically nothing
↑
hehe
hehe
To Yuki: See this
IRC log
Will do some more modding if you want, but read above first01:26 OniJAM: 好惨啊
01:27 smallboat: 慘慘
01:27 smallboat: 都我一人再撐
01:27 OniJAM: 我查查
01:28 OniJAM: 音效的我待会儿再说
01:28 OniJAM: 00:15:450 (3,4) - 这里跳会不会太大了
01:29 OniJAM: 00:10:191 (5) - 这里确实overmap了 真的没有音
01:29 OniJAM: 00:10:105 (4) - 换一个1/4滑条好了
01:29 smallboat: 跳太大這個
01:29 smallboat: 不是我ˋ能決定
01:30 OniJAM: yuki不在呢
01:30 OniJAM: 我待会儿po
01:30 OniJAM: 让yuki看看
01:31 OniJAM: 00:15:709 (5) - 确实overmap too
01:31 OniJAM: 但是这种用法相当普遍 其实我觉得没问题
01:33 OniJAM: 00:24:329 (2) -
01:33 smallboat: 好
01:34 OniJAM: 咱们就当摸别人图一样讨论一下
01:34 OniJAM: 00:24:071 (1,2,3,4) - 这一段我觉得可以重新调整一下
01:34 OniJAM: 00:24:329 (2) - 这里是啥音都没有
01:34 OniJAM: 00:24:416 (3,4) - 虽然是滑条跳但是还是偏远的感觉
01:35 OniJAM: 00:26:398 (5) - 没音
01:36 OniJAM: 00:26:743 - 这里倒是有 可以换上
01:37 smallboat: 有些真得的確沒音..
01:37 OniJAM: 00:30:795 (9) - 这个unrankable啊 明显
01:37 OniJAM: 1/6
01:37 smallboat: extra如果這要我做的話
01:37 OniJAM: 这个肯定要改
01:37 smallboat: 不會壓到沒音上
01:37 OniJAM: 我现在挑没音的 全都改掉我想tic不会再找麻烦
01:38 OniJAM: 00:30:795 (9) - 这个一定要改
01:38 smallboat: 對
01:39 OniJAM: 00:35:364 (2) - 跟上面一样 也是没音
01:40 smallboat: 剛才Tic跟說了些對話
01:40 smallboat: 我
01:40 OniJAM: 00:41:657 (13) - 一样unrankable
01:40 OniJAM: 00:41:829 - 这里后面也是1/6
01:40 smallboat: 他說改那些地方他就考慮
01:40 smallboat: 對
01:40 smallboat: 都是1/6
01:40 OniJAM: 那这种就非改不可
01:41 OniJAM: 要起飞的话 我说的那堆overmap最好也改改
01:41 OniJAM: 其它都有音 他敢dq不用神龙 我就搞死他
01:41 OniJAM: 他reb完找我起飞
01:43 OniJAM: 00:52:864 - 1/6 again
01:43 smallboat: QAT不能reb和qua動作 黃書有講過..
