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sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Taiko]

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wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, July 7, 2014 at 7:02:53 PM

Artist: sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku)
Title: SeventH-HeaveN
Source: セブンスドラゴン2020
Tags: Seventh Dragon 2020 vocaloid Nardoxyribonucleic Love Soldsaga KunG
BPM: 180
Filesize: 2589kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Inner Oni (4.66 stars, 565 notes)
  2. Love's Inner Oni (4.8 stars, 590 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.8 stars, 313 notes)
  4. Nardo's Futsuu (2.56 stars, 198 notes)
  5. Nardo's Kantan (2.05 stars, 138 notes)
  6. Oni (4.02 stars, 431 notes)
  7. Sold's Oni (3.9 stars, 401 notes)
Download: sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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First Ranked

aabc271 Bubbled 20/06/2014
TKS Ranked 07/07/2014

Standard version by Loli -[Koinuri]

Nardo's Kantan by Nardoxyribonucleic
Nardo's Futsuu by Nardoxyribonucleic
Muzukashii by me
Oni by me
Sold's Oni by Soldsagay Soldsaga KunG
Inner Oni by me
Love's Inner Oni by Love
Hope you like my map
Special Thank
snowball112
Nardoxyribonucleic
Mintong
Love
senkai
Soldsaga KunG
KanaRin
Charlotte
aabc271
TKS
Last edited by wasonz , edited 41 times in total.
snowball112
363 posts
Joined February 2013
snowball112
Hey ^^ Mod from #modhelp/pm

General
Song Setup->Design:
Disable countdown (not allowed for taiko)
Disable letterboxing during breaks (same reason as before)

Kiai time: end at 01:18:549? It feels like the vocals already start to become quieter from this point onwards, so maybe let the kiai end here instead of at 01:26:549.

Finishes
You've mapped in very few big notes. It might be good to map in some large kats and dons to the finishes in the song snice they're very fun in my opinion ^^
Possible large kats and dons at:
00:30:053
00:40:720
00:51:883
00:52:883
00:57:216
01:07:882
01:07:716
01:18:382

Note: I know that some of these large notes would be at the end of streams in the oni. If you were to add them, delete the note before the hitfinish or don't add the finish at all.
Also, I'd consider using only soft hitfinishes to fit the song better if you choose to use them.
Oni
Maybe try out these patterns to see how well it flows in comparison to what you have now:
00:58:549 (217) - k
01:00:216 (231) - d
01:00:549 (234,235,236) - kdd
01:01:716 (244) - d
01:01:882 (245) - k
01:02:549 (250,251,252) - dkd
01:04:049 (261,262,263) - dkk
01:10:049 - add a k (looks a bit strange to have a double since you use mainly triplets for the rest of the song imo)
01:12:549 (336) - k
Note: Maybe get some testplays in before considering to apply the pattern changes.

Nothing wrong with the muzukashii in my opinion.

That's all from me. Good luck with your map ^^
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

snowball112 wrote:

Hey ^^ Mod from #modhelp/pm

General
Song Setup->Design:
Disable countdown (not allowed for taiko)
Disable letterboxing during breaks (same reason as before)

Kiai time: end at 01:18:549? It feels like the vocals already start to become quieter from this point onwards, so maybe let the kiai end here instead of at 01:26:549.

Finishes
You've mapped in very few big notes. It might be good to map in some large kats and dons to the finishes in the song snice they're very fun in my opinion ^^
Possible large kats and dons at:
00:30:053
00:40:720
00:51:883
00:52:883
00:57:216
01:07:882
01:07:716
01:18:382

Note: I know that some of these large notes would be at the end of streams in the oni. If you were to add them, delete the note before the hitfinish or don't add the finish at all.
Also, I'd consider using only soft hitfinishes to fit the song better if you choose to use them.
Oni
Maybe try out these patterns to see how well it flows in comparison to what you have now:
00:58:549 (217) - k
01:00:216 (231) - d
01:00:549 (234,235,236) - kdd
01:01:716 (244) - d
01:01:882 (245) - k
01:02:549 (250,251,252) - dkd
01:04:049 (261,262,263) - dkk
01:10:049 - add a k (looks a bit strange to have a double since you use mainly triplets for the rest of the song imo)
01:12:549 (336) - k
Note: Maybe get some testplays in before considering to apply the pattern changes.

Nothing wrong with the muzukashii in my opinion.

