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schwarzvgrune

Lenfried- wrote:

KaitoKid1998 wrote:

Overall, it's a pretty good map, nothing feels out of place, these are just some things I think can be changed. Take this in mind, I just played each difficulty once, so you can ask me for a more detailed look at it, but then it would be better to simply ask me for mod :P.

I found no problem with the 7k and 4k Easy, in fact, it is very good as an easy diff. I found the 7k Normal a little bit unbalanced in terms of hands, I feel I use more the right hand more than the left, but it may be me, since I haven't done a throught check of the map, but other than that, it was good. The 4k Normal was pretty good too, just that you repeat a lot this pattern:
1 2 3 4
(13) 2 (13)
My opinion would be to keep the patterns, but changing the note placement of the double notes (like instead of (13) 2 (13), change it to (13) 4 (12) or something of the sort). The 7K hard was awesome, just that it would be good to separate more some of the LNs, since when 2 LNs are coming, there are mainly one besides the other, and I think it would be good to separate them a bit (same with the 7k Normal). The 4k Hard was very good.

Anyways, please tell me if I'm wrong at anything, since I want to learn from experience :D. Also, good luck with the beatmap.
Oh, Ln placement issues. I would need help (mods or detailed mods) in this as I do not have a problem playing these lns ;;
cuz u're too pro ;w;
shionelove
from M4M
column 1234 1234567
for all diffs:01:51:875 - add some

[4K Hard]
00:11:375 (11375|0) - delete
00:35:825 - add 2
00:50:675 (50675|1,51275|3,51575|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2851043
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:06:275 (6275|2) - to 00:07:925 (7925|2) - add some notes like 00:01:475 (1475|1,1625|0,1775|1,2225|1,2375|0) -
00:31:475 (31475|0) - until 00:31:925 ?
00:35:075 (35075|3) - ^
00:37:475 (37475|1) - ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - add some notes
01:21:575 (81575|4,82175|5) - add some drums

good luck
arviejhay
hello u req?


1,2,3,4,5,6,7
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:01:475 (1475|1,1625|0,1775|1,1925|2,2225|1,2375|0) - there's seems to be a lot of hand pressure here, so ctrl + H then move it back to the original position (move 4 columns to the left)
00:02:525 (2525|2) - move to 4
00:13:475 (13475|3) - move to 7 and add a note on 3
00:19:925 - add a note on 3 with clap
01:46:325 - ^


Such a great map :)
Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
schwarzvgrune

shionelove wrote:

from M4M
column 1234 1234567
for all diffs:01:51:875 - add some

[4K Hard]
00:11:375 (11375|0) - delete
sound here so no, i'm following both faint guitar accompaniments and guitar main melody

00:35:825 - add 2 added

00:50:675 (50675|1,51275|3,51575|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2851043
OMG THANK YOU FOR NOTICING THAT, IMPLEMENTED


[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:06:275 (6275|2) - to 00:07:925 (7925|2) - add some notes like 00:01:475 (1475|1,1625|0,1775|1,2225|1,2375|0) -
00:31:475 (31475|0) - until 00:31:925 ?
00:35:075 (35075|3) - ^
00:37:475 (37475|1) - ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - add some notes
01:21:575 (81575|4,82175|5) - add some drums