01:43 OniJAM: 0.0
01:43 OniJAM: 能重新让flask reb么
01:43 OniJAM: 不然我reb
01:43 smallboat: 他說已經兩次了不想再幹
01:44 smallboat: 好像不能第三
01:44 smallboat: 3次也很扯了
01:44 OniJAM: 。
01:44 OniJAM: 00:57:778 (5) - 没音
01:44 smallboat: 同個人
01:44 OniJAM: 那我来好了
01:44 smallboat: 我貼一下他訊息
01:44 smallboat: in QQ
01:45 OniJAM: 00:59:157 (4) -
01:45 OniJAM: 到时候你改完先问问tic满不满意 还有给不给reb
01:45 OniJAM: 你让M酱改完*
01:46 OniJAM: 00:59:847 (7) -
01:47 OniJAM: 01:01:916 (2) -
01:47 OniJAM: 01:02:605 (6) -
01:48 smallboat: 噴了這麼多 不知道m醬有何感想
01:48 OniJAM: 01:03:985 (7) - 这里也没音 01:03:898 (6) - 有个noise 也换成滑条好了
01:48 OniJAM: M酱说的overmap变的好玩就没问题其实我是支持的
01:48 OniJAM: 但是奈何有些人不支持
01:48 OniJAM: 没办法
01:49 smallboat: sigh
01:49 OniJAM: 退一步讲 我觉得不overmap就把图做的很好玩也是很厉害的
01:49 smallboat: 對
01:49 OniJAM: 这对节奏和排列的下法要求更高
01:49 OniJAM: 所以说
01:49 OniJAM: 改吧
01:49 OniJAM: 要想起飞只好改
01:49 OniJAM: 没辙
01:50 smallboat: 這不是我的diff所以你應該要跟他說要不要改lol
01:50 OniJAM: 01:05:967 - 这里其实可以衔接一个的 有点空 (additional modding)
01:51 OniJAM: 我说了全部写完直接post log给M酱看
01:51 smallboat: 哦好
01:51 OniJAM: 他又不在线
01:51 smallboat: ok
01:51 OniJAM: 01:07:433 (3) - 还是没音
01:51 OniJAM: 你也可以听听看啊 如果你觉得有也可以指出来嘛
01:51 smallboat: 這個我一定不會放
01:52 smallboat: 有啊他不改啊
01:52 OniJAM: 我这破森海不一定听得出一部分音
01:52 OniJAM: 如果tic说的那些和我说的这些都不改
01:52 OniJAM: 那就只好坟了
01:53 OniJAM: 01:08:812 (4) - 这个音我感觉其实是落在1/6上还是不要下的好
01:54 OniJAM: 01:10:881 (10) - 同上
01:55 smallboat: 好的
01:55 OniJAM: 01:21:226 (6) - overmap
01:55 smallboat: 真多啊
01:56 smallboat: 剛剛傳給你的
01:56 smallboat: 跟這裡對照
01:56 OniJAM: 我看看
01:57 smallboat: 我覺得還是有些地方根本沒講到 還是你講的細
01:57 OniJAM: 我一个一个1/4挺过去
01:57 OniJAM: 听过去*
01:57 OniJAM: 其实1/4滑条尾不unrank吧
01:58 OniJAM: 合适就好
01:58 OniJAM: 我还没听滑条尾
01:58 smallboat: 如果真是這樣
01:58 smallboat: 最近的天國與地獄那最後1個diff
01:58 OniJAM: 01:24:157 (7) - 也没音
01:58 smallboat: 有些1/4尾也沒音啊
01:58 OniJAM: 滑条尾不用管
01:59 OniJAM: 又不需要击打
01:59 OniJAM: 这种已经有像星爷 像miss you
01:59 OniJAM: 成熟的例子在那儿
01:59 smallboat: 恩
02:00 smallboat: 差別是一個在qua 這一張沒有
02:00 OniJAM: 主要还是note不要overmap
02:00 smallboat: 好
02:00 OniJAM: 01:24:674 (12) - 还是没有
02:00 OniJAM: 其实
02:00 smallboat: 我不會做到沒音放note
02:01 smallboat: 這樣減了下來
02:01 OniJAM: M酱举的“抄的太鼓节奏”作为反驳理由不合理
02:01 smallboat: 星星應該只有5.1
02:01 OniJAM: 他是没做过太鼓图
02:01 OniJAM: 太鼓不overmap怎么玩啊
02:01 OniJAM: 太鼓多少节奏都是靠脑补
02:01 smallboat: 對啊
02:01 smallboat: 不一樣啊
02:02 OniJAM: 所以太鼓可以 你std就是不行 不要不服
02:02 smallboat: 而且藍跟紅的組合更是要梗...