That's all from me. Good luck with your map ^^
Fixed ~! Thank for mod :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
osu! Alumni
3,008 posts
Joined May 2011
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here are the Taiko GDs you requested~ (no kd please)

Link: http://puu.sh/8WmNF

I'll mod your diffs later ;)
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here are the Taiko GDs you requested~ (no kd please)

Link: http://puu.sh/8WmNF

I'll mod your diffs later ;)
Thank you :)
mintong89
3,698 posts
Joined July 2011
mintong89
Hello from Google doc

[General]
Well the Title should be: SeventH-HeaveN only, because that "セブンスドラゴン２０２０" is just a game, it doesn't matter to song. so you can put into Source or Tag.
Add GDer to Tag? (Nardoxyribonucleic)

[Inner oni]
Inner Oni instead of Inner oni?

00:14:720 (29) - How about move this to 00:14:886 - here, then 00:14:053 (25,26,27,28) - change these to d k k k? These will make the rhythm more smooth.
00:17:886 (42) - d here? actually two k is really noisy at here.
00:19:220 (49) - d here too, you can hear the electronic sound and it sound just like 00:19:053 (48) - this note and you put as d.
00:20:553 (59) - The vocal sound is high pitch than other sound so k here instead than d.
00:48:220 (263,264,265,266,267,268,269) - Actually these notes are bad flow imo, change to kkkkddk?
01:07:625 (418,419,420,421) - how about change these to dkdk? just flow suggestion.

[Oni]

00:23:220 (51,52,53,54) - How about d k d k?
00:27:220 - Add a note? you can hear drum sound clearly at here.
00:29:386 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - Same as Inner Oni, quite bad flow imo. kkkkddk?
00:51:883 (188) - Didn't snap well at timing point.
00:57:959 (211) - Didn't snap well at blue line.

[Muzukashii]
Some notes didn't snap well at line
00:51:883 (170) -
01:02:202 (30) -
01:02:285 (31) -
01:07:118 (49) -
01:07:202 (50) -
01:07:452 (52) -
01:07:535 (53) -
01:17:202 (90) -
01:17:535 (92) -
01:17:785 (94) -
01:17:868 (95) -
01:21:868 (108) -
01:23:868 (115) -
01:25:785 (122) -
01:25:868 (123) -
01:26:202 (125) -

00:48:720 (151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170) - Sorry but I suggest to remove some notes at this part, these are extremely hard and streamly for muzu player.
00:59:875 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - ^

Futsuu and Kantan is fine for me.
Overall: Great maps! Nothing can be mentioned.
Good Luck~
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

Mintong wrote:

Hello from Google doc

[General]
Well the Title should be: SeventH-HeaveN only, because that "セブンスドラゴン２０２０" is just a game, it doesn't matter to song. so you can put into Source or Tag.
Add GDer to Tag? (Nardoxyribonucleic)

[Inner oni]
Inner Oni instead of Inner oni?

00:14:720 (29) - How about move this to 00:14:886 - here, then 00:14:053 (25,26,27,28) - change these to d k k k? These will make the rhythm more smooth.
00:17:886 (42) - d here? actually two k is really noisy at here.
00:19:220 (49) - d here too, you can hear the electronic sound and it sound just like 00:19:053 (48) - this note and you put as d.
00:20:553 (59) - The vocal sound is high pitch than other sound so k here instead than d.
00:48:220 (263,264,265,266,267,268,269) - Actually these notes are bad flow imo, change to kkkkddk?
01:07:625 (418,419,420,421) - how about change these to dkdk? just flow suggestion.

[Oni]

00:23:220 (51,52,53,54) - How about d k d k?
00:27:220 - Add a note? you can hear drum sound clearly at here.
00:29:386 (76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84) - Same as Inner Oni, quite bad flow imo. kkkkddk?
00:51:883 (188) - Didn't snap well at timing point.
00:57:959 (211) - Didn't snap well at blue line.

[Muzukashii]
Some notes didn't snap well at line
00:51:883 (170) -
01:02:202 (30) -
01:02:285 (31) -
01:07:118 (49) -
01:07:202 (50) -
01:07:452 (52) -
01:07:535 (53) -
01:17:202 (90) -
01:17:535 (92) -
01:17:785 (94) -
01:17:868 (95) -
01:21:868 (108) -
01:23:868 (115) -
01:25:785 (122) -
01:25:868 (123) -
01:26:202 (125) -

00:48:720 (151,152,153,154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167,168,169,170) - Sorry but I suggest to remove some notes at this part, these are extremely hard and streamly for muzu player.
00:59:875 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - ^

Futsuu and Kantan is fine for me.
Overall: Great maps! Nothing can be mentioned.
Good Luck~
Thank you very much Mintong :) this very useful
Love
osu! Alumni
1,267 posts
Joined August 2010
Love
Here's the requested guest diff.