good luck
Topic Starter
schwarzvgrune
testplay by coco_21_

00:46 schwarzvgrune: ココさん
00:46 schwarzvgrune: 7Kをやってますか
00:47 coco_21_: 今は4kしてます^^!
00:47 schwarzvgrune: だけど7Kを出来ますよね?
00:47 coco_21_: しているというか練習中です^!
00:47 schwarzvgrune: へえ!!!
00:47 coco_21_: 7kもやりますよー!
00:48 schwarzvgrune: うそ! ココさんのランクはとても高いです >_<
00:48 schwarzvgrune: 7Kが出来る出来るよね!
00:48 coco_21_: ありがとです^!しかし最近は右肩下がりに、、、w
00:48 schwarzvgrune: XD
00:48 schwarzvgrune: !!
00:49 schwarzvgrune: 大丈夫ですか;w;
00:49 coco_21_: > <...
00:49 schwarzvgrune: ココさん
00:49 coco_21_: また頑張る!
00:49 coco_21_: はい!
00:49 schwarzvgrune: 二ヶ月前の譜面
00:49 schwarzvgrune: 私の譜面、ここまでたくさんmodをもらいました
00:50 coco_21_: おおお!
00:50 schwarzvgrune: ココさんはテストプレイを遊ぶことが好いですか
00:51 coco_21_: いろいろな譜面プレイするの好きですよ^^!
00:56 schwarzvgrune: いえいえ
00:56 schwarzvgrune: えっと
00:56 schwarzvgrune: このマップはじゃ在りません
00:56 schwarzvgrune: ;w;
00:56 schwarzvgrune: これです
00:56 *schwarzvgrune is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/634753 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop!]
00:57 schwarzvgrune: すごい
00:57 schwarzvgrune: うわああ
00:57 schwarzvgrune: 98%
00:57 schwarzvgrune: 最高ですう~~~ >_<
00:57 coco_21_: ありです!
00:57 coco_21_: わかりました!^^
01:00 schwarzvgrune: 99.96
01:00 schwarzvgrune: !!
01:00 schwarzvgrune: すごい! >w<
01:00 coco_21_: ^^!
01:00 schwarzvgrune: 今どうですか
01:00 schwarzvgrune: テストプレイをする有難うございます >_<
01:01 coco_21_: 結構素直な配置でやってて楽しかったです。
01:01 coco_21_: とても個人的ですが
01:02 coco_21_: HARDというよりはNORMAL+ぐらいの難易度かなー
01:02 coco_21_: とも思いました!
01:02 coco_21_: こちらこそありがとうございました^^!
01:03 schwarzvgrune: そうですか!
01:03 schwarzvgrune: XD
01:04 schwarzvgrune: でも星のレートは2.25以上ですから、ラベルはHARDと言うます
01:05 schwarzvgrune: 私のhardは2.78の星レートですから、ラベルはhardを書きますよ~ これはBNとqatの規定 ;w;
01:06 schwarzvgrune: 7K hardはまだ作ってませんです。。。
01:06 coco_21_: ラベル上はそうなるのですか!
01:06 schwarzvgrune: うんそうです
01:07 coco_21_: 初めて知りました><.
01:07 schwarzvgrune: ランキングするの規定
01:07 schwarzvgrune: ココさんはトテモ上手ですからなあああ >w<
01:07 coco_21_: 7k hardも待ってます^!
01:07 coco_21_: 結構細かいのですね、、、大変そう
01:07 coco_21_: いえいえー
ghm12
Mod from Tarrasky's Queue
Only Taiko diffs
[Nardo's Oni]
  1. 00:02:525 - k? sounds better imo
  2. 00:26:525 - ^ same
  3. 01:24:125 - ^
  4. 01:57:725 - ^
  5. 00:54:125 - k would be better here
  6. 00:44:375 - k?
  7. 01:33:575 - k and 01:33:875 - d? follow the rhythm better for me
  8. 00:54:575 - dk looks better imo
  9. 01:37:186 - kkk here?
  10. 00:22:475 - d and 00:22:775 - k? I didn't like (48) being k
  11. 01:53:675 - ^ same

[Nardo's Muzukashii]
  1. 01:07:175 - d and 01:07:475 - k? for me is better

[Ikin's Futsuu]
You forgot to disable Widescreen Support
  1. 01:01:925 - I can't hear a beat here
  2. 01:04:775 - Finish doesn't sound cool in both notes
  3. 01:20:675 - ^
  4. 01:57:875 - k?
I really liked Nardo's diffs, and I can see they being ranked
Good luck!
lenpai

shionelove wrote:

from M4M

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:06:275 (6275|2) - to 00:07:925 (7925|2) - add some notes like 00:01:475 (1475|1,1625|0,1775|1,2225|1,2375|0) - ok
00:31:475 (31475|0) - until 00:31:925 ? oh right
00:35:075 (35075|3) - ^
00:37:475 (37475|1) - ^ applied ^
00:52:175 (52175|3,52775|3,53375|3) - add some notes not sure if you mean four noters or fillers in the 1/1 snap
01:21:575 (81575|4,82175|5) - add some drums ^ added fillers here and above

good luck

arviejhay wrote:

hello u req?