02:02 OniJAM: mania也不能overmap 但是可以抓多轨啊
02:02 smallboat: 對啊
02:02 OniJAM: 所以说 用好滑条尾
02:03 OniJAM: 01:26:054 (12) - 没音
02:03 OniJAM: 01:26:743 (6) - same
02:03 OniJAM: 01:27:778 (2) - 这里连音乐都静下来了
02:04 OniJAM: 01:30:191 (12) -
02:04 OniJAM: 01:31:053 (7) - 差不多这个也可以算 最好也改了
02:04 OniJAM: 01:32:260 (6) -
02:05 OniJAM: 01:32:950 (11) - 更接近1/6
02:05 OniJAM: 差不多也可以算的那个也是 更接近1/6
02:06 OniJAM: 01:33:467 (6) - 没有音
02:06 smallboat: 1 32 950那個
02:06 smallboat: 1/4就好
02:07 OniJAM: 好了 没了
02:08 OniJAM: 01:32:950 (11) - 这个啊 其实我觉得删掉连打更舒服
02:08 OniJAM: 不然坑一坑切指
02:08 OniJAM: 也不算太坑 嘛
02:09 smallboat: 恩對
02:11 OniJAM: additional modding要么
02:11 OniJAM: 或者我等他上线
02:12 smallboat: 等她上線好了
02:14 OniJAM: ok
01:27 smallboat: 慘慘
01:27 smallboat: 都我一人再撐
01:27 OniJAM: 我查查
01:28 OniJAM: 音效的我待会儿再说
01:28 OniJAM: 00:15:450 (3,4) - 这里跳会不会太大了
01:29 OniJAM: 00:10:191 (5) - 这里确实overmap了 真的没有音
01:29 OniJAM: 00:10:105 (4) - 换一个1/4滑条好了
01:29 smallboat: 跳太大這個
01:29 smallboat: 不是我ˋ能決定
01:30 OniJAM: yuki不在呢
01:30 OniJAM: 我待会儿po
01:30 OniJAM: 让yuki看看
01:31 OniJAM: 00:15:709 (5) - 确实overmap too
01:31 OniJAM: 但是这种用法相当普遍 其实我觉得没问题
01:33 OniJAM: 00:24:329 (2) -
01:33 smallboat: 好
01:34 OniJAM: 咱们就当摸别人图一样讨论一下
01:34 OniJAM: 00:24:071 (1,2,3,4) - 这一段我觉得可以重新调整一下
01:34 OniJAM: 00:24:329 (2) - 这里是啥音都没有
01:34 OniJAM: 00:24:416 (3,4) - 虽然是滑条跳但是还是偏远的感觉
01:35 OniJAM: 00:26:398 (5) - 没音
01:36 OniJAM: 00:26:743 - 这里倒是有 可以换上
01:37 smallboat: 有些真得的確沒音..
01:37 OniJAM: 00:30:795 (9) - 这个unrankable啊 明显
01:37 OniJAM: 1/6
01:37 smallboat: extra如果這要我做的話
01:37 OniJAM: 这个肯定要改
01:37 smallboat: 不會壓到沒音上
01:37 OniJAM: 我现在挑没音的 全都改掉我想tic不会再找麻烦
01:38 OniJAM: 00:30:795 (9) - 这个一定要改
01:38 smallboat: 對
01:39 OniJAM: 00:35:364 (2) - 跟上面一样 也是没音
01:40 smallboat: 剛才Tic跟說了些對話
01:40 smallboat: 我
01:40 OniJAM: 00:41:657 (13) - 一样unrankable
01:40 OniJAM: 00:41:829 - 这里后面也是1/6
01:40 smallboat: 他說改那些地方他就考慮
01:40 smallboat: 對
01:40 smallboat: 都是1/6
01:40 OniJAM: 那这种就非改不可
01:41 OniJAM: 要起飞的话 我说的那堆overmap最好也改改
01:41 OniJAM: 其它都有音 他敢dq不用神龙 我就搞死他
01:41 OniJAM: 他reb完找我起飞
01:43 OniJAM: 00:52:864 - 1/6 again
01:43 smallboat: QAT不能reb和qua動作 黃書有講過..