Change the inherit on 01:18:542 to a 6/4 timing section.

http://puu.sh/94oPL/309835889d.osu
senkai
56 posts
Joined October 2011
senkai
[General]


[Oni]
00:34:803- add a k
00:34:886- add a k
the ddkkk pattern sounds a bit awkward, that's why.
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

Love wrote:

Here's the requested guest diff.

Change the inherit on 01:18:542 to a 6/4 timing section.

http://puu.sh/94oPL/309835889d.osu
Thank you for your GD :D
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

senkai wrote:

[General]


[Oni]
00:34:803- add a k
00:34:886- add a k
the ddkkk pattern sounds a bit awkward, that's why.
Thank you senkai :D
KanaRin
1,886 posts
Joined April 2010
KanaRin
Hi :)

Inner Oni

  1. 00:21:386 (66) - kat sounds good here.
  2. 00:24:386 (82) - ^
  3. 00:25:386 - Missed a snare-drum here, add a kat here if you think that's better.
  4. 00:54:376 (303) - to 00:56:209 (325) - instead of this, I guess it should be nice to use spinner or slider here.
  5. (*)01:10:042 (439) - Don
  6. (cont') 01:10:209 (440) - Kat
Oni

  1. Resnap the notes.
  2. 00:24:053 (55,56) - kat
  3. 00:25:386 - add a kat

Muzukashii

  1. 01:00:709 - How about add a kat here? It's much easier for players to follow the map imo.
Please resnap the notes (check all the diffs again.)
That's it.
Love's Taiko is pretty nice as I see.
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

KanaRin wrote:

Hi :)

Inner Oni

  1. 00:21:386 (66) - kat sounds good here.
  2. 00:24:386 (82) - ^
  3. 00:25:386 - Missed a snare-drum here, add a kat here if you think that's better.
  4. 00:54:376 (303) - to 00:56:209 (325) - instead of this, I guess it should be nice to use spinner or slider here.
  5. (*)01:10:042 (439) - Don
  6. (cont') 01:10:209 (440) - Kat
Oni

  1. Resnap the notes.
  2. 00:24:053 (55,56) - kat
  3. 00:25:386 - add a kat

Muzukashii

  1. 01:00:709 - How about add a kat here? It's much easier for players to follow the map imo.
Please resnap the notes (check all the diffs again.)
That's it.
Love's Taiko is pretty nice as I see.
Thank KanaRin !! :)
Charlotte
1,905 posts
Joined December 2013
Charlotte
Hi from game in chat

d
k
D(big d)
K(big k)

Nardo's Kantan

SV1.4→1.2

00:53:876 (67) - move to 00:53:717 -
01:08:542 (27) - delete

Nardo's Futsuu

SV1.4→1.2

00:25:386 (32) - move to 00:25:220 -
00:25:718 - add d
00:28:053 (37) - move to 00:27:880 -
00:28:391 - add d
00:29:053 (40) - change k

Muzukashii

00:12:720 (19) - delete
00:15:053 (27) - delete
00:15:386 (27,28) - move to 00:15:216 -
00:58:875 (13) - change k
00:59:209 (15) - change d
01:19:209 (100) - change d

Oni

00:34:886 (114) - change d
00:57:959 (214) - change d
01:01:375 (243) - change d
01:09:292 (311) - change k
01:11:459 (328) - change d

Love's Inner Oni

OD7 :shock:

00:26:220 (92) - change k
01:04:625 (71) - change k
01:23:292 (233,234) - ctrl + G
01:26:542 (263) - change d

Good luck :)
wasonz
714 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
wasonz

Charlotte wrote:

Hi from game in chat

d
k
D(big d)
K(big k)

Nardo's Kantan

SV1.4→1.2

00:53:876 (67) - move to 00:53:717 -
01:08:542 (27) - delete

Nardo's Futsuu

SV1.4→1.2

00:25:386 (32) - move to 00:25:220 -
00:25:718 - add d
00:28:053 (37) - move to 00:27:880 -
00:28:391 - add d
00:29:053 (40) - change k