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:01:475 (1475|1,1625|0,1775|1,1925|2,2225|1,2375|0) - there's seems to be a lot of hand pressure here, so ctrl + H then move it back to the original position (move 4 columns to the left) sensible but pitch :(
00:02:525 (2525|2) - move to 4 pressing the same note right after releasing it from a hold? Mmmmm no thanks.
00:13:475 (13475|3) - move to 7 and add a note on 3 shouldn't hurt
00:19:925 - add a note on 3 with clap v
01:46:325 - ^ D: somehow consistent but I find it awkward :( ^


Such a great map :)
Good luck! :)
Grun, it's time to change that tag from amefurashi- to lenfried-

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ikin5050

ghm12 wrote:

Mod from Tarrasky's Queue
Only Taiko diffs

[Ikin's Futsuu]
You forgot to disable Widescreen Support thanks
  1. 01:01:925 - I can't hear a beat here alright, i suppose it fits futsuu better without this
  2. 01:04:775 - Finish doesn't sound cool in both notes fixed
  3. 01:20:675 - ^ kept this, i feel like it fits after kiai time to have a finish
  4. 01:57:875 - k? thanks for pointing it out
[/notice]
I really liked Nardo's diffs, and I can see they being ranked i hate my diff too man, it's okay
Good luck!
Thanks for your mod!
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: 107 Welcome to the Workshop!.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61475
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Ikin's Futsuu
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Amefurashi-
BeatmapID:613003
BeatmapSetID:177709

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Topic Starter
schwarzvgrune
all updated.

widescreen support conflict fixed for all diffs
lenfried- tag added to all diffs.
PatZar

ikin5050 wrote:

ghm12 wrote:

[Ikin's Futsuu]
I really liked Nardo's diffs, and I can see they being ranked i hate my diff too man, it's okay
Good luck!
damn son.

re-check request by creator

[Ikin's Futsuu]
00:02:375 (2) - delete, since this futsuu needs more break imo.
00:07:175 (9) - better 1/2 forward, if you delete above^
00:10:775 (13) - don, the snare of guitar is fit with don,
00:11:525 (15) - delete
00:21:575 (32) - delete, it doesn't fit well
00:36:725 (54) - delete, the sound is lack, i mean it doesnt have any sound
00:51:275 (85) - kat, the high snare of guitar is high
00:53:075 (85) - delete to give more break space
01:10:475 (120,121,122) - kdk? the sound is more good if kdk imo
01:12:875 (125) - kat pls, the don isnt fit well imo
01:17:375 (134,136) - better ctrl + g, since the higher sound is 01:18:275 (136) -
01:19:175 (136) - move 1/2 forward and change it to kat
01:23:975 (141) - delete this if you change 00:02:375 (2) - for cinsistent
01:44:075 (172,173) - k k , for better emphasis imo
Need 2 mods and call me back
ikin5050

Genocide wrote:

damn son.