01:43 OniJAM: 0.0
01:43 OniJAM: 能重新让flask reb么
01:43 OniJAM: 不然我reb
01:43 smallboat: 他說已經兩次了不想再幹
01:44 smallboat: 好像不能第三
01:44 smallboat: 3次也很扯了
01:44 OniJAM: 。
01:44 OniJAM: 00:57:778 (5) - 没音
01:44 smallboat: 同個人
01:44 OniJAM: 那我来好了
01:44 smallboat: 我貼一下他訊息
01:44 smallboat: in QQ
01:45 OniJAM: 00:59:157 (4) -
01:45 OniJAM: 到时候你改完先问问tic满不满意 还有给不给reb
01:45 OniJAM: 你让M酱改完*
01:46 OniJAM: 00:59:847 (7) -
01:47 OniJAM: 01:01:916 (2) -
01:47 OniJAM: 01:02:605 (6) -
01:48 smallboat: 噴了這麼多 不知道m醬有何感想
01:48 OniJAM: 01:03:985 (7) - 这里也没音 01:03:898 (6) - 有个noise 也换成滑条好了
01:48 OniJAM: M酱说的overmap变的好玩就没问题其实我是支持的
01:48 OniJAM: 但是奈何有些人不支持
01:48 OniJAM: 没办法
01:49 smallboat: sigh
01:49 OniJAM: 退一步讲 我觉得不overmap就把图做的很好玩也是很厉害的
01:49 smallboat: 對
01:49 OniJAM: 这对节奏和排列的下法要求更高
01:49 OniJAM: 所以说
01:49 OniJAM: 改吧
01:49 OniJAM: 要想起飞只好改
01:49 OniJAM: 没辙
01:50 smallboat: 這不是我的diff所以你應該要跟他說要不要改lol
01:50 OniJAM: 01:05:967 - 这里其实可以衔接一个的 有点空 (additional modding)
01:51 OniJAM: 我说了全部写完直接post log给M酱看
01:51 smallboat: 哦好
01:51 OniJAM: 他又不在线
01:51 smallboat: ok
01:51 OniJAM: 01:07:433 (3) - 还是没音
01:51 OniJAM: 你也可以听听看啊 如果你觉得有也可以指出来嘛
01:51 smallboat: 這個我一定不會放
01:52 smallboat: 有啊他不改啊
01:52 OniJAM: 我这破森海不一定听得出一部分音
01:52 OniJAM: 如果tic说的那些和我说的这些都不改
01:52 OniJAM: 那就只好坟了
01:53 OniJAM: 01:08:812 (4) - 这个音我感觉其实是落在1/6上还是不要下的好
01:54 OniJAM: 01:10:881 (10) - 同上
01:55 smallboat: 好的
01:55 OniJAM: 01:21:226 (6) - overmap
01:55 smallboat: 真多啊
01:56 smallboat: 剛剛傳給你的
01:56 smallboat: 跟這裡對照
01:56 OniJAM: 我看看
01:57 smallboat: 我覺得還是有些地方根本沒講到 還是你講的細
01:57 OniJAM: 我一个一个1/4挺过去
01:57 OniJAM: 听过去*
01:57 OniJAM: 其实1/4滑条尾不unrank吧
01:58 OniJAM: 合适就好
01:58 OniJAM: 我还没听滑条尾
01:58 smallboat: 如果真是這樣
01:58 smallboat: 最近的天國與地獄那最後1個diff
01:58 OniJAM: 01:24:157 (7) - 也没音
01:58 smallboat: 有些1/4尾也沒音啊
01:58 OniJAM: 滑条尾不用管
01:59 OniJAM: 又不需要击打
01:59 OniJAM: 这种已经有像星爷 像miss you
01:59 OniJAM: 成熟的例子在那儿
01:59 smallboat: 恩
02:00 smallboat: 差別是一個在qua 這一張沒有
02:00 OniJAM: 主要还是note不要overmap
02:00 smallboat: 好
02:00 OniJAM: 01:24:674 (12) - 还是没有
02:00 OniJAM: 其实
02:00 smallboat: 我不會做到沒音放note
02:01 smallboat: 這樣減了下來
02:01 OniJAM: M酱举的“抄的太鼓节奏”作为反驳理由不合理
02:01 smallboat: 星星應該只有5.1
02:01 OniJAM: 他是没做过太鼓图
02:01 OniJAM: 太鼓不overmap怎么玩啊
02:01 OniJAM: 太鼓多少节奏都是靠脑补
02:01 smallboat: 對啊
02:01 smallboat: 不一樣啊
02:02 OniJAM: 所以太鼓可以 你std就是不行 不要不服
02:02 smallboat: 而且藍跟紅的組合更是要梗...