Muzukashii

00:12:720 (19) - delete
00:15:053 (27) - delete
00:15:386 (27,28) - move to 00:15:216 -
00:58:875 (13) - change k
00:59:209 (15) - change d
01:19:209 (100) - change d

Oni

00:34:886 (114) - change d
00:57:959 (214) - change d
01:01:375 (243) - change d
01:09:292 (311) - change k
01:11:459 (328) - change d

Love's Inner Oni

OD7 :shock:

00:26:220 (92) - change k
01:04:625 (71) - change k
01:23:292 (233,234) - ctrl + G
01:26:542 (263) - change d

Good luck :)
:) Thank you Charlotte
Love
osu! Alumni
1,267 posts
Joined August 2010
Love

Charlotte wrote:

Love's Inner Oni

OD7 :shock: teehee :D

00:26:220 (92) - change k
01:04:625 (71) - change k
01:23:292 (233,234) - ctrl + G
01:26:542 (263) - change d

Good luck :)
no change

@[I]MMoRTal[S]: Please don't update my diff without my permission, I'll post my responses and update.

SPOILER
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: 2020 SeventH-HeaveNsasakure.UK(feat.).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56382
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 1
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:SeventH-HeaveN
TitleUnicode:SeventH-HeaveN
Artist:sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku)
ArtistUnicode:♪sasakure.UK (feat.初音ミク)
Creator:[I]MMoRTal[S]
Version:Love's Inner Oni
Source:セブンスドラゴン２０２０
Tags:sasakure.UK Hatsune Miku Video Games Nardoxyribonucleic
BeatmapID:430847
BeatmapSetID:177182

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:5
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:5
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Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic

Charlotte wrote:

Hi from game in chat

d
k
D(big d)
K(big k)

Nardo's Kantan

SV1.4→1.2 fixed

00:53:876 (67) - move to 00:53:717 - no change because of difficulty concern.
01:08:542 (27) - delete no change for the sake of pattern consistency.

Nardo's Futsuu

SV1.4→1.2 remain unchanged

00:25:386 (32) - move to 00:25:220 - fixed
00:25:718 - add d fixed
00:28:053 (37) - move to 00:27:880 - no change because there is nothing to follow.
00:28:391 - add d fixed
00:29:053 (40) - change k changed both 00:28:720 (39,40) - as k

Good luck :)
Thanks for the mod~ :)

Update: http://puu.sh/9rKdN

@[I]MMoRTal[S]: Please specify what you have changed in my diffs D:
wasonz
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Topic Starter
wasonz
Updated !

@Nardoxyribonucleic,Love sorry :o
aabc271
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aabc271
Received a pm from IMT, so I'm here to mod this :3
Let's go ~

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[ Love's Inner Oni]

• OD -1 ? ( OD 7 could be quite harsh. Consider that oni has OD 5 only, and the other inner oni has 6 )

• 01:28:375 (1) - Delete this ? ( Background is so soft that I think deleting the spinner and ending the diff with (269,270) d k would be better )

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:13:386 (21,22) - o o ? ( k at 21 can follow the previous "d=music" style. d at 22 makes 23 more significant since (22,23) both k would make 23 stand out less. (21,22) can also fit the pitch of vocal )

00:29:386 (114~120) - ooooooo ? ( Since the background contains only rising electronic sounds, you might want some hitsound patterns that fit them more. Making more later notes, esp 120, k can achieve this )

00:36:553 (174~184) - ooooooo o ? ( Seem to fit the background sounds even closer ? )

00:56:375 (1~5) - o o o o o ? ( Since there is only miku's vocal and no other sounds in background, I'd prefer following the pitch of vocal here )

01:09:875 (117) - Red note ? ( This sounds quite similar to 116 and unlike 118, this doesn't have significant sounds to support the use of k )

Overall nice
Patterns follow background sounds closely and the flow is nice to me :3

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[ Inner Oni]

• 00:54:376 (303~325) - Having such long k stream doesn't seem to be a good idea as there's no additional sounds to support these 23 k sounds. I'd prefer having a long spinner instead.