re-check request by creator

[Ikin's Futsuu]
00:02:375 (2) - delete, since this futsuu needs more break imo. valid
00:07:175 (9) - better 1/2 forward, if you delete above^ applied
00:10:775 (13) - don, the snare of guitar is fit with don, applied
00:11:525 (15) - delete applied
00:21:575 (32) - delete, it doesn't fit well fair enough
00:36:725 (54) - delete, the sound is lack, i mean it doesnt have any sound valid
00:51:275 (85) - kat, the high snare of guitar is high yes
00:53:075 (85) - delete to give more break space ya
01:10:475 (120,121,122) - kdk? the sound is more good if kdk imo it was dkd but i get your point
01:12:875 (125) - kat pls, the don isnt fit well imo hmm yeah, the pitch is pretty high for a don
01:17:375 (134,136) - better ctrl + g, since the higher sound is 01:18:275 (136) - thanks for explaining what the heck ctr + g does
01:19:175 (136) - move 1/2 forward and change it to kat just added kat instead
01:23:975 (141) - delete this if you change 00:02:375 (2) - for cinsistent done
01:44:075 (172,173) - k k , for better emphasis imo
aight
Need 2 mods and call me back
Thanks geno :D

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Topic Starter
schwarzvgrune
thanks for your help genocide!! will do and look for another mods >_<

updated!
Nardoxyribonucleic

ghm12 wrote:

Mod from Tarrasky's Queue
Only Taiko diffs
[notice][Nardo's Oni]
  1. 00:02:525 - k? sounds better imo Retained to make a contrast to 00:13:175 (22,23,24) - since the pitch is lower among 00:02:375 (2,3,4) -
  2. 00:26:525 - ^ same No change here for pattern consistency.
  3. 01:24:125 - ^ ^
  4. 01:57:725 - ^ ^
  5. 00:54:125 - k would be better here I prefer keeping it for consistency as 00:10:775 (17,18,19) -
  6. 00:44:375 - k? There is no high-pitched sound.
  7. 01:33:575 - k and 01:33:875 - d? follow the rhythm better for me 01:33:875 (328) - has a higher pitch than 01:33:575 (327) - , so d k would be better.
  8. 00:54:575 - dk looks better imo kd could maintain consistency of snares.
  9. 01:37:186 - kkk here? changed to kdk instead.
  10. 00:22:475 - d and 00:22:775 - k? I didn't like (48) being k k d could follow the instrument in a way better.
  11. 01:53:675 - ^ same ^

[Nardo's Muzukashii]
  1. 01:07:175 - d and 01:07:475 - k? for me is better fixed


I really liked Nardo's diffs, and I can see they being ranked Thanks~ :3
Good luck!
Thanks for your mod~ :)

Update: http://puu.sh/goT7w.rar
ghm12

ikin5050 wrote:

ghm12 wrote:

I really liked Nardo's diffs, and I can see they being ranked i hate my diff too man, it's okay
Good luck!
I didn't mean this ;_;
I'm not a taiko player, I don't know what is a good futsuu/kantan :(
Topic Starter
schwarzvgrune
all updated, added nowsmart's 5k gd, ready to mod for all diffs.
lenpai
Will mod 5k stuff soon.
Chaoslitz
as requested to testplay owo/
~std only~

diffs are fine, here is a quick mod:
[A's Insane]
  1. 00:43:025 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - this part is really hard to predict the rhythm or play, as the ds like in 00:43:025 (3,1) is small, and then a jump, thus NC should started in 00:43:475 (3) instead, and then remove NC in 00:43:775 (1,1) :33
  2. 01:06:875 (6) - add clap in tail
  3. 01:12:125 (4,5,6) - increase spacing here, since you mapped jumps


[Lazer's Hard]
  1. 00:07:475 (2,3) - decrease the spacing here, even it is a hard diff


[Lazer's Normal]
  1. 00:31:925 (4) - this reverse slider does not match the rhythm

good luck
Renka
Hi, from PM. only mod is kin's futsuu.

kin's Futsuu

00:08:675- change k? Other diff, have arranged with k.
01:29:975 - change d?
01:46:475 - change k?

good lack!
ikin5050

chaica wrote:

Hi, from PM. only mod is kin's futsuu. it's not kin, it's ikin

Ikin's Futsuu

00:08:675- change k? Other diff, have arranged with k. agreed
01:29:975 - change d? sure
01:46:475 - change k? yes yes

good lack!
Thanks for your mod

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SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

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//Background and Video events
0,0,"Atelier_Iris_3__Grand_Phantasm_by_Lunatia.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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