02:02 OniJAM: mania也不能overmap 但是可以抓多轨啊
02:02 smallboat: 對啊
02:02 OniJAM: 所以说 用好滑条尾
02:03 OniJAM: 01:26:054 (12) - 没音
02:03 OniJAM: 01:26:743 (6) - same
02:03 OniJAM: 01:27:778 (2) - 这里连音乐都静下来了
02:04 OniJAM: 01:30:191 (12) -
02:04 OniJAM: 01:31:053 (7) - 差不多这个也可以算 最好也改了
02:04 OniJAM: 01:32:260 (6) -
02:05 OniJAM: 01:32:950 (11) - 更接近1/6
02:05 OniJAM: 差不多也可以算的那个也是 更接近1/6
02:06 OniJAM: 01:33:467 (6) - 没有音
02:06 smallboat: 1 32 950那個
02:06 smallboat: 1/4就好
02:07 OniJAM: 好了 没了
02:08 OniJAM: 01:32:950 (11) - 这个啊 其实我觉得删掉连打更舒服
02:08 OniJAM: 不然坑一坑切指
02:08 OniJAM: 也不算太坑 嘛
02:09 smallboat: 恩對
02:11 OniJAM: additional modding要么
02:11 OniJAM: 或者我等他上线
02:12 smallboat: 等她上線好了
02:14 OniJAM: ok
00:15:450 (3,4) - 这里跳会不会太大了 没问题，我自己打可以完美衔接mostly removed what you mentioned
00:10:191 (5) - 这里确实overmap了 真的没有音 keep consistance with 00:12:864 (4,5,1) - , imo it plays fine
00:10:105 (4) - 换一个1/4滑条好了 ^
00:15:709 (5) - 确实overmap too ^
00:24:329 (2) - removed, the following is also the same here
00:26:398 (5) - 没音 k
00:26:743 - 这里倒是有 可以换上 k
00:30:795 (9) - 这个unrankable啊 明显 fixed with 1/6
00:35:364 (2) - 跟上面一样 也是没音 removed
00:41:657 (13) - 一样unrankable 这里后面也是1/6 fixd
00:52:864 - 1/6 again ^
00:57:778 (5) - 没音 removed
00:59:157 (4) - removed
00:59:847 (7) - removed
01:01:916 (2) - removed
01:02:605 (6) - keep for more comfortable playing
01:03:985 (7) - 这里也没音 01:03:898 (6) - 有个noise 也换成滑条好了 ^
01:07:433 (3) - 还是没音 removed
01:08:812 (4) - 这个音我感觉其实是落在1/6上还是不要下的好 removed
01:10:881 (10) - 同上 removed
01:21:226 (6) - overmap removed
01:24:157 (7) - 也没音 removed
01:24:674 (12) - 还是没有 ^
01:26:054 (12) - 没音
01:26:743 (6) - same
01:27:778 (2) - 这里连音乐都静下来了
01:30:191 (12) -
01:31:053 (7) - 差不多这个也可以算 最好也改了
01:32:260 (6) -
01:32:950 (11) - 更接近1/6 mostly removed
01:33:467 (6) - 没有音 removed
01:32:950 (11) - 这个啊 其实我觉得删掉连打更舒服 改梗了
and i wanna keep the tripets on the slider head because of more comfortable playing, thanks for help.
RIP old version.
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@Minakami Yuki
Why do these still exist? They should've been changed to notes or something after my talk with smallboat
00:24:416 (2,3) -
00:35:450 (2,3) -
00:58:726 (2) -
01:04:243 (2) -
01:12:864 (4) -
Why do these still exist? They should've been changed to notes or something after my talk with smallboat
00:24:416 (2,3) -
00:35:450 (2,3) -
00:58:726 (2) -
01:04:243 (2) -
01:12:864 (4) -
Well idk what you talked with smallboat, if possible, next time you'd better paste chatlog here, some detailed reasons and suggestions will help mapper and BATs understand your thinks easily, just a kind reminder.TicClick wrote:
@Minakami Yuki
Why do these still exist? They should've been changed to notes or something after my talk with smallboat
00:24:416 (2,3) - Listen carefully, 00:24:502 - has sound so obviously Yuki can use 1/4 slider here, 00:24:674 - has too. If you're talking about 1/4 jump.. well..