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:17:720 (41,42) - o o ? ( So that (35~45) has k that fit the more obvious music )

00:25:886 (89,90) - o o ? ( I guess you're trying to emphasize the background electronic sounds, as shown at (93,94). Since (91,92) are both lower-pitched than (93,94), I'd prefer having d d for them. k at 89 is to avoid four d in a row which could sound monotonous )

00:29:386 (107~115) - ooooooooo ? ( Similar to what I said in love's inner oni )

00:56:375 (1~5) - o o o o o ? ( Refer to what I said in love's inner oni )

01:15:042 (480~485) - ooo ooo ? ( dkd is following the obvious pitch changes in music background. kdd seems to fit the background hits better )

Overall ok
That long k stream is really odd to me but others seem fine ~

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[ Oni]

• 00:29:386 (77~85) - Considering the low note density at non-kiai parts, I'd prefer having some short 1/4s rather a long stream. Maybe you can consider sth like ooo ooo O ( This is to balance the diff spread and keep the overall feeling of non-kiai parts more consistent )

• 00:39:720 - ^ Similar issue. What about ooo ooo ooo O ?

• 00:54:542 (202, 203) - I'd prefer a spinner which starts at 202, rather than a long slider. ( Because it's quite difficult for players to hit all 21 notes well, and the music doesn't emphasize the 1/4 rhythm so much )

• 01:02:625 (253,254) - Delete these ? ( I prefer dividing the long sections (204~347) into a few smaller sections which makes the connection with non-kiai parts more natural and overall more consistent )
• 01:08:042 (296~299) - ^ Delete 296,298,299 and add finish to 297 ?

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:34:470 (109) - Delete this ? ( I think kkkkd at (110~114) should be more emphasized rather than the current stream which includes the less obvious dd at front )

01:20:375 (398) - Delete this ? ( So as to have consistent rest points with 01:22:375 and 01:24:375 )

Overall ok
Patterns are used reasonably but I believe some parts can be fine-tuned, as mentioned above ~

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[ Sold's Oni]

• Lots of unsnapped notes found. See AiMod (ctrl+shift+a) for details. You should fix this by resnapping all notes.

• 00:27:609 (55) - Although the background hit seems to be a bit delayed, I strongly suggest putting this back to 00:27:553. ( The current snapping is very misleading and should be avoided. After all, the normal 1/2 snap still sounds reasonable under autoplay )

• 00:34:803 (98,100) - Delete either 98 or 100 ? ( ddkddkk is quite unusual and this raises the diff spread. ddk dkk / ddkdd k fit the music too so you might want to consider changing this )

• 00:39:053 (126,1) - End the slider at 00:39:886 and start the spinner at 00:40:053 ? ( This makes the spinner start at white line which fits the music better )

• 00:54:459 (1) - I'd prefer starting the spinner 1/4 backward to 00:54:542 instead. ( Current position makes the spinner icon stack with the previous notes like this, which doesn't look good imo )

• 01:17:709 (135~145) - The hitsound patterns of this stream are so misleading imo, mainly because of the kkkdddk structure. I'd suggest changing 137 to d to make the stream simpler.

Overall ok
Similar to Oni, I think some areas can be improved further
Please remember to fix the unsnapped notes ~

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[ Muzukashii]

• 00:54:542 (1) - End the spinner at 00:56:209 ? ( I guess you end this earlier to provide more space for the incoming note, but the vocal just clearly stops at :209 which makes me feel ending the spinner there is more appropriate )

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:13:053 (20) - Red note ? ( So that (19,20) becomes k d, which fits (14~17) k d k d better )

00:25:386 (x) - Add a blue note ? ( Since there's a significant drum hit at background similar to 63 )

00:27:386 (74~76) - Consider changing into this ? ( ^ Similar reason. imo the strong drum sounds shouldn't be omitted )

01:07:709 (54) - Remove finish ? ( Since 55 is even heavier in drum hit, I'd prefer having only finish at 55 to emphasize it more )

01:18:375 (97) - Remove finish ? ( ^ Similar to above, 98 has the heavy drum hit at background, and so I think 97 should be a small note to better emphasize 98 )

00:40:720 (126) - Add finish ? ( It's a new section of the song similar to 84. It also contains a heavier beat at background )

00:48:220 (151,152) - Remove finish at 151, and add finish at 152 ? ( I'd add finish on 152 instead of 151 because 152 obviously has heavier background sound )

Overall nice
I see mostly 1/2s but they fit the music quite well. Good job :3

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[ Nardo's Futsuu]