00:35:450 (2,3) - Same as above
00:58:726 (2) - Same as above
01:04:243 (2) - Slider end didn't snap to a beat in the music here, but 01:04:243 - is a start of prolonged sound in music, so 1/4 snapped to an appropriate point for me, well change to a note is okay too
01:12:864 (4) - Same as above
One more added, 01:39:588 (4) - in Yuki's Extra should be snapped to 1/4, also between 01:39:416 - and 01:39:933 - in Insane is snapped wrongly too, please fix
hoping you understand.TicClick wrote:
@Minakami Yuki
Why do these still exist? They should've been changed to notes or something after my talk with smallboat
00:24:416 (2,3) - the slider jump is not hard to reach and there are beats in the music(use your headphone you will hear it obviously), not overmapped here
00:35:450 (2,3) - ^
00:58:726 (2) - 1/4 are full of beats so why i can't make 1/4 slider jump here?
01:04:243 (2) - although the end not snapped to beats, it's accepted according to rc and so many maps also make 1/4 sliders like this, also if you hear clearly you will hear it shows like some ending sounds, 1/4 sliders fits it quite well
01:12:864 (4) - ^
If you still think 1/4 slider end should not be overmapped
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/519647
Awaken diff.
01:14:049 (6,7) - yey
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/244640
Definition of Life diff.
00:42:201 (6,7,1,2) - follows nothing
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113398
Psycho diff.
01:46:918 (1,2,3,4) - yey
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/183656
Hell diff.
00:28:134 (1,2,3,4) - 1 and 3's end follows nothing
00:38:903 (6,7) - yey this
00:43:518 (5,6,7,8) - 5,7's end
00:48:749 (6,7) -
01:06:903 (1,2,3,4) - 1,3's end
01:12:134 (5,6) -
even in Extreme: 01:07:211 (5,6) -
I havent check all maps in qualified,take them all out of qualified then i will change those 1/4 sliders.
Awaken diff.
01:14:049 (6,7) - yey
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/244640
Definition of Life diff.
00:42:201 (6,7,1,2) - follows nothing
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113398
Psycho diff.
01:46:918 (1,2,3,4) - yey
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/183656
Hell diff.
00:28:134 (1,2,3,4) - 1 and 3's end follows nothing
00:38:903 (6,7) - yey this
00:43:518 (5,6,7,8) - 5,7's end
00:48:749 (6,7) -
01:06:903 (1,2,3,4) - 1,3's end
01:12:134 (5,6) -
even in Extreme: 01:07:211 (5,6) -
I havent check all maps in qualified,
Your problem is that you're treating the song as if it didn't have vocals at all, trying to make this an excuse good enough to do with your map what others do, even in spite of no changes in the beat. Sorry, but the fact that you didn't make your map a full 1/4th beats stream and only did it locally and added random sliderjumps is not going to make me any happier because "it could've been worse and I'm glad it isn't".
I also don't say anything about the difficulty of such patterns, questioning only their purpose. Didn't it surprise you that I asked you to do something with these very specific sliders and just skipped the rest of them? No? Why? Didn't it draw your attention that I skipped a couple of streams on post-kiai parts, although I should've told you to remove them too due to the same reason? No? Why? Because guess what, I am already trying to reach the compromise, making you change as few patterns as possible. You can compare my posts to my actual disqualification post, if you want.
I also don't say anything about the difficulty of such patterns, questioning only their purpose. Didn't it surprise you that I asked you to do something with these very specific sliders and just skipped the rest of them? No? Why? Didn't it draw your attention that I skipped a couple of streams on post-kiai parts, although I should've told you to remove them too due to the same reason? No? Why? Because guess what, I am already trying to reach the compromise, making you change as few patterns as possible. You can compare my posts to my actual disqualification post, if you want.
I will, but, to be honest, I expected them to post the log, especially after they told they'd pass it to the guest. I still have logs but without my messages, because I was replying from osu!, not the external client. Sorry.OniJAM wrote:
Well idk what you talked with smallboat, if possible, next time you'd better paste chatlog here, some detailed reasons and suggestions will help mapper and BATs understand your thinks easily, just a kind reminder.
yep I only follow the music not vocal, but why it cant be acceptable?TicClick wrote:
Your problem is that you're treating the song as if it didn't have vocals at all, trying to make this an excuse good enough to do with your map what others do, even in spite of no changes in the beat.
vocal is a track, beats is another track, and what i map doesnt mix these two tracks(including sliderjumps), it's like a remix.
If that is your reason, I'm quite confused and disappointed.
wtf? if i can give a opinion, i'm agree with Yuki, if you don't understand this, why are you a QAT?Minakami Yuki wrote:
yep I only follow the music not vocal, but why it cant be acceptable?
vocal is a track, beats is another track, and what i map doesnt mix these two tracks(including sliderjumps), it's like a remix.
If that is your reason, I'm quite confused and disappointed.
no, you should not say this, QATs are always right, their judgement is always correct, people who have oppesite opinions will agree with what they say after they post a "mod", how great! i start worrying about your future maps guy, you are opposite to a QAT.CSLMVenezuela wrote:
wtf? if i can give a opinion, i'm agree with Yuki, if you don't understand this, why are you a QAT?Minakami Yuki wrote:
yep I only follow the music not vocal, but why it cant be acceptable?
vocal is a track, beats is another track, and what i map doesnt mix these two tracks(including sliderjumps), it's like a remix.
If that is your reason, I'm quite confused and disappointed.
1.QATs are always right.
2.If QATs are wrong, see 1 plz
↑ RC plz
no!
i dont like this diff!
it should take out of the mapset!
what you still want to keep?
good luck!
what someone reb for this?
let me see!
lmao if you want to reb,ask me first!pop~
i dont like this diff!
it should take out of the mapset!
what you still want to keep?
good luck!
what someone reb for this?
let me see!
lmao if you want to reb,ask me first!pop~
but then why we can't map the music when there is vocal? is stupid what a QAT think of that way, when suppose what they must agree with this. If they have always the reason, why all the maps what now are ranked are based with the music?Tsukuyomi wrote:
no, you should not say this, QATs are always right, their judgement is always correct, people who have oppesite opinions will agree with what they say after they post a "mod", how great! i start worrying about your future maps guy, you are opposite to a QAT.
1.QATs are always right.
2.If QATs are wrong, see 1 plz
↑ RC plz
Hey, it seems that you didn't got my mind.CSLMVenezuela wrote:
but then why we can't map the music when there is vocal? is stupid what a QAT think of that way, when suppose what they must agree with this. If they have always the reason, why all the maps what now are ranked are based with the music?
I just told you what cancer is.
i'm not opposing of the QATs if that are you wondering.Tsukuyomi wrote:
Hey, it seems that you didn't got my mind.CSLMVenezuela wrote:
but then why we can't map the music when there is vocal? is stupid what a QAT think of that way, when suppose what they must agree with this. If they have always the reason, why all the maps what now are ranked are based with the music?
I just told you what cancer is.
hey guys stop making drama here
i get quite a lot of opinions from some bats and a former qat who is shy and doesnt want me to post his message into the thread.
i have thought it for about an afternoon, and decide to remove those 1/4 slider jumps.
ok rip old version again
i get quite a lot of opinions from some bats and a former qat who is shy and doesnt want me to post his message into the thread.
i have thought it for about an afternoon, and decide to remove those 1/4 slider jumps.
ok rip old version again
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glad to see this map reach a good quality before smallboat deletes those BGsMinakami Yuki wrote:
ok rip old version again
i hope what this get ranked, and sorry by the drama u.u
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Fixed all mentioned wrongly snapped issues,OniJAM wrote:
Well idk what you talked with smallboat, if possible, next time you'd better paste chatlog here, some detailed reasons and suggestions will help mapper and BATs understand your thinks easily, just a kind reminder.
One more added, 01:39:588 (4) - in Yuki's Extra should be snapped to 1/4, also between 01:39:416 - and 01:39:933 - in Insane is snapped wrongly too, please fix
Thanks OniJAM" check amd another ppl ~!
Updated
EDIT : TicClick says okay at this mapset,so it already achieved bub quality.
check in IRC with mapper and change Insane of 00:42:174 (2) - 01:13:898 (2) -
others are fine for me
let it go---x2
Re-Bubble!
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others are fine for me
let it go---x2
Re-Bubble!