Modded with Nardo in-game
Chatlog below for reference
Chatlog with Nardo, Jun 18
19:57 aabc271: :3
19:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: hi :3
19:57 aabc271: Hi~
19:58 aabc271: You're modding ?
19:58 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm making a GD
19:58 aabc271: o.O
19:59 aabc271: Maybe I should mod your diff in forum ? w
19:59 *aabc271 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/427284 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Nardo's Futsuu]]
19:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: umm... let's have an irc mod :3
20:00 aabc271: Well, I hope I didn't interrupt your mapping o.O
20:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem, I can continue later
20:01 aabc271: ok then :3
20:02 aabc271: Futsuu 00:51:886 - Unsnapped note ?
20:02 aabc271: Because of the red line I think
20:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: oops, fixed~
20:03 aabc271: 00:15:053 - Maybe move 1/2 backwards ?
20:03 aabc271: 00:17:720 - Same here
20:03 aabc271: I'm not sure if this is done on purpose
20:03 aabc271: Just asking
20:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: I followed the piano at 00:15:053 -
20:06 aabc271: But that's.... So soft ?
20:07 aabc271: I saw your (13,14) and I guess you're following obvious sounds instead
20:07 aabc271: Never mind then. I think I get your reasons
20:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
20:10 aabc271: I first thought this song would be so hard to make futsuu / kantan
20:10 aabc271: But it seems you handle quite well
20:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: thanks <3
20:13 aabc271: 01:03:375 (23,24) - d k ?
20:13 aabc271: 01:06:042 (32,33) - ^
20:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay
20:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: and fixed 01:14:042 (60,61) -
20:16 aabc271: Yes
20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: and 01:16:709 (69,70) -
20:16 aabc271: Sure
20:16 aabc271: 01:18:542 - Add red finish ?
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: OK
20:18 aabc271: 01:19:208 - Blue note ?
20:20 aabc271: Consistency with other repeating parts ^
20:21 Nardoxyribonucleic: Sure, but red note could follow the vocal better imo
20:21 Nardoxyribonucleic: as it has the same pitch as 01:18:875 (76) -
20:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: But after adding big note at 01:18:542 - , changing it to blue is fine, I think.
20:22 aabc271: Alright then :3
20:23 aabc271: Checking kantan...
20:25 aabc271: 00:08:053 - Fine for me but I think deleting this highlights your consistency of patterns better
20:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would like to keep it as it is the first vocal
20:30 Nardoxyribonucleic: A bit strange if omitting it
20:30 aabc271: Alright then
20:30 aabc271: 00:53:709 (67) - Move 1/2 backwards ?
20:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: This is much better, but will it be too hard for Kantan? k k in 1/2
20:34 aabc271: I think one kk is ok for kantan ?
20:34 aabc271: After all it really fits and is not used frequently
20:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: OK then
20:39 aabc271: 01:12:709 - Maybe 1/2 forward ?
20:39 aabc271: If you want rhythm consistency with (30)
20:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
20:43 aabc271: I wonder if sth like this is too hard
20:43 aabc271: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1727474
20:44 Nardoxyribonucleic: 7 1/1 note in a row... I don't know whether it is hard or not
20:45 aabc271: Current one should be fine. Never mind
20:45 aabc271: And 01:18:542 (x) - and 01:19:208 (50) - , same as futsuu ?
20:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: Sure
20:47 aabc271: Others should be fine :3
20:47 aabc271: I think I'll put this chatlog into the mod ~
20:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: OK~

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[ Nardo's Kantan]

Same as futsuu, modded in-game

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I think I'll bubble this after fixing the above
Find me when you're ready ~

Star and good luck ;)
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
Here comes the update after chatting with aabc~

http://puu.sh/9yY7J
wasonz
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Topic Starter
wasonz

aabc271 wrote:

Received a pm from IMT, so I'm here to mod this :3

[ Inner Oni]

• 00:54:376 (303~325) - Having such long k stream doesn't seem to be a good idea as there's no additional sounds to support these 23 k sounds. I'd prefer having a long spinner instead. FIXED !

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:17:720 (41,42) - o o ? ( So that (35~45) has k that fit the more obvious music ) Accept 42

00:25:886 (89,90) - o o ? ( I guess you're trying to emphasize the background electronic sounds, as shown at (93,94). Since (91,92) are both lower-pitched than (93,94), I'd prefer having d d for them. k at 89 is to avoid four d in a row which could sound monotonous ) okay

00:29:386 (107~115) - ooooooooo ? ( Similar to what I said in love's inner oni ) okay

00:56:375 (1~5) - o o o o o ? ( Refer to what I said in love's inner oni ) :) okay

01:15:042 (480~485) - ooo ooo ? ( dkd is following the obvious pitch changes in music background. kdd seems to fit the background hits better )okay !


Overall ok
That long k stream is really odd to me but others seem fine ~

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[ Oni]

• 00:29:386 (77~85) - Considering the low note density at non-kiai parts, I'd prefer having some short 1/4s rather a long stream. Maybe you can consider sth like ooo ooo O ( This is to balance the diff spread and keep the overall feeling of non-kiai parts more consistent )
FIXED

• 00:39:720 - ^ Similar issue. What about ooo ooo ooo O ?
FIXED !

• 00:54:542 (202, 203) - I'd prefer a spinner which starts at 202, rather than a long slider. ( Because it's quite difficult for players to hit all 21 notes well, and the music doesn't emphasize the 1/4 rhythm so much )
FIXED !!

• 01:02:625 (253,254) - Delete these ? ( I prefer dividing the long sections (204~347) into a few smaller sections which makes the connection with non-kiai parts more natural and overall more consistent ) FIXED and delete some note
• 01:08:042 (296~299) - ^ Delete 296,298,299 and add finish to 297 ?
fixed 296,298,297 ,I'm follow the drum at 299

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:34:470 (109) - Delete this ? ( I think kkkkd at (110~114) should be more emphasized rather than the current stream which includes the less obvious dd at front ) Accept

01:20:375 (398) - Delete this ? ( So as to have consistent rest points with 01:22:375 and 01:24:375 )
Accept

Overall ok
Patterns are used reasonably but I believe some parts can be fine-tuned, as mentioned above ~
edit* FIXED Muzukashii accept all Suggested patterns ~ ;)

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MODDING aabc271 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
... waiting for Soldsagay KunG and Love reply
Love
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Love

aabc271 wrote:

Received a pm from IMT, so I'm here to mod this :3
Let's go ~

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[ Love's Inner Oni]

• OD -1 ? ( OD 7 could be quite harsh. Consider that oni has OD 5 only, and the other inner oni has 6 ) OD7 really isn't that bad at all, so I would like to keep this

• 01:28:375 (1) - Delete this ? ( Background is so soft that I think deleting the spinner and ending the diff with (269,270) d k would be better ) done

Suggested patterns ~
Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.

00:13:386 (21,22) - o o ? ( k at 21 can follow the previous "d=music" style. d at 22 makes 23 more significant since (22,23) both k would make 23 stand out less. (21,22) can also fit the pitch of vocal ) done

00:29:386 (114~120) - ooooooo ? ( Since the background contains only rising electronic sounds, you might want some hitsound patterns that fit them more. Making more later notes, esp 120, k can achieve this ) This sparked the idea of using ddkdkkk instead since the pattern suggested feels really weird for me

00:36:553 (174~184) - ooooooo o ? ( Seem to fit the background sounds even closer ? )

00:56:375 (1~5) - o o o o o ? ( Since there is only miku's vocal and no other sounds in background, I'd prefer following the pitch of vocal here ) done

01:09:875 (117) - Red note ? ( This sounds quite similar to 116 and unlike 118, this doesn't have significant sounds to support the use of k ) done

Overall nice
Patterns follow background sounds closely and the flow is nice to me :3
Replies are inside, thanks~

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wasonz
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aabc271 wrote:

Received a pm from IMT, so I'm here to mod this :3
Let's go ~

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[ Sold's Oni]

• Lots of unsnapped notes found. See AiMod (ctrl+shift+a) for details. You should fix this by resnapping all notes. fixed

• 00:27:609 (55) - Although the background hit seems to be a bit delayed, I strongly suggest putting this back to 00:27:553. ( The current snapping is very misleading and should be avoided. After all, the normal 1/2 snap still sounds reasonable under autoplay ) fixed

• 00:34:803 (98,100) - Delete either 98 or 100 ? ( ddkddkk is quite unusual and this raises the diff spread. ddk dkk / ddkdd k fit the music too so you might want to consider changing this ) fixed

• 00:39:053 (126,1) - End the slider at 00:39:886 and start the spinner at 00:40:053 ? ( This makes the spinner start at white line which fits the music better ) fixed

• 00:54:459 (1) - I'd prefer starting the spinner 1/4 backward to 00:54:542 instead. ( Current position makes the spinner icon stack with the previous notes like this, which doesn't look good imo )

• 01:17:709 (135~145) - The hitsound patterns of this stream are so misleading imo, mainly because of the kkkdddk structure. I'd suggest changing 137 to d to make the stream simpler. fixed by delete 01:17:792 (136)

Overall ok
Similar to Oni, I think some areas can be improved further
Please remember to fix the unsnapped notes ~
Soldsaga KunG give me a responsible Thank again aabc271 :)
wasonz
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All Update ! :)
aabc271
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Had a final recheck in-game
Fixed 2 wrongly placed notes in sold's oni, and added a missing spinner and finish in oni

Chatlog with IMT, Jun 20
23:35 aabc271: :3
23:35 [I]MMoRTal[S]: o.o
23:35 *[I]MMoRTal[S] miss x1
23:35 [I]MMoRTal[S]: T T
23:35 aabc271: T T
23:35 aabc271: Are you available to have some final check for your map ?
23:36 aabc271: This shouldn't take long, as I'm almost ready to bubble this :3
23:36 *aabc271 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/434481 sasakure.UK (feat.Hatsune Miku) - SeventH-HeaveN [Oni]]
23:36 [I]MMoRTal[S]: hmm ?
23:36 [I]MMoRTal[S]: o.o what is it ?
23:36 aabc271: Just some more suggestions, or maybe you misunderstood my mod a bit
23:37 aabc271: (oni) 00:54:376 (196) - What about adding finish, and spinner at 00:54:542 - ?
23:37 [I]MMoRTal[S]: o.o
23:37 [I]MMoRTal[S]: wow
23:38 [I]MMoRTal[S]: I'm forgot to add spinner
23:38 [I]MMoRTal[S]: \:D/
23:38 aabc271: Please add it back \:D/
23:39 [I]MMoRTal[S]: hmm
23:39 aabc271: (sold's oni) 01:26:958 (203,204) - Should be 1/4 later
23:40 [I]MMoRTal[S]: o.o
23:41 aabc271: Well, I guess that one is obvious ? o.o
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: why sold's oni has note on 01:26:958
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: o.o
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: I'm confused
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: lol
23:43 aabc271: Both should be 1/4 later
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1734929
23:43 aabc271: 203 at 01:27:041 -
23:43 aabc271: Ah, yes
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: no !
23:43 aabc271: That one is fine too
23:43 [I]MMoRTal[S]: lol
23:45 aabc271: Other diffs seem fine
23:45 aabc271: Go update and I think I'll bubble this =w=b
23:46 [I]MMoRTal[S]: =w=b okay
23:47 *[I]MMoRTal[S] give aabc271 kds
23:47 [I]MMoRTal[S]: \:D/
23:47 aabc271: No need for this time. I already got for previous mod w
23:47 [I]MMoRTal[S]: www
23:47 aabc271: I'm just having a quick final check before bubbling
23:48 [I]MMoRTal[S]: hmm
23:48 [I]MMoRTal[S]: k
23:48 [I]MMoRTal[S]: :)
23:48 aabc271: :)
23:48 [I]MMoRTal[S]: btw i'm upload this map already
23:48 *[I]MMoRTal[S] is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/443505 Memme - Unison System]
23:48 [I]MMoRTal[S]: \:D/
23:49 aabc271: \:D/
23:49 [I]MMoRTal[S]: muzu 3 star
23:49 [I]MMoRTal[S]: oni
23:49 [I]MMoRTal[S]: 4
23:49 [I]MMoRTal[S]: inner 5
23:49 [I]MMoRTal[S]: \:D/
23:49 aabc271: Star rating in osu isn't so accurate but whatever :D
23:50 [I]MMoRTal[S]: 3,4,5 lol
23:50 aabc271: Maybe I'll start mapping that very soon
23:50 aabc271: One oni or inner oni. That's fine right ?
23:51 [I]MMoRTal[S]: yes
23:51 [I]MMoRTal[S]: :D
23:51 aabc271: :D
23:51 [I]MMoRTal[S]: I can accept all GD
23:51 [I]MMoRTal[S]: If it's ok in my eye
23:51 aabc271: Sure :3
23:56 aabc271: I'll include this chatlog as reference in my post
23:56 [I]MMoRTal[S]: ok

The mapset should be ready to rank now ~

Bubbled ~

Good luck :)
Dainesl
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wait, this rule is in effect now so is this map affected?! ;_; Nardo's Kantan is 2.05*...
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Dainesl wrote:

wait, this rule is in effect now so is this map affected?! ;_; Nardo's Kantan is 2.05*...
Umm... In fact, star difficulty does not reflect the actual difficulty of the map much. In terms of note density and pattern arrangement, the diff is Kantan-like.
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does not matter, you'll just have to make it easier
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